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MyLostTemple
United States2921 Posts
I'm making plans to help get the word out about these GomTV vods and maintain a central location where people can access all of my stuff. I can't do this alone. I need help from other people and i'm looking for volunteers.
I need people with web design skills. I want a web page where people can get access to all my material without having to use google or thumb through different threads. I'm thinking about putting other humorous stuff up and maybe some merchandise. It would also be a place where SC replays would be posted of myself and other SC gamers.
On the other side of my project i need a handful of people who can help me get news posted about upcoming casts. While i can always get my news posted on tl.net or gosugamers.net, i would like to get this stuff on as many sc web pages as possible. I'd also like to get this information on other generic e-sports web pages too.
Please PM me if you think you could help me out. The more accessible we can make these English casts the more likely we are to see an increase of them in the future.
Thanks <3
--Tasteless
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That website would be amazing.
<3 GL
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What about getting your own section on Teamliquid? Called Korean Professionality feat. Tasteless ? I mean Teamliquid is the biggest coverage site you will find concerning starcraft and korea.
If you want an own homepage (choose whatever URL you like, if you can pay it) and ask for example zatic to help you out. He's a great coder, but I don't know about his PHP/HTML skills.
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MyTasteless.com is not taken yet
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On April 15 2008 14:56 G.s)NarutO wrote: MyTasteless.com is not taken yet it is now! not selling for less than $500.
jk, also bump
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do you have a server where you could store it?
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If you are looking for a professional e-commerce website, I can help. I've been in the web design / internet development business for 5 years, and creating a starcraft-related site would be a blast. I've done everything from simple 5 page sites to web-based applications for the government.
This would not be volunteer work. I can show you my portfolio and we can discuss payment options. I have also worked out revenue sharing arrangements in the past.
I'm sure you have friends or acquaintances that know a little HTML, but I make my living by building profitable websites for my clients. PM me if you are interested.
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Great idea, but I bet that kind of sites produce huge amounts of traffic...
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Can't you afford to hire someone with your winnings?
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
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MyLostTemple
United States2921 Posts
On April 15 2008 15:20 Ilvy wrote: do you have a server where you could store it?
i was mainly planning on doing links to my vids while in the future getting other servers to host different videos i would be making. i was also thinking of setting up a weekly show where i talk about gaming.
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i think ivvy was asking if you have a domain or web server already set up. usually ppl can design and code the site for you but you have to bear the cost of the server + domain etc...
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we could all start to use tasteless "smilies" all the time instead of regular smilies
i would be a little apprehensive of this catching on but it cud turn out fun
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Setting up a basic website and helping with Wordpress is not a biggie. I can do that for a very limited amount (I will pay for it obviously), However customising it and then getting the stuff (live news feeds) and stuff seems to be a bit out of my skill level.. so if you are willing to experiment, send me a pm..
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Germany2896 Posts
I can help a bit with the php+mysql/html+css part. Pretty graphics are beyond my skill^^
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On April 15 2008 19:16 MyLostTemple wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2008 15:20 Ilvy wrote: do you have a server where you could store it? i was mainly planning on doing links to my vids while in the future getting other servers to host different videos i would be making. i was also thinking of setting up a weekly show where i talk about gaming. i'd watch that, get gom to stream it and we can watch it on the english player
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this would rule, this would help the entire foreign community
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On April 15 2008 18:44 R1CH wrote:Can't you afford to hire someone with your winnings? when was this?
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I'll offer my 2 cents mostly on what I think makes web pages sort of suck. First of all, I don't "follow" the pro scene all that much. I know there's 4 leagues, osl, msl, proleague, and gomtv. Most websites give news in a calendar format, without any regard for the tournament. So for a more passive addict of SC, this causes a lot of problems. By the time I know a player I like played a match, 2 other tournaments worth of news has been posted (or not posted), and then I have to go through 4 threads of live reports to find out which tournament the game occurred. Then I have to go to SC2gg.com and search through 14 commentators looking to see if it's been done in English. Then if it's that tournament where there's like a round robin (I think it was msl) in groups sometimes labeled 1-9 and other times a-i, I have to find a 4 month old thread on tl.net listing who's in the groups since this data appears nowhere else I guess.
Now for constructive criticism for what would make the formatting of a website good for an audience like me.
1) Have GOMTV news. Like a section where that's all you can read. Friday matches blah blah blah. next line Tuesday matches blah blah blah. Pick either pregame talk, or post game review and only post that in the news. If you have pregame talk make sure the date and time of the game is very visible. If it's post game talk, or simply a link to the video have this updated as close to real time as possible.
If you were to take on other events like WCG, either have a "special" news section, or if it's ongoing like maybe you comment for OSL and GOMtv have two different news sections. one for gom one for osl.
2) If your going to have a collaboration with other commentators, perhaps have links to their videos either in the news, or the first post. I'm sure everyone has their "favorite" commentators, and it really sucks when you watch a game in korean then find out a week later the favorite covered the game. So also perhaps have a "english commentary by _____ to come".
3) Make sure the players are labeled clearly in each match.
I know you're going to get a lot of die hard fans replying, and the don't mind or don't notice these problems, but I think if there's a reach for a broader audience these are key points to consider when you choose your website format.
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Ok not to bash this idea.. but you need to actually pay people to do your website, if you don't, it will not be a good enough website to carry all the things you demand for it to have. That's just the reality. Alot of work goes into making a good website, and i highly doubt anyone is willing to spend all the time needed for it to be a good site for free.
Good luck though.
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Subsection of TL.net seems best to me.
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On April 15 2008 23:24 yare wrote: I'll offer my 2 cents mostly on what I think makes web pages sort of suck. First of all, I don't "follow" the pro scene all that much. I know there's 4 leagues, osl, msl, proleague, and gomtv. Most websites give news in a calendar format, without any regard for the tournament. So for a more passive addict of SC, this causes a lot of problems. By the time I know a player I like played a match, 2 other tournaments worth of news has been posted (or not posted), and then I have to go through 4 threads of live reports to find out which tournament the game occurred. Then I have to go to SC2gg.com and search through 14 commentators looking to see if it's been done in English. Then if it's that tournament where there's like a round robin (I think it was msl) in groups sometimes labeled 1-9 and other times a-i, I have to find a 4 month old thread on tl.net listing who's in the groups since this data appears nowhere else I guess.
Now for constructive criticism for what would make the formatting of a website good for an audience like me.
1) Have GOMTV news. Like a section where that's all you can read. Friday matches blah blah blah. next line Tuesday matches blah blah blah. Pick either pregame talk, or post game review and only post that in the news. If you have pregame talk make sure the date and time of the game is very visible. If it's post game talk, or simply a link to the video have this updated as close to real time as possible.
If you were to take on other events like WCG, either have a "special" news section, or if it's ongoing like maybe you comment for OSL and GOMtv have two different news sections. one for gom one for osl.
2) If your going to have a collaboration with other commentators, perhaps have links to their videos either in the news, or the first post. I'm sure everyone has their "favorite" commentators, and it really sucks when you watch a game in korean then find out a week later the favorite covered the game. So also perhaps have a "english commentary by _____ to come".
3) Make sure the players are labeled clearly in each match.
I know you're going to get a lot of die hard fans replying, and the don't mind or don't notice these problems, but I think if there's a reach for a broader audience these are key points to consider when you choose your website format.
Hey, I'm the owner of sc2gg, and I have to say, it's good to read most posts like this, they generally help.
You definitely are on the right track, and a lot of what you say is what we're trying to get a better handle on right now - organization, and the like, and we're doing so in the forums right now. We're trying to make it possible for people to see all the games with commentary by a variety of different voices.
One thing you can do if you haven't already is subscribe to them, and on your subscription page, it tells you who's posted what and how recently, and if you know what's going on in the league, have looked at the schedule here on TL or on my site. Like I say, for each group of games (ODT is next), I'm making a comprehensive sticky post to keep people in the loop while the games are going on.
As for your suggestions regarding Tasteless site, I'll answer those as well.
1) This is logical, and very much achievable. There are certainly ways of making things easily accessibly and updateable, and I'm sure that the people who take care of things here at TL are familiar with those ways, just like we are. It all really depends on what exactly Tasteless would like, because as long as everyone is on the same page, a little time is all it takes.
2) I'm trying to organize this for all commentators on my site right now, as explained above.
3) A naming convention for games is also something I want to see the light of day with and has been discussed.
Again, thank you for the suggestions, it's good to write these sorts of things because nothing ever gets done otherwise. It takes a little time to make things right, like I know sc2gg is pretty butt ugly right about now, but that's changing too. Just takes time. Keep discussing!
Ok not to bash this idea.. but you need to actually pay people to do your website, if you don't, it will not be a good enough website to carry all the things you demand for it to have. That's just the reality. Alot of work goes into making a good website, and i highly doubt anyone is willing to spend all the time needed for it to be a good site for free.
I agree with you - a lot of work, far more than I'd ever believed possible, goes into making a good website. But I also only really know of one SC-related website that someone actually said, "you know, I'm going to start a SC website, and it will be my full time job!", and have that actually happen. It's very expensive to hire people, and hard to afford - I know I can't. However, I think your doubt is misplaced A lot of people are really awesome people, and I'm actually 100% sure that Tasteless will get a decent, manageable and improving site for his stuff. I can't be the only one who understands what he's done for SC and the community as a whole.
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hey mister owner, i have an idea. dont take this the wrong way, but why dont you just make sc2gg.com a big link to TL, and ill bet you guys would get some responsibility here as well. its kinda like your site and all the others is hd-dvd, and TL is bluray.
TL united for mannerism !!
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Radival,
I just want to express my appreciation for the fact that your website exists. And thank you for taking my little rant well. Butt ugly is fine with me btw. It seems the more "slick" or "fancy" a website gets the less user friendly it gets.
And in case my first point wasnt' as clear as I intended. What would be most helpful for me, is like on your site instead of having one news column, have 5-6. teachings, osl, msl, gomtv, foreign events, and a catch all general news.
Thanks,
Yare
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Teamliquid seems to do well with volunteer work, I don't see why Tasteless should rule out the possibility of a talented web designer who happens to watch the proscene volunteering to help out. I'm not into web design anymore but it seems like this would be a nice portfolio piece if one has the time.
That said, paying for a web designer is the sure fire way when you need something done and you need it done now.
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Yare, thank you for your comments, I will explain a little better myself.
Up until the news posting system update (ie, WordPress, which is a really, really awful thing, by the way - only use it if you have to, because it's a fight), anyway, up until that, you could click on the links in the top red bar that detailed the particulars of what you wanted (ie, Korean Leagues would give you info in that category.)
In WordPress, each news story is filed under a category that it applies to, and the idea was that it would be able to sort that depending on what you wanted to see. But now it's broken, and has been a few days. In the future, unknown as to when, since it's actually a little difficult to get that working, and no one on the site likes fighting with WordPress, it may not get fixed for a bit. When it does, though, you'll definitely see an improved news sorting function, very much in line with what you described, as we discussed it internally a while ago too.
The site is always in a state of updating, hehe, and like Phyre says, people are volunteering their time to help make things better, so it's not going to get done immediately. I really do wish I had the money to pay for it straight up, because I definitely would do so. Maybe I'll win the lottery.. :/ Tasteless situation is very similar, Phyre described it perfectly.
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I love sc2gg.com. I go there every so often to check for new commentaries. And from a spectator point of view I find it sad that I cannot look for tasteless vods there. It would be great if we could find all english vods in the same site. If you two could arrange something to work together then I, as an spectator, would love it.
I would be really helpful if anytime we wish to watch an english vod we could go to that one site. Tasteless covers the GomTV vods. While other sc2gg commentaries try to cover the others.
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Damn I'd love to have some place where I could just sit and watch tasteless all day without having to search around.
GG SAMBO! STARCRAFT UNIVERSE?
Rofl I fucking love that classic intro. I giggle every time.
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On April 15 2008 14:46 MyLostTemple wrote: ...I need help from other people and i'm looking for volunteers....
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On April 11 2008 03:23 MyLostTemple wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2008 03:05 ATeddyBear wrote: if given the opportunity to cast tsl, would you do it? <3 yes if i'm paid. by the way, when i say stuff like that, it's not because i'm a greedy dick. it's because overall game casters are not paid enough and i refuse to cast events unless i'm paid; this is to push the industry towards a more professional level.
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This sounds like a really good set of ideas... I think you have the ability and opportunity... Jump on it!
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Canada9720 Posts
not to rag on tasteless, but it's kind of amusing to read those quotes and then afterwards read about how he's one of the highest paid commentators
On March 29 2008 04:30 MyLostTemple wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2008 04:26 travis wrote: You probably have talked about this before - but your first time casting in korea - were you scared or nervous?
Also, how much do you get paid? i get asked this a lot, but i really don't get nervous before any cast. People who get too nervous aren't made for broadcasting. I was not nervous my first time nor was i nervous before the GSI. I do get an adrenaline rush, but i find this helpful rather than hurtful. I'm paid very very well. I'm not interested in discussing the exact numbers but i'm probably one of the highest paid (if not the highest paid) among game casters. Although this depends on events. regardless, gl with your site
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Great Tasteless hope this thing turns out good and well.
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United States4991 Posts
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United States1653 Posts
On April 15 2008 20:28 perisie xx wrote:we could all start to use tasteless "smilies" all the time instead of regular smilies i would be a little apprehensive of this catching on but it cud turn out fun
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Does anyone else think he looks like Jim Carrey in that picture?
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