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On October 26 2009 09:10 motbob wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2009 09:04 ploy wrote: Uh no thats not right. Order does not matter in this situation. Banzu is right - 50% of the matchups you can watch are mirrors, so it's to be expected that about 50% of the matchups that you see are mirrors. You're wrong. If a team sends out a zerg, it's a 33% chance the match will be mirror if the other team sends out a random player. Thus, mirror matches "should" occur 33% of the time.
Guess who's back.
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On October 27 2009 08:09 Ace wrote: and I find it funny Shikyo is so stupid to think I'd fake Dt, so we can lynch Judge who could be mafia so I could "trick the town". Yes, I'd kill 1 of only 4 people on my team for that. Brilliant Shikyo. Epic really. What? If you are a mafia judge obviously isn't a mafia as well. He'd be an innocent who you'd get the town to lynch in hopes of proving your sanity.
Seriously. I write like 30 pages and that's what you can come up with? And you dare to insult my intelligence? Scum.
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If you and both judge were mafia the plan would be to make him seem like an unappealing lynch because of the chance of being a dt and also to have an excuse for him to not be killed by mafia because of that helping with your sanity.
However, I thought that that plan was quite bad and I remember I wrote it to the big post but I think I supposedly deleted it. if I didn't though, ignore that part.
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what... "because of the chance of him being a medic*" also "if both you and judge* "
shouldn't post when I'm tired -.-
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-_- Why do I always overeastimate Ace? I guess it'll take me a few more games to get used to people not playing as they should. Ace, seriously? What on earth were you doing -_-. I definitely should have stayed up to change the vote after no swing was present at the vote's end, though. It just is unfortunate that the voting ends in the middle of the night. Don't assume people can think properly, don't assume people can think properly, don't assume people can think properly... My new mandra.
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On October 27 2009 18:28 motbob wrote: The whole rhyming thing is making this thread really hard to read TT
Wow Shikyo, you were so wrong it's ridiculous :\ thanks for accusing me of using my grandpa's death to help me in my mafia game. I won't bring this up again... let's put this shit behind us, I dunno if you have a problem with me for some reason but whatever.
Tomorrow we HAVE to lynch Chezinu. 100% we have to. I'm dead serious. He's acting exactly like last game, where he was my team's GF. I don't think he's GF (I doubt any mafia team would elect him such) but I am super super convinced that he's mafia.
Also, last game I pushed the idea that Foolishness was the town MVP pretty hard in the secret mafia forum. For this reason I am positive that one of the following is mafia: Chezinu, Pyrr, RoL. Foolishness has not done anything special enough in this game to merit a night kill and the only reason that he would be killed would be because of a good reputation from previous games. I'm convinced that only those 3 people would have the feeling that Foolishness is dangerous to mafia.
Also, I'm fairly sure SugiuraMidori is town simply on the merit of his first ordering of suspects. O_o I have nothing against you, but you were acting suspiciously in my eyes. I always look at the wrong places, though.
Also Foolishness has been the town MVP just about every game he's survived to the end, he's really good even though people like Ace call him bad. That's why it was unlikely he was protected. I also agree with you that he'd have to have been killed by someone intelligent and also by someone who knows how good of a player he can be.
Another thing to note is that I still think Ace definitely was making no sense and I highly doubt he was voted because of my pressing alone. I think that quite a few people thought he was acting suspiciously.
This is why, to me it is suspicious if someone was absolutely certain that Ace wasn't mafia, since the only people who could know that for sure would be the mafia. However, I might be thinking about this too deeply again, and someone simply didn't see what made no sense. -_-
Redtooth at the start used some half-arsed arguments against Tricode and then completely disappeared after the action started. Normally the "hey hes talking in this way faking anger" stuff are poor arguments by mafia as has been stated in the past. One of my main suspects.
Another one would be Scamp, who has been quiet for a long time for no obvious reason. He's been doing the same stuff he always does as mafia. However, can he be mafia again for like the 547982th time in a row? Why not, so I think he'd be a good suspect.
Vivi57 has been one of the most suspicious people with his Ace vote and his flawed reasoning. It'd make sense for him to be mafia along with the argument for him being certain about tricode's innocense so early on and then switching away at the last second. But things don't always make sense so maybe he just makes no sense and is a townie instead. Who knows?
Chezinu hasn't said anything important and only talked about whatever brown stuff he always talks about. Same kind of stuff that he did the last time he was mafia, but I don't know if he'd do this anyway.
Pyrrhuloxia I'm not sure about. Need to see more.
I guess I'll have to change my style of playing since assuming that people make sense and play well doesn't really seem to work out ever.
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So RoL is most likely innocent because of Judge's lynch vote for him. Also, GJ Dreamflower, although I think your hit in the last game was a lot cooler and more dramatic. Although that had to do with the game, too.
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On October 28 2009 11:46 Scamp wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2009 11:27 Shikyo wrote: So RoL is most likely innocent because of Judge's lynch vote for him. This isn't good logic at all. You need more reasoning that just that. Also, you're mafia. More news at 5:30. EBWOP: And Scamp is most likely mafia
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On October 28 2009 12:19 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: OMG. Why can no one follow a fucking plan. All we have as a town are a few isolated pockets of sanity like Dreamflower and myself. Then we have a bunch of cocksure loners and this game we must have five people fighting over village idiot sorry town crier is more politically correct perhaps. The vet claim plan is in action. Or what were you referring to?
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On October 28 2009 12:22 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Please, regale me with these brilliant reasons, o enlightened one. Umm... L roleclaimed Veteran.
Or what do you mean? No riddles please, it's way too late
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On October 28 2009 12:22 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Please, regale me with these brilliant reasons, o enlightened one. Oh that. Because he'd get killed the next night since the game is likely to have only one medic because 2 would be imbalanced especially with a vet in it.
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On October 28 2009 12:27 Vivi57 wrote:ruh roh
Cheating: Cheating includes (but is not limited to) the following and will get you banned from future games: 1. Posting after death. One polite goodbye post is acceptable but please do not post anything which could POSSIBLY affect the game. 2. Betraying your role and ruining the game for everyone by doing something like hand out your mafia's member list to the town. 3. Logging on to someone else's account / checking their PMs / looking over someone's shoulder to get their role. 4. Comparing role PM times to determine roles. 5. Posting screenshots of your inbox. This is not a photoshop competition. 6. Posting any PM you receive from a host.
Expecting hosts to take necessary actions.
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On October 28 2009 12:52 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Oh i thought the vet plan was to protect the vet with medics and pass info on and organize or whatever. It was to DT check the vet and in that way to keep the mafia from hitting him because they'd help the DTs figure their sanities. Also, they'd be wasting their precious KP killing a vet who highly likely would be protected, so the vet would most likely be safe even without medic prot.
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On October 28 2009 13:22 SugiuraMidori wrote: Not to spam.. but I guess I should update my list....
1. Dreamflower <-- I was right, sad though..
2. Foolishness
3. Ace
4. vx70GTOJudgexv <-- Well, I was wrong on one.. so maybe Ace knew what he was doing after all ;P 5. RebirthofLegend 6. Bloodyc0bbler
7. Incognito 8. Amber[Light] 9. Pyrrhuloxia 10. L <-- just claimed as Vet role 11. Tricode 12. Vivi57 <-- same as redtooth 13. Infundibulum 14. Sugiuramidori <-- not red (Shikyo and Chez know my role) 15. Scamp 16. Shikyo <--10% red
17. Caller 18. Motbob <-- mostly based on what others have pointed out as a probability 19. Redtooth <-- same as vivi 20. Heavonearth <-- not red 21. Chezinu Even though your list makes sense otherwise... Scamp, Redtooth, Vivi, Judge doesn't really... seem like a likely mafia team. Then again, I guess that doesn't really matter.
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On October 28 2009 18:42 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2009 18:40 SugiuraMidori wrote:On October 28 2009 18:35 motbob wrote:On October 28 2009 18:29 SugiuraMidori wrote: All right.. I really don't understand wtf you guys are doing now.. I give you two confirmed mafia and you run off and vote for Chez.. just because he's a brown-noser doesn't mean his brown obsession needs to cloud your judgments on the obvious truths laid out upon you :/
If Vivi is voting for Chez, he clearly knows Chez isn't red, as who else would vote for a teammate so early on in the day? PUH-LEAZE~ ??? vivi is confirmed? I've obviously missed something So is redtooth, they're both on the same team, like I've been saying for some time now :/ You can't have one without the other, they're partners in crime. Yeah but what motbob is wondering is WHY they are both mafia. how did you arrive at such a conclusion? I don't really see it either. Vivi's voting for Ace to be the Pardoner although he thought that Tricode was the most likely green for sure, but still switched away.
Also, that kind of non-mafia pairs would be extremely rare in this kind of a game with DTs not knowing their sanity until after a couple of days. The other choices would be medic block or blind trust. Medic block is impossible and blind trust isn't really likely, so the logical conclusion is obvious.
This of course assumes that they both actually are in the same team, so I guess you should take the time to read through their post history and see what you think.
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Right now, I don't really see how Chezinu is mafia, at least more than like Vivi. Care to explain?
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Oh boy! The game just got a lot more interesting!
SugiuraMidori, you don't know everything, but let's just say for now that umm... you're overestimating my skills.
Looking forward to see how Scamp vs L turns out, hopefully I'll have something interesting for you guys tomorrow.
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On October 29 2009 11:25 SugiuraMidori wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2009 10:49 Tricode wrote: Pyrr, why are you using 2 votes this time? My dear Tricode, it is a well known fact, and one Qatol forgot to observe till now, that the Mayor counts for two votes. I'm sorry Shikyo, I guess I just see you as a good player, on my level, pardon the overestimation. Well dnno, you're wrong. Also, I don't think me and Pyrr have ever resembled like we've acted in a team.
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On October 30 2009 01:56 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Want to live, Make more compelling arguments because well shikyo has been using chez as a mouthpiece most of the game(he rolled with it because shikyo took advantage of knowing no one would talk to the guy all game). One single time instead of "most of the game", sorry. In the thread he said a mafia has been giving him orders. Would he say that if we both were mafia? Think so? Or even if he himself was mafia? Maybe I could be mafia and he could be innocent, believe that if you like.
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On October 30 2009 04:50 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2009 04:48 Shikyo wrote:On October 30 2009 01:56 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Want to live, Make more compelling arguments because well shikyo has been using chez as a mouthpiece most of the game(he rolled with it because shikyo took advantage of knowing no one would talk to the guy all game). One single time instead of "most of the game", sorry. In the thread he said a mafia has been giving him orders. Would he say that if we both were mafia? Think so? Or even if he himself was mafia? Maybe I could be mafia and he could be innocent, believe that if you like. Thats typically how this game works. um what?
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