And to those that say "I won't give them any money.": You clearly did not watch the documentary and are entirely missing the point of all this. The documentary is partly at fault here, though, since it does not explain its plan for action until the very end. It's not about begging for money that will vanish on the way to Africa, it's about getting the attention of the people that can actually do something about this. It's about getting the public to talk about this so the politicians can't ignore it any longer.
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
And to those that say "I won't give them any money.": You clearly did not watch the documentary and are entirely missing the point of all this. The documentary is partly at fault here, though, since it does not explain its plan for action until the very end. It's not about begging for money that will vanish on the way to Africa, it's about getting the attention of the people that can actually do something about this. It's about getting the public to talk about this so the politicians can't ignore it any longer. | ||
HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On March 07 2012 07:49 1Eris1 wrote: Jospeh Kony is a despicable man who deserves the worse possible punishment, but the true problem is that he's just 1 out of dozens of similar rebel leaders all throughout Africa. Simply taking him out reduces the problem slightly, but honestly doesn't do much. You have to attack it at the source. (Taking our their funding/etc, which is primarly centered around a lot of luxuries we as 1st worlders absolutely covet and spend hundreds-thousands of dollars upon.) yar i found it funny how hes entirely clueless and hopeful for something that will never happen. ie taking down one guy and ending the war. lol | ||
Flaccid
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Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
really interesting with their early activities attacking in cross formation and similar things, kinda like the mormons when they did battle in the US. | ||
Dagobert
Netherlands1858 Posts
On March 07 2012 08:05 Deadeight wrote: There's been a few things like this. Like in Liberia where they fed child soldiers drugs and made them eat people. It really surprises me in a way that things like this still go on in the world, but I guess I'm so far removed from them. + Show Spoiler [comment with perhaps slightly poor taste] + I couldn't help but expect Joseph Kony to turn out to be Marlon Brando. Yea, Liberia is fucked up. The initiation rite for a boy soldier is to + Show Spoiler + rape his mother | ||
darthfoley
United States7999 Posts
I feel like everyone needs to watch this. It makes me sad. | ||
ClanRH.TV
United States462 Posts
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Korste
United States64 Posts
spread the word to the rest of the sc community | ||
ClanRH.TV
United States462 Posts
On March 07 2012 07:41 mememolly wrote: The thing is, this dude and his kid probably pass homeless guys on the street everyday and do nothing, maybe give them some change but nothing major. The reason they have taken on this Kony guy is because it is sexy, it is grand and exciting, it gives their life meaning, they wouldn't get headlines or sexy african locations if they were to give homeless dudes a bath and some food and a bed for the night. "Causes" like this are never about helping anyone, not primarily anyway, it is always about the desires (and the satisfaction of those desires) of the person behind the "cause." Don't get me wrong the Kony guy is contemptible and deserves taking down but the american dude is just as contemptible imo, but for other reasons. Honestly, I don't get that feeling even one bit. I think that your entire statement above is one of the most selfish, maybe even jealous things I've ever heard. I hope to God you don't actually believe the garbage you just spewed into this thread. This man clearly cares about the well-being of the people he's fighting for and to even attempt to discredit all the good things he's done to help these people would be nothing more than craziness. If you have to try and justify his kindness in these terms it goes to show that you must be seriously lacking in compassion of your own. Your statement makes me sick. | ||
ClanRH.TV
United States462 Posts
On March 07 2012 08:31 Flaccid wrote: Three pages of TL's self-righteous-twat-brigade coming out to complain about how the message is presented rather than acknowledging the message itself. Unbelievable. I wonder how many of those presuming to know so much about the film-maker's intentions had actually heard about Kony before coming into this thread? If this helps awareness, that's all that matters. Amen man. It's really quite terrible to have to come onto teamliquid everyday and see this same general thing all the freakin time. Sometimes I wonder what some of the ignorant people on the forums would say if they weren't hidden behind the safety of their computer screens. | ||
ClanRH.TV
United States462 Posts
On March 07 2012 08:27 HeavOnEarth wrote: yar i found it funny how hes entirely clueless and hopeful for something that will never happen. ie taking down one guy and ending the war. lol I found it funny that as you sit on your ass mocking him, he's actually trying to do something to change people's lives for the better. Someone here is definitely clueless and hopeless (HINT: It's not him). | ||
darthfoley
United States7999 Posts
On March 07 2012 09:54 ClanRH.TV wrote: Honestly, I don't get that feeling even one bit. I think that your entire statement above is one of the most selfish, maybe even jealous things I've ever heard. I hope to God you don't actually believe the garbage you just spewed into this thread. This man clearly cares about the well-being of the people he's fighting for and to even attempt to discredit all the good things he's done to help these people would be nothing more than craziness. If you have to try and justify his kindness in these terms it goes to show that you must be seriously lacking in compassion of your own. Your statement makes me sick. Hit the nail on the head, i couldn't have said it better. | ||
.Aar
Korea (South)2177 Posts
On March 07 2012 04:26 Tufas wrote: I really do not like how they made the video. The dramatic music, slow camera changes, big voice-over, crying children, dead people and mixed with the opposite happy son to show the contrast. Populist method of bringing your message over to others will never fair good with me but I already knew mr. kony so I had to stop after five minutes because that sort of sensationalism makes me crazy. Now if anyone believes that I just critiqued the reason why he did it, you are wrong. He will most likely get most attention out of it and will see it as a path to biggest recognition with his tools. Legit method, I cannot blame him for that. A lot of people will respond best to this sort of message but I would be happier if people didn`t. The same style can be applied to propaganda and fear-mongering videos and he obviously did not to that, but the system is the same. Beware of videos/messages/truths that come this way, it has nothing to do with news or journalism. As far as I know he never claimed to be that so how can I blame him for using this ? I cannot. He was most likely very frustrated as nothing happened and had to do something. It is sad that it had to come that far but now that he has done it, we will see what is going to happen. The cynic in me says nothing but we can always hope for the best. Still a bad video but many people will disagree with me Again, I am not playing down his message at all. if nothing else worked, he can at least try it this way. Only the method makes me crazy. CRAZY. What would you have had him do/ Provide hundreds of hours of footage and statistics so people can have a 100% complete understanding of everything everywhere forever? edit: ohgod "edgy" children. Seems like some people can't let anyone do anything without having some "enlightened" critique of their message or methods, just for the sake of seeming superior without actually presenting any serious thought. | ||
Zuxo
Sweden395 Posts
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Nqsty
United Kingdom118 Posts
However I always have problems with these projects, there seems to be this new idea that awareness = solution, which I really don't agree with.. I mean of course it helps if the whole world knows about something, but the whole world new about Muammar Gaddafi for years and nothing happened until 4 of the world's most powerful nations decided to invest heavily into his capture. I guess my problem really comes from the fact that I just feel so hypocritical when I support these causes, sure I can give £5 a month and like their Facebook page but in all honesty more likely that not, the next day I'll just go on with my life and forget about it as will all the others. I give a lot of money to charity I can relate to, but I just don't really trust in these waves of charity from kids in developed worlds completely disconnected from the real problem 10,000 miles away, and would have difficulty believing they could lead to a really positive and deep rooted solution or outcome. Also, the whole bringing your kid into the film was BS, but that's just me probably. Having said that, major respect, its a beautiful life dedication, and truly touching. | ||
MrMotionPicture
United States4327 Posts
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Gofarman
Canada645 Posts
When you consider the clout 1st world occupants can bear compared to their 3rd world equals awareness is the most important thing. Interesting video. Deserves a spotlight methinks. | ||
HailPlays
39 Posts
On March 07 2012 08:17 Conti wrote: And to those that say "I won't give them any money.": You clearly did not watch the documentary and are entirely missing the point of all this. The documentary is partly at fault here, though, since it does not explain its plan for action until the very end. It's not about begging for money that will vanish on the way to Africa, it's about getting the attention of the people that can actually do something about this. It's about getting the public to talk about this so the politicians can't ignore it any longer. I said I won't give them money, and I both watched and understood the documentary. I won't give them money because I don't like the way they are doing this. It has nothing to do with whether or not the money will vanish in Africa. I just don't appreciate the manipulative approach. That said I support the cause wholeheartedly, which is precisely why I said that i'll personally do my part to raise awareness about Kony in my particular corner of the world. If anything that is more appropriate and fits better with their stated goal than donating. | ||
phoenix`down
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DwD
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