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I'd assume that it's Hesmyrr because he would probably believe that his 33% chance of getting a role that's probably already taken is useless. On August 25 2010 09:25 Hesmyrr wrote: Right, I picked one of the anti-town roles using RNG generator. Since we are prioritizing copycat solely due to CV snipe possibility, and thus we need to know who the copycat is, how about giving it to completely arbitrary # that is between 5~9? This is my idea of how to make it completely fair. Look at the first post of five users in this thread right after this post: add the individual numbers of the post time. So referring to citi.zen post above mine, since it is posted 08:29 it should be 8+2+9=19. So after adding the numbers, if the last digits of the number is 1-2, then copycat goes to #5, if 3-4 #6, if 5-6 #7, 7-8 #8, 9-0 #9. ex) MY POST citi.zen (11:39) 1+1+3+9=14 citi.zen -IGNORED SINCE NOT FIRST POST- Bill Murray (12:57) 1+2+5+7=15 Hesmyrr (12:58) 1+2+5+8=16 Radfield (13:01) 1+3+0+1=5 Hesmyrr -IGNORED SINCE NOT FIRST POST- bumatlarge (15:43) 1+5+4+3=13 14+15+16+5+13 = 63, 3 is the last digit so #6 chooses a copycat. or of course we can just give copycat to #5 like citi.zen suggests. Are we taking measures to check if #5 will really take copycat like what I am doing in #4 spot? He also said this. I'm going to go out on a limb here and because he said his role is anti-town. Do you mind us lynching you Hesmyrr? I have a very good reason to believe that lynching you is a good idea if you indeed were the one who stole my role as my role was anti-town as well. The first 3 would have no reason to change roles as it's beneficial for both town and mafia to take those roles first. #5 would also most likely want JOAT or a defensive role as well. Thus my suspicion falls on Hesmyrr. I would like to know of your role. | ||
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@Citi.zen You have no idea how mad I was D:. I thought I'd be sure to get Traitor and then this morning I woke up to find that Ace sent me another PM (as opposed to the one before the draft order) saying I was a vanilla townie. >< | ||
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On August 25 2010 09:25 Hesmyrr wrote: Right, I picked one of the anti-town roles using RNG generator. This could be a soft claim from him to the mafia as traitor. None of the actual townies would find this suspicious at all as we were trying to take roles away from the mafia anyways but the mafia would look at that and think, maybe he's softclaiming to us? They'd quite easily put any of their power roles on him to try and convert him if it's true. (They'd not bother using a KP on him obviously). | ||
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On August 26 2010 01:46 zeks wrote: Picking traitor was already an extremely anti town move on sr's part. But since he didn't get it we can assume he's town. However I think his intentions were not pro town from the start by attempting to pick traitor; its just the cirumstances right now that make him pro town. As for hesmyrr being traitor ill wait for his posts before making a decision I picked it on a whim. I wanted to make the game a bit more epic. I was actually gonna pick CV when I saw the draft order with me on top but the changes had me thinking a bit more. Also the bolded part is the reason why I'm screwed if Ace made a mistake that he wants to change to the roles given out or the draft order again. It's probably not going to happen though. | ||
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On August 26 2010 02:46 Pandain wrote: Um guys seriously? SERIOUSLY? What the fadoodle. Isn't it obvious? SR is lying. He's either serial killer or scum(most likely serial killer, his actions seem to be more acting on his own). All he's doing is spreading doubt on the above. #Vote SouthRawrer main things to keep in mind for now: 1. Why didn't he follow the plan 2. Why the hell did he pick traitor. He says "To make the game more epic." Seriously? Why has no one been hounding on him. He knew of the plan, and knew we were going to run with it(he even was going to pick CV originally). Then what does he do? Disregards it. 3. Why would someone else pick traitor? I mean, seriously. That's the dumbest move imaginable. I'll be compiling a list of his posts. Regardless of my former intentions, this would be a horrible move on my part as if I'm wrong about my 1 in 5 educated guess that I made, I'm going to get lynched. Get a brain. | ||
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Second, vengeful player is a pro-town role. It's not a large leap of trust at all to have them not kill someone if they did end up getting lynched. Would we also not want mafia to avoid having this role? Say there is a confirmed townie under constant protection, they're not safe from a MAFIA vengeful player killing them during his own lynch. I wasn't saying it was a high priority role but it certainly is helpful for town to have it. Serial Killer? Really? Why would I as an SK promote my own lynch if I'm wrong? SK isn't able to pick traitor either so how on earth would I know that a traitor exists within the top 5. Stop spouting nonsense. | ||
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On August 26 2010 03:39 zeks wrote: The reason I won't be voting SR is that I just think it would be a huge gambit on his part (if he's scum) just to try to frame a traitor on the top 5 - and in a 1 for 1 trade situation thats just totally irrational. Trading one scum for someone in the top 5 (where many of them are gonna die anyway) is just stupid. I think he knows a bit better than that. Hesmyrr: His counter claim is valid. The only thing I'm worried about is that he did counter claim CV - which is the safest counter claim as it should be a given at this point that CV was drafted #1 by rastaban. But after everything happened we cannot guarantee that both PoD and Bad Santa have been taken. So if in the case Hesmyrr is scum then the CV claim would make sense from him. Nevertheless he may be honest and did RNG CV and is just a townie. I'm not sold on Hesmyrr yet either way, but we really need to hear from chaoser/LSB. I do suspect both of them to a certain extent (chaoser a bit more because I understand a little about how he plays). So right now for me its between 2,3,4. It's not a gambit at all. If I were scum I would not choose traitor and if I were SK I cannot choose traitor due to the game's rules. If I were not traitor, it'd be an absolutely insane idea to guess that a traitor was in the top 5 unless I was denied the role. In the case that I am wrong about Hesmyrr, I am getting lynched as town has to make sure I was telling the truth. Possibilities: 1) Hesmyrr:traitor Rawrea:green -> We benefit 2) Hesmyrr:green Rawrea:red -> mafia loses a member and nets a green kill 3) Hesmyrr:green Rawrea:green -> we know that there is still a traitor in the top 5 (now 4) or I'm just trolling and we lose 2 greens 4) Hesmyrr:green Rawrea: SK -> SK gets lynched and loses after making a horrible play, town loses a green and traitor can be ANYWHERE | ||
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On August 26 2010 03:42 Pandain wrote: It was ok(not good, but allowable) for the #15(Divinek) to change his thing. You are #6. The plan was not ruined. Not only that, you picked traitor. As for vengeful player, as you said in a previous post anything that adds kp to mafia is bad. Vengeful player in the hands of a mafia, adds kp. Unless you now disagree with yourself. IF WE TAKE IT, IT'S TOWN KP NOT MAFIA KP. | ||
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On August 26 2010 03:50 Pandain wrote: And how would you know town would take it? This was all while we were discussing what the draft order and plan should be. You're not getting anywhere with your arguments. | ||
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On August 26 2010 04:45 bumatlarge wrote: And why would hesmyr being town confirm rastaban as town? Wouldnt that jst be confirming him as comp vig? Maybe im missing a step, I follow the zeks confriming though. Anyway, lynch hesmyrr kill south if not a traitor sounds reasonable. ##unvote divinek ##vote Hesmyrr You are correct! It's kinda easy to get stuck in that mindset though due to experience in other games. | ||
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