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On May 26 2010 10:29 Fishball wrote: We don't know about the YT leaders, but it is safe to assume the rest of the faction leaders can take 2 hits.
important thing to know is: it's two night hits. LR died in one lynch.
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On May 26 2010 10:47 Fishball wrote: Right now, if I had a grenade, I would just tie BM, Abenson, Johnnyspazz, and Trez together and throw a grenade at them.
Just to watch them squeal for their lives and kaboom.
Sounds right to me.
Abenson, if you are neutral then just...
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if you're not, then
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yea.
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On May 26 2010 11:51 Abenson wrote: So yea... when is the day gonna end?
like 24 hours yo.
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So desperate.
So pitiful.
So BM.
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LD, maybe you should PM Caller and ask if your day hit penetrates the two lives deal. As in something like,
"If my day hit kills people with two lives, then ##Kill Trez.
If not, then ##Kill Bill Murray"
or whoever. If BM's not lying about his kamikaze role (you kill me I kill you), then I don't really like this trade, but it's up to you, and I have no idea why Fishball doesn't want you to kill Trez beforehand.
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On May 27 2010 10:34 Fishball wrote: If you, BrownBear, LunarDestiny and DarthThienAn all want me to announce my role, I will do so.
Please do - I'm going to post an updated role / name list soon.
and heads up I'm the alignment DT, Radfield was neutral on night 1, and Iaaan was neutral night 2. Night 3 check will be decided by us all.
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On May 27 2010 10:30 Radfield wrote: OK, I layed out who i feel is NOT a leader, so lets look at the rest of the people in the game. I might be remembering a few things wrong here, so if people see any errors let me know.
The rest of the people
1. Bill Murray 5. Scamp 7. Falcynn 10. BloodyCobbler 11. MyHeroNoob 15. TwotoneTerran 17. ~Opz~ 20. Fishball
Myheronoob and twotoneterran both came out on the proper side of nameclaims, which makes me think they are not the green leader. Opz was pretty much the first person to nameclaim, which reduces suspicion on him greatly. Falcynn claimed Sima Yi, which Xelin confirmed was in the game, given that it listed Sima Yi in Xelin's role description. Bill Murray's role of bad army leader seems legit. Even if everything else he said was lying, I'm inclined to believe that part of his story, because he mentioned it at the beginning of the game and made a big stink of it.
This leaves three people. Scamp, BC and Fishball. Fishball has STILL not name claimed(I think) which makes him most likely to be the green leader I suppose. BC has a night action and has been very quiet. Scamp has claimed a powerful role, I'm inclined to believe him, but I have nothing which with I can clear him from the short list.
Any objections to this logic? Recommendations on how we should proceed will follow.
What should we make of MyHeroNoob's "I made it all up" post, concerning his name and role? Something to consider, if you remember it.
On May 27 2010 10:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote: You are Huang Gai, Every night you may challenge someone to a duel. If you win two duels in a row, you gain an extra night life. If you lose the duel, you die, regardless of however many lives you have.
What does a duel consist of o.O
The list:
1. Bill Murray............Yuan Shao - dies if he chooses lynch
2. Hesmyrr................Lu Xun - Action Blocker
3. johnnyspazz ........Zhang Liao - ? 4. Radfield................Zhuge Liang - Random 5. Scamp..................Guan Yu - 6. Ohn......................Pang Tong - 7. Falcynn................Sima Yi - 8. Iaaan.....................Cao Pi - Successor if Recruited (useless)
9. L...........................Sun Quan - Red Leader 10. BloodyCobbler.....Huang Gai - (NOT a night action cancel) 11. MyHeroNoob.......Meng Huo - Able to desert 12. Xelin...................Jian Wei - Roleblock 13. BrownBear..........Zhao Yun - Vigilante/stay-home-kill
14. Tricode................Lu Meng - Role Cop (+YT) 15. TwotoneTerran.....Ma Chao 16. Abenson.............Taishi Ci - Kills YTs (useless) 17. ~Opz~................Lu Bu - lost his luver (none)
18. Barth.................Diao Chan - ???
19. Trezequet23........Zhang Jiao - YT Leader 20. Fishball...............? 21. Lunardestiny.......Xu Zhu - Daykill (used)
22. Last Romantic....Cao Cao - Leader 23. DarthThienAn......Zhou Yu - Alignment DT
24. Jugan.................Zhang Fei -
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ebwop:
The list:
1. Bill Murray............Yuan Shao - dies if he chooses lynch
2. Hesmyrr................Lu Xun - Action Blocker
3. johnnyspazz ........Zhang Liao - ? 4. Radfield................Zhuge Liang - Random 5. Scamp..................Guan Yu - 6. Ohn......................Pang Tong - Tracker 7. Falcynn................Sima Yi - 8. Iaaan.....................Cao Pi - Successor if Recruited (useless)
9. L...........................Sun Quan - Red Leader 10. BloodyCobbler.....Huang Gai - "Duelist" 11. MyHeroNoob.......Meng Huo - Able to desert 12. Xelin...................Jian Wei - Roleblock 13. BrownBear..........Zhao Yun - Vigilante/stay-home-kill
14. Tricode................Lu Meng - Role Cop (+YT) 15. TwotoneTerran.....Ma Chao 16. Abenson.............Taishi Ci - Kills YTs (useless) 17. ~Opz~................Lu Bu - lost his luver (none)
18. Barth.................Diao Chan - ???
19. Trezequet23........Zhang Jiao - YT Leader 20. Fishball...............? 21. Lunardestiny.......Xu Zhu - Daykill (used)
22. Last Romantic....Cao Cao - Leader 23. DarthThienAn......Zhou Yu - Alignment DT
24. Jugan.................Zhang Fei -
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On May 27 2010 10:43 Fishball wrote: I am Dian Wei. Bodyguard, protect Night Hits. I do NOT have Day Kill abilities like Xu Zhu.
Note: this is consistent with his dodging name + roleclaim.
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Question to everyone:
How did barth die night 1?
Brownbear didn't do it, which means we have another vigilante or something. It wasn't Radfield's random power either because he got YT killer and got roleblocked anyway. So what happened there? Second vig, please RC if you are alive.
BC, do you know what Jugan's role was?
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On May 27 2010 10:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2010 10:47 LunarDestiny wrote: BUT Jugan is FUCKING ZHANG FEI. Huang Gai is shit against ZHANG FEI who went head to head against LU BU. and I didn't believe his claim? regardless, he died so the fight ended in a draw. Show nested quote +On May 27 2010 10:47 DarthThienAn wrote: Question to everyone:
How did barth die night 1?
Brownbear didn't do it, which means we have another vigilante or something. It wasn't Radfield's random power either because he got YT killer and got roleblocked anyway. So what happened there? Second vig, please RC if you are alive.
BC, do you know what Jugan's role was? No, my role doesn't let me know who people are, just lets me duel them.
Well, I thought you were talking to him or something xD. Or what that BM?
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On May 26 2010 09:47 johnnyspazz wrote: YEAH GO KILL TREZEQUET23! i got a worthless ability since wu is dead
Nah it weren't jspazz. Gonna keep lookin though.
The list: 1. Bill Murray............Yuan Shao - dies if he chooses lynch
2. Hesmyrr................Lu Xun - Action Blocker
3. johnnyspazz ........Zhang Liao - ? 4. Radfield................Zhuge Liang - Random 5. Scamp..................Guan Yu - 6. Ohn......................Pang Tong - Tracker 7. Falcynn................Sima Yi - 8. Iaaan.....................Cao Pi - Successor if Recruited (useless)
9. L...........................Sun Quan - Red Leader 10. BloodyCobbler.....Huang Gai - "Duelist" 11. MyHeroNoob.......Meng Huo - Able to desert 12. Xelin...................Jian Wei - Roleblock 13. BrownBear..........Zhao Yun - Vigilante/stay-home-kill
14. Tricode................Lu Meng - Role Cop (+YT) 15. TwotoneTerran.....Ma Chao - 16. Abenson.............Taishi Ci - Kills YTs (useless) 17. ~Opz~................Lu Bu - lost his luver (none)
18. Barth.................Diao Chan - ???
19. Trezequet23........Zhang Jiao - YT Leader 20. Fishball...............Dian Wei - Bodyguard 21. Lunardestiny.......Xu Zhu - Daykill (used)
22. Last Romantic....Cao Cao - Leader 23. DarthThienAn......Zhou Yu - Alignment DT
24. Jugan.................Zhang Fei -
Missing: Scamp Falcynn TwoToneTerran
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On May 27 2010 11:12 Bill Murray wrote: how am i alive i guess i wasn't YT after all lol in that case, i am neutral.
furthermore, i do not believe that i can be daykilled based upon my role pm
Caller didn't change the dayvig from johnnyspazz
yes. you are either neutral or green.
so you CANT be daykilled at all? Even by lynch?
On May 27 2010 11:12 Bill Murray wrote: this is part of the reason i was telling you not to dayvig me
Nice 2000th post.
On May 27 2010 11:12 Bill Murray wrote: i'm glad i'm neutral. as a result of me being neutral, i promise to help the town a lot more.
I'd rather see it than hear it o.O
But, technically, you're useless at the moment, unless you can logically explain why someone out of Radfield's suspects is not leader. We only don't think you're leader because you've soft-roleclaimed relatively early.
On May 27 2010 11:15 ohN wrote: The people who haven't roleclaimed yet are pretty suspicious imo. We should investigate those 3 in DarthTheinAn's post this night.
And BC, your role sounds really.. stupid and pointless. I don't believe you because L claimed his role had something to do with a "poison pill" and it was complete BS. I don't think Caller would add an almost completely useless and random role like the one you claimed to have.
Scamp and Falcynn are suspicious. TwoToneTerran is not because he counter-claimed my Ma Chao (see Scamp? It wasn't so useless and retarded after all). Note that we only care about the leader atm. Falcynn claimed relatively early as Sima Yi, and no one has counter-claimed him. Since Sima Yi is in this game, according to Xelin, he's not that suspicious. Read the previous posts man -_-.
And yes, BC's role is extremely suspicious, and sounds pretty fake - he also has no way of confirming or not confirming it soo.. he's also been quiet this game, which he explains as he had company over, which, in this thread, is not a legitimate reason.
So, back to the original three: Scamp BC Fishball is the least suspicious of the three, but still potentially a leader.
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ebwop:
also, ohn, can you be active today - "tonight" ? We could really use your tracker ability during this night cycle. So, if possible, please be on an hour or two before night ends, which should be in 24 hours ish? right? tomorrow midnight EDT as far as I know?
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On May 27 2010 11:26 Iaaan wrote: Hey guys, seeing as how faction leaders have two lives, and lives only effects 'hits', lynches always kill no matter what, isn't it kind of strange that Bill Murray took a hit, but is still alive? Put that together with his bullshiting, looks pretty bad for Bill.
He didn't take a hit.
On May 27 2010 11:28 Iaaan wrote: oh and also, I think we should probably vote to give me your armies, since I was rolechecked and confirmed to be neutral.
It's night, we can worry about that later ^^
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On May 27 2010 11:29 LunarDestiny wrote:To explain why Bill Murray didn't die (heaven's will?) My 2nd amendment (johnnyspazz->Bill Murray) was made after Caller frozen the day actions. Show nested quote +On May 26 2010 09:47 johnnyspazz wrote: YEAH GO KILL TREZEQUET23! i got a worthless ability since wu is dead It seems johnnyspazz wasn't lying about his role either since Zhang Liao is famous for holding 200,000 troops led by Sun Quan with 7000 troops defending He Fei. Should look at Johnnyspazz's other posts for some information.
His other posts are mainly trolling, joking around, or not substantial. -_-
so wait, he held off 200,000 Wu troops with 7,000 on his side?
...damn. That's like 300 yo. I wonder what that would make his role though... can't be recruited by Wu? Too specific and lame. Kills Wu if they recruit him? Eh... still too specific. Dunno.
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On May 27 2010 11:32 LunarDestiny wrote: Someone should really role check BC, his ability is too hard to believe.
He'll probably either get tracked, killed, or checked. I think those are our options right now.
On May 27 2010 11:35 LunarDestiny wrote: Oh, I understate Zhang Liao's achievement. Instead of "holding off the 200,000 army, he fucking own Sun Quan's army.
LOL.
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Good. I'm glad this game is over.
-_-.
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On May 27 2010 12:27 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2010 12:21 Caller wrote: k its official
faction leaders officially suck ass I am pretty sure the fact that no recruit actually had to help their leader, and could actively use their abilities against them + vocally speak up in game if you let them know they were recruited made it hard. Neutrals had absolutely no reason to help leaders, at all. The moment you said neutrals could win (you made a 5th faction) it went from 1v1v1v1 to 1v1v1v1v20. :p you could have predicted this well before hand.
But at the same time, that woulda meant having 20 or so inactives in the first day because no one would care ^^. Maybe coulda been better if it was 2v2v2v2v16, which no neutral victory? or even going 3's although that makes a shorter game.
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