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On August 13 2010 11:51 youngminii wrote: Wow what the fuck, okay.
The Selfish Townie hopes all you motherfuckers die.
lol i guess you played your role out quite well, all game then.
i suppose there's not much to do but wait to see what happens with bm's claim and see who goes down from his shot or if he gets shot, and stuffs
though the late, last minute votes were kind of interesting. God im still feeling hung over
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On August 14 2010 06:05 citi.zen wrote: Lol @ korynne and lsb. Hit tonight = dead townie. It's fine, lynch korynne afterwards.
yeah seriously, why on earth would you pop a vigi shot without any evidence of someone being scum. Wasting a vig hit is the same as wasting a lynch you don't want to do it.
All using a vig hit does, if you miss hit, which is more likely than a hit given no sure fire proof, is confirm someone as town.
Confirming one person as town gets us alot less close to a mafia considering missing a vig hit and killing a second townie in one night leads to bad stuffs. At least this is how i feel about it. I would hope that sounds reasonable to at least some of you non reds out there.
Especially since it was publicly announced how the vig has to restrict his targets, reds could easily not vote for that person, or if they had already voted for someone else/abstained just keep it that way and then guarantee a double kill
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On August 14 2010 12:38 citi.zen wrote:Look at this vote list: Show nested quote +youngminii (4) Divinek citi.zen Bill Murray Scamp
chaoser (2) Korynne zeks
Abstain/No Lynch (2) bumatlarge LSB
Bill Murray (1) youngminii
Not voted yet (2): chaoser, Jayme The reds are most likely three of: Korynne, LSB, bumatlarge, chaoser or jayme. Bum has an absurd claim, but let's cross him off for now. Meaning: * Korynne is red. It's not just the vote, it's repeated misstatements (Ace played "normal", Pyrr was "scummy" for saying the penalty claims were bad; BM NEEDS to kill someone to be "confirmed"). * Two of LSB, chaoser or jayme are red. I used to think Scamp could be red as well, but I now doubt it. That's my input, I will keep my vote on Korynne. The weekend is here!
hm you present an interesting candidate i will be sure to do a full analysis when i get back from getting smashed out of my mind. I feel that this is when i think with the most clarity
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ok so i didnt even make it to my room last night LOL
anyways as promised
On August 13 2010 00:11 Korynne wrote: Can we vote for no lynch? I'm totally down for that (minus the fact I can't change my vote to reflect that).
We're voting to lynch youngminii (or alternatively for no lynch), he doesn't need to be on the bandwagon for us to lynch him...
We can decide afterwards in the no lynch group or in the youngminii group, whichever one is the bandwagon of the day, who we want BM to vigi.
woo go anti town plan! Not lynching gives the mafia a whole extra night to kill someone. While the town potentially only gains the the death of a townie
On August 13 2010 21:59 Korynne wrote: BM you shoud hit tonight, otherwise you are not "confirmed" and will very likely be lynched tomorrow given the amount of people suspecting you. So even if just by self-preservation, pick someone and go.
I'm assuming you are not a one-shot vigi and can shoot as many times as you want? If so mafia would most likely want you dead tonight otherwise we have a confirmed vigilante...
Also don't stump bum... >_>
really pushing the hit huh, it's almost like you know no scum are gonna get hit. You know ive had my suspicions about citizen but when you seem so adamant on getting someone on the young wagon killed i start to not be so worried about him and be more worried about your god damn anti town ideas. Yeah lets kill 2 towns in one night! why would mafia want him dead so badly? If they know the mechanic behind his shot restriction they can avoid it somewhat easily, and get 2 kills a night instead of one rofl. HOW DO PEOPLE NOt SEE YOU AS RED
On August 14 2010 07:27 Korynne wrote: Dude, if the only argument you have against lynching you is that you know you're not mafia... then that's a pretty poor argument.
You don't offer up the other two people on the wagon for vigi hit, so who do you think is red?
Also if you think BM is red, which I think right now if BM doesn't hit anyone then like, we're pretty much going to lynch him tomorrow. So knowing that, BM needs to hit one of you guys for self preservation.
what the fuck is your argument? Surely the same thing, so by this very merit your argument is poor and we should lynch you. Which by god we will do you scum bastard
i have a very hard time ever telling wtf bm is because his play is so retarded regardless of his alignment. But think about it, town REALLY has to have some sort of KP role this game and if there was another vig bm would be 100% dead by now.
On August 14 2010 13:16 Korynne wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2010 10:41 citi.zen wrote:##vote korynneOn August 13 2010 21:59 Korynne wrote: BM you shoud hit tonight, otherwise you are not "confirmed" and will very likely be lynched tomorrow given the amount of people suspecting you. So even if just by self-preservation, pick someone and go.
I'm assuming you are not a one-shot vigi and can shoot as many times as you want? If so mafia would most likely want you dead tonight otherwise we have a confirmed vigilante...
Also don't stump bum... >_> This is weak. If Bill was red claiming vigi, he would have been vigi hit tonight. Unless there is no vigi, in which case lol. Why are we assuming there is a vigi? And who's to say the vigi doesn't have some kind of restriction and can't kill BM? Also if BM was red claiming vigi...and I'm red... then like, what? Obviously BM can't vigi you if he's mafia, so then I'm pushing to make BM take a shot and then like omg BM didn't take a shot let's kill him? When everyone else is like, pfft, don't waste a shot guys. FoS on BM, cuz I can't vote change. >_> I guess secondary FoS on citi.zen. Like, if no one suspected BM, then I would go with the maybe wasting a vigi shot, but considering like a lot of people were suspicious of BM on day one, and then like more people suspicious of BM on day 2 but then me arguing for keeping BM around for the night for the purpose of confirming him, and him not taking the shot, then like, yeah, I'm done giving BM chances.
ROFL a restriction that he cant kill bm? please get your head out of your ass, that would be the worst restriction on a vig possible. That's like one of the few ways he can guarantee hit a red is a fake claim.
Yes EVERYONE ELSE is like dont waste a shot, yet you're so intent on him wasting a shot and potentially killing a townie, which would damn near end the game for us. I would like to lynch at least one mafia this game, so I'm not going to continue to breeze over your empty anti town logic anymore
If you're done giving him chances why isnt your vote on him? I know you can't change it but that sounds like a pretty absolute statement. OH THE FANNING OF THE FLAMES
On August 14 2010 13:23 Korynne wrote: Wait... citi.zen so you're saying that reds would just absolutely not vote for the majority? Would seem kind of stupid to put all your eggs in one basket. Not to mention how hard it would be for town to coordinate 4 people onto someone.
I don't know why you seem so trusting of Scamp and Divinek without giving any reasons, and expecting us to trust you without giving any reasons...
So BM can you explain why you didn't hit citi.zen? Like, at no point before the night ended were you like, okay I sent my hit in or like so like I'm not going to because like, observe, LYLO.
i agree that it is pretty ludicrous that no reds would vote for majority. It is possible but i believe it to be unlikely, naturally though they would limit their numbers on that wagon as much as possible.
I suppose you can only trust me based on your own nose, though if you really wanted i could role claim and you could discern the legitimacy of it based on what has happened. As for scamp..i dunno. I haven't gone through his post history much because such obvious targets as yourself present themselves
note the bolded part, im quite certain bm did give a logical explanation for not wanting to mindlessly waste a vig hit, so now you're just LYING. And yet you kept pushing for him to hit someone on that wagon almost like you KNEW he would hit whom you wanted to hit
you're going down today you scum fuck, i know you're a good player and can talk your way out of things but not this time
##vote korynne
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On August 16 2010 07:53 LSB wrote: Case Study, Youngminii Divinek makes a drunk post. Wants to kill Yongminii because he hasn't contributed anything to the town. Mentions one kindof scummy post citi.zen pops up and agrees with Divinek Bill Murray wants to kill someone Scamp randomly appears and kills Youngminii
Scamp. Why did you want to kill Youngminii? I think this is very suspicious. BM wants to kill someone instead of nolynch, understandable. Citi.zen, idk, it seems a bit too early to bandwagon, but if the mafia is Citi.zen/BM/Scamp it would be understandable as an easy diversion from BM. It seems like Citi.zen wants to defend BM.
Citi.zen has been defending BM a lot, now that I think about it
Another group I am very suspicious about. DDivinek/BM/Citi.zen Look back at Day 1. Divinek/BM voted for Pyrr, and Citi.zen switched his vote off BIll Murray, killing Pyrr. Divinek/BM/Citi.zen got Yongminii killed. And now Divinek/BM/Citi.zen is trying to get Koryane killed, say wut? They all have a 0/2 record for voting. I'd be wary about following them
yeah lets ignore all the other people in the game then D:
if you want to do a real analysis about any of those people then that'd be great, rather than piecing together circumstantial evidence.
you can do that have of the player list and i can do the rest if you want! I really do feel like i need to be taking a look at chaoser, and anything jayme actually said before he died lol. Inactive people coasting by that urgently needed to avoid mod kills.
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lame jayme didnt contribute anything but fanning a few flames early on before he went quiet, makes me need to put FoS on him/darth whatever
darrrrrrrth where are you
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On August 16 2010 11:17 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +"Unwary: If a mafia is lynched it negatively impacts on him for the following night" What negative impacts come from this? FoS: Divinek
i cant say exactly what it is, because
if i say exactly what it is i will surely be killed by it if the condition is met
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On August 16 2010 11:22 Bill Murray wrote: We have 24 hours left. Darth voting Korynne, and claiming to "look guilty" looks guilty, but it might be town because of his ability to laugh that off. I'm starting to pick up on underlying trends from this game. If Korynne is red I feel like we get a lot of information based upon who was defending her (LSB)
I'm sort of torn on my vote. I hate feeling frustrated as town.
well it's all kind of wifom but at the same time it's not...
like it looks good if someone flips town and you were defending them. So if a mob member knew a townie was going to get lynched it'd be easy for them to try and defend them. And if people are pushing for someone to die people always assume that those people must be mob, which is silly. Usually the most vehement people in the lynching of a townie are well townies themselves. Because sure mafia want to help get townies killed but it's kind of bad for them to take the spot light. They usually try to sit back and tab jabs from the shadows, at least what ive seen from the few games ive played.
The biggest thing to look for obviously is someone showing that they know too much.
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On August 17 2010 03:20 DarthThienAn wrote: Can we lynch bum? :D
we could try but he might stump on us
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On August 17 2010 04:18 DarthThienAn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 04:07 Divinek wrote:On August 17 2010 03:20 DarthThienAn wrote: Can we lynch bum? :D we could try but he might stump on us Oh. I totally forgot about that. I still don't fully understand that. Does someone get converted? Or is one person just considered toward the mafia count? It makes sense that it only happens to one person so then it'd be -1 townie and +1 mafia, in the same way that recruitment works. Whether or not they become part of the mafia team is questionable. Also, how does that person get picked? I want answers!
im fairly sure it just changes the overall count, so mafia can only win quicker and dont actually get an extra member. Because if someone got converted that'd be ridiculous. Though i wouldn't put that past this set up
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seriously where the hell has chaoser been his last few posts have just been his votes
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On August 17 2010 07:00 Korynne wrote: Alright, well I will vote for chaoser then. I can't switch my vote, so bandwagon up everyone~
##Vote chaoser
okay
i dont really have any good reads on him but he's been way too quiet and this does help things along if bm fucking decides to actually pop you or whatever
##unvote ##vote chaoser
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On August 17 2010 07:52 DarthThienAn wrote: Too many people voting for chaoser...
Despite that post I need to think. Obviously, if we lynch a townie, BM does not use his vigi hit. So that fails.
Alternate plan? 1) Lynch Korynne.
Korynne mafia: we tell BM to shoot someone on the list who we suspect (multiple names!). If two people die, then BM is confirmed townie. If one person dies, we lynch BM - if he's mafia, great, if he's not, we're.. back at lylo I think. We're at 6-3 Lynch Korynne: 6-2 BM + mafia both hit townies: 4-2, with a confirmed townie (unless mafia hit BM) BM + mafia hit 1 of ea: 5-1 only one hit: 5-2 --> lynch BM (townie) 4-2, lynch BM (mafia) 5-1.
Korynne townie: we tell BM not to shoot anyone. 6-3 Lynch Korynne: 5-3 Mafia hit someone tonight: 4-3
in which case we're at lylo. This means that Korynne dies today, and BM may/may not shoot one of the Korynne voters tonight. Thoughts?
man i totally didnt realize we could lose from this rofl, cause townie plus nk plus vigi is 3 and i thought mafia had to out number town not equal them.
However say we lynch anyone today that is town and then it's 5-3, and then say bm announces his hit and they stack with bm's hit or just dont do a hit then it's 4-3, and then if you lynch him because only one person died we lose... or they could obviously just hit someone else and out right end the game if bm follows through with his vigi hit.
but obviously if we hit a mob with our lynch it'll be alot better cause then it's like 6-2 and bm can hit anyone and mafia couldnt stack their hit with his because that'd be senseless so it'd probably go to 4-2 or if we get lucky 5-1, which the latter would certainly be winning for us.
So i think if we lynch whoever we lynch today if they flip town then BM CAN'T shoot, but if they flip red the hoorah, do people think that korynee seems like a much more compelling case than chaoser at this point? (because we dont have to worry about her not begin on the wagon if we lynch her, in order to be shot) i mean yeah no one is defending him but maybe that's so they dont look bad? gah there's too much god damn wifom shit in this game
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On August 17 2010 08:12 citi.zen wrote: Here:
Unvote ##vote korynne
If you two switch, we have the votes since korynne can't switch.
if she stays quiet until too close the deadline then you have my vote
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ah nvm i have to leave for a few hours, gotta help my brother organize all his fancy wedding gifts
##unvote ##vote korynne
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On August 17 2010 11:26 LSB wrote: Like I said. Citi.zen/BM/Divienk
like i said chaoser/lsb/scamp
well i didnt actually say that but words can hurt man
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On August 17 2010 12:33 Bill Murray wrote: If I mishit we lose, unless mafia hit a veteran or we have another penalized doctor what am i supposed to do?
i think it's pretty well given that you can't shoot unless you're 100% gonna hit a mafia, and since we have no where near that amount of certainty shooting is out of the question
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On August 18 2010 12:43 chaoser wrote: I'mma FoS citi.zen for now and I'll post my report tomorrow, gotta wake up early to check out housing in philly
NO NEED
since it looks like citi.zen is going to die i might as well confirm your suspicions and guarantee us a sure hit, so he can't sway your heart with his devilish tongue, because i will surely be the night kill as a result
first of all my role is
Unwary Tracker
My visit list goes like this
Night1: Ace :/, i coulda confirmed him the day after if he hadn't been hit
Night 2: Bum he didnt visit anyone so he is cleared
Night 3: citi.zen
my message read loud and clear that he killed/visited (the message reads killed) LSB this very night
now you ask, wtf divine are you stupid why would you claim when he's probably gonna die anyways and you could keep tracking!
well let me tell you my unfortunate penalty
when we lynch a mafia, they get my fucking role that very night, because i was too unwary or whatever and revealed my identity when following them. Pretty harsh i know, but it seems reasonable given there's only 3 reds and we seemed to already have 2 fucking dts rofl. (well i guess pyrr was reasonably only gonna get 1 check in, maybe two, and lsb just turned dt or something?)
oh ill justify my tracking targets
ace: good player should be self explanatory
bum: bum is my brosif and id have loved if he flipped red and i could nail him, sadly he didnt you might ask why not bm divine he was so obvious!!! well this is my first time playing a role like this, and i felt he was surely going to get himself fucking killed some how whether by lynch or vigi role (that and im partly beleived alot of his insanity because im an idiot), because we HAD to have a vigi, and surely enough we did
thx chaoser.
and citi.zen check? i dunno enough people were suspicious of him that i looked at him a little more and noticed he tended to show just too much information
hopefully this has helped enough to give you another confirmed townie, (who would doubt bum anyways right rofl)
a guarantee kill today brings us to
4v1 and then i die most likely so 3v1, YOU GOT THIS TOWN
also holy shit at the amount of blues this game, even though lsb was green for the most part
tl;dr citizen is mafia vote for him or im going to fucking hate you forever :/
thank god my net came back up it was down for nearly a god damn day
##vote citi.zen
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On August 18 2010 14:12 bumatlarge wrote: FUCK YEAH CHAOSER
ROFL WTF ok
##vote citizen
man i was so sure you were vet, but in the end i think that screwed with the reds since they didnt want to hit you, and you didnt stand against BM. regardless of what you should have done, I think we are grateful now. Scamp time to whip out the votes?
hopefully i just saved scamp one of his precious votes
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On August 19 2010 03:47 Bill Murray wrote: Divinek didn't want to kill you. I picked night 1 to kill you. Divinek picked night 2. Scamp didn't care to pick night 3, but ended up picking. It was a pretty clean win.
I disagree on the setup being that negative for town. Having a dayvig can do wonders.
my initial reaction was not to kill him but the more i thought about it the more i realized how good of an idea it was. night 1 was perrrrrrfect
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