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So basically Krepo is saying that Altec is a weird awkward nerd who plays video games all day with limited social skills. Whats new? The generic video gamer/progamer isn't your most outgoing type of person, chances are they go to school & talk to no one and go straight home after to play games (young age doesn't help either). What he said about Altec isn't all surprising to be honest, he seemed like the generic shy/awkward gamer kid who don't have much social skills (You think i'm stereotyping, but there's a lot of those around here).
Obviously it's hard to make a judgement off of one side of the story, but a "life coach" as stupid as it sounds is a valid position and is needed among teams with young talented players.
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Curse has a legit ADC Roccat has a new ADC (I'll make sure to get some inside info on who it is at PGA :^) ) and Overpow top SK is probably Forgiven and WDF LGD Kakao/Rookie is likely Nien is back to ADC Rekkles wants to leave Fnatic Dexter and Amazing are free from shitty toxic teams :^)
Christmas came pretty early this year.
Also don't want to spoil Redox's work but Paravine has a pretty good roster sheet already :p http://www.paravine.com/2014/10/2015-pre-seasons-roster-swaps/ (not to mention the post by Kitzz posted earlier)
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Honestly since roccat/shc are actually practicing with mithy/nukeduck should be pretty much confirmed they are gonna get unbanned.Just not official yet.
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On October 24 2014 06:35 Zizoz wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 03:21 Numy wrote:I guess since I've only ever dealt with amateur teams I've never really experienced the type of blatant lack of social abilities that krepo is talking about. In uni when we made a dota team we'd all go lan and drink together, there were problems eventually but knew how to talk about it like normal people. Feels a lot of these pro players are trying to jump into life far too quickly thus leaving behind a lot of the natural learning one undergoes. That's why I think Krepo grilled gtrsrs there a bit. These guys are young with little to no life experience, the adults have to be the ones to take charge and give them the tools to grow as not only players but human beings. The latter is what gets so neglected for most of these players. On October 24 2014 03:21 nafta wrote:On October 24 2014 03:18 AsnSensation wrote: That was actually a well damn post from Krepo. I knew that lcs na/eu scrim+team environment was mostly bad but never imagined it to be that shitty.
Damnit Guitar! It is very surprising how bad a lot of players are at talking like normal people lol.I get it they are kinda young but still... This may be off base but do American schools have a lot of group activities? Where I went to school we basically had 3-4 sports teams per age group per sport where almost everyone at school participates. Those that aren't into physical activity do other non physical sports. I get the feeling a lot of these players have never actually had to work as part of a group before. It's an important enough skill that employers here even ask about if you were on sports teams. Then throughout Uni(At least Engineering) we had a ton of forced group work projects which further made you deal with people. I'd have thought being part of pro and amateur teams gives you a similar experience but I guess it isn't quite the same. Team sports are certainly not mandatory for students in the US. I don't know what percentage of people play them. I personally always thought it was just the most athletic kids, though. The only time I felt pressure to play sports was intramurals (i.e. within-school competition) when I was at a boarding school for a year. Group work is definitely a thing although I have no idea what constitutes "tons".
I would point out that lack of participation in team sports (IMO) is what drives a lot of what I perceive and internet overreaction and immaturity to legitimate criticism. Particularly if it comes from a stranger (relatively) or is done in an aggressive or hostile way.
I.E. Many (I'd say a majority, but its hard to define, probably a majority of those who took it seriously) people who I know on my HS sports teams would have been able to tank the allegedly overwhelming criticism that Gleeb/Nien/etc have gotten over the years.
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On October 24 2014 07:46 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 06:35 Zizoz wrote:On October 24 2014 03:21 Numy wrote:I guess since I've only ever dealt with amateur teams I've never really experienced the type of blatant lack of social abilities that krepo is talking about. In uni when we made a dota team we'd all go lan and drink together, there were problems eventually but knew how to talk about it like normal people. Feels a lot of these pro players are trying to jump into life far too quickly thus leaving behind a lot of the natural learning one undergoes. That's why I think Krepo grilled gtrsrs there a bit. These guys are young with little to no life experience, the adults have to be the ones to take charge and give them the tools to grow as not only players but human beings. The latter is what gets so neglected for most of these players. On October 24 2014 03:21 nafta wrote:On October 24 2014 03:18 AsnSensation wrote: That was actually a well damn post from Krepo. I knew that lcs na/eu scrim+team environment was mostly bad but never imagined it to be that shitty.
Damnit Guitar! It is very surprising how bad a lot of players are at talking like normal people lol.I get it they are kinda young but still... This may be off base but do American schools have a lot of group activities? Where I went to school we basically had 3-4 sports teams per age group per sport where almost everyone at school participates. Those that aren't into physical activity do other non physical sports. I get the feeling a lot of these players have never actually had to work as part of a group before. It's an important enough skill that employers here even ask about if you were on sports teams. Then throughout Uni(At least Engineering) we had a ton of forced group work projects which further made you deal with people. I'd have thought being part of pro and amateur teams gives you a similar experience but I guess it isn't quite the same. Team sports are certainly not mandatory for students in the US. I don't know what percentage of people play them. I personally always thought it was just the most athletic kids, though. The only time I felt pressure to play sports was intramurals (i.e. within-school competition) when I was at a boarding school for a year. Group work is definitely a thing although I have no idea what constitutes "tons". I would point out that lack of participation in team sports (IMO) is what drives a lot of what I perceive and internet overreaction and immaturity to legitimate criticism. Particularly if it comes from a stranger (relatively) or is done in an aggressive or hostile way. I.E. Many (I'd say a majority, but its hard to define, probably a majority of those who took it seriously) people who I know on my HS sports teams would have been able to tank the allegedly overwhelming criticism that Gleeb/Nien/etc have gotten over the years.
I'm pretty sure it's not the legit criticism they're worried about, it's the "go kill urself fkin noob" that's bothering them.
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RIP Krepo the first victim of the region lock, if you don't qualify as a domestic player and aren't top 3 talent on your team I don't see how a team can afford to keep you on roster
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On October 24 2014 07:55 Slusher wrote: RIP Krepo the first victim of the region lock, if you don't qualify as a domestic player and aren't top 3 talent on your team I don't see how a team can afford to keep you on roster
Real salt is that there are almost no players in the West who're good in clutch and Krepo wasn't in clutch situations for a year and now he's either on random Dignitas or nowhere.
Also, what are speculations on EG support? Are they going to get random Ken/matlife or what.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
I think ExecutionerKen is going to be a frontrunner, they may wait until expansion finishes to scope out potential pick ups. Like bunny/sheep/patoy/lohpally are decent options at least. They could import a support, mafa's available right?
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On October 24 2014 08:10 Fusilero wrote: I think ExecutionerKen is going to be a frontrunner, they may wait until expansion finishes to scope out potential pick ups. Like bunny/sheep/patoy/lohpally are decent options at least. They could import a support, mafa's available right?
Mafa is going to play for Chinese Telecom according to rumours, especially if KaKAO and Rookie are trolling with LGD moves. Ye, Sheep is logical choice after Santorin chokes in Expansions.
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On October 24 2014 08:10 Fusilero wrote: I think ExecutionerKen is going to be a frontrunner, they may wait until expansion finishes to scope out potential pick ups. Like bunny/sheep/patoy/lohpally are decent options at least. They could import a support, mafa's available right?
Eh, I mean LoLPro tried out Ken and they went with roleswap Keith McBrief over him. Probably better to get Bunny or Sheep if one of them doesn't make it or get Gleeb and reunite the C9T bot lane.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
XD would be fun since falcons has collapsed and I doubt that he'll come on over chei unless they replace cptjack with pilot and want the bot lane synergy but idk if he wants to come to the west like the rest of falcons FORGIVEN SUPPORT TO EG!?
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On October 24 2014 08:16 ExceliosBeyond wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 08:10 Fusilero wrote: I think ExecutionerKen is going to be a frontrunner, they may wait until expansion finishes to scope out potential pick ups. Like bunny/sheep/patoy/lohpally are decent options at least. They could import a support, mafa's available right? Eh, I mean LoLPro tried out Ken and they went with roleswap Keith McBrief over him. Probably better to get Bunny or Sheep if one of them doesn't make it or get Gleeb and reunite the C9T bot lane. Gleeb is on Team Fusion. They'd have to wait until after expansion if he doesn't make it into LCS.
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On October 24 2014 07:55 Slusher wrote: RIP Krepo the first victim of the region lock, if you don't qualify as a domestic player and aren't top 3 talent on your team I don't see how a team can afford to keep you on roster I honestly think he decided to leave on his own. I think he would tell us if it was otherwise. Or did he hint at something like that and I overlooked it? Also he is exempt so any team can pick him up without problems.
But it is true this gives EG the opportunity to pick up a non-exempt non-resident now. So they could pick up a Korean to replace Innox for example. Maybe he is the least happy about Krepo leaving. :D
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On October 24 2014 07:49 O-ops wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 07:46 cLutZ wrote:On October 24 2014 06:35 Zizoz wrote:On October 24 2014 03:21 Numy wrote:I guess since I've only ever dealt with amateur teams I've never really experienced the type of blatant lack of social abilities that krepo is talking about. In uni when we made a dota team we'd all go lan and drink together, there were problems eventually but knew how to talk about it like normal people. Feels a lot of these pro players are trying to jump into life far too quickly thus leaving behind a lot of the natural learning one undergoes. That's why I think Krepo grilled gtrsrs there a bit. These guys are young with little to no life experience, the adults have to be the ones to take charge and give them the tools to grow as not only players but human beings. The latter is what gets so neglected for most of these players. On October 24 2014 03:21 nafta wrote:On October 24 2014 03:18 AsnSensation wrote: That was actually a well damn post from Krepo. I knew that lcs na/eu scrim+team environment was mostly bad but never imagined it to be that shitty.
Damnit Guitar! It is very surprising how bad a lot of players are at talking like normal people lol.I get it they are kinda young but still... This may be off base but do American schools have a lot of group activities? Where I went to school we basically had 3-4 sports teams per age group per sport where almost everyone at school participates. Those that aren't into physical activity do other non physical sports. I get the feeling a lot of these players have never actually had to work as part of a group before. It's an important enough skill that employers here even ask about if you were on sports teams. Then throughout Uni(At least Engineering) we had a ton of forced group work projects which further made you deal with people. I'd have thought being part of pro and amateur teams gives you a similar experience but I guess it isn't quite the same. Team sports are certainly not mandatory for students in the US. I don't know what percentage of people play them. I personally always thought it was just the most athletic kids, though. The only time I felt pressure to play sports was intramurals (i.e. within-school competition) when I was at a boarding school for a year. Group work is definitely a thing although I have no idea what constitutes "tons". I would point out that lack of participation in team sports (IMO) is what drives a lot of what I perceive and internet overreaction and immaturity to legitimate criticism. Particularly if it comes from a stranger (relatively) or is done in an aggressive or hostile way. I.E. Many (I'd say a majority, but its hard to define, probably a majority of those who took it seriously) people who I know on my HS sports teams would have been able to tank the allegedly overwhelming criticism that Gleeb/Nien/etc have gotten over the years. I'm pretty sure it's not the legit criticism they're worried about, it's the "go kill urself fkin noob" that's bothering them.
Seen much worse from fans. I had a local reporter (allegedly a professional) ask me, a Freshman at the time, why I wasn't making my teammates better (in wrestling, since I was like 9-3 and the team had lost all our duals).
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My point isn't that the criticism is all legitimate, it is that normally people in sports develop an ability to cope with it when they are surrounded by friends/family in High School (even before).
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On October 24 2014 08:48 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 07:49 O-ops wrote:On October 24 2014 07:46 cLutZ wrote:On October 24 2014 06:35 Zizoz wrote:On October 24 2014 03:21 Numy wrote:I guess since I've only ever dealt with amateur teams I've never really experienced the type of blatant lack of social abilities that krepo is talking about. In uni when we made a dota team we'd all go lan and drink together, there were problems eventually but knew how to talk about it like normal people. Feels a lot of these pro players are trying to jump into life far too quickly thus leaving behind a lot of the natural learning one undergoes. That's why I think Krepo grilled gtrsrs there a bit. These guys are young with little to no life experience, the adults have to be the ones to take charge and give them the tools to grow as not only players but human beings. The latter is what gets so neglected for most of these players. On October 24 2014 03:21 nafta wrote:On October 24 2014 03:18 AsnSensation wrote: That was actually a well damn post from Krepo. I knew that lcs na/eu scrim+team environment was mostly bad but never imagined it to be that shitty.
Damnit Guitar! It is very surprising how bad a lot of players are at talking like normal people lol.I get it they are kinda young but still... This may be off base but do American schools have a lot of group activities? Where I went to school we basically had 3-4 sports teams per age group per sport where almost everyone at school participates. Those that aren't into physical activity do other non physical sports. I get the feeling a lot of these players have never actually had to work as part of a group before. It's an important enough skill that employers here even ask about if you were on sports teams. Then throughout Uni(At least Engineering) we had a ton of forced group work projects which further made you deal with people. I'd have thought being part of pro and amateur teams gives you a similar experience but I guess it isn't quite the same. Team sports are certainly not mandatory for students in the US. I don't know what percentage of people play them. I personally always thought it was just the most athletic kids, though. The only time I felt pressure to play sports was intramurals (i.e. within-school competition) when I was at a boarding school for a year. Group work is definitely a thing although I have no idea what constitutes "tons". I would point out that lack of participation in team sports (IMO) is what drives a lot of what I perceive and internet overreaction and immaturity to legitimate criticism. Particularly if it comes from a stranger (relatively) or is done in an aggressive or hostile way. I.E. Many (I'd say a majority, but its hard to define, probably a majority of those who took it seriously) people who I know on my HS sports teams would have been able to tank the allegedly overwhelming criticism that Gleeb/Nien/etc have gotten over the years. I'm pretty sure it's not the legit criticism they're worried about, it's the "go kill urself fkin noob" that's bothering them. Seen much worse from fans. I had a local reporter (allegedly a professional) ask me, a Freshman at the time, why I wasn't making my teammates better (in wrestling, since I was like 9-3 and the team had lost all our duals). Edit: My point isn't that the criticism is all legitimate, it is that normally people in sports develop an ability to cope with it when they are surrounded by friends/family in High School (even before). You should have answered "How am I gonna make my teammates better by practicing?"
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On October 24 2014 08:57 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 08:48 cLutZ wrote:On October 24 2014 07:49 O-ops wrote:On October 24 2014 07:46 cLutZ wrote:On October 24 2014 06:35 Zizoz wrote:On October 24 2014 03:21 Numy wrote:I guess since I've only ever dealt with amateur teams I've never really experienced the type of blatant lack of social abilities that krepo is talking about. In uni when we made a dota team we'd all go lan and drink together, there were problems eventually but knew how to talk about it like normal people. Feels a lot of these pro players are trying to jump into life far too quickly thus leaving behind a lot of the natural learning one undergoes. That's why I think Krepo grilled gtrsrs there a bit. These guys are young with little to no life experience, the adults have to be the ones to take charge and give them the tools to grow as not only players but human beings. The latter is what gets so neglected for most of these players. On October 24 2014 03:21 nafta wrote:On October 24 2014 03:18 AsnSensation wrote: That was actually a well damn post from Krepo. I knew that lcs na/eu scrim+team environment was mostly bad but never imagined it to be that shitty.
Damnit Guitar! It is very surprising how bad a lot of players are at talking like normal people lol.I get it they are kinda young but still... This may be off base but do American schools have a lot of group activities? Where I went to school we basically had 3-4 sports teams per age group per sport where almost everyone at school participates. Those that aren't into physical activity do other non physical sports. I get the feeling a lot of these players have never actually had to work as part of a group before. It's an important enough skill that employers here even ask about if you were on sports teams. Then throughout Uni(At least Engineering) we had a ton of forced group work projects which further made you deal with people. I'd have thought being part of pro and amateur teams gives you a similar experience but I guess it isn't quite the same. Team sports are certainly not mandatory for students in the US. I don't know what percentage of people play them. I personally always thought it was just the most athletic kids, though. The only time I felt pressure to play sports was intramurals (i.e. within-school competition) when I was at a boarding school for a year. Group work is definitely a thing although I have no idea what constitutes "tons". I would point out that lack of participation in team sports (IMO) is what drives a lot of what I perceive and internet overreaction and immaturity to legitimate criticism. Particularly if it comes from a stranger (relatively) or is done in an aggressive or hostile way. I.E. Many (I'd say a majority, but its hard to define, probably a majority of those who took it seriously) people who I know on my HS sports teams would have been able to tank the allegedly overwhelming criticism that Gleeb/Nien/etc have gotten over the years. I'm pretty sure it's not the legit criticism they're worried about, it's the "go kill urself fkin noob" that's bothering them. Seen much worse from fans. I had a local reporter (allegedly a professional) ask me, a Freshman at the time, why I wasn't making my teammates better (in wrestling, since I was like 9-3 and the team had lost all our duals). Edit: My point isn't that the criticism is all legitimate, it is that normally people in sports develop an ability to cope with it when they are surrounded by friends/family in High School (even before). You should have answered "How am I gonna make my teammates better by practicing?"
I basically just sweated on the guy. He tried to interview me 15 seconds (it felt like) after the match ended. Then my coach got pissed and dragged him away (which Is what I was trying to say about how its important to first get the criticisms when you have a healthy amount of support).
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IEM San jose news: http://www.intelextrememasters.com/news/tickets-to-see-worlds-best-gamers-in-san-jose-to-go-on-sale-next-tuesday/
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+ Show Spoiler + Tickets to see world’s best gamers in San Jose to go on sale next Tuesday
23.10.2014 With Early Bird and Premium tickets to go on sale on Tuesday the 28th of October, will you be one of the first to book your seats to see the action at Intel Extreme Masters San Jose? On the 6th of December, all eyes will be on the SAP Center in San Jose as the latest instalment of Intel Extreme Masters action kicks off. With glory, a trophy and prize money all up for grabs, this will definitely be one to watch if you’re an esports fan.
League of Legends
On the Tuesday the 28th of October we will be announcing the names of two top LCS teams who have already been invited to take part in the Intel Extreme Masters San Jose proceedings, with voting to kick off for two additional LCS teams (one from the Europe and one from North America) via the Intel Extreme Masters website the day after (the 29th of October).
In addition to this, two South American teams, one Brazilian and one Latin American, will also be joining the action, with the qualifying matches to take place on October the 25th and 26th and November the 22nd respectively.
The stakes for all six teams are high as they are competing not only for honor and prize money but also the opportunity to travel to the Intel Extreme Masters World Championship, where they will face off against the top finishers of the European and Asian stops.
StarCraft II
Along with the cream of the League of Legends crop, Intel Extreme Masters San Jose will also see some of the world’s best StarCraft II players compete, with forGG, VortiX, Rain and herO all having already qualified for the event.
Tickets
On Tuesday the 28th of October, a limited number of discounted Early Bird tickets will released, with prices set to increase when full price tickets go on general sale a week later. Premium tickets will also be available from the 28th of October, so be sure to grab yours if you want a truly VIP experience at San Jose.
We hope to see you at San Jose!
In short: 2 LCS teams already invited, 2 more to be voted for. In addition 1 BR, 1 LAN, 2 South American teams will join via qualifiers.
I heard from both C9 and Alliance that they will start scrimming at beginning of November, so they are probably the 2 invited teams. The 2 voted teams will be TSM and Fnatic 99%.
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