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On June 23 2010 05:47 ~OpZ~ wrote: ...Noticed Radfield suddenly got a lot more votes....
Possible scum gamble to give Radfield mayor? Dun Dun Duuuuuuun
THey're not only more votes, but they're votes from people who have no reasoning.
Lol @ Abenson reading everything in 5 minutes and now having a "grasp" on the game, and at the same time voting for Radfield... nothing against him it's just the people that are voting for him are looking scummy
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I also like how a number of people who "read the thread" didn't read that we should also be considering a majority lynch. Like I said from the VERY BEGINNING please post someone you think should be lynched... the elected MoM should be considering the majority when deciding the person he wishes to lynch.
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On June 23 2010 06:18 Hesmyrr wrote: I'll be comfortable with town pushing YellowInk or Roffles as replacement candidate, but you guys gotta be fast. I would also like obligatory explanation post coming in this thread when someone casts his/her vote. In fact can someone make a list dividing players into 'explained vote / unexplained vote'? I would do it myself, but I don't have any time today from now.
Working on it. Give me a few...
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Current List:
Subversion - No Vote
Jugan - No Vote
stormtemplar - No Vote
Jayme - Amber[LighT]
+ Show Spoiler +On June 23 2010 01:57 Jayme wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2010 23:42 DCLXVI wrote:On June 22 2010 21:13 Amber[LighT] wrote: Even if radfield is going to be inactive I can communicate with him regularly. If and when we need to pardon we will use him. I'm going out on a limb here to stress that I will probably be the best person for the position. I am also asking the detective to IMMEDIATELY check me. Do we have a detective? The role list says Detective: See Legilimency and Occlumency. Legilimency is listed as a mafia spell. From the way medic is defined (see episky, a blue spell) it seems that there is no actual detective that can role check. Also, can people have multiple spells? Occlumency seems kind of useless unless people can have multiple spells. I am not sure why the mafia would want to try to find out everyone's character. Obviously they would like to know who harry is so they don't kill him, but other than that it only seems to help them guess at blue roles, maybe. (this is assuming that the mafia already have a safe name list) So is it true that only mafia get the red spells and only townies get the blue spells? It would make no sense if the town didn't have at least some of the "red" spells. I think the only actual difference between the blue spell and the red spells is only the "moral compass" aspect of it. The town would be extraordinarily weak without a legilimancer at all. Someone with occlumency can block that obviously but if this game is themed based on actual book events the number of people that should have occlumency is very very small. I don't see why people wouldn't have multiple spells. I'm voting for Amber[Light] for now. He's really the only candidate that has any plan what so ever that we can follow through so at least we have some sort of direction to go once twilight/night hits. Anything is better than running around without heads on straight.
acrossfivejulys - Amber[LighT]
Nominated me...
+ Show Spoiler +On June 23 2010 00:04 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 00:00 Hesmyrr wrote:On June 22 2010 08:03 Hesmyrr wrote: Also I'm not sure I can maintain this level of activity for future days yet, so I would like to turn Radfield's mayoral proposal down. In interest of proposing more candidates, I would like to nominate Roffles. He jumped straight into discussing spell mechanics, including whether AK was block able or not, which I think is type of discussion mafia would shy away from a little. I do not know scum hunting abilities of most players however, so I would appreciate if more people voiced who they support. Guys, you are missing this post. acrossfivejulys -> Amber[light]. AFJ, what specific part of amber[light]'s post did you like? It is in responsibility of nominee to also give a reason for nomination so if nominated is mafia he/she can't go like "oh I picked someone in random lol". We need to know if the nomination is mafia push, or legit pro-town reasoning. Well if you'd taken the time to read my original post nominating amber, you'd see that I said (at a time where not much about players was known) that he seemed to be posting pro town, analyzing the rules and such. On June 22 2010 03:22 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:I'll go ahead and nominate amber[light] for mayor since he seems to be talking sense at this point. I'd suggest not to nominate radfield because frankly he played pretty badly and was inactive for long stretches last game. Amber, why don't you post a plan you'd carry out as mayor, including first lynch? On June 22 2010 23:52 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: I'm voting amber[light]. I'm a little worried about him because he is insisting that he be role checked when he could hypothetically be the godfather. Still, though, he seems like the best candidate.
johnnyspazz - Amber[LighT]
+ Show Spoiler +On June 23 2010 06:43 johnnyspazz wrote: well darnit, if i change my vote from amber to you yellow, then radfield wins MoM and no one wants that sorry yellowink
lakrismamma - Amber[LighT]
+ Show Spoiler +On June 22 2010 17:26 lakrismamma wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2010 11:44 johnnyspazz wrote:
It's true that bodyguards are a little less useful thanks to Bus Drivers, but I remember that mafia aligned Drivers can't exactly communicated with the mafia team. I think your hypothetical situation will never happen in this setup if the Driver can't communicate with other mafia. I think mayor/pardoner is a lot safer than you think. We also have to remember we have both Bodyguards and Aurors. I don't think mafia would ever risk attacking mayor/pardoner since it's 50/50 if they get protected and mafia's identity is revealed.
Do you think it's better to have blues or greens as elected officials? I would prefer power roles elected. Where did you read that the busdriver cant comunicate with mafia? I could only find "The bus driver can be mafia, town, or 3rd party." I think you are right about the Minister is to well protected to attack though. Also since it is getting closer to election and someones gotta be first im going to vote for Amber[LighT] he has the clearest (only?) plan so far and seems like a good leader.
Radfield - Radfield
+ Show Spoiler +On June 23 2010 03:52 Radfield wrote:@hesmyrr This is exactly why I nominated you. You just called upon like 6 people to clarify and back-up their posts. You make good quality posts, and are active in a great way. You played hard for your 'team'(townies) in callers game, and played well. @roffles: We do actually need to start discussing the lynch, because the day ends in 4-5 hours. Unless you feel confident that the mayor will make the proper decision Show nested quote + I will still run on my own if Radfield doesn't feel like he wants the position as pardoner. Like I said I think I can function much better as the MoM so we need to make sure the votes are in line to have myself as no. 1, and radfield as no. 2
I'm fine being the Pardoner. I can certainly guarantee that I won't pardon anyone. Also, to clarify my activity levels: I will be active in the thread, and I'll be actively following everything that's going on. I just can't devote a ton of time to searching through posts hunting for mafia. I will still be doing this, but not to the extent I would like(It's not like I'm just going to go AFK this game). Whomever gets elected as mayor, DOES need to be doing this though, and needs to be actively leading the town. I think Amber[light] so far seems like a good candidate, Yellowink would probably also do a good job (Hesmyrr would probably do a good job as well, but he has a shaky schedule). I will vote for myself for the moment(in an effort to be pardoner), but I'll definitely change my vote to Amber[light] if needed to ensure he gets mayor. I think he's the best candidate. Also, checking both mayor and pardoner is a good idea, as it gives a measure of credibility to the pair(they can't both be godfather). However, here is BM's quote on Legilimancy: Show nested quote + Legilimency: The ability to read someone's mind. I will give you a PM on their thoughts, and you may use that information to deduce what character the person may be.
I don't think we'll be getting quite as accurate results as we are assuming. Seems like we get more of a clue as to the persons identity, then any kind of alignment check. If this is the case, it may be more difficult to determine alignment than previously thought, and depending on how familiar one is with the books, you might need to post the 'thoughts' into the thread.
LuDwig- - No Vote
JeeJee - No Vote
Hesmyrr - Roffles
Was challenging me from the start, no biggie though
+ Show Spoiler +On June 23 2010 00:06 Hesmyrr wrote:Another strike against amber[light] argument. To my knowledge MoM goes to one with highest vote, and Governor to one with second highest vote. Does not that mean he is singlehandedly determining who is going to sit in ALL mayoral positions? Really? At least try to divide the town into three camps so we as a town have some choice in who to knock off. Show nested quote +I am fine with running for minister here. I don't think that I have any special qualifications beyond the other two candidates posed except, well, that I know I am town. But supposedly so do they, so yeah. If people feel that I would be a valuable choice in the election, I would gladly take the role to at least keep it out of death eater or even independant hands. My spellset would mesh reasonably well with an elected role, but regardless of election will need to remain concealed to keep its optimal efficiency. YellowInk, you just softclaimed for the pr position. ...Eh. On June 23 2010 00:32 Hesmyrr wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 00:21 Amber[LighT] wrote: Also I did not step up as a candidate until someone else nominated me. I am pushing for my candidacy because I believe I can lead the town to victory, and I'm really confident that I can do this. I don't understand why you're bashing me for proposing a plan if I was the MoM and pushing for my election when we agreed that people should only be pushing if they were nominated... I followed the rules the few active players agreed upon, and I believe that my plan will work. We have a lot of variables in the game, but if we can elect some level-headed individuals into office that have been posting we can start finding the DE's faster, even if the spells are going to work against us. The candidates definitely should propose plans, but it is in equal responsibility of the players to find faults and pitfalls as much as possible- and question the proposer to see if the weakness in the plan is unintentional or deliberate. The way you countered by building upon the plan - cushion style method for blue tag players - has alleviated my suspicion quite a lot, but I still want to hear about how you pulled out Radfield's name, and why. If this plan continues you and Radfield are guaranteed to be either MoM/Governor; which is something one should definitely be held accountable for should the future unfold peachy. On June 23 2010 06:18 Hesmyrr wrote: I'll be comfortable with town pushing YellowInk or Roffles as replacement candidate, but you guys gotta be fast. I would also like obligatory explanation post coming in this thread when someone casts his/her vote. In fact can someone make a list dividing players into 'explained vote / unexplained vote'? I would do it myself, but I don't have any time today from now.
YellowInk - YellowInk
Doesn't like the Amber/Radfield ticket, I'm not going to quote everything on this page...
~OpZ~ - Amber[LighT]
+ Show Spoiler +On June 23 2010 01:21 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2010 23:42 DCLXVI wrote:On June 22 2010 21:13 Amber[LighT] wrote: Even if radfield is going to be inactive I can communicate with him regularly. If and when we need to pardon we will use him. I'm going out on a limb here to stress that I will probably be the best person for the position. I am also asking the detective to IMMEDIATELY check me. Do we have a detective? The role list says Detective: See Legilimency and Occlumency. Legilimency is listed as a mafia spell. From the way medic is defined (see episky, a blue spell) it seems that there is no actual detective that can role check. Also, can people have multiple spells? Occlumency seems kind of useless unless people can have multiple spells. I am not sure why the mafia would want to try to find out everyone's character. Obviously they would like to know who harry is so they don't kill him, but other than that it only seems to help them guess at blue roles, maybe. (this is assuming that the mafia already have a safe name list) So is it true that only mafia get the red spells and only townies get the blue spells? Town has to be able to use some of those red spells imo. Also, some townie roles clearly would be able to. I don't think Aurors are just body guards, prob DT and Vig capable too. They're are prob plenty of med/roleblockers...It's a themed game, and almost every themed game (see any of callers/aces games that are themed) we have on TL is overly filled with roles. Show nested quote +On June 22 2010 23:42 DCLXVI wrote: I am not sure what to think about Amber[light] right now, he seems like a good player but until I get a clarification on spell rules I cannot make a guess at his role. Now that YellowInk is here I feel more secure in voting for him or radfield. Radfield may be the better choice just because he sort of didn't want the role because he doesn't think that he will be active. That is either a good ploy or he is thinking for the better of the town; I think that it is more likely a townie sort of play. I have no idea about Hesmyrr.
@opz So far I have only seen 1 good post out of you too, I just don't spam the thread like you do to seem active. I'm not voting YellowInk. He has one decent post, and I demand more. Better statement of his own plans. I feel he should be investigated and atleast one other person who threw support (Not Johnnyspazz). Oh and... Aww, sorry, did you get butt hurt by my calling you out? Did it get you to post? I think so. That's the whole point. Draw attention to the stragglers. Make them think they'll die and they come and make decent posts. Good Job. And look, I probably just taught you something? Sheesh. Atleast now you won't be killed for inactivity. Now onward to more pressing matters! Show nested quote +On June 22 2010 23:47 zeks wrote: @DCLXVI good point do we even have a town rolecheck to work with? Forget what I said above. My vote remains on Amber but with possibility of changing tonight. Don't go into game set up. It's always reasonable to assume atleast one detective role is in the game. So yes. We have a role check to work with. Probably quite a few. Now about that role check...will we see results? Possibly, possibly not. Dude investigating could die, dude being investigated could die, person investigating might not ever post findings. It's all ifs. We can't just assume they will be posted. Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 00:00 Hesmyrr wrote:
~OpZ~ and Amber[light] voted for Radfield. zeks and AcrossFiveJulys voted for Amber[LighT]
Casual question to ~OpZ~... If you don't like Radfield, why are you voting for him? I like him more than you (not that I don't actually like you, ThreeKingdoms you were my buddy!). I'm actually planning on changing my vote still, and you had the same idea as me with Roffles, but I don't know if Roffles can scum find...I know Radfield can...But I learned my lesson from the game I was modkilled for. I was active, except the last day, and missed my vote. Radfield ALSO said he doesn't have as much time to dedicate to the game, (As I've pointed out) so I don't really feel he should be a mayor or pardoner. And Amber voting for Radfield (Amber trying to be pardoner?). How does that sound to you Hes? =(
zeks - Amber[LighT]
+ Show Spoiler +On June 22 2010 23:44 zeks wrote: Voted Amber[LighT] cause he stepped up and asked. In this setup where we can check elected positions I do feel a little more at ease.
I PMed BM about whether we're allowed to mass name-claim..I still want to know if we can do it because it puts us in a better position with limited repercussions.
(Although I would agree somewhat that a mass name claim would be kinda imba)
Roffles - No Vote
DCLXVI - Roffles
+ Show Spoiler +On June 22 2010 23:42 DCLXVI wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2010 21:13 Amber[LighT] wrote: Even if radfield is going to be inactive I can communicate with him regularly. If and when we need to pardon we will use him. I'm going out on a limb here to stress that I will probably be the best person for the position. I am also asking the detective to IMMEDIATELY check me. Do we have a detective? The role list says Detective: See Legilimency and Occlumency. Legilimency is listed as a mafia spell. From the way medic is defined (see episky, a blue spell) it seems that there is no actual detective that can role check. Also, can people have multiple spells? Occlumency seems kind of useless unless people can have multiple spells. I am not sure why the mafia would want to try to find out everyone's character. Obviously they would like to know who harry is so they don't kill him, but other than that it only seems to help them guess at blue roles, maybe. (this is assuming that the mafia already have a safe name list) So is it true that only mafia get the red spells and only townies get the blue spells? I am not sure what to think about Amber[light] right now, he seems like a good player but until I get a clarification on spell rules I cannot make a guess at his role. Now that YellowInk is here I feel more secure in voting for him or radfield. Radfield may be the better choice just because he sort of didn't want the role because he doesn't think that he will be active. That is either a good ploy or he is thinking for the better of the town; I think that it is more likely a townie sort of play. I have no idea about Hesmyrr. @opz So far I have only seen 1 good post out of you too, I just don't spam the thread like you do to seem active.
ElyAs - No Vote
Thegilaboy - Radfield
+ Show Spoiler +On June 23 2010 05:20 Thegilaboy wrote: Hey everyone, back from another fun day at work. I'm going to go ahead and cast my vote for Radfield. The guy definitely seems to have a grasp on the game, and with all of the crazy spells and roles in this particular game, we need somebody like him to sort through the muck and the mire. Plus I support his notion of lynching the relatively inactive players, those just trying to skate by. And with that, I'm off for a bit of a bike ride.
Oh and about the whole red/blue spells, it would seem that town has to have some access to red spells, what with DT's and Vigs alone. Seems we would have a very difficult game ahead of us if we had our hands tied from using those at all.
LaXerCannon - Amber[LighT]
+ Show Spoiler +On June 23 2010 05:51 LaXerCannon wrote: To me, Amberlight looks active and I have a gut feeling he'll be easy to read as protown or not when he gets into office.
Amber[LighT] - Radfield
Vote padding... that's really the reason I threw my vote on Radfield.
Abenson - Radfield
lol...
+ Show Spoiler +On June 23 2010 05:03 Abenson wrote: Alright, I apologize for my inactivity for the past 2 days. I've finally finished all my exams, and I will be pretty much free now
Once again, sorry for my inactivity On June 23 2010 05:08 Abenson wrote: Alright, caught up and ready to play.
I'll try not to be a shitty player like I usually am
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To be honest it would be between you or Abenson if I get MoM
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Out of all of the active players you seem to be the only one with immediate animosity towards another player. Sadly 9 out of 10 times these rivalries prove useless as both end up being townies anyway.
There's no way you're a blue role if you're trying to fight with another player. It would be more likely that a non-voter would hold a spell useful to the town... and you actually (sort of) claimed green, so it wouldn't be a terrible hit otherwise...
If you read my post on you (above) the only vote support post you made was that you feel secure voting for Radfield, but you voted for Roffles? Not only that you don't even seem to know the rules enough to continue playing. If you read what other posters said about the spells (going back to the post I quoted above) you would already be on the same page. Feel's more like we're dragging you along at this point and you're somehow still not getting it.
Truthfully Abenson should be dead since he made no effort to justify his post. This would show us two other players' roles potentially (Radfield and thegilaboy).
Then again JeeJee also ninja-voted... after being so useful in this discussion (/sarcasm). JeeJee should also be considered seriously...
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On June 23 2010 01:10 Bill Murray wrote: 6 hours 20 minutes until elections are over
shouldn't the vote be over? Gotta get pizza but im making sure no scum decides to alter the votes
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On June 23 2010 07:32 Thegilaboy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 07:24 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Truthfully Abenson should be dead since he made no effort to justify his post. This would show us two other players' roles potentially (Radfield and thegilaboy).
And what role of mine would that show? I'm actually strongly considering changing my vote, after thinking about this whole double ticket sort of deal. YellowInk has a cleaner grasp it seems, and he is against the entire double running thing (like me). So yeah, going to be switching my vote now, but I was just curious as to what role you think that would reveal.
Depends on what Abenson flipped. Red would have make you a candidate for an investigation, anything else would keep you safe for the moment.
If you're going to switch go for it. I don't really care who's the governor... the second they pardon we're going to be suspicious. Once you raise the red flags it's going to only stall mafia (potentially) for an extra day, so it's only as strong as the person who's behind the position makes it.
With that said the votes 4-4 between radfield and YI... if I move my vote then YI is the governor... any last suggestions?
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On June 23 2010 07:40 Jugan wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2010 21:13 Amber[LighT] wrote: Even if radfield is going to be inactive I can communicate with him regularly. If and when we need to pardon we will use him. I'm going out on a limb here to stress that I will probably be the best person for the position. I am also asking the detective to IMMEDIATELY check me. How so? You're not supposed to PM outside of game.
That's true... he said he can view the thread regularly anyway.
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On June 23 2010 07:43 DCLXVI wrote:@opz I called you dumb or mafia. You spammed the thread with useless posts and then called for other people to post more content, and I responded to that. I hoped that other people might pick up on that but apparently not. You may think that your "ploy" to get people like me to post more worked because you may have done nothing on fathers day, but that doesn't mean other people don't have commitments on holidays. Even so, you should say such bullshit as: Show nested quote +Oh and... Aww, sorry, did you get butt hurt by my calling you out? Did it get you to post? I think so. Show nested quote +Good Job. And look, I probably just taught you something? Sheesh. Atleast now you won't be killed for inactivity. two possibilities being you are dumb, or you are mafia accusing others for their lack of content while you posted nothing. @amber Show nested quote +Out of all of the active players you seem to be the only one with immediate animosity towards another player. Sadly 9 out of 10 times these rivalries prove useless as both end up being townies anyway. so 1/10 odds are better than 5(?)/20... Show nested quote +If you read my post on you (above) the only vote support post you made was that you feel secure voting for Radfield, but you voted for Roffles? if you read my post then you would understand... Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 03:46 DCLXVI wrote: Now that we know there is a godfather I am more suspicious of Amber[light]. He is trying to arrange the two offices and asked for someone to rolecheck him once he gets an office. I am going to throw my vote on roffles for now for the same reason as hesmyrr. and finally Show nested quote + Not only that you don't even seem to know the rules enough to continue playing. If you read what other posters said about the spells (going back to the post I quoted above) you would already be on the same page. Feel's more like we're dragging you along at this point and you're somehow still not getting it.
please point out to me where BM clarified the rules on the spells. I brought up the discussion on spells because I felt that the original discussion was dropped too quickly and without sufficient reason. BM did say he had no idea if the game was balanced so I did not think that any assumptions about how the spells would be allocated should be guaranteed. Apparently you know how spells work so you probably have at least one, and you have to drag me along because I was not told how they were used in a pm.
are you done with the stereotypical last resort post? You're getting pretty defensive pretty quickly over the things that Opz and I are saying, and I really don't know why... since you asked anyway...
It's also a common mafia tactic to flood the thread with rule discussion, constantly going over the nitty-gritty of the rules and roles... this keeps discussion away from whats important, like electing a good candidate...
Do you wish to continue?
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On June 23 2010 07:50 Jugan wrote: Amber, in the post I quoted from you - were you saying that you were a mason? Just checking, because there was a little ambiguity there.
no
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Sorry guys I am getting over a terrible strep throat or something... might be an allergic reaction too... so I've been doped up with nyquil for the past few nights.
We need these inactives to step up and post. If you think you are safe because you have spells you should get the idea out of your head that you're special and you do not need to post. This game is going to require activity from everybody.
Now with that said I'm pretty sure that the auror was not protecting me, but to be sure we can run through the hypothetical.... 1. He didn't live so the 50% part is out. 2. Either myself or he would have been killed (25%), this is possible. 3. Both of us would have died... Couldn't happen since I'm still alive 4. He was targeted on his own, most likely
Conditions 2 and 4 are the only possible scenarios. I think it's more likely that he was targeted on his own since there was such a slim chance that the 2nd condition was met AND then after a roll between myself and the auror resulted in the auror being killed. That doesn't mean it didn't happen though.
Thegilaboy was a dayvig... so was he able to cast AK during the day? He didn't really leave much of a paper trail other than the fact that he voted for Radfield. The only correlation I made with him and radfield and one other player was the odd push for votes.
To be honest I'm more interested in this YellowInk vote party that went on. In the last 6 or so hours of the day there was a bandwagon of voters that almost took the Pardoner (AND MOM) position.
Here is yesterdays vote list. You should pick people who are on the SAME LIST. (Note this includes people who voted after the deadline)
Amber[LighT] Amber[LighT] JohnnySpazz AcrossFiveJulys
LaXerCannon Lakrismamma Zeks Jayme
Radfield Abenson JeeJee
TheGilaBoy JeeJee Radfield
Roffles
DCLXVI Hesmyrr
YellowInk YellowInk ~OpZ~ Subversion (didnt count) Stormtemplar (didnt count) Jugan Elyas
People who did not vote: LuDwig- Roffles
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Oh and I wasn't aware of the no talking rule at night. I hope everyone dug through the posts and looked at Hesmyrr's plan along with any post I made... if you were confused about night actions.
If you didn't do that, you're not helping... and you should step forward immediately if you were a town-aligned player who killed someone.
I'm also assuming no one did any checks and found a DE? We will also come up with another list of names to be checked.
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Just so you guys are aware.. a lot of the better players tend to play differently for every game. For every role they can come up with a new in-game persona to confuse people. It's good to try and get some sort of analysis on playing behavior but a lot of the actions good players will do tend to be manipulative of their overall personality, not their mafia playing style. Players like Opz are a good example. For instance, you said he was less active/aggressive in mafia XXVII, but the last game I played with him (mafia XX I think?) he was in-between both spectrums (he was aggressive at points in the game, but not active at other points in the game).
Be careful with your analysis and PLEASE cite specific posts if you're going to draw conclusions.
And let's not flame each other. The analysis placed on players should be objective, so the players getting analyzed should not get their ego's taken down a notch because someone's cross analyzing play.
If you guys don't mind it might be best for me to take the players that did not vote at all (Roffles and Ludwig-). I have to work (like actual work, not the "work" where I sit on TL all day and post lol). Expect something tonight by me.
Other players should begin posting in my absence... I'll be watching the thread and responding if I need to ^_^
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On June 24 2010 23:00 lakrismamma wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2010 21:16 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Here is yesterdays vote list. You should pick people who are on the SAME LIST. (Note this includes people who voted after the deadline)
Amber[LighT] Amber[LighT] JohnnySpazz AcrossFiveJulys
LaXerCannon Lakrismamma Zeks Jayme
Radfield Abenson JeeJee
TheGilaBoy JeeJee Radfield
Roffles
DCLXVI Hesmyrr
YellowInk YellowInk ~OpZ~ Subversion (didnt count) Stormtemplar (didnt count) Jugan Elyas
People who did not vote: LuDwig- Roffles Wouldn't it make more sense to investigate people on the other lists then the one you are on. This to prevent mafia from investigating eachother if they now had one candidate they wanted elected? Or am I missing something?
I mean when you pick two people to investigate.. make sure that they are BOTH on the same list.
You should not be picking people that are on the SAME list as you... and there can be overlap in analysis... that's encouraged actually.
sorry for the confusion.
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Okay after FINALLY getting power back after the fierce 20 minute thunderstorm (that uprooted half of the trees in my town lol) here we go.
Ludwig
Recent Posts:
+ Show Spoiler + LOL there are none, what a shock!
No seriously here's his last posts:
On June 21 2010 20:08 LuDwig- wrote:Hello everyone and welcome to this game I am going to read extenzevely the rules (it seems quite differetn from previous mafia game) Which is the role of a mayor?
On June 22 2010 19:58 LuDwig- wrote:You forgot me i ahve posted little too but i have really some problems understanding how this game will works. I suppose that having so many roles make roleclaiming too difficult too manage. How can we understand if somebody is lying? :| However the post voting thread now is for mayor.
I don't know if he's playing like an idiot or if his internet has been disconnected. I can't even find a recent post aside from those two ANYWHERE on the site. As far as activity goes his is the worst in this game. He needs to do something, but I guess his fates in BM's hands, not ours for now.
Roffles:
Posts of Interest:
On June 22 2010 10:39 Roffles wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2010 08:24 zeks wrote: I don't see the new mayor/pardoners making the same mistake as the last game (being flamewheel's XXVI game) and being way too pro town. Mafia (sorry don't like typing Death Eaters) needs to be aggressive early on or they'll get fucked eventually. Thus I'm more inclined to pick a conservative posting townie like Radfield or Amber.
I haven't read up on many of the older mafia games besides XXVI and XXVII...so I really have limited knowledge of everyones play style besides the recent game I played in XXVI. The only thing I notice is Ludwig being the only player from XXVI/XXVII that was mafia.
side note: the Traitor screams Lucius Malfoy to me.
Wasn't there a list of all the characters in the game? Did we remove that now?
I'm personally on board with either Radfield or Amber[Light] as well. Both have seemed to reason out legitimate opinions, but not too farfetched ideas that could possibly lead to a massive landslide. I personally think a more conservative approach to things will lead to the safest play possible. As for Amber[Light]'s second approach, I think it's a decent one, only if everyone approaches it in the same manner. If you have a couple stragglers not on board, then everything goes down the drain, and huge casualties will occur. Side Note: Traitor screams Severus Snape. Lucius Malfoy has always been a Death Eater. Snape's intentions were never clear until the seventh book really. But we never know, cause we don't have a list.
On board with the Amber/Radfield combo.
On June 22 2010 12:10 Roffles wrote:You gonna save us all? Or are you just a puppet like Thicknesse was in Book 7? =O Anyways, name claiming sounds fine for now, but I fear it won't really do anything. There are a lot of obscure characters in HP that Mafia can nameclaim. But for now, it's better than nothing since they could slip and give an invalid character or one that's already occupied or whatnot.
Like above, the discussion over name-claiming resulted in Roffles being for the plan. It's not really anything conclusive since at this point I still feel like it was a wishy-washy decision.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 23 2010 00:38 Roffles wrote: I think we should be more focused right now upon mayoral elections and each plan going forth from here on out. Lynching can wait a day. First things first with these elections. I want to see platforms from both major candidates who are planning on pursuing MoM, and from there we can criticize each plan and make amends before jumping to conclusions without much substance.
My one hesitation about this game is that there are a lot of random variables that we don't know about, such as which roles exist and which abilities exist, which makes planning from now on rather difficult to coordinate. But a general plan should be devised so we can work with a base.
Btw, Abenson probably just needs a PM to get him kickstarted.
Just keeping this post for reference... nothing really of substance...
+ Show Spoiler +On June 25 2010 05:48 Roffles wrote:What's with the edits? Anyways, since I missed voting thanks to Comcast, I'll pick out the last couple from the YI voters and give my opinions on them so I can try to see why they hopped on the YI board at the last second. Gonna start with Jugan+ Show Spoiler [List of relevant posts by Jugan] +On June 24 2010 12:06 Jugan wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2010 11:26 Subversion wrote:Why was I listed as inactive on Day 1? Anyway. One of our people who has a night ability had not yet used it, now that night is over can we assume that he did in fact use it, or did he just run out of time? We may have someone with a potentially useful ability who is inactive Perhaps only those with night actions know? For example say a medic saved someone, maybe only the medic, the death eater, and that person know. Only thing I picked up was a slight hint of him showing how the game mechanics work, as he hints that possibly only those with night actions know whether or not everyone with a night ability has performed it already. Actually, after further reading of his posts, I've come to the conclusion that he's pretty much Flamewheel 2.0, littering with a ton of irrelevant posts, such as "Damn, there goes my favorite Weasley"... Haven't seen anything useful from Jugan. Why'd he vote for YI? Not a fucking clue at all. Elyas2nd game of Mafia. On board with sponsoring a mayor. Likes the aggressive playstyle of YI, voted because of one previous Mafia game with YI. Wants a rolecheck on MoM. Didn't like Amber or Radfield, so voted YI. Against inactives. From what I see of Elyas, his main logic of detecting mafia lies within the simple aspect of comparisons in between games. To see whether or not the posting quality dips, or any slight behavior don't correspond between the two games. However, as stated, this is only his second game of mafia, so whether or not he'll be able to pick up on the slight differences is highly questionable. From what I see, if Player X is Townie in game 1, there's no way he'll be able to know how said player is going to act in this game, even if he's a townie. Certain players have various approaches towards each game, and let's not even talk about if Player X is a mafia. Then there's absolutely no way he'll be able to draw a conclusion as to how that player is going to act this game. But to sum up what I've determined, I just find it highly suspicious of Jugan to hop on the YI train without any substance. If you sift through his previous posts, he gave absolutely no indication as to any affiliation whatsoever, but just voted for YI towards the end. I can sort of see why Elyas hopped on board with YI, but that might simply be because he knows YI's style from a previous game. Lack of reasoning behind the votes, and thus, we're still left in the dark.
Thank you. I read the post but I'm really tired I need to go through all of the posts after today again tomorrow. Attitude Roffles.. Attitude lol...
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Also guys while we need to consider a lynch for the day we also need to allocate our night actions for tonight. Now assuming that everyone followed the plan last night that Hesmyrr posted, we should rotate the responsibility. I'm going to bring back his post from day 1 to reference:
On June 23 2010 00:00 Hesmyrr wrote:I propose alternative plan. Below is the player list: Show nested quote +Subversion Jugan stormtemplar Jayme acrossfivejulys johnnyspazz lakrismamma Radfield LuDwig- JeeJee Hesmyrr YellowInk ~OpZ~ zeks ~Roffles DCLXVI ElyAs Thegilaboy LaXerCannon Amber[LighT] Abenson The person with investigative powers in red tag investigate MoMThe person with investigative powers in green tag investigate pardonerThe person with investigative powers in blue tag investigate someone else.
Okay now I don't know how this panned out last night, but lets use the same colors, but now you will investigate someone within the same color lines. DO NOT investigate Radfield or myself. I am assuming we were both checked. As for the blue we won't know who they checked, if anyone is there at all... however if you are able to read minds please pick someone within your color lines and do it.
Protection and role blocking.... if you are capable of protecting you should protect yourself. We don't have enough information to say who you _SHOULD_ be protecting. Role-blocking is a bit more difficult since we could accidentally block players who are protecting themselves or those who are checking other players.
So the following players should have been blocked: Myself Radfield Any other candidates
I was not blocked... so there has to be two or less role blockers... or people did not listen. I'm wondering if we should stack role blocking on one player to see if there are any role blocking players... suggestions?
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my bad BM I quoted the color post
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On June 25 2010 10:48 Thegilaboy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2010 10:42 Amber[LighT] wrote: Okay after FINALLY getting power back after the fierce 20 minute thunderstorm (that uprooted half of the trees in my town lol) here we go.
Hey we had a wicked storm yesterday that uprooted trees and everything around here as well. You in the Chicago land area? Probably not but worth a shot to see lol As for Ludwig, looks like the guy is going to get modkilled unfortunately. He seems so incredibly out of the loop that it's almost not worth looking at him anymore, like you said
Metro NYC area actually
Also Roffles I forgot to ask this... if you were to vote for someone who would you have voted for? If I missed it in a recent post I apologize in advance.
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On June 25 2010 11:29 johnnyspazz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2010 10:59 Amber[LighT] wrote: So the following players should have been blocked: Myself Radfield Any other candidates what do you mean by this? also i don't like your habit of opening posts with an excuse for inactivity, seems odd to me.
It's not really inactivity... it's just I promised to post something when I got out of work and I really couldn't... I started to on my phone and I live in a perma-dead zone... go figure AT&T
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