When I flip green, you should just offer yourself to be voted off.
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When I flip green, you should just offer yourself to be voted off. | ||
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@Hobbes: If someone keeps egging me on based on clues, then I die and flip green you should lynch the accuser. You forgot to mention that in your post. Everyone should be held accountable. If we let people point fingers and an innocent gets lynched and they get away with an "oops", then everyone is going to do it. | ||
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<---haven't casted a vote yet | ||
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Ace Ver BC everyone else | ||
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<--rolls for doly all the time | ||
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I disagree with so much of you're post. You're first paragraph is blatantly wrong because clues aren't always right. The very fact that you don't even know what automatically constitutes a clue makes you wrong on that too. | ||
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On February 15 2010 09:53 DoctorHelvetica wrote: kk, that's what I thought you meant. Ace's arguments are circular and a bit irrational. L is keeping it objective and focusing the attention on what matters, the clue analysis. Ace is trying to divert attention away from that and making unnecessary personal attacks on L. Suspicious behavior. I'm more certain that Ace is mafia at this point than Bill Murray and if I am elected, I will lynch Ace. Bill Murray is the "safe" choice, but if he flips green we learn nothing. If he flips red, Ace/redtooth are suspicious imo, but we learn absolutely nothing if he was green other than he played badly yet again. Considering his play in the last game, it now seems more likely that he is just a bad townie. That "other mafia godfather" was initially very incriminating, but after discussing with him in PM and arguing with him a bit I don't think he's mafia at all. If he was, he'd have no reason to get angry and flame me in PM unless he is literally the worst mafia player ever. If Ace is green we get a lot more information. Personally I don't feel it would make L suspect because his accusations against him were all based on the clues, but we may be able to cross a lot of potential mafia off of our list. If he is red, Bill Murray, redtooth, and people who just immediately voted for him/defended him without thinking about the arguments would fall under some degree of suspicion. looks like my trap worked. Huge post coming up soon. You're going to have a hell of a time defending yourself. | ||
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On February 15 2010 10:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Lynching Empyrean gives us no information. Although the clue connection is solid, Ace has a strong clue AND behavioral connection imo and we learn a lot depending on how he flips. It has nothing to do with if he's a veteran or not. and another logical fallacy I've found. Get the rope ready. | ||
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Then he tried to link myself and redtooth. In fact he's done this several times in an effort to say my death will imply information about him when we haven't even done anything that shows we are on the same side. The most telling example I have is the trap I set. See I knew that regardless of what role L has, he'd attack me. In fact it's amusing that he does this all the time then people that complain about us arguing. Those people are actually my PRIME SUSPECTS because every time L and I argue a shitload of information seeps out. I'm sure L already has a list of these soon to be dead people lined up though. The main part of my trap was seeing if anyone was going to shadow L. You know, loosely agree with some of his posts no matter how wrong they are and then try and implicate me. The mere fact that you propose lynching me on Day 1 based on CLUES is a telling point that you want to off me so bad. Even L stepped back for a second to re-asses but you kept on with the accusation. However there was one other thing that tipped me over the edge. How is it possible that you are currently reading the thread, I'm not even posting and you want to lynch me and you skip Caller's post? That was probably the biggest piece of positive information in the last ~10 hours and you chose to ignore it. You are definitely not pro-town. You're Mafia. | ||
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On February 15 2010 11:28 redtooth wrote: ok now we're arguing with no goal in mind but let me just prove why you are wrong. those posts are so nostalgic: they sound like every other game where Ace and L start off by accusing each other. guess what? in this game nobody listened to ace and just shrugged off his arguments. it wasn't until i started defending him that shit really hit the fan. then everybody started talking, ace backed off and game started moving. and damage control? for what? because you think i'm mafia? or because L (who i was arguing against) and a large chunk of the town realize that i'm town aligned by now. lol you can 'start discussions' with clue analysis all you want. i'll do it by arguing against whoever is talking and randomly/halfheartedly accusing people (chezinu, BC, BM, L) to see their responses. also, if you still don't realize that Ace and i aren't aligned then omg you are slow. you are starting to seem more and more scummy, playing a lot like pyrr did when he was mafia (spamming, agreeing with vets, eventually you'll start apologizing for mistakes). can't wait to see what Ace has in store and can't wait to see what you've got to say. gg scum. don't forget how he tries to tie loose implications up as "solid" facts. Seriously this is so lol. | ||
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Dr.H there's another more specific post I have coming up. Sit tight, that seat is about to get a lot hotter. | ||
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On February 15 2010 12:03 L wrote: Ace and I, while often opponents, do not typically argue about this we consider irrelevant. If Ace says he thinks clues are worthless, he actually thinks clues are worthless. Many of our arguments come up after the game ends again because neither of us are convinced that our opposite made a good case. In the current instance, I don't see what Ace's argument is other than "I SET A TRAP BECAUSE EVERYONE WHO AGREES WITH L MUST BE MAFIA". Seems pretty dumb; if you actually set that trap, you'd be going balls deep trying to kill Iaaan. BC i'm commenting on your post, had to get a word in edgewise because these two parties are silly. Of course you can't see it, cuz you're not me ^_^ Don't worry about Iaaan. Dr.H comes off way more suspicious for the mere fact he's equating my behavior as Mafia-ish. Really do we have to go through this every game where someone keeps trying to get a bandwagon against me? Either way like I said if you're going to try and use clues as the motivating factor for lynches this game then the town has to agree to hold anyone responsible for mistakes. If you start a bandwagon, or are a main contributor in the lynching of a townie you deserve to be lynched off the bat. No exceptions. In the event I die, when I flip green I really don't want anyone to say "well it was a mistaken clue interpretation". | ||
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/facepalm | ||
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So in past games I've just begun to blatantly ignore it, hoping that others just read your post and see it for themselves. The fact that me "vigorously" defending myself must mean I'm mafia is so beyond stupid I'm hoping we've got enough sensible people working in the backgrounds on all of this. Either way, it just makes me feel more important and makes my ego bigger. I love the fact that even when I'm just sitting back relaxing the "Ace must be Mafia!" plays start coming. Just goes to show you how great a player I am that people go out of there way to make themselves fail. | ||
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