On August 07 2010 17:40 Bill Murray wrote:
i'm not red bro
you need to drop that
i'm not red bro
you need to drop that
so persuasive
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On August 07 2010 17:40 Bill Murray wrote: i'm not red bro you need to drop that so persuasive | ||
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On August 07 2010 18:24 Bill Murray wrote: you tried to steal my plan if anything, your plan is like my plan, except it is worse because it risks a lot of blues potentially, whereas mine risks one. respond to why we should lay all our cards out on the table when there are roleblockers, framers, and ninjas lurking out there, and convince me, and i'll back off. i want this whole planning stage to end, really, so we can start scumhunting YOUR PLAN WAS EVERYONE CLAIM TO YOU THAT WAS YOUR PLAN PANDAIN CAME UP WITH HIS OWN PLAN ARE YOU REALLY TRYING TO REWRITE THIS WHOLE PLAN AT THE LAST HOUR IN A WAY THAT JUST HAPPENS TO TAKE AWAY THE RISK OF YOU GETTING FOUND OUT? *faints from vocal cord spasms* | ||
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On August 07 2010 18:33 Bill Murray wrote: I just hope I'm not lynched for being an idiot and trying to help the town You're now two votes removed from being lynched so you can quit quivering in your booties. | ||
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On August 07 2010 18:57 youngminii wrote: Anyone get the feeling these guys are scum and are arguing with each other to distract town from any real progress? Just sayin, 'cause when I opened this thread I felt like I had stepped into a clusterfuck of a warzone. Change your vote to BM and see if I complain. | ||
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On August 07 2010 19:08 Bill Murray wrote: ok, but since you "modified" my idea, you've ruined it. you are letting a roleblocker ruin a circle potentially the way i am doing it limits it to 1 person who needs to be pmed, the way you all have modified it makes it to where multiple people have to do multiple things. you all are also indicating to him where to go, which doesn't confirm shit. it needs to be called BEFORE and BY the person. We can't say "Go to house A" or we won't know who the fucking tracker is in the first place. Your "idea" which suspiciously came RIGHT after mine is like the mafia-influenced variant of my idea. It enables multiple people to know where to go. What I want the tracker to do is to roleclaim and to call his shot. Mafia won't do this unless they want to trade a roleblocker or framer for a tracker, which they won't want to. I'd take that trade. I really don't believe a ninja would want to get mixed up in that shit, either. We made a plan to confirm the watcher. If the tracker calls it in the thread, the mafia can role block him. It's sorta like your idea is like your mafia-influenced idea for everyone to claim to you, except slightly less suspicious. | ||
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On August 07 2010 19:15 Bill Murray wrote: your plan isn't good. let me explain this in language even a 14 year old would understand: watcher watches player a tracker tracks player a framer frames player a roleblocker blocks player a watcher sees tracker, framer, roleblocker, but doesn't know who is who This is my plan: watcher watches the claimed tracker who says he's visiting player a tracker visits player a = we trust him tracker doesn't visit player a = we discuss lynching him This is our plan: blues don't have to claim to anyone unconfirmed. This is your plan: blues get completely exposed. | ||
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On August 07 2010 19:16 Pandain wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 19:15 Bill Murray wrote: your plan isn't good. let me explain this in language even a 14 year old would understand: watcher watches player a tracker tracks player a framer frames player a roleblocker blocks player a watcher sees tracker, framer, roleblocker, but doesn't know who is who This is my plan: watcher watches the claimed tracker who says he's visiting player a tracker visits player a = we trust him tracker doesn't visit player a = we discuss lynching him ahaha, if that happens, that's the best thing ever. We get BOTH of the special roles for mafia. The watcher will know everyone, and basically we can medic protect the watcher and then lynch the other 3. Sure, we might lose a tracker but we'll get a framer and a roleblocker. Better evidence please. Exactly. List of 3 with 2 mafia on it? We don't want that? | ||
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On August 07 2010 19:19 Bill Murray wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 19:17 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: On August 07 2010 19:16 Pandain wrote: On August 07 2010 19:15 Bill Murray wrote: your plan isn't good. let me explain this in language even a 14 year old would understand: watcher watches player a tracker tracks player a framer frames player a roleblocker blocks player a watcher sees tracker, framer, roleblocker, but doesn't know who is who This is my plan: watcher watches the claimed tracker who says he's visiting player a tracker visits player a = we trust him tracker doesn't visit player a = we discuss lynching him ahaha, if that happens, that's the best thing ever. We get BOTH of the special roles for mafia. The watcher will know everyone, and basically we can medic protect the watcher and then lynch the other 3. Sure, we might lose a tracker but we'll get a framer and a roleblocker. Better evidence please. Exactly. List of 3 with 2 mafia on it? We don't want that? you act like we'll KNOW they're mafia. We won't. you're right. ??% risk of wandering townie. Or blues ignoring plan but that's a risk with any plan. | ||
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On August 07 2010 19:22 Bill Murray wrote: blues ignoring plan but reds not ignoring it, fakeclaiming blue, and raping us.... not like that ever happens.... or happened last game.... na, no way, jose Blues didn't ignore the plan last game. They all claimed. We made fake claims. Town sorted it out poorly. | ||
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On August 07 2010 20:04 XeliN wrote: I have to say Bill and Pandain if you guys end up both being mafia I'll be exceptionally suprised, would show some great dedication to faking conflict this early in the game. When I asked Pandain for his PMs with BM he handed them over in like 30 seconds, maybe 2 minutes. Yeah, he could have prepared them or handed them over if mafia, but I really doubt they are on the same team. | ||
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On August 07 2010 20:06 Pandain wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 19:56 Bill Murray wrote: and if you're saying no medics, no bus, only 1 dt (it would be 2, since we'll have 2, durr. or it COULD be none. they might both think "the other one will do it".), 1 watcher, 1 tracker, it will still end up being 4 or 5 people, if not more, mark my words. watcher has to deal with these people -1 Hmm... unless someone else can offer anything, this may be right. The chance of there being two dts is enough to be taken seriously. Thoughts about this? I'd like to try to save the plan if possible? With all this arguing I dunno how we are ever gonna get the blues to even figure out what plan they should go with. For me priority one is scumhunting. Any blue plan is icing on the cake but shouldn't be necessary for us to win. So, BM is right on that. Problem with my perspective is that I think he is mafia and his plan no apparently includes him getting medic protection? I love how he says his plan would be great if it gets blocked because that will distract the mafia roleblocker from possibly stopping the medic. But now his plan apparently includes a 100% chance of distracting the medic, forcing him to protect an obvious mafia member and leaving the mafia free to hit tonight with impunity. | ||
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For me priority one is scumhunting. Any blue plan is icing on the cake but shouldn't be necessary for us to win. So, BM is right on that. Problem with my perspective is that I think he is mafia and his plan now apparently includes him getting medic protection? I love how he says his plan would be great if it gets blocked because that will distract the mafia roleblocker from possibly stopping the medic. But now his plan apparently includes a 100% chance of distracting the medic, forcing him to protect an obvious mafia member and leaving the mafia free to hit tonight with impunity. | ||
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On August 07 2010 20:20 Pandain wrote: With the State of the Pandain Plan in question I still know that I can rely on my original plan, getting people to talk. With that, I'm going on vacation. I should have internet there so I'll be posting, dw. But don't know if I'll be back in time for the vote. So I'm voting Roffles. I'm sorry man, you can't just make one post so far, and that one post saying you don't care about anything anyone's saying. That doesn't help anyone at all. With that, I'm voting him. He was more active than this as medic... ninja? | ||
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On August 08 2010 07:54 Foolishness wrote: Show nested quote + On August 08 2010 07:38 XeliN wrote: Young what happened to the cold hard reasoned you, the slightly aggressive you is here but the you from last game would never have used this as an argument. "I'm gonna vote for BM. Mostly because I don't want to waste the lynch on some random." and qualify that with saying you don't actually find him suspicious. Doesn't he seem the most likely person that the mafia would hope to be bandwagoned on day1 at this point? As such, unless you actually think he is more likely than a "random" of being red shouldn't we avoid voting for him? If it werent for my contented vote on Chaoser so far i'd switch to you, although it would probably only be a gesture. If you argue that the town will benefit from killing someone with a big ego, I'm sure you could contend to get him lynch. I'd surely vote for him; I think you could get a few more. Cause young's ego has been bigger than BM or my own this game... | ||
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On August 08 2010 08:29 Foolishness wrote: I'm voting to keep BM alive. | ||
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On August 08 2010 11:51 Bill Murray wrote: i told you all we should have lynched foolishness or someone who is actually red shall we lynch foolishness together tomorrow? | ||
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On August 08 2010 12:39 tree.hugger wrote: Show nested quote + On August 08 2010 12:31 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: On August 08 2010 11:51 Bill Murray wrote: i told you all we should have lynched foolishness or someone who is actually red shall we lynch foolishness together tomorrow? You two are suddenly working together? Wait, what? And I've never been in a game where we got red with the first kill. There's a ton of factors that make it really difficult to pull off, but mainly it's just that we don't have good evidence on anyone. And that's no matter what you know, or (more likely) think you know about Foolishness or anyone else. We'll have more evidence after tonight, I guess. I don't think Foolishness is mafia, and I don't think you've proved it in any way. What kind of proof do you think exists in this game? He's acting completely different than he does as town, he's freaking out to defend BM against two different people with legitimate concerns, and he's going directly against his usual play-style of scumhunting on day 1. | ||
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On August 08 2010 13:08 Foolishness wrote: Show nested quote + On August 08 2010 12:31 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: On August 08 2010 11:51 Bill Murray wrote: i told you all we should have lynched foolishness or someone who is actually red shall we lynch foolishness together tomorrow? Aren't you supposed to be arguing with BM? I recall you making multiple posts about how when BM flips red I'm for sure his mafia buddy. Which is strange as a whole since BM has been actively opposing me for a while now...but I guess that's just cause he realized you were obviously townie so he turned to look at the next best player who could be mafia and here I was! Say, have you dared to notice how this thread has been dominated by the same 10ish people? I mean surely you have to have realized that you've been holding conversations in the thread with the same people over and over and over again. I only happened to take notice when I decided to make a list of the inactive/lurkers. And I got 16-20 people on that list, give or take. And now I beg to wonder...when you, BM, Divinek, Pandain, and youngminii are through killing each other off, how you going to find the rest of the mafia? Do you even have any idea who among the lurkers is probably innocent and who's suspicious? Probably not because you're busy formulating the town plan and looking at the active players (there's nothing wrong with this at all, I'm just saying how it is). Now it seems very reasonable to me (and I'd hope a few others) that all you goody active players just toss your ego's aside for a moment and take care to notice of the fact that good players who are normally active are pretty much mia this entire game (i.e. Chezinu, Infundibulum, DTA). Not to mention some veteran is smurfing under the name VayeshMoru. Perhaps we should be looking here since when the lot of you are finish killing yourselves off the town is going to be screwed. And I do realize that there's a better chance I'm going to invent a perpetual motion device tomorrow than of this happening, but I guess I just secretly hope someone takes note of this and learns from it. I don't see any reason why this game isn't a repeat of the one BM hosted. Mafia sit back and do nothing and watch town kill themselves. Yes I realize it got a tad bit complicated in the middle but still. I know you're probably thinking at some point "Well hey Foolishness, you are normally more active that you're currently being why should we pay more attention to Chezinu than you?" Truth is, I don't have time to deal with all your "town plans" that probably aren't going to work and your suspicions against me. I got a job to do, I'm weeding out mafia members among the lurkers. And that's what I do best. It's day one and I don't got much to go on since nobody is pressuring any of the lurkers, but I'd like to think I'm getting somewhere with it. And there are more than enough people that can vouch that I'm active in PM land. You go do what you do. I'm going to go do what I do. I'll talk to you when it's necessary and I have information. If you or BM or anyone keep taking one-liner shots at me in the thread, don't expect a response, I don't have the time. I still think you and BM are Mafias numeros uno y dos. BM won't kill you; I'm just calling his bluff. The same people were in the thread a long time because we are the few awake and on TL at that time. We argued over plans too much, it got too complicated, whatever. A lot of that was your buddy BM who kept trying to make sure an integral part of the plan was that mafia find out who blues were or that BM would get medic protection. The weird lurkers are worth thinking about but there are probably a lot of ninjas in there. Let's see how many of these big name inactives die tonight to ninja shots. | ||
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On August 08 2010 15:08 Bill Murray wrote: Show nested quote + On August 08 2010 12:31 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: On August 08 2010 11:51 Bill Murray wrote: i told you all we should have lynched foolishness or someone who is actually red shall we lynch foolishness together tomorrow? i doubt all 3 of us will be alive (if foolishness is town with us), honestly right, cuz you're gonna kill us tonight and like there was any chance you were gonna try to lynch foolishness day 1 you didn't tell anyone to lynch foolishness until I pointed out the obvious link between you two | ||
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