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Top 3 heroes for new characters
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Parodoxx
United States549 Posts
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weikor
Austria580 Posts
Sure, if youre bad at mobas, and this is your first one - you will suck pretty badly. But thats also the case with any of the reccomended heroes. I for one think that the skill requirement between heroes of the same role (ETC, Muradin, Arthas) matters much less than the role you play. Support is gernerally a more forgiving role for newer players. Assasins are difficult to play as they require experience in positioning and comfort in clickspeed. | ||
FeiLing
Germany428 Posts
Anubarak - Stun, Escape, again cheap(4k) (a 7k Arthas for an beginner? Can not recommend at all). Tassadar - because of E. And also storming is super fun. Again with only 4k, cheap. Healers? NOPE. We all know healers will be blamed all the time, even if it wasn't their fault at all. Tanks and Assassins (I'm looking at you Illidan in particular) that overextend beyond imagination WILL be extremely toxic towards their healers, which isn't exactly what a newbie needs. I believe these heroes are perfect for newbies, as they are cheap, never useless as they'll always contribute to a fight fairly well (compare to say a Nova) and most importantly, they aren't as boring to play as for e.g. a Lili. | ||
Big G
Italy835 Posts
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On May 23 2015 21:40 Big G wrote: Valla - Muradin - Tassadar IMHO This. | ||
Garsecg
United States129 Posts
For these reasons, she is a good starting character. As noted, she doesn't have an escape, but she has all the tools to help you accomplish objectives in the games and to begin to learn about proper positioning/map awareness. | ||
Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On May 23 2015 21:40 Big G wrote: Valla - Muradin - Tassadar IMHO Li Li instead of Tassadar, he's actually rather complex, because you can effectively use plasma shield on buildings and turrets and this is not something new players would be aware of. He's also not as brain-dead as the old archon-carry build, you can create insane synergy with the correct talent sets. | ||
TokO
Norway577 Posts
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Parodoxx
United States549 Posts
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
It highly depends on how you define new person. For a total beginner Lili is the correct answer because you can observe the game. And no the skillidans won't flame a beginner, because they will rush in together and die until the beginner learns it is a bad idea. Also they blame everyone for not dieing with them, role is unimportant in that regard. Also picking a healer will mean you are more likely to find another support on the other side and those games usually are better for learning the game. Atleast Compared to 5 vs 5 Assassins. But to be honest, every hero that has no special ruleset and that doesn't need support is a good pick. Because if you feel comfortable with something you learn way faster. I think you get a really distorted view of the game if you play Zagara so I would never recommend her to a beginner, that actually plans to play more then one hero. Especially on the lower skill level creep mechanic changes the game in extreme fashion. That being said, Zagara is an awesome hero for QM, because the better your creep spread the higher is the chance your team won't die in silly fashion. Bu the moment you play other heroes you will run past bushes when the whole enemy team is missing. You will push lanes to hard and other really silly things. | ||
Garsecg
United States129 Posts
I think you get a really distorted view of the game if you play Zagara so I would never recommend her to a beginner, that actually plans to play more then one hero. Especially on the lower skill level creep mechanic changes the game in extreme fashion. That being said, Zagara is an awesome hero for QM, because the better your creep spread the higher is the chance your team won't die in silly fashion. I take your point as to getting a distorted view of the game, but I still think of all the specialist heroes, Zagara is the best for a beginner. I think you are putting too much emphasis on how much creep changes the game. I see it kind of like Raynor -- his extra range allows you to bully heroes in your lane if you have good mechanics, but if you don't have good mechanics, that benefit lies fallow. And it doesn't mean Raynor is bad, just that you're missing out on what can be a powerful aspect of his play. With Zagara, if you don't use her creep at all, which I've watched players do, she can still be very powerful. She still has great pushing potential and great staying power in the lane because of her ability to heal herself. Creep enables her to escape relatively easily. Her only downside -- no real escape -- is the only punishing thing about her, and I think that having that as her single weakness is actually a good thing. Learning how to position yourself is perhaps the most difficult thing to learn in this game in my opinion, so why not have a hero that is great at everything BUT that in order to catalyze the learning process? I think you can learn some different stuff with Zagara than you can with other heroes because she gives you the ability to react to the things going on around you in different ways. I believe this translates to faster learning. For instance, muradin, valla and tassadar can be argued to be good for new players because they have escapes. This means that when a new player makes a mistake, they have the ability to correct it. With Zagara, you can push the hero away with your damage, but if you make a big mistake, you'll die. You have the ability to prevent your biggest problem with your trait -- creep tumors. Although it comes up in different contexts, I believe Zagara offers the same potential for reactive play, and thus is a strong choice to consider for a beginner, especially if they want to try out a specialist and get used to the idea that a specialist is especially good at pushing lanes. I mean, how else are new players going to learn these things? I don't think Zagara is necessarily the best hero for new players, but my wife likes her the best out of the 15 or so heroes she has, so that's really all I'm going on. I have a lot of experience with games and in the genre, so it's tough for me to empathize with exactly what character is best for a new player. Half of my words here are really just reasons she's given me for why she likes Zagara -- as a beginner. One more example -- you cite Lili as a good beginner hero. I thought she was too, so my wife got her. Lili is one of her least favorite characters and she thinks she is one of the most difficult heroes to play. Reasons: 1. You have to press a lot of buttons. If you aren't good at moving around the battlefield and positioning, it's difficult to focus on pressing buttons and moving your character at the same time. (Not for me, I'm awesome at video games, but it was for her.) 2. Because you are the healer, a lot of people attack you. 3. Because you are the healer, there is more pressure from your team to perform. Unlike DPS which sometimes has the luxury of fading into the background, you are often expected to be right next to your team and with them at all of the important times. If you aren't, you get yelled at. This higher-stress environment means that it was more difficult to learn the game on Lili for my wife than it was on Valla or her current favorite, Zagara. I don't think there are any right answers, but for one beginner, Zagara was the path to happiness. She feels that of all the characters, Zagara gave her game knowledge quickly. And maybe it's because Zagara was her 4th or 5th character, but it's the one where she feels most comfortable now. | ||
DPK
Canada487 Posts
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Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
All straightforward roles, cheap and exemplify what the role does. Valla just do safe dps while being fragile, simple aoe and a dash. Muradin tankiest hero in the game right now, do little damage but make sure to soak, have an escape and do more ccing and preventing damage than actually killing. Malfurion, best sustain in the game just stick to others and make sure they are full hp and mana while poking and adding some cc. Tassadar is a bit different in his role and not a classic support in that he doesn't heal and often is better off playing solo because of his great sololane options. Vision control is also not really a great thing to start off with as it only becomes huge if you are further. Arthas likewise is not the best of tanks to start off with, weak and expensive at the moment and without an escape and good waveclear often needs to do non traditional tank stuff to do well. | ||
Parodoxx
United States549 Posts
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Big G
Italy835 Posts
On May 24 2015 01:10 Sponkz wrote: Li Li instead of Tassadar, he's actually rather complex, because you can effectively use plasma shield on buildings and turrets and this is not something new players would be aware of. He's also not as brain-dead as the old archon-carry build, you can create insane synergy with the correct talent sets. A complex hero IMHO isn't a bad idea for beginners as long as he's forgiving and mechanically easy to play, which Tassadar is. He has a super flexible talent tree but at the same time it's unlikely to screw up the build badly (at least at lower levels), because his basic skill set is good in itself and 80% of his talents have a use. Sure, beginners don't know the importance of vision and are likely to ignore Oracle... that's exactly why they should play Tassadar. Eventually they'll learn to use the D, to pick defensive talents if they're dying too much, go full damage if there is another support, when to pick situational talents, etc. Sure, Lili is much less complex... and she has much less to teach IMHO. | ||
Parodoxx
United States549 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States15561 Posts
On May 24 2015 08:07 Markwerf wrote: Valla, Muradin, Malfurion. All straightforward roles, cheap and exemplify what the role does. Valla just do safe dps while being fragile, simple aoe and a dash. Muradin tankiest hero in the game right now, do little damage but make sure to soak, have an escape and do more ccing and preventing damage than actually killing. Malfurion, best sustain in the game just stick to others and make sure they are full hp and mana while poking and adding some cc. Tassadar is a bit different in his role and not a classic support in that he doesn't heal and often is better off playing solo because of his great sololane options. Vision control is also not really a great thing to start off with as it only becomes huge if you are further. Arthas likewise is not the best of tanks to start off with, weak and expensive at the moment and without an escape and good waveclear often needs to do non traditional tank stuff to do well. Definitely agreed with Malfurion. He is by far the most straight forward of the Support heroes unless you're trying one of the funkier builds. | ||
intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States15561 Posts
On May 26 2015 03:00 IntoTheheart wrote: What about Raynor? Raynor is really easy to play, but he's also really easy to be terrible with. A bad valla still at least has great burst, a bad Raynor doesn't really have anything except Hyperion. | ||
Tenks
United States3104 Posts
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