[Champion] Katarina - Page 2
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WaveofShadow
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GranDim
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WaveofShadow
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GranDim
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Drathmar
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Aukai
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GranDim
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I have been considering dropping the Rylai's has the passive might be overkill with GB slow and Exhaust. But then Kat also need some hp or death becomes another form of crowd control that stop Death Lotus. | ||
Raelcun
United States3747 Posts
Playstyle Kat is technically a melee champion but really shouldn't be played that way she was excellent poking ability and can wear down the other team very slowly to the point where if they dont run away she can blast them. This means harass with Q, maybe E if you know their skills are on cooldown but usually E to lasthit in lane when their main abilities are on cooldown and it's safe. As laning phase continues start saving E for escapes and be aware of your surroundings. Kat is a rather safe champion in that E is a great escape ability especially if you W first. If you're doing a good job of harassing and you force them to redpot immediately try and get a W+Q combo off to half the healing on their potion sometimes this will cause people to overreact and do something stupid. Lategame you should be poking with Q on minions to bounce onto the other team as much as possible this takes a lot of practice to figure out how the bounce AI works. Q AI This is complicated but just draw a picture it's the easiest way. It appears to be random but it really isn't. Basically from what I can deduce the blade will draw a circle around your target and hit the maximum number of targets it can without expanding the circle. So throw your dagger when the champion is near a minion or when the minions are split into two lines and they're closer to one line than the other line is. It does not prioritize on champions and it selects the targets when you THROW Q it does not change in realtime so this can lead to what look like ridiculous bounces. Skill Order R>Q>E>W Start off by going Q first just because low level Kat doesnt have much of a lane presence until you get Q higher. Use this to last hit whenever possible melee some creeps if you can but play safe the first level or 2 you'll catch up. Go for E next as said above use it to last hit when it is safe keep in mind that you'll always land behind the creep if another creep is behind that you'll be behind that one. Pick up another level of Q at 3, W at 4 and another Q at 5. Around now you should be pushing the enemy back in lane if you're doing a good job judging which creeps to throw your dagger at. Getting the hang of your dagger just takes practice and is the key to having a good laning phase. Runes I'm running flat MPen Reds Armor Yellows and CDR Blues, Blues you can swap out for MRes because of her passive if you want but I like being able to throw the Dagger a big faster in the early game. Quints can be Flat HP or movespeed both are helpful. Masteries Okay bear with me here this is the strange part: I'm running 9/21/0 masteries My reasoning here is that the Support tree really doesn't help out Kat a whole lot as the useful stuff is pretty deep and instead of dropping deeper into offensive for just 3 attack damage you can get down to 3/3 Ardor for 4% extra AP AND attack damage at levle 18. Plus all the other stuff in offensive is mostly about melee hits which you don't really use as Katarina mostly using your abilities and her passive to recharge them so that you're spamming a lot. Items I've tried Dorans Blade and Dorans Shield but I'm trending towards starting with Shield and a redpot both are workable but I like the survivability the Shield + your runes + masteries means it's hard to force you out of lane especially at level 1/2 when you're rather weak. Sorc shoes are tempting but your ult tends to make the other team CC the shit out of you so I usually go for Merc treads as it can help you get out alive. So go Dorans Shield + Redpot First Back should pick up boots and Hextech Revolver, if you're owning in lane pick up a pickaxe too, If you dont have enough for a pickaxe a Mantle for merc treads can be useful. Next back Finish gunblade if you can, if not merc treads. Once gunblade is done grab a giant's belt for getting started on Rylais blasting wand too if you can manage it. Once your Rylai is done BF swords are really good amounts of AD for their cost really gold effective. I don't like Rageblade too much because of the fact that Kat pokes a lot and waits on the timer of Q so it falls off a ton and you really shouldn't be meleeing a lot with Kat. Once you have the Gunblade finished you get a HUGE boost in power 60 AD, 75 AP plus lifesteal and spell vamp. You'll have a huge amount of survivability your Q E R will all hit very hard and you can shoot them with the gunblade to nuke/slow a key target. Once you have this item you really should be owning up their other team very hard and putting the fear of Katarina into their heart. Use this point in the game to snowball out of control and not give them control back. Lategame you'll probably have to get a few defensive items but those are situational the other team will realize you're blowing them up and try and focus you. edit: a note about gunblade with the massive boost to AD/AP from gunblade your Q can easily surpass 400 damage per bounce and her ult can get near 200 damage per dagger. Gunblade is an amazing item I find better than rageblade because you don't have to charge it up and the active is incredible. | ||
goldenkrnboi
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Navi
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gtrsrs
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rredtooth
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
On January 03 2011 08:19 redtooth wrote: WHY DOES SHE SUCK SO MUCH NOW. AD was nerfed, ult base damage was nerfed in exchange for hybridization BB was nerfed but given an AP ratio | ||
dignity
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Orpheos
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Papvin
Denmark610 Posts
On December 15 2010 11:05 GranDim wrote: /ignore ally is such a beautiful and effective thing Amen brother! I've started to once I see anyone who's acting stupid, immidiately /ignore ally. I just cba anymore. | ||
Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On January 03 2011 08:19 redtooth wrote: WHY DOES SHE SUCK SO MUCH NOW. because they're trying to balance a hero with no CC away from the early game and towards the late game, lawl. | ||
Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
On January 12 2011 05:53 Mogwai wrote: because they're trying to balance a hero with no CC away from the early game and towards the late game, lawl. So true. Add to that the fact that she has HSS-like something as an ulti and there's no way Riot will balance it the way they want. | ||
0123456789
United States3216 Posts
She's a noob raper. Not that great vs non retards. I go Q, E, E, W, R>E>Q>W Items, I go either Dorans Shield, boots, cloth armor x pots, or regen bead x pots depending on who I'm up against. Then I go rylais, Deathcap, and tankier ap items like abyssal or hourglass, into revolver, into void staff. Summoners:Ignite, Ghost Kat is all about raping noobs in the laning phase. Every1 underestimates her damage and try to trade hits with her or just flat out get raped. Under lvl 5, I use weq combo if opponent overextends or makes mistakes. I usually start the standard harass from 5 on if they're not dumb. Just WEQ and back to not draw creep aggro and back off after your combo is on cd. Rinse and repeat, and ignite to kill. Add r to the combo after lvl 6. ult has something like slightly over 40 sec cd, so you can spam it for dmg against tankier champs. Without some sort of nice heavy farm early, you're useless. Kat all about early domination. You start dealing heavy dmg around early - mid game. Always use your ult after people use their stuns, and to as many people as possible. Or you just weq combo back up, rinse and repeat untill you can get ult off. Kat starts scaling down towards late game because fights start becoming 5v5 and people get smarter and save their CC. Kat is like a burst caster, and without her ult she becomes useless so get it off smartly for full duration. Not full duration mitigates dmg a lot. | ||
BlackHat
United States264 Posts
On February 20 2011 05:54 0123456789 wrote: So I picked up Kat. No1 posted here in over a month. She's a noob raper. Not that great vs non retards. I go Q, E, E, W, R>E>Q>W Items, I go either Dorans Shield, boots, cloth armor x pots, or regen bead x pots depending on who I'm up against. Then I go rylais, Deathcap, and tankier ap items like abyssal or hourglass, into revolver, into void staff. Summoners:Ignite, Ghost Kat is all about raping noobs in the laning phase. Every1 underestimates her damage and try to trade hits with her or just flat out get raped. Under lvl 5, I use weq combo if opponent overextends or makes mistakes. I usually start the standard harass from 5 on if they're not dumb. Just WEQ and back to not draw creep aggro and back off after your combo is on cd. Rinse and repeat, and ignite to kill. Add r to the combo after lvl 6. ult has something like slightly over 40 sec cd, so you can spam it for dmg against tankier champs. Without some sort of nice heavy farm early, you're useless. Kat all about early domination. You start dealing heavy dmg around early - mid game. Always use your ult after people use their stuns, and to as many people as possible. Or you just weq combo back up, rinse and repeat untill you can get ult off. Kat starts scaling down towards late game because fights start becoming 5v5 and people get smarter and save their CC. Kat is like a burst caster, and without her ult she becomes useless so get it off smartly for full duration. Not full duration mitigates dmg a lot. Edit: Reading comprehension fail... That said, what runes and masteries are you going with? | ||
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