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First off. WHY DID EVERYONE VOTE NIKON?
We vote Caller
CALLER IS MAFIA.
Town wouldn't lie about claiming and JAPAN hasn't been claimed ='s Japan is mafia. Can we kill Caller and get this over with, THEN lynch Nikon? (Ace really should have linked nuke land posts + Night/days to first page)
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On April 06 2010 12:01 Caller wrote: on a completely unrelated note, any ideas on who i should check tonight? Haster/Fishball/Infund.
Take a pick.
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On April 06 2010 11:51 haster27 wrote: That is possible, since nemY also was one to come out of nowhere and volunteer nuke him according to what Town was saying. However, with so little Townie numbers left, I am reluctant about risking decreasing townie number further.
INfund: "Nemy returns. Fires nukes at Nikon because he thinks the town wants him to. Actually, not many people were on so it's hard to say what anyone really wanted."
Shit, I was under the impression he was following my suggestion. I believe a few agreed with me on that respect. One suspect nuking another suspect? God...Haster....Stop adding more and more to my suspicions. You even agreed it was a good idea to verify Iaaan AND/OR Nikon. Lookie here...LMNOP was pretty much the first to attack Nikon after the two vet claims. Nikon could be third party...Honestly, it would make sense for him to claim vet, because he prob had an extra night/day life being third party.
On April 05 2010 01:29 haster27 wrote: Okay. The nuke can determine his alignment, and I still think Town benefits whatever happens.
If Nikon is not Veteran: we get needed Mafia kill.
If Nikon is Veteran: we can also be sure that laaan is Town because Mafia will not know the ability of Veteran. Me and Haster agreed...and haster said a nuke can determine Iaaan to be town but is now arguing against it confirming Iaaan? Right? But no...Now its "Too convenient we target the nuke hacker"
Also, infund I could give a shit about Japan lying about their role because they have anti-nukes. Fuck the anti-nukes. Just because you used one DOES NOT MEAN you have more. So fuck that. If they are town, and Caller is lynched and isn't red BECAUSE JAPAN (assuming japan is town) lied, then that's fucking brilliant.
Nikon is a fucking baller isn't he? "Veteran" -Nuke me and find out- Epic quotes.
Pretty obvious he's fucked up there. You should of mentioned your role. Wonder how many times it works, but I can see it being useful for my purposes. Your like a little puppet. I can use you to extend my day almost as much as I want, if it's a constant, not just a one time thing.
=D Or maybe you get to choose? Do I seem like the kinda guy who would launch a fake at mafia suspects? Tree.Hugger can tell you that. At any rate- You can chill for a minute. I'm concerned about the "Let's pop Nikon" crowd. Just because the nuke turned around and he lied, does make him mafia. But Japan not claiming means Caller is mafia. Now that's true....unless one of you townie ass holes lied to town for NO DAMN REASON OTHER THAN HAVING ANTI-NUKES.
And if you did that...God I hate you.
Also...If we lynch Nikon and he pops red? What then? Do you still want Caller to die? Yes, yes, Caller please look at Haster tonight actually good sir.
Fishball, chase LMNOP through the woods, and I'll go polish my nukes.
Also, let me emphasize this. Serial Killer Role, if you MUST hit someone hit Iaaan tonight. It would be nice....Y'know...Cuz if he lied, he dies...If he lives...Well he lives and he didn't lie...Lol. Or you didn't hit him. But pleeeeeeeeeeease...
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D3, you came up red to Caller's dt check. What do you say to that?
I'm going to ask Caller to make a vote on someone...Otherwise I think modkilling someone with under 20 posts in a 100 page thread, that has claimed Cop(DT) and has already missed a vote.... + Show Spoiler + (Look at me being a vulture trying to make Caller kick the bucket without having to lynch him)
=P
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bleh...Sorry. I just really think it's obvious Caller is mafia now with no Japan and the random ass save from Japan.
+ Show Spoiler +This better not be what that :3 is about, or I will flip
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I was just saying that because you were on the same time the anti-nuke was fired (They posted as soon as the post is received because Anti-Nukes can be used to strategically allow lynches instead of giving time for vote changes) that you could likely be lying about you country. Along with LMNOP.
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...Nemy...I was defending you homie...
Why so defensive?
Haster even agreed. Which Inf was the one using hasters statement IN his long post detailing the actions of the thread.
Citizen, how does your ability work. You can retaliate, OR only nuke people that nuke you...
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On April 07 2010 03:06 ~OpZ~ wrote: ...Nemy...I was defending you homie...
Why so defensive?
Haster even agreed. Which Inf was the one using hasters statement IN his long post detailing the actions of the thread.
Citizen, how does your ability work. You can retaliate, OR only nuke people that nuke you... Clarity:
Haster agreed a suspect nuking a suspect was cool. Then said you just "came and nuked him" or some shit similar. I don't care about the exact wording enough, its on page 96 or 97 near the top (I believe) if anyone's concerned about that. Then he said it was good if Iaaan nuked him, but iaaan had already said he had no nukes....So I called for Nemy to do it, and nemy obliged us. Which is appreciative. I've done said that was a good protown thing to do Nemy.
Which unless Nikon is actually a townie, then we're good. I'd rather lynch Caller because...well...Someone's lying about being Japan, and since Japan won't step forward, Caller is all but gauranteed mafia. Seriously Japan, if Caller is innocent and this gets him lynched....But that isn't the case. Japan has no reason to lie right now. If he had anti's he'd save Nemy. So...Caller must be mafia. AMIRITE?
Can we lynch the gauranteed mafia already?
-_- Keeping Nikon alive = exceptionally useful if I everyone refuses to create discussion.
-_-
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On April 07 2010 03:08 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2010 03:06 ~OpZ~ wrote: ...Nemy...I was defending you homie...
Why so defensive?
Haster even agreed. Which Inf was the one using hasters statement IN his long post detailing the actions of the thread.
Citizen, how does your ability work. You can retaliate, OR only nuke people that nuke you... retaliate = nuking people that nuke you no idea why you separate the two as if they are different Because in the beginning someone said something about not nuking because nuking countries will just launch the rest of their nukes to bumfuck everyone. Hence why I seperate. I've been confused for quite some time. Thank you.
=D
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On April 07 2010 03:48 nemY wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2010 03:06 ~OpZ~ wrote: ...Nemy...I was defending you homie...
Why so defensive?
Haster even agreed. Which Inf was the one using hasters statement IN his long post detailing the actions of the thread.
Citizen, how does your ability work. You can retaliate, OR only nuke people that nuke you... Because Inf. framed it in a way that makes me look really bad? Doesn't really matter now that inf's not in the game anymore. Anyways... I have a (very real) nuke coming towards me and I have pretty strong suspicions on who the nuke came from (well actually... who redirected it, I was the one who lobbed the nuke out there) Show nested quote +On April 04 2010 12:58 Nikon wrote:On April 04 2010 01:15 Elemenope wrote:On April 04 2010 00:21 Nikon wrote:On April 03 2010 20:27 Elemenope wrote:On April 03 2010 20:05 Nikon wrote:On April 03 2010 17:02 Elemenope wrote:On April 03 2010 13:50 Iaaan wrote: Last, a solid roleclaim from me, I was being ambiguous before, I am Antarctica, a veteran. My powers are 1 extra life against nukes, and 1 extra life against night hits. This makes me suspicious of nikon still, if we are both veterans, why are our roles different? I asked him a little bit about his role on the last page, from what he has said it doesn't sound like he has an extra life against nukes. This is interesting, and from this, only one thing comes to mind - though I'd like to hear Nikon's take about Iaaan claiming veteran before coming to a decision. Well, it would make sense to have more than one Veteran in a setup where there are multiple parties that can nightkill... You seem to be confused. I'm not interested about the fact that there are multiple people role claiming as 'Veteran'. What I'm more interested about is the fact that these same two roles have different abilities, yet you seem to be fine with this. We have you who claimed to be hit during the night, yet you are wondering if Iaaan's claim of a free nuke block during the day is true or not, going so far as to launch a nuke at him. Yet Iaaan is also claiming to be a veteran with a free nuke block and a free night hit block, and you don't find this surprising even when he roleclaimed the same role as you? You seem quite casual about this and I can only guess that due to the difference of abilities of the same claimed roles: One or both of you are lying about your roleclaims. Yeah, except that laaan said that he will survive nukes yesterday, and I nuked him before he claimed veteran. You assume we have different abilities because he's assuming so, based on information I said I want to withhold. What was the point in nuking him? Let's assume these things: A) You are a veteran B) Veteran ability entails a free night hit which is standard, but not as standard: a free nuke hit C) Nobody mentions that they are immune to a single nuke hit until Iaaan mentions it Given these three things, you still launch a nuke at Iaaan when only B is something Veterans could know. Iaaan could've guessed the ability, thinking it makes sense given that given that nukes are in the hands of 22 people, somebody ought to have nuke protection, even if it is a one-shot ability; however, the chance of this is very slim in my eyes, especially coupled with the fact that he says On April 03 2010 06:46 Iaaan wrote:On April 03 2010 01:37 Nikon wrote: I am a Veteran. I took a hit last night.
With that out of the way - laaan, if I nuke you, do you think it will hit? It will hit, but it wont kill me. Do you have nuke protection to? and are you arctica? in response to you role claiming Veteran. He clearly says that veterans also have a one-shot day nuke protection. Yet you go ahead and nuke him and choose to withhold your capabilities even while roleclaiming? You realize the problem with this, right? On top of this, you claim that your missile is fake which accomplishes absolutely nothing in terms of confirming whether Iaaan is truly veteran or not as his ability, which you should know, blocks a nuke hit because, as Iaaan puts it which you are also implying by not denying the fact that veterans have a one-shot nuke protection, it gives an extra life against nukes which means an actual nuke has to hit. Because of this, your only purpose in sending that nuke is to accomplish one of two things: A) Burn up an antinuke which you did so well with your first nuke, or B) Burn up a veteran's extra nuke protection Both of which do not help the town at all. So perhaps you could explain why you thought that someone stating he possesses an ability that hasn't been mentioned by anybody until then which somehow conveniently matches your ability would deserve a nuke in order to prove this ability? If he's not veteran: congratulations, you probably killed scum since he lied, but this means you also lied about your fake nuke on Zona. If he is veteran: you burned his day protection and you lied about your fake nuke on Zona. If your missile is a dud: you accomplished nothing at all in terms of extra information for the town and we have no confirmation of your first missile. What was really going through your mind when you decided to nuke Iaaan? Nuke me to find out. Why shouldn't we move forward to lynch Nikon? I'm not sure. ##Vote Nikon
Would be nice to know if you think someone other than Nikon redirected it...
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On April 07 2010 13:15 Fishball wrote: ~Opz~, Abenson, what other powers do you have besides being able to talk in PM's and transferring nukes?
Can you elaborate more on the nuke transfer? How often can you use it? Is there a limit?
This would be something the Nuke stealer would like to know.
Who are you tracking tonight. And who is caller checking?
hopefully your following d3 and caller is checking Haster/LMNOP
But any rate, I'm voting Caller tomorrow. If japan is town aligned, Japan sucks.
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On April 07 2010 11:41 haster27 wrote: At least one thing is clear; Japan is Mafia, thus Caller is Mafia. The town either have no anti-nukes, or Townie having anti-nukes were afraid of using it because people were saying how Japan handles this missile will verify it's intentions. At least we have firm plan on who to lynch tomorrow; although all of us Townies will probably have to vote, I am hoping some Mafia will join in on the Caller bandwagon as well because voting someone else is going to be blatant anti-town move. Actually it would be much better if SK could hit him and leave us one less Mafia to deal with, of course. I pointed this out yesterday. And everyone decided Nikon was a better target. I even suggested that NIKON WAS THE THIRD PARTY. It would A)Explain the nuke rebound and B)Explain the night hit he took. Third party's usually are a combo of vet and vig.
I'm fed up with you, and I honestly think one of you and LMNOP are mafia. I'm all for lynching you to tell you the truth. I had Caller confirmed as Mafia YESTERDAY, and we lynch Nikon because "He lied about his ability so he should die" YES he SHOULD. But look at me, I seemed to catch on he was third party, and where'd my vote stay? ON CALLER, where EVERYONE else's should of been.
On April 06 2010 19:50 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2010 11:51 haster27 wrote: That is possible, since nemY also was one to come out of nowhere and volunteer nuke him according to what Town was saying. However, with so little Townie numbers left, I am reluctant about risking decreasing townie number further. Show nested quote +INfund: "Nemy returns. Fires nukes at Nikon because he thinks the town wants him to. Actually, not many people were on so it's hard to say what anyone really wanted." Shit, I was under the impression he was following my suggestion. I believe a few agreed with me on that respect. One suspect nuking another suspect? God...Haster....Stop adding more and more to my suspicions. You even agreed it was a good idea to verify Iaaan AND/OR Nikon. Lookie here...LMNOP was pretty much the first to attack Nikon after the two vet claims. Nikon could be third party...Honestly, it would make sense for him to claim vet, because he prob had an extra night/day life being third party.
Well...That's fun fun yes?
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##Vote Citizen I'll explain later.
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I think I've previously said my feelings on this. Want what are you talking about voting you out because you advocated Nikons death? I'm not voting you out, I'm voting citizen out. What kind of statement is that Haster? Are you citizen?
Terribly wording maybe, but I've done said you seem shady as fuck several times. Then citizen pops on backing everything you say? Making the same arguments? Honestly, Caller could damn well be red. I've made plenty of arguments to justify why he would be red. But I'm also severely suspect as you, and YOU ADDED TO MY OWN EVIDENCE AGAINST YOU, by saying the mafia role blocker MAY NOT BLOCK so one of his fellow MAFIA can claim to have been blocked.
On April 08 2010 08:38 haster27 wrote: This is ridiculous. By your argument you shouldn't even accuse me of being scummy since I was "exonerated" by today's roleblock. Mafia roleblocker can always choose not to roleblock anyone for the day, so that his scum partner or himself can step up and state that he has been Roleblocked.
What?!
I said this to abenson: One of haster or LMNOP is mafia.
I am almost certain of that. Probably haster. He's really pushing for Caller's lynch right now, when I was more concerned about hitting Caller last night because we knew he was confirmed.
You notice the suspicion being pressed upon LMNOP right?
Iaaan (whom haster still suspects). I'm not sure where this is going as I'm kind of suspicious of haster. I don't know what to think though about that.
Now, Japan hasn't claimed, which really puts Caller in a bad light. But it could just be a stupid ass townie. Caller will probably be lynched tomorrow.
It's obvious Nikon was trying to draw being nuked ALL GAME, by his random nuke at Zona, that wasted our ONE OF OUR FUCKING anti-nukes. Ass hole.
Infundiblum...He's come and popped up being helpful and gets banned. I didn't like his role. It doesn't seem very town to me, but Xelin's screamed mafia too so who knows.. Great fucking timing. -_- ...Fishball? He's the one know knew about Caller's night actions, so he's probably town aligned. Caller, like I posted in the thread, unless some fucking MORONIC ASS TOWNIE LIED. The SK hitting Iaaan tonight would be the most useful thing ever. It wouldn't confirm Iaaan because the SK wont step forward, but it would add tell us to believe Iaaan. D3, if he is mafia, Elemenope is mafia.
And Elemenope he said he would post more after the nuke...And we're still waiting for it....
/end statements
These have been my thoughts. I've not editted them. Saved them. Waited. Sent them to Abenson so I'd have some marks after I died, and so I'd have all my thoughts written down in a nice, easy to post format.
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On April 08 2010 10:58 citi.zen wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2010 09:27 ~OpZ~ wrote: I think I've previously said my feelings on this. Want what are you talking about voting you out because you advocated Nikons death? I'm not voting you out, I'm voting citizen out. What kind of statement is that Haster? Are you citizen?
Terribly wording maybe, but I've done said you seem shady as fuck several times. Then citizen pops on backing everything you say? Making the same arguments? Honestly, Caller could damn well be red. I've made plenty of arguments to justify why he would be red. But I'm also severely suspect as you, and YOU ADDED TO MY OWN EVIDENCE AGAINST YOU, by saying the mafia role blocker MAY NOT BLOCK so one of his fellow MAFIA can claim to have been blocked.
So you think Haster is suspect, then promptly go on to vote for me. Good job.
Caller claiming Japan makes him EXTREMELY less scummy. Just saying...If he would of saved himself, then claimed Japan out in the open, mafia would of hit him. He would of seemed extremely more pro town. Meaning a higher chance the mafia would hit him.
BUT WAIT, there's more: Caller said he role-checked me at night, while at the same time claiming I can't be checked, err... have a role which deters checks because I can retaliate. Of course, Caller is still very much alive, there was no retaliation. As I've said many times before, the only thing China can do is nuke those who nuke it first. Not... you know... kill those who check it.
Because Infund false claimed? Obvious. Not that hard to see. How would you deter the known cop to investigate you? Claim townie or claim a blue that can't be checked. Haster/Infund
Let us not forget the final piece here: Caller's supposed check came out town, which must mean I am red, of course!
Insane Cop. Terrible argument, you need to reread the thread. Meeple came out red. D3 came out red You came out Town. Meeple is confirmed, and D3 will be confirmed.
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On April 08 2010 11:23 Iaaan wrote: so, just my own little thoughts from my own point of view:
caller checked d3 and he showed up red. thus, if we believe that caller is town, we have to believe that d3 is town. so, with opz and abenson being confirmed as townies, and then myself, caller and d3 being townies to, that leaves jeejee haster lmnop and citizen as mafia.
A lot of confirmed people...
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On April 08 2010 11:33 Elemenope wrote: I suppose I should rather ask:
Do you believe Caller or not? And whom do you believe. Who do you feel is more vote worthy. I don't see you or Iaaan casting votes? Or even really stating a position.
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On April 08 2010 11:25 Elemenope wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2010 11:23 Iaaan wrote: so, just my own little thoughts from my own point of view:
caller checked d3 and he showed up red. thus, if we believe that caller is town, we have to believe that d3 is town. so, with opz and abenson being confirmed as townies, and then myself, caller and d3 being townies to, that leaves jeejee haster lmnop and citizen as mafia. Since when were you confirmed townie?
Oh, and he knows about the Veteran's being protected from night and day hits. Seems like something awkward to know. Didn't noticed how he questioned Nikon if he had a night and day life?
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On April 08 2010 12:16 haster27 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2010 12:09 citi.zen wrote: In fact, in this game I'm allowed to vote for myself, so here:
##Vote citi.zen
GG town. NO. GODDAMN IT. I WILL NOT ALLOW TOWN TO FAIL THIS MUCH. I am leaving soon, but I will try to find hole in Caller's argument and turn the game around by tomorrow. Please extract your retarded self-vote NOW. By the way, Caller can you please clarify this portion of my previous post? Your choice of role-check makes no sense at all. Show nested quote +Also why in the world would you check infund out of all the suspects? Since you are so convinced that his role meant automatic retaliation, you should have avoided him at all costs and checked me like ~OpZ~ suggested. Look, everyone agreed that Mafia and Townie numbers were getting dangerously close, and keeping even one Townie alive was important. So why would you ignore recommendation from confirmed Townie and on your own make a decision that could have costed your life? If infund indeed have been paranoid gun owner (Townie), you (Townie Detective) would have been killed. Thus your took unnecessary action that would have placed the Town in worse position. Because infund came out the wood work just a little while ago? Or maybe because the game would been over right then and there if INfund didn't lie about his role and we wouldn't be sitting through this? Seems pretty smart actually.
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