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Average gold/plat player needs some pointers
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Raistlin1986
United States38 Posts
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Uldridge
Belgium4243 Posts
-If you're an initiator/disruptor, try to find the right time and place to initiate, look for how your team is positioned and if they seem to be ready for the engage. Always try to zone the adc and/or the midlaner so the rest of your team can clean up faster than they can (also depends on how fed you are ofcourse, if you can't tank for long I'd definitely try to engage and fall back into peeling and helping your tam kite) -If you're peel (tank/much cc), keep an eye on your mid and adc, they're the one's who NEED to stay alive in the fights. And do everything in your power to kite the fight. -Support; ward, ALOT, deep wards so you can act on their jungler, always do everything to keep your adc, or the most fed person, alive, even if it means giving up your own life. Try to figure out when and where they warded (try to keep the tribush unwarded if you're blue side), as for purple, put your wards either at dragon AND tribush or just one single ward at the beginning of the river, just outside the bush so you still have decent vision of river and you can still see when someone approaches from tri decently early do disengage. -As a mid I'd suggest to look for any skills used unecessary so you can win trades, mispositioning, where he warded, to farm up a storm, to roam after you pushed lanes, to fake recalls so you can roam, ward NOT the sidebushes, but rather the deathbush/near the wraithcamp, the old banabrush, these will give away much more information for you. If you DO get caught, don't run (or try to run as long as possible), but try to get off all your burst before you die so that if someone is near you (or in a teamfight orcourse) they might be able to clean up. -Junglers should just look at the lanes in between camps or whenever they're not killing stuff. You need to analyze the behaviour of the laners in order to know if you'll be able to gank. Look if they're pushing, try to predict when you'll be able to countergank. Learning to countergank isn't always as easy, and you do need some experience on it, but it'll go smoother with time going by. Also, if you see the jungler ganking somewhere, and you don't see an immediate opening to gank somewhere else, just try to counterjungle, take dragon (if he's top), pressure a lane so you can roam with that lane to maybe pulla gank off in another lane. Also, disregard the chat at all times. Except when they're all really cool people. PS Shit just realize, you asked for pro tips. Well, hope it helps a bit anyway, cheers. | ||
ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
1) You need to work on last hitting really badly. You miss a ton of creeps when under no duress from other laners. 2) You're using Q and E in bad spots and it's leaving you oom and full hp. Mana conservation is huge on all ADCs, but especially Caitlyn because she needs mana for E escapes. 3) Your zoning and harass need a lot of work. Watch pro games and see how they do it, you play too passively against a Teemo. Caitlyn is a champ that needs to win lane through harass and not all-ins. 4) Basic teamfight mechanics are pretty weak, need to work on them. Coordination with your support is really important. 5) Work on dodging skillshots and not eating shrooms you saw placed. 6) You blow flash and heal too liberally because you don't have a good idea of the exact amount of damage champs do. 7) Your runepage probably needs work, I think you should be running 2-3 aspd quints on Caitlyn for kite/headshot procs. 8) You really gotta work on getting more auto attacks in during teamfights, your positioning is really bad and you're missing tons of free damage. 9) Keep your actives/potions/wards on the same buttons and get used to pressing them. Right now you're just letting them sit wherever they land. 10) Always save for BF Sword instead of buying Cloak when aiming for IE. 11) Your map awareness could use work, I saw you watch a teamfight while standing still. Even if you can't do anything about the fight you should still be doing other things while watching it, even if it's just moving to the next spot you have to be at or bluepilling. 12) Chasing teemo instead of taking free dragon is bad. Chasing teemo in general is bad. This also applies to Nidalee and Singed. A good motto to live by is "don't chase, just win." I would watch more but I'm straight up passing out on my keyboard lol | ||
nobodywonder
United States848 Posts
above post has a lot of good things of to improve. from my own experience climbing out of silver as adc. 1. don't chase so much, instead get the objectives (dragon, turrets). 2. after killing the other adc, try to push the wave to the turret to deny cs and experience. obviously care for roam though and leave if there is danger. 3. really work on cs'ing. Cs'ing is the most fundamental skill to have as an adc. 4. item timing. you really want to only back on specific reasons. for example, sometimes you need to save for that bf sword, but you're a bit chunked. well in that case, i might play safe and focus on cs and not dying. | ||
Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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eagle
United States693 Posts
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nobodywonder
United States848 Posts
On August 20 2014 03:05 Sufficiency wrote: How can you claim to be plat while in silver 1? Sounds to me your problem is not with gameplay. don't think he's claiming that exactly. he claims he's being matched with plats and golds edit: nevermind the thread title...lol | ||
LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
My issue is probably tunnelvision while stressed, i recently tried really hard to improve it and it got a bit better, but i am still unable to really see all that is going on in a fight at once. when i watch streams, the commentators seem to notice every little thing, who used exhaust, who used what skill at what time to do X to Y. | ||
Uldridge
Belgium4243 Posts
On August 20 2014 03:48 LaNague wrote: how would one go about improving teamfighting? My issue is probably tunnelvision while stressed, i recently tried really hard to improve it and it got a bit better, but i am still unable to really see all that is going on in a fight at once. when i watch streams, the commentators seem to notice every little thing, who used exhaust, who used what skill at what time to do X to Y. It actually depends very much on what your role is and how much you're getting focussed, I mean, I have had games where I was never focussed as an adc lol and could just shoot freely the entire teamfight through. I think as an adc you can tunnel a bit, but you still have to be weary for the big cc/burst. But the most important part is seeing who is initiating on you and trying to keep a safe distance/duel so that tank/initiator is out of the way so you can move on to the rest of you team to clean up. Also, it happens sometimes where adc's just straightup face eachother in a teamfight, and then you can only engage if you're superior in the fight ofcourse (if you're a superior duelist or just fed as fuck). As support and tank I've always had much more ease to not tunnel simply because you don't do damage and you stay alive alot longer so you can actually have a good oversight on how to peel and how to shut down the other team. Maybe you should play hypertanks for a bit. In the end, tunneling happens on every level though, even the pro's do it so, so much. So I'd just not worry too much about it, try to keep your head fresh, and position your self as best you can. | ||
GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On August 20 2014 03:48 LaNague wrote: how would one go about improving teamfighting? My issue is probably tunnelvision while stressed, i recently tried really hard to improve it and it got a bit better, but i am still unable to really see all that is going on in a fight at once. when i watch streams, the commentators seem to notice every little thing, who used exhaust, who used what skill at what time to do X to Y. Other than the obvious answer (experience), ARAM's help by drilling it over and over again. The other major thing that helps is having a clear idea of your purpose. Go into the fight knowing what you're going to do, and if you have that picture in your mind you start to see the fight more clearly. | ||
Raistlin1986
United States38 Posts
twitch.tv/raistlin1986 chat window up come talk. | ||
Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
Oh wow. Silver playing against plat/high gold. Let's check his lolkinglolking: Uh OK that's odd.... he seems to be only playing against other silver players! Well let's check out his stream and see how well he plays... Need I say more? | ||
Scorcher2k
United States802 Posts
*edit* Watched for a bit. 1. You need to work on stutter stepping. 2. You like never used traps on cait. You need to be using traps far more. 3. Don't waste all your mana trying to poke with Q when you have a 5v5 dance in mid. Just save your mana for the fight and use Q to clear minions if they are actually doing damage to your tower. 4. Stay with your team. Your team started fighting in mid twice while you were in jungle. GL with games. | ||
nimbim
Germany976 Posts
The game begins at ~10min. What I noticed: -missed a lot of cs unneccessarily -20:45 I see that Yi wants to gank, but I keep pushing the wave. However, I felt that it would be obvious to Annie whats happening if I suddenly played differently. Bad call I guess? -23:30 I tunnel vision Annie and don't realize that 1. Amumu is moving toward me and 2. my ult is still on CD -25:50 I stay with 40% health while ignoring ss ping bot, vision on the map (should clearly see Sivir moving toward me) and the fact that only 1 side of mid lane is properly warded -28:40 omg positioning + skill shot panic fail -29:30 should probably go defend top instead of the 5 health mid tower -30:30 wasting ignite+R because I misjudged the situation -33:40 bad control ftw -35:50 I should have realized Riven would take blue now, but it would have been a 1v1 without my ult anyway, so I don't know if I should try to stop her -41:00 that's not the time to take blue | ||
killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
Given that he hasn't actually responded to any of the posts/advice (and 8 posts..), this feels kind of like more of a random stream advertisement then anything else. If he is actually reading it then great, but then he could at least acknowledge it... Given people actually interested in help are posting here, maybe a new general thread where people can post gameplay and get advice would be a good idea though? | ||
Uldridge
Belgium4243 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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Raistlin1986
United States38 Posts
big plays avg player | ||
NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
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