General Discussion Gul'dan patch - Page 4
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FeyFey
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karazax
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karazax
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MotherFox
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ThomasjServo
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karazax
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MotherFox
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On July 13 2016 01:35 ThomasjServo wrote: I get the sense Gul'Dan will enter the nexus with not a bang but a whimper. What do you guys think? I'll have to get a sense of what it's like to play against him, but he doesn't seem that interesting of a hero. If he does a lot of damage he'll be good. If not, he won't be. Not much to it other than that, though. | ||
karazax
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karazax
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Patch notes Minion damage is 50% extra, not 200% extra as PTR patch notes said. Haven't checkedl the other changes. | ||
Valiver
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DarkPlasmaBall
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On July 13 2016 02:52 karazax wrote: https://youtu.be/-8g_qxJvT7g?t=2 Patch notes Minion damage is 50% extra, not 200% extra as PTR patch notes said. Haven't checkedl the other changes. Minions on CH during a curse are awesome :D | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
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On July 13 2016 02:27 karazax wrote: Gul'dan has incredible sustain, Fear is one of the best initiators in the game, and he has great wave clear, with solid team fight damage, and it seems like there are several viable builds. Of course PTR is hard to judge accurately, but most of the streamers and pros I watched on the PTR seemed to put him between tier 1 and tier 2 on first impressions. Patch is live in NA now. Grubby just said on his stream that he's a tier 3, fwiw. | ||
Foxxan
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Foxxan
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*Fears an opponent, closest allied hero when cast takes 50% less damage from that opponent for 2sec. Could be from his basic kit with a low cooldown. *Or how about a skillshot with fear. If you hit the enemy on the right side, he runs to the left. Hit him above and he runs south and so on. Dunno. Anyway, his life drain is cool actually. But feels like they should have tried and do "more" with him than he is now. | ||
karazax
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Markwerf
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The build imo will usually be: http://www.heroesnexus.com/talent-calculator/83-guldan?filter-ptr=1#7aBbIbJbHb6aGbTBA For the rest i think the minion, well and globe changes will have less impact than people think. Pure Splitpushing won't improve all that much imo, i do think global heroes get a good boost. For some other heroes i think zagara and azmodan actually got worse after the shakeups. Kerrigan and jaina got better a fair bit better I'd say. Lots of other heroes didn't change all too much. Bw, kharazim and uther all slightly better shaking up supports nicely. Most wtf changes go to greymane, don't really fix his builds plus he got a unneeded buff. Best changes overall to zag, tyrael, jaina and kael. | ||
Larkin
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On July 13 2016 06:30 Foxxan wrote: Gul'dan feels like such a "boring" hero. Blizzard also had the opportunity to make something cooler with how fear works in this game. *Fears an opponent, closest allied hero when cast takes 50% less damage from that opponent for 2sec. Could be from his basic kit with a low cooldown. *Or how about a skillshot with fear. If you hit the enemy on the right side, he runs to the left. Hit him above and he runs south and so on. Dunno. Anyway, his life drain is cool actually. But feels like they should have tried and do "more" with him than he is now. Well it seems that he's really strong. And he's the first hero who can sacrifice life for mana and vice versa. But I personally am glad to see a more 'standard' hero coming out. I feel like it's been a while since we've had just a normal hero added - the previous have all had a very unique gimmick. Adding in cool unique heroes like Medivh, Tracer and Chromie is one thing, but they will only ever be niche picks - which is fine - but to freshen up the hero pool as a whole adding a bunch of standard, solid heroes should be their priority. I hope Auriel is capable of matching Rehgar, Uther and Kharazim for supports. | ||
karazax
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FeyFey
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Which helps in Ranked (well makes her more niche there), but for QM ... its a curse. | ||
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