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On March 29 2011 09:37 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 09:32 Mr. Wiggles wrote: But then why does it say that Annul got hit twice? Was that a joke? Right now, if annul got hit twice, you're proposing there was 5 KP last night, or else the Day post was misguiding. The KP are explained as 2 on annul - 1 from red, 1 from a redirected hit from Coag who wanted to hit Tack 1 on Kav - black/red 1 on GM - black/red That's 4
I must have misinterpreted... Coagulation did you tell darm that you had a gun?
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On March 29 2011 09:39 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 09:38 bumatlarge wrote: Because of his vest item. Accuse me all you want, I can't clarify any more then that. Wait, LW had the vest, not annul
:X my brain is fried. I meant tackster having the vest, but LW has had it the entire game? Sigh man, either way it doesn't matter about the vest because I was wrong about it. Is coagulation around?
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On March 29 2011 09:42 Kavdragon wrote: Yeah, my guess at this point is that someone redirected Coag's shot into annul. Not a switch, but a redirection.
Alright, I think it does do us some benefit though. Scum knew coag has a gun and redirected it, but KP was used on him before that.
The two other KP were used on Kav and GM. Ok that makes sense... to a degree.
Still, this puts tackster as more scummy then LW in my book.
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On March 29 2011 09:44 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 09:41 Lanaia wrote:On March 29 2011 09:39 chaoser wrote:On March 29 2011 09:37 Jackal58 wrote:On March 29 2011 09:29 bumatlarge wrote: Nice tnk, that explains a lot. Let's see what I can do.
My DT: Checked Lemon, switched with me and came back as that. Makes perfect sense because that is my role. I believe that explains any FoS we could have had against him. He is no longer a suspect. I WAS NOT HIT LAST NIGHT
Scum KP: Red's hit annul. Simple as that, I could explain it but then I would have to kill you. Black/red hit GMarshal and Kav. Kav is alive, GMarshal is dead.
Coag KP: Used on tackster. Did not die. Bus already used, so he had to be protected. He clearly did not use his item, because coagulation says he did, which was the only item used, plus tackster should have claimed he used the item. IIRC, he never claimed a hit.
If you want to live tackster you need to answer this post. Lemon is no longer a bigger suspect then you.
Bullshit. I have my fucking dick stretched across half the globe to win the IG and ultimately the entire game for town and that's the best you can do??? Bullshit. And explain the Tack is 100% scum to 85 - 100% scum to now you're looking scummier than LW. Ok you need to calm down...pretty sure bum isn't scum by this point. The fact that you're suggesting it shows that you need to chill the fuck out. Blues not claiming at this point would be pretty fail and we would deserve to lose. No, we wouldn't deserve to lose, the blues would. However, you're right in saying that Jackal needs to calm down. Jackal, bud, go take a nap or a nice bubble bath or something. Only scum hide their junk in bubbles. But seriously. I have put my neck out as far as it can go and bum comes up with a bs line from Top Gun. Sorry but I have some shit invested in this.
Dont worry about it Im not gonna let you die if i can help it.
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On March 29 2011 09:47 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 09:41 bumatlarge wrote:On March 29 2011 09:39 chaoser wrote:On March 29 2011 09:38 bumatlarge wrote: Because of his vest item. Accuse me all you want, I can't clarify any more then that. Wait, LW had the vest, not annul :X my brain is fried. I meant tackster having the vest, but LW has had it the entire game? Sigh man, either way it doesn't matter about the vest because I was wrong about it. Is coagulation around? Just explain the Tackster is 100% scum and then the downgrading.
Confusion in the ranks, I thought we had done something that we didnt actually do. If we did, tackster would be scum 100%.
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EDITTED!
My DT: Checked Lemon, switched with me and came back as that. Makes perfect sense because that is my role. I believe that explains any FoS we could have had against him. He is no longer a suspect. I WAS NOT HIT LAST NIGHT
Scum KP: Scum hit annul. Simple as that, I could explain it but then I would have to kill you. Black/red hit GMarshal and Kav. Kav is alive, GMarshal is dead.
Coag KP: Used on tackster, but it switched to annul. A bus already used. IIRC, he never claimed a hit. So, either coagulation really shot annul, or scum knew tackster would get shot and somehow redirected the shot at annul. IF A BUS WAS USED ON ANNUL AND TACK, THE OTHER SHOT WOULD HAVE KILLED TACKSTER. I think...
Either coagulation is lying, or tackster had scum buddies in high places. Based on IG consensus where all but one is scum, coagulation is not scum and tackster is. They could be wrong, but I find it unlikely.
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I don't think coagulation lied. He meant to shoot tackster and it hit annul.
Well, looks like people aren't really using their items well. Only one person was able to use his item. Only problem is that he found himself in the wrong place. He stood over the dead body of Annul and wondered what happened. And why was there two bullets when he only loaded one in his gun? And what's up with all the blood smeared on him?
That would mean LSB covering for Coag's lie. That doesn't make sense. Tack is the only reasonable choice to label as scum.
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Can you please just trust me on the annul hit. He was shot before coag's shot hit him. I'm not allowed to explain it. Plus, the same mysterious sources that told me annul got shot by scum, also tells me scum is desperate, and is fairly certain they won't win the IG.
Tackster being the prime suspect and that coming out does not surprise me. I'll be putting my vote on tack for now.
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That's pretty insulting deconduo, I know I have missed ALOT of details, but I know what I am doing. There is a lot of information that I am processing, and a ridiculous amount of outcomes I could throw together. I need to focus on just the IG at the moment, as it is where I've directed myself and my team's attention, I as I feel it is the easiest way to add to my rather large confirmed list. I know it seems like I pulled darm out of my ass, but I assure you I put the exact same effort I am now coming up with what made him scum as I have with tackster.
If you don't think that I haven't pictured Kav as a solid black scum, then you are underestimating me. Reactions and general townie opinions have driven my vote. Have I done extensive analysis on anyone but darm yet? No. Have I clearly read the thread properly? Yes.
It's funny because I know scum wouldn't call me out on not putting enough effort because I am right on course. Congrats decon!
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There is a possibility the blacks could have shot annul. I just know that a KP was used on annul, and the opposite faction probably used the mindcontrol thingy jigger.
And kav it isn't important to start defending yourself right now, we can discuss that later, because even if you might be black, it isn't as important since we know the red in the IG is close. And of course I remember that game kav... -_-
Tackster, you are also quoting wrong references, at least form me. That KP list was flawed in regards to you and coagulation, I corrected it with some help from townies.
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On March 30 2011 03:05 Tackster wrote: *sigh*
Now that Bum says he can't confirm the color of the KP on annul this whole thing needs to be done again.
Bum stop making mistakes goddamit!!
Where did I say that? It's reasonable to assume it was red, but black would still benefit. People gave good reasons to why only red would shoot in the IG, so it's clear they tried someway, but black would as well, even if it was just to kill annul
It's kinda fun not making sense. You guys should seen the plan I had cooked up to have one of my blues counter claim me, oh boy you guys would have been yelling at me so much. But alas, there is already enough on everyone's plate, that crucial discussion could not be wasted
Amuse me some more tackster.
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And now bum using his position as leader to make mistakes and then laugh in the face of them…
Like I would need to mayor to do that lol
Well if I told you I could probably salvage the outcome of the IG no matter what the lynch is tack? What would you say then?
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On March 30 2011 04:57 Tackster wrote: If annul was shot by black instead of red we need to consider why.
Oh I know - to hit the other red in the item game and not give red an advantage.
But yea that's a terrible idea. Why bother trying to stop the only team that can't really kill you.
Well I suppose if they can't kill you they'll do their best to out you!! Possibly with some ITEMS!!
DONT CONSIDER WHY, DONT GO INTO IT I CANT TELL YOU I KNOW.
JUST SHUT UP AND DIE.
Geez darm went down nice and easy, his last post made me really consider switching but I trusted my instincts and my thought process. You are making an absurd amount of posts all gearing the conversation to you, when I don't really care! Coagulation is 100% town, and all scum powers were used. We just need to try to keep him or another townie alive. I'm not even that concerned about town getting the items, just as long as mafia don't get them. They won't.
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lemon over jackal btw if tackster isnt scum.
No contest.
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Fine you really want to be alive? It doesn't matter to me. I'm not some supreme court judge, but I need this IG game resolved. It's gotta be you or lemon. There is a lot of unwarranted slack on you tackster I admit it, and 22 votes to 3 or whatever doesn't look right. But you squirm like no one I've ever seen. I've read the thread twice and all I see is mile long posts about why you are innocent with very little reference to much else in the game. If you were a really vital role I could understand but a vanilla townie is something where you give it up and tell town what to do after he dies. Making all this fuss makes it so hard to see you as a green townie and not some mafia.
You ever read that story "A piece string"? A poor dude picks up a piece of string, some guy thinks its a wallet he picks up and he spends the entire time ranting about how it wasn't a wallet it was really a piece of string. He raves about it so much no one can really believe him over a petty thing like that. Just cause he can't stomach people thinking he is a liar. While he is right, it doesn't do him any good.
I feel bad. You've made me feel bad, you and deconduo. It's your first game or whatever and you really need to prove this so why not. It does not play a big role in my grand scheme of things, but it will help if we win it.
Man im so bummed.
Voting lemon walrus.
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On March 30 2011 08:30 ilovejonn wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2011 08:27 bumatlarge wrote: Fine you really want to be alive? It doesn't matter to me. I'm not some supreme court judge, but I need this IG game resolved. It's gotta be you or lemon. There is a lot of unwarranted slack on you tackster I admit it, and 22 votes to 3 or whatever doesn't look right. But you squirm like no one I've ever seen. I've read the thread twice and all I see is mile long posts about why you are innocent with very little reference to much else in the game. If you were a really vital role I could understand but a vanilla townie is something where you give it up and tell town what to do after he dies. Making all this fuss makes it so hard to see you as a green townie and not some mafia.
You ever read that story "A piece string"? A poor dude picks up a piece of string, some guy thinks its a wallet he picks up and he spends the entire time ranting about how it wasn't a wallet it was really a piece of string. He raves about it so much no one can really believe him over a petty thing like that. Just cause he can't stomach people thinking he is a liar. While he is right, it doesn't do him any good.
I feel bad. You've made me feel bad, you and deconduo. It's your first game or whatever and you really need to prove this so why not. It does not play a big role in my grand scheme of things, but it will help if we win it.
Man im so bummed.
Voting lemon walrus. If anyone I did not expect you to switch.
It's to the point where I dont care about his alignment, I dont have that much invested in it, and I like to make people happy.
Que coagulation and jackal ripping me a new one. Two guys I think are pretty certain town. :/
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On March 30 2011 08:37 CubEdIn wrote: Coag, there's more to this than meets the eye. You may be trusting the wrong person. Unless you're scum, in which case, Bravo.
Coagulation isn't scum bro. I'm just gonna do what I think is right. Did it with darm, and Im doing it here. Hope this lynch goes by quickly so we can get on to other things.
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You know how I said scum were giving up on the IG? They gave up a little after I put the lemon check up. I didnt check into that more.
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On March 30 2011 08:45 CubEdIn wrote: OK, TIME FOR THE CUBE!!
*cue Eye of the Tiger* EPIC PLAN OF EPICNESS
So, if you guys didn't figure it out yet, I'm blue. Yes, blue. Bum can vouch for me if needed, but if you guys didn't see it by now then you suck @ mafia lol.
Don't worry though, the reds and blacks already knew this, because I slipped in another part of the game that's not open to the publique! (that's public in a language I just made up)
So, here's the deal boys and girls: 1. We lynch Lemon now. 2. If he flips green, we (the blues) get rid of Tackster during the night. YES, WE CAN. (lol)
The only issue here is, which townie do we want in the game? We risk either way, but I'd rather Tackster lives, as he seems to be much more active.
Chances of this failing: yes, if Coag is mafia.
So ask yourselves, is it worth risking to kill Tackster, or is it work risking to kill Lemon. Which was more pro-town? AS I SAID, THEY CAN BOTH DIE EITHER WAY. SCUM is not taking the IG. Unless we have Coag as red. In which case they were taking the IG anyway.
What is this shit?
+ Show Spoiler +Yeah hes blue alright now i dont have to deal with this town shit
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