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THIS POST IS NOT A LIE. | ||
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Can't we all agree on eliminating Yellow Turban as our first priority and then we can have a more fair game with three faction leaders trying to accomplish their goals. As a neutral, I want to play a fair game. | ||
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On May 19 2010 08:52 johnnyspazz wrote: i think the game is over once there's only one faction left regardless of neutral members...right? Seems about right. Caller did not include a team victory for townee. | ||
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On May 19 2010 11:16 Scamp wrote: Did I miss something here? How do we know that there are DTs and Assassins in this game? Was this all just hypothetical? If so, what's the point? Wow, that is a very sneaky way to ask question. How would people answer your question without giving too much information about themselves. But by this, I am pretty sure that you are a major player (either Yellow Turban or a faction leader). | ||
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On May 19 2010 12:55 Scamp wrote: Yeah but why expect roles like all the other mafia games when this one is clearly different? Also I'm totally a major player in this game. My questions are simply way too sneaky. Then shouldn't you be staying low. A page back, people were talking about killing the big 4 and having a townee victory. | ||
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On May 20 2010 00:39 Fishball wrote: Strong Town read. Town read. Town. What town? Also, reading the posts from some of you guys, when did YT became the "bad" guys in this game? From my understanding, YT aren't bad, they are just imba. The bad guys are the ones who are constantly lying. | ||
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Yellow Turban who resides in Ping Yuan which is in the opposite direction Sun Jian (Wu) who resides in southern China Liu Bei (Shu) who resides in South West China If Caller is writing with logic, then Radfield should be a townie. | ||
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1)3 recruiter (Zhang Jiao, Zhang Bao, Zhang Liang), 0 other member [3/0] 2)1 recruiter (Zhang Jiao), 0 other member [1/0] 3)1 recruiter (Zhang Jiao), 2 other members (Zhang Bao, Zhang Liang) [1/2] The reason behind it is not likely for 2/0 and 2/1 combination is that Zhang Bao and Zhang Liang are the younger brother of Zhang Jiao. Although Zhang Bao is the 2nd brother and Zhang Liang being the youngest, they both are equal in rank and significance to the Yellow Turban Revolution. This means that Caller can not favor either younger brothers by giving them different ranks. If Yellow Turban does start off with more than one person then it would be 3/0 or 1/2. If it starts off with the 3/0 then it would be too imbalance. So my conclusion is the 1/2 formation of 1 recruiter and 2 members. This is all based off of Caller knowing his ROTK facts... | ||
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On May 21 2010 10:24 BrownBear wrote: LU BU WILL HAVE NONE OF THIS NONSENSE. But yeah. I wonder what Diao Chan's power was, because my Three Kingdoms knowledge is limited to Dynasty Warriors... :D Also, Trezeguet23... no offense but I'd rather we give the power of voting to someone who's contributed a little bit more, not just a lurker. It's a good incentive to get people to contribute, plus, we should be giving the vote to people we can analyze so that we can be reasonably sure they're neutral and not a faction-aligned person hiding amongst the inactives. Dian Chan is a fictional character created by the author of ROTK. She is characterize as a double agent who turned Lu Bu against Dong Zhuo and also a female who brings bad luck to she mate (Lu Bu). She disappeared after Dong Zhuo was killed by Lu Bu. One other variation describes that it is Guan Yu who killed her under the crescent moon (關羽月下斬貂蟬) On May 20 2010 14:18 johnnyspazz wrote: ok ill let you know if i'm still neutral by the end of tonight cause i want to kill someone for fun Did you do that? | ||
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That aside. If Tricode is telling the truth that he know the name of a faction leader, then he should be some kind of detective role. This makes him a prime target for the remaining faction leaders and he could be killed very soon. If we lose this chance of letting him kill a faction leader, then he could be dead the next day. Again, all based on the fact Tricode is telling the truth. | ||
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By giving Tricode the power to try to kill L: 1)L turns out to be a faction leader and we all benefit (except L and the dude he recruited) 2)L turns out to be a non faction leader and non Yellow Turban. Tricode is lying and he becomes our prime target which doesn't benefit Tricode at all. 3)Then there's the possibility of L being protected again which will make it clear that he is a faction leader/leader of Yellow Turban, is in a faction or Yellow Turban, or he is a medic that protected himself. In every cases, that is much better than our current plan of giving a random person the power to kill. | ||
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DarthThienAn, can you explain why you vote for L? | ||
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But if Tricode is telling the truth and L is a faction leader. We could eliminate a factor leader which worth much more. If Tricode is lying, we just kill him day after. Something to consider is how valuable of L is to us. L is in a lot of risk of being lynch and he should tell us his role and what he did with his ability. I can't believe him if he stays in the dark. | ||
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So the question is: who is the medic? | ||
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Lu Meng started as a uneducated general serving Wu (吳下阿蒙). After Zhou Yu's death, Wu was short in tacticians. Sun Quan told Lu Meng and a less important general Jiang Qin to study literature. After 3 days, they both became very intelligent (士别三日, 刮目相看). Lu Meng is famous for the death of Guan Yu. What happened was, Lu Meng faked sickness and sent a message to Guan Yu. Guan Yu got little bit over confident thinking that Wu would not attack him since Lu Meng is sick. Guan Yu then goes on attacking Wei's city guarded by Cao Ren and kicking Cao Ren's ass badly. Lu Meng, with a huge army, shows up surprising Guan Yu. Now Guan Yu is trapped in between Cao Ren and Lu Meng. What worse is that Lu Meng brought family members of Guan Yu's solders which made many Guan Yu's soldiers and two generals (Mi Fang and Fu Shi Ren defected. Guan Yu, ultimately ran out of food supply and surrendered. Guan Yu refused to surrender and was killed. Lu Meng also died shortly after (within a year I think). From all this, Lu Meng could be an insane dt since he is stupid in his early days. And I have to point out that Lu Meng lied to Guan Yu which caused Guan Yu's death. | ||
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But yeah. Although Sima Yi is Wei's top tactician, He scouted out many famous general for Wei. | ||
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Well, Caller might not follow the novel/history 100%. So we still have to find out who is lying. | ||
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On May 22 2010 04:40 Tricode wrote: Seriously I have no idea what you're talking about here. Is the movie/game/book/ or w/e that good? Like which do you recommend and if you refer me the game which system please lol? For ease, just check the wiki. | ||
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We all got the our characters in last name then first name. ex. Zhao Yun(趙雲) and not Zhao Zi Long(趙子龍) me Xu Zhu(許褚) and not Xu Zhòng kāng(許仲康) | ||
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On May 22 2010 07:41 L wrote: Fishball gave you the name for Sun Shangxian. Not Sun Ren. Sun Ren is 孫仁. She has a different name in ROTK, afaik. No man, in ROTK, the chinese novel, she is called 孫夫人. Direct Link Here Website who hosts the novel here | ||
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But the question I am asking is Sun Ren is a very less used name for her. I played tons of ROTK games, watch tons of ROTK related films, and read the novel and I still don't know when I first saw Sun Ren. That aside, giving the recruiters the list of names could have very bad in the late game. Well, I already gave mine so there is no turning back. | ||
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I ask the question again: You lynch Tricode tomorrow and he turns out to be dt (no alignment check, no sanity check). Then what now? Is L telling the truth or lying? | ||
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FUCK YOU MAN. Stop trolling about that damn chinese/taiwan singer. Give us your real character name or just say you don't want to. | ||
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After Cao Cao's death, Cao Pi succeed the throne. Cao Pi died before unifying China. Cao Rui suceeded. He also dies. Cao Fang became the Wei emperor and Sima Yi revolt against Cao Fang and took control of Wei. Also Sima Yi's decedent Sima Yan united China. | ||
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On May 22 2010 10:40 Fishball wrote: I can be recruited, but I get to escape the next cycle if I wanted. Uses, of course, is limited, so no, I'm not perma-neutral. How many uses there is/are? Please say 6 (hence the term 七擒七縱孟獲) | ||
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On May 22 2010 10:47 Fishball wrote: After reading so many pages regarding our current situation, I'd still say stick with Tricode's original proposal, then kill Tricode if things did not go as planned. I DON'T CARE who is lying. It is all a distraction. Just kill them one by one if need be. Sad to say for such reckless plan, I agree. At least it gives us a decent chance of killing a faction leader which benefit all of us except for the faction leader and his recruits. | ||
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OK, people who haven't name claimed: 6. Ohn 8. Iaaan 10. BloodyCobbler (his absence from all of this is actually kinda confusing) 11. MyHeroNoob 24. Jugan | ||
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OK, people who haven't name claimed: 6. Ohn 8. Iaaan 11. MyHeroNoob 24. Jugan | ||
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Posts made in the last week: 85 | ||
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OK, people who haven't name claimed: 6. Ohn 8. Iaaan 10. BloodyCobbler (his absence from all of this is actually kinda confusing) 24. Jugan | ||
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Updating the chart made by Radfield: OK, people who haven't name claimed: 6. Ohn 8. Iaaan 11. MyHeroNoob 24. Jugan Contradiction: DarthTheinAn claims Ma Chao first (after five page of trolling us) TwoToneTerran claims he is Ma Chao DarthTheinAn responds that he is fishing | ||
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OK, people who haven't name claimed: 6. Ohn 8. Iaaan 11. MyHeroNoob 24. Jugan Contradictions: 1)Fishball claims Meng Huo (p.47) HyHeroNoob claims Meng Huo (p.50) 2)DarthTheinAn claims Ma Chao after five page of trolling us (p.47) TwoToneTerran claims Ma Chao (p.49) DarthTheinAn responds that he was fishing(p.49) On May 22 2010 10:30 Fishball wrote: I wonder who was the first to bring up the idea of Name and Roleclaiming 2-3 days ago? Hmm... I think it was me. Also, stop saying that I'm MIA ffs. I have a full time job that requires me to work from 7-4pm weekdays. I also go to the gym 4 days a week and am back home usually around 6 MST. I'm Meng Huo. I get to escape from recruitment. | ||
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On May 22 2010 18:25 LunarDestiny wrote: Updating the chart made by Radfield: OK, people who haven't name claimed: 6. Ohn 8. Iaaan 24. Jugan Contradictions: 1)Fishball claims Meng Huo (p.47) MyHeroNoob claims Meng Huo (p.50) 2)DarthThienAn claims Ma Chao after five page of trolling us (p.47) TwoToneTerran claims Ma Chao (p.49) DarthThienAn responds that he was fishing(p.49) | ||
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Fishball also said his ability is to escape from recruitment after he was recruited. | ||
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I am saying if MyHeroNoob already posted his role pm, he might as well post in its entirety to prove his innocence. I also recall seeing someone posted his role pm. | ||
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6. Ohn 8. Iaaan 24. Jugan Contradictions: 1)Fishball claims Meng Huo (p.47) MyHeroNoob claims Meng Huo (p.50) 2)DarthThienAn claims Ma Chao after five page of trolling us (p.47) TwoToneTerran claims Ma Chao (p.49) DarthThienAn responds that he was fishing(p.49) DarthThienAn refers to his hints(p.45) (Zhou Jie Lun and Xiao Yu) to claim he's ZhouYu(p.51) + Show Spoiler [Fishball and MyHeroNoob] + On May 22 2010 10:30 Fishball wrote: I wonder who was the first to bring up the idea of Name and Roleclaiming 2-3 days ago? Hmm... I think it was me. Also, stop saying that I'm MIA ffs. I have a full time job that requires me to work from 7-4pm weekdays. I also go to the gym 4 days a week and am back home usually around 6 MST. I'm Meng Huo. I get to escape from recruitment. + Show Spoiler [DarthThienAn and TwoToneTerran] + On May 22 2010 21:18 DarthThienAn wrote: To be honest, the situation concerning me is irrelevant. We need people to nameclaim and see where the contradictions come up. I don't know the first thing about the Three Kingdoms except what I've been reading on Wikipedia. So the whole "first five general that comes to your head", well I guess that's true. Stumbled upon the article and figured, Caller already had a couple, why not one more =D. I already explained my reasoning as to why I did what I did. I took Caller's "trolling is encouraged" to heart, first of all, but then decided I wanted to get more information for the town. I intentionally name and roleclaimed ahead of time to Radfield, then BB, so that when the time came, they could clear my name. Since this will say nothing about my role (I don't think), I'll claim for real this time: I am Zhou Jie Lun + Xiao Yu at the same time o.o o.o I'm Zhou Yu. I look really good and I'm great at music. And I'm really jealous of Radfield and am destined to die. Says Wikipedia anyway. | ||
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1)Fishball mentioned he ability has limited use and MyHeroNoob did not say anything about limited use or unlimited use. 2)MyHeroNoob even quoted his role pm or he is making the role pm up. 3) FiahBall claimed Meng Huo first and MyHeroNoob claimed Meng Huosecond In the case of DarthTheinAn and TwoToneTerran, the former was lying at first about the Ma Chao stuff but switched to Zhou Yu after TwoToneTerran exposed DarthTheinAn. | ||
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Remaining 3: 6. Ohn 8. Iaaan 24. Jugan | ||
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On May 23 2010 02:42 Radfield wrote: Trezguet has claimed in thread to be Cao Cao's son, can't remember the name. His ability is to kill any leader who tries to recruit him. Him claiming Vig to L seems awful strange, unless he was just fishing for information. Cao Cao's son is Cao Pi which Trezguet name claimed. Cao Pi was never part of another faction in the history of ROTK in both novel(fictional) and recorded history. However, in the PS2/PSP game Warrior Orochi (Dynasty Warrior and Samurai Warrior fusion), Cao Pi worked for Orochi who is the main villain of the game (similar to Zhang Jiao in this Mafia game) and revolted against Orochi. Since Warrior Orochi is a fairly recent game (released in 2007) and a very popular in the Dynasty Warrior franchise, it is likely that Caller also played the game. Just want to state my thought process. You guys can judge the likeliness of this. | ||
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Remaining 2: 6. Ohn 8. Iaaan | ||
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But it could help the the Ohn and Iaaan in their name claiming. | ||
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Bill Murray - Yuan Shao He said his ability is a poor general which isn't historically true. Yuan Shao is a little bit above average general. BloodyCobbler - Huang Gai Huang Gai plays a much smaller role than other character claimed. But the movie/battle "Battle of Red Cliff" is the most famous battle in ROTK and Huang Gai plays a significant role in it. Trezequet23 - Cao Pi (copied from previous so this is more in depth) Cao Cao's son is Cao Pi which Trezguet name claimed. Cao Pi was never part of another faction in the history of ROTK in both novel(fictional) and recorded history. However, in the PS2/PSP game Warrior Orochi (Dynasty Warrior and Samurai Warrior fusion), Cao Pi worked for Orochi who is the main villain of the game (similar to Zhang Jiao in this Mafia game) and revolted against Orochi. Since Warrior Orochi is a fairly recent game (released in 2007) and a very popular in the Dynasty Warrior franchise, it is likely that Caller also played the game. Futhermore, Cao Pi automatically getting recruited into Wei is questionable. If I was Caller, I would pick the Sun Jian->Sun Ce->Sun Quan succeeding process since all three play significant role in history. Cao Pi didn't do much for Wei accept being the emperor. It is also likely that Caller picked a couple of minor roles since he said he randomize the process. Lastly, it is sad to say my character (Xu Zhu) acts mostly as the bodyguard for Cao Cao. His most significant achievement is his duel against Ma Chao when Cao Cao is attacking the Xi Liang which earned him the nickname "Crazy Tiger". | ||
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Contradictions: 1)Fishball claims Meng Huo (p.47) MyHeroNoob claims Meng Huo (p.50) 2)DarthThienAn claims Ma Chao after five page of trolling us (p.47) TwoToneTerran claims Ma Chao (p.49) DarthThienAn responds that he was fishing(p.49) DarthThienAn refers to his hints(p.45) (Zhou Jie Lun and Xiao Yu) to claim he's ZhouYu(p.51) 3)Trezeguet23 claims Cao Pi(p.43) Iaaan claims Cao Pi(p.56) + Show Spoiler [Fishball and MyHeroNoob] + On May 22 2010 10:30 Fishball wrote: I wonder who was the first to bring up the idea of Name and Roleclaiming 2-3 days ago? Hmm... I think it was me. Also, stop saying that I'm MIA ffs. I have a full time job that requires me to work from 7-4pm weekdays. I also go to the gym 4 days a week and am back home usually around 6 MST. I'm Meng Huo. I get to escape from recruitment. + Show Spoiler [DarthThienAn and TwoToneTerran] + On May 22 2010 21:18 DarthThienAn wrote: To be honest, the situation concerning me is irrelevant. We need people to nameclaim and see where the contradictions come up. I don't know the first thing about the Three Kingdoms except what I've been reading on Wikipedia. So the whole "first five general that comes to your head", well I guess that's true. Stumbled upon the article and figured, Caller already had a couple, why not one more =D. I already explained my reasoning as to why I did what I did. I took Caller's "trolling is encouraged" to heart, first of all, but then decided I wanted to get more information for the town. I intentionally name and roleclaimed ahead of time to Radfield, then BB, so that when the time came, they could clear my name. Since this will say nothing about my role (I don't think), I'll claim for real this time: I am Zhou Jie Lun + Xiao Yu at the same time o.o o.o I'm Zhou Yu. I look really good and I'm great at music. And I'm really jealous of Radfield and am destined to die. Says Wikipedia anyway. + Show Spoiler [Trezeguet23 and Iaaan] + On May 23 2010 11:03 Iaaan wrote: This man is lying, I am Cao Pi, the son of Cao Cao. His guess about Cao Pi's abilities is also wrong, if I was recruited by Cao Cao, and he died, I would take his place. That doesn't matter anymore tho, since Cao Cao is dead. Just a disclaimer, I haven't read the last like 20 pages so I have no idea whats going on. I was just skimming quickly and saw this, I don't know whats been going on, only that Trez is bullshitting. I wont have time to read the thread today or tmrw, which I apologies for, but if you have any questions, ask. | ||
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1)Fishball claims Meng Huo (p.47) MyHeroNoob claims Meng Huo (p.50) Fishball unclaims Meng Huo (p.60) 2)DarthThienAn claims Ma Chao after five page of trolling us (p.47) TwoToneTerran claims Ma Chao (p.49) DarthThienAn responds that he was fishing(p.49) DarthThienAn refers to his hints(p.45) (Zhou Jie Lun and Xiao Yu) to claim he's ZhouYu(p.51) 3)Trezeguet23 claims Cao Pi(p.43) Iaaan claims Cao Pi(p.56) + Show Spoiler [Fishball and MyHeroNoob] + On May 22 2010 10:30 Fishball wrote: I wonder who was the first to bring up the idea of Name and Roleclaiming 2-3 days ago? Hmm... I think it was me. Also, stop saying that I'm MIA ffs. I have a full time job that requires me to work from 7-4pm weekdays. I also go to the gym 4 days a week and am back home usually around 6 MST. I'm Meng Huo. I get to escape from recruitment. + Show Spoiler [DarthThienAn and TwoToneTerran] + On May 22 2010 21:18 DarthThienAn wrote: To be honest, the situation concerning me is irrelevant. We need people to nameclaim and see where the contradictions come up. I don't know the first thing about the Three Kingdoms except what I've been reading on Wikipedia. So the whole "first five general that comes to your head", well I guess that's true. Stumbled upon the article and figured, Caller already had a couple, why not one more =D. I already explained my reasoning as to why I did what I did. I took Caller's "trolling is encouraged" to heart, first of all, but then decided I wanted to get more information for the town. I intentionally name and roleclaimed ahead of time to Radfield, then BB, so that when the time came, they could clear my name. Since this will say nothing about my role (I don't think), I'll claim for real this time: I am Zhou Jie Lun + Xiao Yu at the same time o.o o.o I'm Zhou Yu. I look really good and I'm great at music. And I'm really jealous of Radfield and am destined to die. Says Wikipedia anyway. + Show Spoiler [Trezeguet23 and Iaaan] + On May 23 2010 11:03 Iaaan wrote: This man is lying, I am Cao Pi, the son of Cao Cao. His guess about Cao Pi's abilities is also wrong, if I was recruited by Cao Cao, and he died, I would take his place. That doesn't matter anymore tho, since Cao Cao is dead. Just a disclaimer, I haven't read the last like 20 pages so I have no idea whats going on. I was just skimming quickly and saw this, I don't know whats been going on, only that Trez is bullshitting. I wont have time to read the thread today or tmrw, which I apologies for, but if you have any questions, ask. Order of name claim (Bold is certain) (contradictory roles underlined): 1.Last Romantic (Cao Cao) 2.Barth (Diao Chan) 3.~Opz~ (Lu Bu) 4.Abenson (Taishi Ci) 5.Hesmyrr (Lu Xun) 6.Tricode (Lu Meng) 7.XeliN (Jiang Wei) 8.BrownBear (Zhao Yun) 9.Radfield (Zhuge Liang) 10.LunarDestiny (Xu Zhu) 11.Bill Murray (Yuan Shao) 12.Trezeguet23 (Cao Pi) 13.Falcynn (Sima Yi) 14.Scamp (Guan Yu) 15.BloodyC0bbler (Huang Gai) 16.johnnyspazz (Zhang Liao) 17.TwoToneTerran (Ma Chao) 18.MyHeroNoob (Meng Huo) 19.DarthThienAn (Zhou Yu) 20.L (Sun Quan) 21.Jugan (Zhang Fei) 22.Iaaan (Cao Pi) 23.ohN (Pang Tong) 24.FishBall (unknown) . | ||
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I don't think there is any mistake. I did not take account of hints of DarthAnThien. I did not take account of reason why people don't want to name claim earlier than they had. | ||
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Only Liu Bei and Zhang Jiao who are reluctant to truthfully name claim would post later and try not a repeat a name posted before. There is a high possibility that Liu Bei and Zhang Jiao did name claimed early but they got away with it since there are TONS of important characters in ROTK. | ||
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The reason is they both claim to have the ability to escape recruitment. Think about it this way: If either is a faction leader, they WANT Zhang Jiao to recruit them which will kill Zhang Jiao instantly. Again, I am saying they are not likely to be the third faction leader. I have no idea if either is Zhang Jiao or not. | ||
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My argument why it is unlikely to Liu Bei contacted his recruit is there is more con than pro by contacting his recruit. By now, Liu Bei should only have one recruit which does not give him significant control over the voting. By contacting his recruit, the recruit might not be loyal to him 100% since there is a chance he would be recruited by YT after. By contacting his recruit, it gives away his identity which would be bad if YT recruited this person or this person reveal his lord's identity. It is better for faction leader to contact his recruits in the mid to late game where he can greatly influence the voting. | ||
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Copied from page 60: On May 24 2010 14:18 LunarDestiny wrote: Bill Murray, I think Fishball and MyHeroNoob who name claimed Meng Huo are not likely to be the third faction leader (not saying that they are not likely to be Zhang Jiao (leader of Yellow Turban)). The reason is they both claim to have the ability to escape recruitment. Think about it this way: If either is a faction leader, they WANT Zhang Jiao to recruit them which will kill Zhang Jiao instantly. Again, I am saying they are not likely to be the third faction leader. I have no idea if either is Zhang Jiao or not. On May 24 2010 14:29 LunarDestiny wrote: Oh shit, I just came up with a good idea. Abenson (YT killer) whould target either MyHeroNoob or Fishball since they are suspicious. They are also not likely to be a faction leader. They are also not likely to know they are recruited by Liu Bei since it is unlikely that Liu Bei contacted them. My argument why it is unlikely to Liu Bei contacted his recruit is there is more con than pro by contacting his recruit. By now, Liu Bei should only have one recruit which does not give him significant control over the voting. By contacting his recruit, the recruit might not be loyal to him 100% since there is a chance he would be recruited by YT after. By contacting his recruit, it gives away his identity which would be bad if YT recruited this person or this person reveal his lord's identity. It is better for faction leader to contact his recruits in the mid to late game where he can greatly influence the voting. | ||
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My role (Xu Zhu) sucks so I can't do anything. | ||
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1)Fishball claims Meng Huo (p.47) MyHeroNoob claims Meng Huo (p.50) Fishball unclaims Meng Huo (p.60) 2)DarthThienAn claims Ma Chao after five page of trolling us (p.47) TwoToneTerran claims Ma Chao (p.49) DarthThienAn responds that he was fishing(p.49) DarthThienAn refers to his hints(p.45) (Zhou Jie Lun and Xiao Yu) to claim he's ZhouYu(p.51) 3)Trezeguet23 claims Cao Pi(p.43) Iaaan claims Cao Pi(p.56) + Show Spoiler [Fishball and MyHeroNoob] + On May 22 2010 10:30 Fishball wrote: I wonder who was the first to bring up the idea of Name and Roleclaiming 2-3 days ago? Hmm... I think it was me. Also, stop saying that I'm MIA ffs. I have a full time job that requires me to work from 7-4pm weekdays. I also go to the gym 4 days a week and am back home usually around 6 MST. I'm Meng Huo. I get to escape from recruitment. On May 24 2010 13:02 Fishball wrote: Ok, got some free time now so here it goes. I am not Meng Huo. I claimed Meng Huo for only one reason; To avoid being recruited. Who would want to recruit a player that does not have any special abilities besides deserting his own faction? I know the Three Kingdoms very well, which allows me to come up with this role. Guess what, Meng Huo with the exact same ability I came up with actually exist in this game (assuming that MyHeroNoob is also telling the truth, and did not "make up" the same role like I did). + Show Spoiler [DarthThienAn and TwoToneTerran] + On May 22 2010 21:18 DarthThienAn wrote: To be honest, the situation concerning me is irrelevant. We need people to nameclaim and see where the contradictions come up. I don't know the first thing about the Three Kingdoms except what I've been reading on Wikipedia. So the whole "first five general that comes to your head", well I guess that's true. Stumbled upon the article and figured, Caller already had a couple, why not one more =D. I already explained my reasoning as to why I did what I did. I took Caller's "trolling is encouraged" to heart, first of all, but then decided I wanted to get more information for the town. I intentionally name and roleclaimed ahead of time to Radfield, then BB, so that when the time came, they could clear my name. Since this will say nothing about my role (I don't think), I'll claim for real this time: I am Zhou Jie Lun + Xiao Yu at the same time o.o o.o I'm Zhou Yu. I look really good and I'm great at music. And I'm really jealous of Radfield and am destined to die. Says Wikipedia anyway. + Show Spoiler [Trezeguet23 and Iaaan] + On May 23 2010 11:03 Iaaan wrote: This man is lying, I am Cao Pi, the son of Cao Cao. His guess about Cao Pi's abilities is also wrong, if I was recruited by Cao Cao, and he died, I would take his place. That doesn't matter anymore tho, since Cao Cao is dead. Just a disclaimer, I haven't read the last like 20 pages so I have no idea whats going on. I was just skimming quickly and saw this, I don't know whats been going on, only that Trez is bullshitting. I wont have time to read the thread today or tmrw, which I apologies for, but if you have any questions, ask. Order of name claim (Bold is certain) (contradictory roles underlined): 1.Last Romantic (Cao Cao) 2.Barth (Diao Chan) 3.~Opz~ (Lu Bu) 4.Abenson (Taishi Ci) 5.Hesmyrr (Lu Xun) 6.Tricode (Lu Meng) 7.XeliN (Jiang Wei) 8.BrownBear (Zhao Yun) 9.Radfield (Zhuge Liang) 10.LunarDestiny (Xu Zhu) 11.Bill Murray (Yuan Shao) 12.Trezeguet23 (Cao Pi) 13.Falcynn (Sima Yi) 14.Scamp (Guan Yu) 15.BloodyC0bbler (Huang Gai) 16.johnnyspazz (Zhang Liao) 17.TwoToneTerran (Ma Chao) 18.MyHeroNoob (Meng Huo) 19.DarthThienAn (Zhou Yu) 20.L (Sun Quan) 21.Jugan (Zhang Fei) 22.Iaaan (Cao Pi) 23.ohN (Pang Tong) 24.FishBall (unknown) | ||
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Trezeguet23, sorry to say but I got to believe that Tricode is telling the truth since he has good history for day 2. If he is lying, he probably will be one of our target in the future. | ||
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My votes go to him to lynch Trezeguet23. I also want to hear Trezeguet23's defense on his innocence if he choose to do so. | ||
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I am now offering my one time use ability to town to clear this shit up. As Xu Zhu, I have the ability to day kill once. Now discuss who should I go for given we agreed to lynch Trezguet23. | ||
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On May 25 2010 14:30 Bill Murray wrote: Guys, I hate to break it to you, but I have an ability I have yet to mention except in passing. I am a busdriver. Last night, I bussed Trezequet23 with Scamp as a result of a plan I had with Jugan. Scamp must be the YT leader. I am affiliated with noone yet, or haven't been told that I've been recruited by Caller. You can kill me if you all don't trust me, as I am completely oblivious to caring the way this game has gone. I really want a neutral victory, so you can kill me to figure out that I'm not lying to you. We need to cut off the head of this beast by getting rid of Scamp. The only way that this should be wrong is if Scamp and Trez are both YT, but I'm 100% sure Scamp is the YT leader if the night has gone the way I am understanding it to have gone. You all really really really need to believe me on this. The way I've understood this to have gone they are both YT, but Scamp NOT Trez is the leader. | ||
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On May 26 2010 05:41 Bill Murray wrote: no, it's 4 everyone starts with a bodyguard I don't consider having an extra night life as a bodyguard. | ||
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On May 26 2010 05:46 DarthThienAn wrote: @BM, where does it say that leaders start with bodyguards? where it the evidence that bodyguards exist? He is bsing. Last Romantic (Cao Cao) died alone. L (Sun Quan) died with his recruit Hesmyrr (Lu Xun). | ||
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I take no offense for you to suspect my name claim because I would had done it myself if someone else name claim Xu Zhu since the guy is pretty much a bodyguard for Cao Cao... On May 23 2010 06:22 LunarDestiny wrote: Aside from Fishball and his refusal to cooperate: Bill Murray - Yuan Shao He said his ability is a poor general which isn't historically true. Yuan Shao is a little bit above average general. BloodyCobbler - Huang Gai Huang Gai plays a much smaller role than other character claimed. But the movie/battle "Battle of Red Cliff" is the most famous battle in ROTK and Huang Gai plays a significant role in it. Trezequet23 - Cao Pi (copied from previous so this is more in depth) Cao Cao's son is Cao Pi which Trezguet name claimed. Cao Pi was never part of another faction in the history of ROTK in both novel(fictional) and recorded history. However, in the PS2/PSP game Warrior Orochi (Dynasty Warrior and Samurai Warrior fusion), Cao Pi worked for Orochi who is the main villain of the game (similar to Zhang Jiao in this Mafia game) and revolted against Orochi. Since Warrior Orochi is a fairly recent game (released in 2007) and a very popular in the Dynasty Warrior franchise, it is likely that Caller also played the game. Futhermore, Cao Pi automatically getting recruited into Wei is questionable. If I was Caller, I would pick the Sun Jian->Sun Ce->Sun Quan succeeding process since all three play significant role in history. Cao Pi didn't do much for Wei accept being the emperor. It is also likely that Caller picked a couple of minor roles since he said he randomize the process. Lastly, it is sad to say my character (Xu Zhu) acts mostly as the bodyguard for Cao Cao. His most significant achievement is his duel against Ma Chao when Cao Cao is attacking the Xi Liang which earned him the nickname "Crazy Tiger". | ||
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##Kill Trezequet23 So the army owner should go for another suspect. | ||
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On May 26 2010 09:47 johnnyspazz wrote: YEAH GO KILL TREZEQUET23! i got a worthless ability since wu is dead Aren't you Zhang Liao? | ||
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BM (yeah he lied a lot) also said if I try to kill him, I would die too. So I can't kill him also. | ||
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Change ##Kill Trezequet23 to ##Kill johnnyspazz was my action. | ||
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On May 26 2010 10:29 Caller wrote: ANY ACTIONS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN RESOLVED WILL TAKE PLACE WHEN I GET BACK This quote scared me. So I thought time for me to make change is draining down. | ||
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Change #Kill johnnyspazz to ##Kill Bill Murray I will succeed to die gloriously. | ||
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-7 Shu -6 Wei -6 Wu -5 Other It doesn't matter much | ||
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Last Romantic mentioned he had 2 night lives but we are not 100% sure if it works that way. Yeah, my decision is final this time. Keeping Bill Murray alive would only cause more confusion in the future (look at the mess he created). My objective to use my one time day kill is to eliminate confusion so night action people have a easier time. As it stands, I will kill Bill Murray and Fishball lynch Trezequet23. | ||
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Trezequet23 will die by the lynch when Fishball exercise his right. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler [post 1(p.69] + On May 25 2010 20:01 Bill Murray wrote: I've already said that's what I'm doing... I was trying to help until I got confused as fuck when it came back that he was DT checked. Either Tricode or XeliN is lying one or the other on that, but that's irrelevant if you look at it from a broader perspective rad. On May 25 2010 20:10 Bill Murray wrote: I have an idea. Daykill me to prove that I am telling the truth about Trez not being the leader. I am really wanting a neutral victory, and that is why I have been posting considerably less since my recruitment. I am not going to hand you all the leader on a silver platter, but just trust me on this Daykill me, doubletap trez in the night (to keep YT numbers down), and then try to hunt the YT leader and the green faction leader. That is the best course of action for the town that I really really really wanted to win before I got recruited to YT On May 25 2010 20:11 Bill Murray wrote: I am going to sleep. Trust me on this guys. Give your armies to Radfield (fishball is probably green) On May 26 2010 05:18 Bill Murray wrote: just kill me and you'll see that you can trust me and that i am yt the yt will not die with trez, he isn't the leader, he is one of the 2 they started with the pm he sent me was sort of ambiguous on the recruitment from the brothers, and i have yet to have to vote for a recruit. i am certain that he is not the leader, though. kill me right now to prove that I am YT and am not lying to you all On May 26 2010 05:44 Bill Murray wrote: i would bet anything that if you daykilled darthThienAn that he would be green On May 26 2010 06:03 Bill Murray wrote: you all have to admire what i'm doing, though, not even KNOWING i'm yt i have no idea if i am or if i'm not. if trez dies and isn't YT then i'm still not even cleared from not being YT myself because someone else could have non-inform recruited me. trez also could have been lying, so even if he is YT i am not 100% certain to be YT myself because Caller didn't tell me shit. I made up the entire story about bussing people, LunarDestiny, so ignore that it was a ploy to try and save what I believed to be my faction's ass, and was spoiled by XeliN :p On May 26 2010 06:13 Bill Murray wrote: can you read? my real power is in relation to the day lynch if you shan't lynch me i shan't use it when you use it trez i will show you whats up if you dayvig me i will kill the person attacking me On May 26 2010 13:38 Bill Murray wrote: Hey, could you keep me alive just because I won't be able to play in the next mafia game? I feel like I provide some fun, no? I'm also not sure if I'm affiliated with anyone. lynch trez for all i care tbh i'm honestly trying to help so i'm kinda mad about this On May 26 2010 13:50 Bill Murray wrote: i wasnt lying about my ability or the brothers things the bus is the only fabrication which was to save my faction now i am trying to save my own ass On May 26 2010 16:03 Bill Murray wrote: from page 70 onward i have been nothing but honest On May 26 2010 16:09 Bill Murray wrote: i am not contradicting myself at all On May 26 2010 16:12 Bill Murray wrote: i understand that you all view me as a threat to your town, and that is the reason you're doing this. i am ok with the way you all are playing, but you all are refusing to open your eyes to the big picture. with me out of the way, and with trez dying, there will be an easy road to victory for Shu. I suggest hitting/lynching if the hit doesnt work Trez to see if Me/Tricode are even YT at all. If we are not, if Trez is not, then the town is benefited from keeping us alive. If Trez comes back YT then I understand you all killing me I only say this because I don't want to die as a neutral player. I got no PM from Caller. Please reconsider LD | ||
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Even if Bill Murray turns out to be a neutral which he now claims (very hard to believe). It is very hard to comprehend his earlier actions of claiming to be in another faction. Either Bill Murray is the master mafia player or he WAS VERY, VERY CONFUSED. | ||
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On May 24 2010 09:39 flamewheel91 wrote: I still, still have no idea whats going on. Did Caller messed up again. I thought I went for Bill Murray. | ||
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On May 25 2010 06:49 Caller wrote: DAY Jugan was just minding his own business when suddenly some guy ran over and punched him in the face. Enraged, Jugan took his blade and swirled it around, killing hundreds of his own troops. But even the sacrifice of so many of his allies was not enough to stop Jugan from getting annihilated by a single man. Jugan, aka Zhang Fei the Bold, has fallen. I still can't believe BC who claims Huang Gai can kill Zhang Fei. 81 is no where near 97. | ||
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My 2nd amendment (johnnyspazz->Bill Murray) was made after Caller frozen the day actions. On May 26 2010 09:47 johnnyspazz wrote: YEAH GO KILL TREZEQUET23! i got a worthless ability since wu is dead It seems johnnyspazz wasn't lying about his role either since Zhang Liao is famous for holding 200,000 troops led by Sun Quan with 7000 troops defending He Fei. Should look at Johnnyspazz's other posts for some information. | ||
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Battle of Hefei After Cao Cao lost the Battle of Red Cliffs in 208, he placed Zhang Liao, Yue Jin and Li Dian at Hefei with 7,000 men to guard against advances of the southern warlord Sun Quan. Soon Sun Quan led a much larger force upon Hefei (approximately 200,000 men). Under instructions from Cao Cao, Zhang Liao and Li Dian picked 800 vanguard troops to deter the enemy at the Battle of Xiaoyao Jin (逍遙津). As dawn broke, the force moved out with Zhang Liao in the forefront. The general galloped into the enemy ranks and single-handedly killed hundreds of men. Proclaiming his own name, Zhang Liao then went straight for Sun Quan, who sought refuge on top of a knoll. Seeing that Zhang Liao had much fewer men than himself with only 300 men following, Sun Quan ordered his troops to surround the enemy. Leading scores of men, Zhang Liao soon broke through the encirclement. Those who were still caught within then cried, "General, are you going to forsake us?" Spinning around, Zhang Liao rode into the circle again and rescued his men, by when it was already noontime. Sun Quan's demoralized soldiers then retreated for the time being. Returning to the city, Zhang Liao supervised the reinforcement of the defense works. After two weeks of siege, Sun Quan could not take Hefei and had to turn back. Zhang Liao then led his troops on pursuit. On a number of occasions, they almost captured Sun Quan. Cao Cao was very pleased and promoted Zhang Liao to the East-Conquering General (征東將軍). Guess where the movie "300" rip off of? | ||
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On May 24 2010 09:39 flamewheel91 wrote: I still, still, still, still have no idea whats going on. | ||
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On May 12 2010 15:58 Bill Murray wrote: i promise to play as poorly as humanly possible | ||
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Liu Bei: Guan Yu, Zhang Fei. Cao Cao: Xiahou Dun, Xiahou Yuan. Sun Quan: Zhou Yu, Lu Meng. Zhang Jiao: Zhang Bao, Zhang Liang. EDIT:and eliminate Yellow Turban Faction. | ||
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Neutral should instead advertise themselves hoping to be recruited. | ||
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You are Xu Zhu, a whirlwind of blades! You are such a badass that you can just go up and kill anyone you want in the day time. One use only. | ||
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