Teacher in trouble for reading Ender's Game - Page 3
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Torte de Lini
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wunsun
Canada622 Posts
On March 16 2012 07:36 elsation wrote: Yeah, I think this is the key point. which book was used isnt really important. As an aside though, it is a great book. I feel that this is more of an excuse than an actual reason. If the school thought the book is proper, I think the teacher would be reprimanded maybe with an official letter. However, the teacher is put on administrative leave which seems (to me at least) to be much more serious. | ||
Monsen
Germany2548 Posts
On March 16 2012 07:36 elsation wrote: Yeah, I think this is the key point. which book was used isnt really important. As an aside though, it is a great book. I'm not sure about that. Proper procedures or not, the outrage was obviously about the (supposed) contents of the reading, no? | ||
Zergneedsfood
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Dave-o
United States26 Posts
On March 16 2012 07:19 Monsen wrote: Congratulations america. Though I would not generalize an entire country based off of one incident but... This post? From a German poster..... the irony. | ||
shaftofpleasure
Korea (North)1375 Posts
On March 16 2012 07:22 Warlock40 wrote: This incident is clearly indicative of the policy in every school in America. Among the Developed countries, The US, I think, is the only one that I can think of that has these type problems. I can't really figure out what's the problem but I think it's about the urge of the US people to complain about anyone & anything they do not like. Americans really love their freedom to complain. | ||
Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
On March 16 2012 07:22 Warlock40 wrote: This incident is clearly indicative of the policy in every school in America. FUCK YEAH! | ||
bubO
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Grohg
United States243 Posts
The issue wouldn't have existed if the book hadn't been viewed in a negative manner. The fact that it didn't go through the proper channels to be authorized is irrelevant. It might have led to this story being a big deal but I think the bigger issue is that a high school aged kid couldn't be exposed to anything other than Disney fantasy without feeling offended. | ||
Tanukki
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bpat
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Monsen
Germany2548 Posts
On March 16 2012 07:41 Dave-o wrote: Though I would not generalize an entire country based off of one incident but... This post? From a German poster..... the irony. Because of all those news from Germany where the content of books that are widely considered classics are suddenly "pornographic". Also Germans are on the forefront of doubting evolution and questioning whether birth control is morally ok in 2012. Yeah, we are a backward country- I'm a hypocrite. | ||
homeless_guy
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rabidch
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KCrazy
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AngryFarmer
United States560 Posts
On March 16 2012 07:44 shaftofpleasure wrote: Among the Developed countries, The US, I think, is the only one that I can think of that has these type problems. I can't really figure out what's the problem but I think it's about the urge of the US people to complain about anyone & anything they do not like. Americans really love their freedom to complain. I feel like because this happened in one place it could totally happen in another place. Sometimes doing a morally right thing can become something legally wrong. It's quite sad. | ||
Saturnize
United States2473 Posts
Shame I haven't read this book either. I've always put off reading it. | ||
Nightfal
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elsation
Australia661 Posts
On March 16 2012 07:40 Monsen wrote: I'm not sure about that. Proper procedures or not, the outrage was obviously about the (supposed) contents of the reading, no? I would think if the book was approved by the school, they might have more knowledge of the book and assume the complaints were based on ultra conservative views or a grudge against the specific teacher or some such. They could then make plans to move the child to a separate class when the reading began. The teacher has showed they will read a book to their kids without approval, it is not out of the realms of possibility that they may read a properly inappropriate book. The idea that Enders game is pornographic is laughable, and if the teacher was put on administrative leave for reading it then there should be outrage. However I think if the proper procedures were followed this story would not exist as it could have been solved quickly and amicably. | ||
Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
Similarly, In high school (I went to a private Christian school) we had a lot of books in the library which I think a lot of grown ups at the time might have shied away from or found fairly repulsive in some ways. I remember reading Kiss The Girls by James Patterson, approved by my teacher, for a book review assignment. That book and the book previous to it, which I also read for an assignment, contains some pretty messed up situations. If you've read it I'm sure you'll never forget the scene involving a snake... With all those things being said there are some factors to be considered. Clearly I'm all for children/teenagers beginning to be exposed to more mature content in literature when it's appropriate. However I can understand on some levels the parent's issues with this. I mean, I think deep down most parents have limitations or expectations about what their children should and should be exposed to in film, print and images. Obviously this is going to differ from family to family and even from parent to parent. I can imagine that perhaps in some ways the parent would be more offended by the fact that this book was not "authorised" or consulted upon with the parents. That raises other issues and would probably mean the book wouldn't be read due to the fact that the process of parental approval would likely make it to time consuming and frustrating to introduce anything outside of the standard curriculum. This is where part of the problem is. If everything has to go through this process then nothing will end up being read as I'm sure there will always be at least one conservative parent who's going to make it difficult for everyone else. It will take too long for books to be approved and any precedent set with regards to the level of content will effectively make progress impossible. | ||
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