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On October 14 2010 13:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2010 13:32 Kpyolysis32 wrote: My first observation from this: d3_crescentia appears to fit the scholar description in bumatlarge's death, from his profile. d3_crescentia is not in this game. he has been replaced by ghrur, i posted about this already. i didnt realize this before, but i assume you won't tell us if any of the day 1 clues are obsolete with player switches now, would you
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On October 14 2010 14:22 aztrorisk wrote:Show nested quote +In fact, the ghost did -not- save you. And none of the reds attacked you. Quit your posing. hehe, how are you so sure? If you don't like it, just ignore it. you are not nearly as important as you're making yourself out to be -.- we need to track down who these reds have supported. they might be vets but i'm sure even us newbies can find SOMETHING at least.
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48 hour days son. go calm down.
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On October 14 2010 14:27 aztrorisk wrote:Show nested quote +you are not nearly as important as you're making yourself out to be -.- we need to track down who these reds have supported. they might be vets but i'm sure even us newbies can find SOMETHING at least maybe you'll see my importance when I die and their happens to a pumpkin at your door? sure sure lets see a show of hands. who thinks this guy should be medic'd to prevent a curse/kill combo, because he's super important and his incredible analytical skills means that his pumpkins will land right on target and kill off two mafia members as soon as he dies?
don't try to intimidate anyone across the internet tough guy. doesn't work.
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On October 14 2010 14:36 KhrisKruel wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2010 13:44 jcarlsoniv wrote:On October 14 2010 13:41 Coagulation wrote: HOLY FUCKING CAT Kpyolysis32
i dont wanna seem kind of harsh but if this isnt an obvious link to scum then i dont know what is. Guys, the clues won't be as obvious as the one we used to lynch Masq. They could be, yes. I don't believe they will be though. Stop pointing fingers so fast, I don't want another Day 1 shit show -_- you mean a day 1 shit fest in which scum got lynched? Yeah clue speculation doesn't work at all. Unless you are a vampire of course. That didn't go well for vamps at all. Dr H will not be making clues as obvious again. that much is certain.
day 1 was horrible, did you read it? i know its a lot but you can't come in here not knowing what actually went down.
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On October 14 2010 19:42 KhrisKruel wrote: I want to put my two cents in about blue roles.
Firstly, if you have a blue role, for the love of god don't claim unless you have a good reason. Don't even hint at them. You are giving the scum more information to easily make their nightkills.
Secondly, don't discuss what blue roles need to do. NB did this during day 1, and he was the mafia godfather. Blue roles will do what blue roles do, and they will give us information when they want us to.
Thirdly, don't claim to people in PM's. Don't listen to them when they say others have already claimed. You have no idea if they are townie or not, and knowing who you are you will die and the town will lose a blue role.
If that person tries to gain your trust by showing you a PM of them from DrH, they're cheating. They can tell you any role they have. All role PMs are public. Also, we were given two role pms, one of which has been changed. How do you know he isn't showing you the one given before?
As a rule, people discussing blue actions and asking people to PM them are never trustworthy. I hope the newbies to mafia don't fall into this. If you are a blue role, do what you think is best and don't listen to what anyone else tells you. Don't play WIFOM games of "well if we talk abou tit, then it won't happen." Just do what you believe is best. Don't worry about failing. Failing would be letting the mafia influence your night action for their benefit.
As a rule I'm highly suspicious of anyone discussing blue actions publicly. Huh, this is the perfect way to play IF YOU WANT SCUM TO WIN. FoS
Why? Well then town is COMPLETELY disorganized, while scum is still perfectly intact. It'll take forever to confirm townies and even longer to confirm reds. You're highly suspicious of anyone discussing blue actions? Well I'm highly suspicious of you.
Your posts:
On October 14 2010 10:02 KhrisKruel wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Hey guys sorry I missed out on day 1. I didn't have access to the thread. I'm quite amazed we got a scum on day 1, but then again I'm not used to clue dynamics. I'm catching up now and I'm on page 13. I thought I'd share this nice gem with you guys that I noticed. On October 11 2010 15:48 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2010 15:33 Veldril wrote: Secondly, I believe that there's old-school player here so we might be able to check their previous post first before making an accusation. Analyzing the old posts in previous games might become useful if you have time to do it. LOL. YOU JUST ADMITTED YOU'D BUDDY WHEN MAFIA, AND YOU'VE BEEN DOING IT WITH MASQ. I DON'T MEAN TO BE FUNNY WITH HALLOWEEN-REFERENCES, BUT THAT WAS REALLY THE NAIL IN YOUR COFFIN MR VAMPIRE LOL Let me clarify: NAIL IN YOUR COFFIN MR VAMPIRE LOL Let me clarify more: MR VAMPIRE Let me clarify 3 more times: VAMPIRE VAMPIRE VAMPIRE I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm looking for vampires AND mafia...anyone have thoughts on this? An incredibly stupid post that concentrates more on the fact that BM was making a joke than anything else (he mentions the possibility of both mafia AND vampire). I thought I'd let it slide since you weren't pushing that hard, and at least held a sliver of truth.
The other thing you were doing that annoyed me was your claim of having "experience" by telling people how they should play the game when you're clearly wrong.
On October 14 2010 12:24 KhrisKruel wrote: how someone plays a game is not a reason to vote for them, even if they're annoying. Any green/blue lynches are bad for the town.
Voting for information is stupid too. Say we have a dumbass greenie who's charismatic and pushes extremely hard for whoever his suspicions first land on, and people actually bandwagon. Way more townies would get lynched. Suppose a dumbass greenie is bored with his role and just reads the threads to make dumb jokes and poke fun at people. Suppose a lot of dumbass greenies are inactive because their role sucks and so they don't want to play, helping to hide scum. Voting for information is stupid? That is retarded, day 1 how the fuck else are you going to get information? You want us to rely on clues, Mr I've-Got-Tons-Of-Mafia-Experience?
The rest of your posts go on attacking Veldril who's already vampire in most people's eyes. Sure, that's safe, even beneficial if you're mafia. You're getting really scummy in my eyes.
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On October 15 2010 00:26 CubEdIn wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2010 20:56 Hittegods wrote:On October 14 2010 18:38 CubEdIn wrote: I want to vote for BM's replacement, but I can't help thinking it's sort-of unfair.
Why? Well, if you read the mafia ban list thread, you'll see that:
1. BM threatened to reveal ALL his PMs 2. DrH was "shocked" about him doing this.
Now, of course, I know that DrH could be shocked because BM is a veteran, and he shouldn't have acted like that, sure, but also, he could have been surprised because revealing his PMs would ruin the game.
And it would only ruin the game if he were M/V, and he got a lot of PMs from the other team members. Also, BM claimed to have >70 PMs, why would a townie have so many PMs?
I don't know. I'd like NOT to vote for him, for the sake of the "good-game-spirit", but in my head, I'm 90% sure he is M/V. He messaged more or less everyone who posted about who their top suspects were. This would no doubt generate a lot of messages. Yes, it -somewhat- explains the number of messages, but then again, it's the kind of thing a red would do. Pick-up clues. Also, the thing that urges me on is DrH's reaction to BM's threat. It's not damning, but it's sure suspicious. I explained why. He's not off my radar. And thirdly, does't it strike you as odd that all but one kills were on target? I mean sure, M/V have more information, but this was A LOT of information. Basically, only one or two of the kills tonight even came up in our suspects list, how did the others know who to go for? I'm intrigued. The high accuracy rate surprises me too. Either I suck more at this game than I thought or something big is happening in PM land.
I doubt the mafia was looking to kill vamp brute, or vamps looked for GF, and both sides just got lucky. All in all its still really really surprising.
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On October 15 2010 06:55 CubEdIn wrote: Cool, I'm being suspected, makes me feel important!
Anyway, you can check, this is my first game, so I didn't really think that NOT voting for Veldril on the first hour of day 2 would somewhat incriminate me. I guess it makes sense, since it does seem that I tried to cast blame OFF Veldril TO Masq (and I did, lol), but it was also fairly obvious back then that Veldril would die if Masq is mafia.
This is reflected in today's votes, but me voting for him as well (now that I've been accused) will only look like an attempt to cover my tracks. I probably WILL end up voting for him anyway, since nobody else seems close to being more of a positive match, but since he's already heavily under the gun, I don't think my vote in particular would cause more pressure (he's currently top voted with 10 votes vs 2 votes for the next candidate).
However, my biggest problem as of now, is not who to vote for, since I already have Veldril to aim for, but who ELSE is a suspect.
Think about it, on day one we had masq, and then a shitstorm of posts that incriminated a lot of people (and if you don't believe that they did, take a look at the kill count in night 1). I, frankly, didn't catch those "hints" which has me worried.
If Mafia/Vamp managed to aim correctly since night one, then those hints were there, for sure. Why did we not see them as well? What are we not seeing now?
I need to go through all this thread again but I don't have time right now, and it's only getting bigger. After that (prolly in about 12h or so), I'll set my vote. Frankly, I think that I'll end up voting for Veldril anyway, but I'm not convinced that he's Vamp just yet, I was way, way more "sure" of masq. Downside is that, apart from him, everyone else is just a blur.
Keep in mind that people may have been incriminated via PM too.
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On October 16 2010 14:20 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2010 13:25 CubEdIn wrote:
Gut feeling now says: BM's successor. this looks like our best bet now if we dont get any major implications from night post. you mean day post right?
sucks that we lost a vigi to inactivity evens things out a lot...
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jodo is on the top of my list right now. No other lead is conclusive.
DTs I hope you're confirming townies and getting together because we really really need blue support now
I'm guessing we only have one or two ghosts left, most likely one, so I really don't like the situation we're in.
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