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On February 28 2012 10:58 Craton wrote:Maokai game: [...] That's all I watched. Basically you waste too much time not farming or ganking. You don't want try invading to catch the enemy jungler when they're stronger than you and you have no escapes.
Thank you, and happy birthday! =)
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On February 28 2012 11:32 Apex wrote: Jesus Smash on Dan Dinh's stream having to deal with a really, really foul-mouthed Cait. Oh man. w/e, more like i had to deal with Dan not being there for picks, then coming top, saying sec, then going to small gols while udyr buttfucked me, then pushing the lane and never coming top again as I had the lane freezed and got zoned for 10 minutes. good fucking game, totally my fault, sigh...
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On February 28 2012 11:37 Mogwai wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 11:32 Apex wrote: Jesus Smash on Dan Dinh's stream having to deal with a really, really foul-mouthed Cait. Oh man. w/e, more like i had to deal with Dan not being there for picks, then coming top, saying sec, then going to small gols while udyr buttfucked me, then pushing the lane and never coming top again as I had the lane freezed and got zoned for 10 minutes. good fucking game, totally my fault, sigh...
Saw that. Dan gets in those kind of moments where he afks during champ select a lot and frankly it's not good.
That was just a disappointing game all around. Nothing much you could do given the situation. Kind of disappointing really because I like Dan but sometimes he gets in those moments where you just kind of go "what are you doing?"
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On February 28 2012 11:01 Shiv. wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 04:47 Two_DoWn wrote:On February 28 2012 04:44 BlueSpace wrote: Is Fizz considered a yordle? No. He is somethin else. Doesn't matter, Ego Ignaxio still has porn of him. Content: What's your favourite jungler that oddly works well enough? I've had some moderate success with jungle TF those days and had a blast, so I was wondering if there's something along those lines out there I haven't tried yet. I'm guessing Noc and Panth play similarly?
I jungled Maokai before he was cool.
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I enjoy jungle Renekton. Clears decently quickly, good AoE, and some good ganks with gap closer and stun.
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On February 28 2012 11:01 Shiv. wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 04:47 Two_DoWn wrote:On February 28 2012 04:44 BlueSpace wrote: Is Fizz considered a yordle? No. He is somethin else. Doesn't matter, Ego Ignaxio still has porn of him. Content: What's your favourite jungler that oddly works well enough? I've had some moderate success with jungle TF those days and had a blast, so I was wondering if there's something along those lines out there I haven't tried yet. I'm guessing Noc and Panth play similarly? oh my god. i just realized i probably was playing with him one game a while back he kept posting pics in chat of that stuff.
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On February 28 2012 10:12 Celial wrote:Hey, I hit 30 about a week ago, haven't played any ranked yet though. Today I played with a few friends, we rotated a bit, and some of them are "high" ELO players (~1500-1800ish). I play jungler, and until today I rarely met a jungler on the other team that outfarmed or outganked me. However, the games today shattered my self image a bit. Almost every game I got outleveled, outfarmed, outganked and on top of that they also counterjungled me heavily. I mean I dont understand it, in the same timeframe as I they did so much more, often with champions that are slower than me. I mean its awesome to see some good junglers, but I have no idea what and how to improve specifically (everyone can say "gank more", "farm more") to bring my game to the next level... Here are some replays, my summoner name is SevenGramRocks. http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/search/?q=sevengramrocksAny help would be appreciated =)
I would make a big post, but I think I can make it very simple. Stop trying to invade. Invading could be a thread in its own right, but you won't kill any competent jungler who checks his red like he should before starting it, and then pulls it into the bush like they should. Also you put a lot of pressure on your lanes because they are further away then the enemy team to where you are. Also you spend way too much time not doing anything and falling behind, which is why you get owned so hard, why you don't find the time to gank lanes often, and why you can get kills. You also have no map awareness once you're safe in the jungle, malz dives two towers deep and you finish wraiths. Bottom lane is killing a tower and you're killing golems.
You need to concentrate for your first clear because of all the things that can go wrong, but after that you aren't going to be dying because you got low and someone showed up at your wraiths. Also buy hp pots when you go back before you have your sustain going. Nothing is worse than being too low to counter gank.
You should try jungling with tanky aoe junglers so you know what you can and can't do in the jungle. Also mundo has built in mechanics that turn his hp into damage, you don't need to build wits end, you need hp.
Also watching streamers who jungle. Saint has knowledge about certain things about champions, theoddone knows everything else about the jungle.
The differences between starting items for jungling depends on how greedy you want to be on finishing your gp/10 item or wriggles. Vamp scepter gets you 150g closer to wriggles than cloth armor does.
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Fiora release pushed back a day.
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Jungle sion is pretty homo with his ganks. Doesn't feel like he ever does much late game though :/
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TSM scrimming Goose right now.
Bans:
TSM-Zilean, Xin, Xerath Goose-Ziggs, Yorick, Wukong
Picks:
TSM-Sivir, GP, Sona, Maokai, Gragas Goose-Corki, Lee Sin, Irelia, Taric, Ezreal
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someone explain xin ban please
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On February 28 2012 12:44 Two_DoWn wrote: Fiora release pushed back a day. I already got my 6.3k all saved up... This is gunna be the 3rd champ that I'm gunna get straight out of release. (riven, ziggs, and now fiora), just cause I'm hyped like crazy!
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On February 28 2012 13:46 UniversalSnip wrote: someone explain xin ban please
I'm pretty sure those weren't the actual bans. They had to remake after the initial draft for some reason(wasnt paying that close attention) and those were just random bans they put in.
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On February 28 2012 13:46 UniversalSnip wrote: someone explain xin ban please Looks to me like they just banned the last 6 champs alphabetically
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I know this is probably silly but GD is for people throwing out ideas and letting people call them dumb right? :D
Anyways this is just me thinking about team comps and I have heard that things like 4 protect 1 carry were used once upon a time. Why has this fallen off? If a team was just crazy cc heavy and spaced their cc correctly wouldn't it still be good? If you force the other team into running a lot of cleanse/buying qss then you forced them to use up a slot that could otherwise be spent on something else. So what about a team comp that had 3 of the CC bots on it like Leona/Naut/Galio/Sej/Mumu/etc and then having like cass mid. Thats a fuck ton of cc a team has to deal with and not everyone of the cc bots have to build super tanky and can be hybrids to do a bit more dmg. Or would qss and people running cleanse be that easy to counter this? I know people talk about being spread out in fights when vs these comps but can you really be THAT spread out in many portions of the map? Also if you have that many aoe disables then you could immobilize multiple people multiple times or have people take different "portions" of the team or just use it to catch people all the time.
I'm not sure QSS would be enough alone even if everyone on the opposite team has it it only removes effects and not future ones. Cleanse does but only for 3 seconds and forcing multiple opponents to take it seems like an advantage for you.
Thoughts?
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On February 28 2012 13:58 Slaughter wrote: I know this is probably silly but GD is for people throwing out ideas and letting people call them dumb right? :D
Anyways this is just me thinking about team comps and I have heard that things like 4 protect 1 carry were used once upon a time. Why has this fallen off? If a team was just crazy cc heavy and spaced their cc correctly wouldn't it still be good? If you force the other team into running a lot of cleanse/buying qss then you forced them to use up a slot that could otherwise be spent on something else. So what about a team comp that had 3 of the CC bots on it like Leona/Naut/Galio/Sej/Mumu/etc and then having like cass mid. Thats a fuck ton of cc a team has to deal with and not everyone of the cc bots have to build super tanky and can be hybrids to do a bit more dmg. Or would qss and people running cleanse be that easy to counter this? I know people talk about being spread out in fights when vs these comps but can you really be THAT spread out in many portions of the map? Also if you have that many aoe disables then you could immobilize multiple people multiple times or have people take different "portions" of the team or just use it to catch people all the time.
I'm not sure QSS would be enough alone even if everyone on the opposite team has it it only removes effects and not future ones. Cleanse does but only for 3 seconds and forcing multiple opponents to take it seems like an advantage for you.
Thoughts? It would work against CLG. Because Doublelift will get QSS AND Cleanse, then CLG spend entire game shitting on doublelift, rather than actually strategizing on how to beat opponent. Eventually leading to their loss.
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On February 28 2012 13:02 Hidden_MotiveS wrote: Jungle sion is pretty homo with his ganks. Doesn't feel like he ever does much late game though :/
You know, I'm curious if there is a somewhat smooth transition from AP to AD on Sion. Like grabbing 2 Doran's Rings and Sheen for AP shenanigans, then going a more AD centric build (possibly building Sheen into Triforce?) while using your AP strength to cover your farm. In other words, rather than using your dominance/pushing to roam mid-game, you use your dominance to farm Trolololol Mode later down the line.
(In general, not just in the jungle)
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I'm pretty sure M5 did something similar like that at Kiev. They had a comp built around peeling for Kog'Maw. I don't think it worked though.
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Most of those champs have pretty difficult laning phases or low income jungles... Hard to tank anything when you just get ran over in lane
It's not impossible but 2 bruisers 2 carries 1 support is more practical
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if you're running 4protect1 comps, can't the enemy team just spec for one side of the defensive stuff in terms of resists and be pretty strong against you in midgame teamfights? like in the above example, can't the other team just spam MR on everyone and do well in the midgame fights.
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