Man, this movie was all shock and cheesy dialogue. It just grabs the audience's attention with a torture scene. The female lead character was the most annoying. It's a clear attempt to depict a strong female character, but the whole "vindictive bitch" act is hackneyed by her. She starts screaming at other colleagues to show how "emotional" she is after + Show Spoiler +
her dumbass friend idiotically lets a suicide bomber get into their base and explode their car, killing her and other agents
. It's painful to hear her trying to act like some tough guy + Show Spoiler +
that line where she's in a room full of a buncha high-ranking officials and says, "I'm the mother fucker" is the most painful part of the film. The whole "I'M GOING TO KILL BIN LADEN" and writing the number of days on the glass... I mean c'mon wtf
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The movie is overrated just because of that hurt locker writer/director. Hurt Locker wasn't even good. It's the same shock factor that entices audience... just like Deer Hunter and russian roulette.
I liked how the movie depicted what happened in our history for the hunt on Usama, but my main problem with the film is the fact that so many scenes are just drawn out and really take away from the "plot". Probably not the best movie ever created, but somewhat important to see what actually went down for a decade+. Now granted this is a movie so of course not everything is accurate, but it gives you a pretty nice idea.
Just saw the movie. I have to say it's really fascinating, it shows how torture works and the tricks they use to get information, and the slow pace of the movie really builds towards the raid itself.
On January 18 2013 12:18 kamicom wrote: Man, this movie was all shock and cheesy dialogue. It just grabs the audience's attention with a torture scene. The female lead character was the most annoying. It's a clear attempt to depict a strong female character, but the whole "vindictive bitch" act is hackneyed by her. She starts screaming at other colleagues to show how "emotional" she is after + Show Spoiler +
her dumbass friend idiotically lets a suicide bomber get into their base and explode their car, killing her and other agents
. It's painful to hear her trying to act like some tough guy + Show Spoiler +
that line where she's in a room full of a buncha high-ranking officials and says, "I'm the mother fucker" is the most painful part of the film. The whole "I'M GOING TO KILL BIN LADEN" and writing the number of days on the glass... I mean c'mon wtf
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The movie is overrated just because of that hurt locker writer/director. Hurt Locker wasn't even good. It's the same shock factor that entices audience... just like Deer Hunter and russian roulette.
Supposedly they based the character on a "real" female CIA "agent" that they never met or spoke to. They just heard there was a female CIA "agent" and decided to create the plot around her. When I heard that it turned me off instantly. Annoying the way Hollywood fabricates these over-the-top female lead characters.
Really good, I'm sad I missed Bigelow before because she's an excellent director. As for the movie itself it's dry, doesn't lie on the psychological side at all and focus on the action, and it's really well done. The action sequence at the end is really well done, especially considering there is virtually no opposition. The genre is not my cup of tea but I must admit this is well done. 7/10
On January 18 2013 12:18 kamicom wrote: Man, this movie was all shock and cheesy dialogue. It just grabs the audience's attention with a torture scene. The female lead character was the most annoying. It's a clear attempt to depict a strong female character, but the whole "vindictive bitch" act is hackneyed by her. She starts screaming at other colleagues to show how "emotional" she is after + Show Spoiler +
her dumbass friend idiotically lets a suicide bomber get into their base and explode their car, killing her and other agents
. It's painful to hear her trying to act like some tough guy + Show Spoiler +
that line where she's in a room full of a buncha high-ranking officials and says, "I'm the mother fucker" is the most painful part of the film. The whole "I'M GOING TO KILL BIN LADEN" and writing the number of days on the glass... I mean c'mon wtf
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The movie is overrated just because of that hurt locker writer/director. Hurt Locker wasn't even good. It's the same shock factor that entices audience... just like Deer Hunter and russian roulette.
Supposedly they based the character on a "real" female CIA "agent" that they never met or spoke to. They just heard there was a female CIA "agent" and decided to create the plot around her. When I heard that it turned me off instantly. Annoying the way Hollywood fabricates these over-the-top female lead characters.
We do not know that really. There are many sources saying that Maya or Jen (another name used in other works) is a real person while other sources say it is an embodiment of different CIA agents. There is controversy revolving around Mark Boal (writer) who presumably had access to confidential government files regarding the buildup to the raid and the raid itself. These are some sources regarding Maya.
On January 28 2013 03:30 MountainDewJunkie wrote: So how much of this was a sort of disguised patriotic movie, if I may ask? I've read a testimony or two that say they didn't feel that way.
The movie does not have MURICA written over it. The movie feels quite neutral unlike the other movie called SEAL Team Six: The Raid on Osama Bin Laden. Zero Dark Thirty just focuses around Maya and how she and the CIA handled the manhunt. There is a small sense of patriotism right at the end, but it's nothing big.
For people who criticized some of Chastain's dialogue, apparently some of it are spoken words from the real Maya herself. They do not say which lines, but of course, some of it are dramatized. You can find out more in the video.
Agreed with the criticism in this thread. I think Kathryn Bigelow is simply an action director. The last half hour was very well done. Everything before that was not. By all standards of even American political/spy thrillers, the story parts of the movie were unexceptional. I just find it ironic that someone like Haneke will probably receive an Oscar for one of his most non-political films while no one gave two shits about Cache, whereas critics are head over heels about this film which appears political but is in fact unsophisticated and even dull in some parts. I will never agree with the Hollywood aesthetic towards war, the best political films will always be fiction for me.
Given all that I've heard about the infamous torture scene I've been hesitant to watch the film. But I'm sure I'll watch it sooner or later. I may want to show it to my World History 2 class to discuss contemporary issues of terrorism and the relationship that governments have to it.
Wouldnt be surprised if there was a twist in this movie and Osama lives in the end or Morgan Freeman steps in and give some nice speech and everybody is enlightened (kinda like the ending in Inglorious Basterds). Well, thats what id expect if it was directed by M night Shymalan
I just started watching this o.O I think that the criticism of torture being glorified by the movie really doesn't hold a lot of weight. While I don't hate Dan as a character, I definitely have a better appreciation of the horrors the CIA put prisoners through. It's disgusting.
The main problem with this movie was the trailer, the movie is amazing, but its nothing like the trailer and was not what I was expecting at all. In the end I came out liking the movie, but also a bit confused.
They made it out to be some black ops action movie, and instead what you got was an intellectual eye-opening film with very unique cinematography, where not all the information is spoon fed and you have to figure it out yourself. The beauty of this movie lies off the screen, not what is shown to you directly. Very few movies blur the lines of morality, and let the viewer decide for themselves.
Not really a spoiler as it kinda just jumps into and doesn't really affect the plot, but just incase. + Show Spoiler +
I think if I saw the movie again, I would discover a lot more things that I didn't the first time. Things like the torture methods changing after the Obama election, and CIA operatives looking at the change in political dynamics (from Bush to Obama), one of them deciding to retire and trying to convince another to do the same, realizing that they could end up in military court even though they were simply following orders from the previous president.
The trailer just ended up attracting the wrong bunch of people, and pushing away the people that would have actually really enjoyed it. People who are gonna wanna watch the next Rambo are simply not going to appreciate that kind of stuff.
Something like The DaVinci Code where you kind of knew what you were up for would have been better, but this movie is simply the opposite of what I expected and it was really hard to change my train of thought halfway through the movie.