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On May 04 2011 11:51 Conversion wrote: /confirm
fml i picked ap week to sign up for this
BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW booo good luck with those!
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So much delicious flavor in that story. Well written, node
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On May 04 2011 14:46 orgolove wrote: Is Irish a new player? Could make sense if he's new - he wouldn't want his first game end so quickly. Irish seems like he's claiming to be a pretty experienced player, what with him linking to a Mafia group outside TL that he is a member of.
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On May 05 2011 04:33 Kurumi wrote: Numbers? What numbers? 13 2 6 3 2 2 13? They're just to cast more suspicion on me,like hey! Random numbers MUST be something! No. I just felt like typing them. My type of posting might be connected to English being my second language (the biggest thing is repeating names which I am not comfortable with,where in Polish I need to find 2347234 possibilities to avoid typing the same thing in one,even two sentences.) It was wrong to assume my thought process will apply to everyone and I understand that mistake. Just to put some emphasis: 13 2 6 3 2 2 13 is nothing,but I might get some link if You want to make them mystical,You know. Unless you're a 13 year old girl who thinks she is "z0mG s0o0o0o0 rAnDuMB!!!@~``1", you got it. Clearest scum signal so far along with:
On May 04 2011 17:19 orgolove wrote:Lies. Haunted Mafia: Show nested quote +On October 24 2010 09:58 LSB wrote:On October 24 2010 09:44 zerroth wrote:On October 24 2010 09:25 SiNiquity wrote:On October 24 2010 07:47 redtooth wrote: vote HeavOnEarth ... wtf. ? Whats up? Unvote vote HeavOnEarth redtooth isn't playing. He probably forgot to log onto his smurf Insane Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 18:20 redtooth wrote: can we wait til insane 2 ends? then i can be in this one =) Another (as of yet unknown) game: Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 05:31 redtooth wrote: can i /in? i haven't played a game in so long. is playing in 2 concurrent games still allowed?
not the item game btw. Lynch all liars. Lynch all liars indeed.
FOS: Kurumi Redtooth
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On May 05 2011 08:30 Cthsazsa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 08:13 Jackal58 wrote:On May 05 2011 07:13 Cthsazsa wrote: Why would we vote off inactives? We should leave them be. If they are mafia, well they aren't that much of a threat to us since they're not participating. On the other hand, if they're a townie then that'll just put a crutch in us. We'll lose a townie, PLUS we'd have wasted our votes.
People insisting that we vote off inactives just seems suspicious to me. Scum aren't a threat???? I know where my vote is going. Excuse me? I guess I misunderstand your meaning of inactive. I thought inactive is pretty self-explanatory. They're not actively participating in this game of Mafia, as I stated right after what you made bold in my post. Why are you so quick to point fingers and call me out as scum? You totally ignored the topic of my post, and instead exaggerated a few words to make my post appear misleading and anti-town. He is quick to call you out because you claimed that lurking scum isn't a threat. I'm sure you can see how suspicious that is...
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On May 05 2011 09:32 Cthsazsa wrote: If you say so big guy.
On May 05 2011 09:22 Cthsazsa wrote: You can quit trolling me now.
On May 05 2011 09:09 Cthsazsa wrote: I bet that's very entertaining.
On May 05 2011 08:42 Cthsazsa wrote: Nice conclusion there, Jackal. Very intelligent.
On May 05 2011 12:12 Cthsazsa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 12:11 Conversion wrote: no, but what you should do is act whiny and reply to people who object to your obviously bad town play and just cause more spam.
you're playing great, keep it up. /clap Will do!
So many of Cthsazsa's posts are wannabe aloof and flip, trying to shut down discussion. So much passive aggressiveness seems to me like you are trying way to hard to seem above suspicion.
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On May 05 2011 12:34 Cthsazsa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 12:31 elmizzt wrote:On May 05 2011 09:32 Cthsazsa wrote: If you say so big guy. On May 05 2011 09:22 Cthsazsa wrote: You can quit trolling me now. On May 05 2011 09:09 Cthsazsa wrote: I bet that's very entertaining. On May 05 2011 08:42 Cthsazsa wrote: Nice conclusion there, Jackal. Very intelligent. On May 05 2011 12:12 Cthsazsa wrote:On May 05 2011 12:11 Conversion wrote: no, but what you should do is act whiny and reply to people who object to your obviously bad town play and just cause more spam.
you're playing great, keep it up. /clap Will do! So many of Cthsazsa's posts are wannabe aloof and flip, trying to shut down discussion. So much passive aggressiveness seems to me like you are trying way to hard to seem above suspicion. What else is there to say? He's calling me scum for no real reason. Apparently he's trying to throw off everyone and get us to waste our day 1 votes. It's possible, I doubt that he wants that though. More likely he was trying to see how you react to some mild pressure. But your way overreaction and attitude makes me think that a vote for you on day 1 wouldn't be wasted at all.
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On May 05 2011 12:49 VarpuliS wrote: elmizzt, do you often refer to yourself in the third person?
Cthsazsa, you've used the "they want us to waste our votes" twice now, I believe. I've got my eye on you. You didn't respond well to jackal's tunneling, and now you disregard the reason elmizzt voted for you. FoS
I don't normally, and I don't think I did in those posts? o.O Unless you misread or I typed ambiguously. Or unless you are referring to something else. Clarify please?
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On May 05 2011 13:04 VarpuliS wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 12:58 elmizzt wrote:On May 05 2011 12:49 VarpuliS wrote: elmizzt, do you often refer to yourself in the third person?
Cthsazsa, you've used the "they want us to waste our votes" twice now, I believe. I've got my eye on you. You didn't respond well to jackal's tunneling, and now you disregard the reason elmizzt voted for you. FoS I don't normally, and I don't think I did in those posts? o.O Unless you misread or I typed ambiguously. Or unless you are referring to something else. Clarify please? Look at this post. Cthsazsa quotes you, responds to your post by saying: Show nested quote +What else is there to say? He's calling me scum for no real reason. Apparently he's trying to throw off everyone and get us to waste our day 1 votes. Your response is in the third person, even though he was asking about you. lol. Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 12:44 elmizzt wrote:On May 05 2011 12:34 Cthsazsa wrote:On May 05 2011 12:31 elmizzt wrote:On May 05 2011 09:32 Cthsazsa wrote: If you say so big guy. On May 05 2011 09:22 Cthsazsa wrote: You can quit trolling me now. On May 05 2011 09:09 Cthsazsa wrote: I bet that's very entertaining. On May 05 2011 08:42 Cthsazsa wrote: Nice conclusion there, Jackal. Very intelligent. On May 05 2011 12:12 Cthsazsa wrote:On May 05 2011 12:11 Conversion wrote: no, but what you should do is act whiny and reply to people who object to your obviously bad town play and just cause more spam.
you're playing great, keep it up. /clap Will do! So many of Cthsazsa's posts are wannabe aloof and flip, trying to shut down discussion. So much passive aggressiveness seems to me like you are trying way to hard to seem above suspicion. What else is there to say? He's calling me scum for no real reason. Apparently he's trying to throw off everyone and get us to waste our day 1 votes. It's possible, I doubt that he wants that though. More likely he was trying to see how you react to some mild pressure. But your way overreaction and attitude makes me think that a vote for you on day 1 wouldn't be wasted at all. Oh, I interpreted his post as referring to and defending his responses to jackal, so in my posts "he" was referring to jackal.
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On May 05 2011 13:13 Cthsazsa wrote: elmizzt you didn't answer my questions. varpulis answered your question. I think it was fairly well stated.
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On May 05 2011 13:22 VarpuliS wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 13:12 elmizzt wrote:On May 05 2011 13:04 VarpuliS wrote:On May 05 2011 12:58 elmizzt wrote:On May 05 2011 12:49 VarpuliS wrote: elmizzt, do you often refer to yourself in the third person?
Cthsazsa, you've used the "they want us to waste our votes" twice now, I believe. I've got my eye on you. You didn't respond well to jackal's tunneling, and now you disregard the reason elmizzt voted for you. FoS I don't normally, and I don't think I did in those posts? o.O Unless you misread or I typed ambiguously. Or unless you are referring to something else. Clarify please? Look at this post. Cthsazsa quotes you, responds to your post by saying: What else is there to say? He's calling me scum for no real reason. Apparently he's trying to throw off everyone and get us to waste our day 1 votes. Your response is in the third person, even though he was asking about you. lol. On May 05 2011 12:44 elmizzt wrote:On May 05 2011 12:34 Cthsazsa wrote:On May 05 2011 12:31 elmizzt wrote:On May 05 2011 09:32 Cthsazsa wrote: If you say so big guy. On May 05 2011 09:22 Cthsazsa wrote: You can quit trolling me now. On May 05 2011 09:09 Cthsazsa wrote: I bet that's very entertaining. On May 05 2011 08:42 Cthsazsa wrote: Nice conclusion there, Jackal. Very intelligent. On May 05 2011 12:12 Cthsazsa wrote:On May 05 2011 12:11 Conversion wrote: no, but what you should do is act whiny and reply to people who object to your obviously bad town play and just cause more spam.
you're playing great, keep it up. /clap Will do! So many of Cthsazsa's posts are wannabe aloof and flip, trying to shut down discussion. So much passive aggressiveness seems to me like you are trying way to hard to seem above suspicion. What else is there to say? He's calling me scum for no real reason. Apparently he's trying to throw off everyone and get us to waste our day 1 votes. It's possible, I doubt that he wants that though. More likely he was trying to see how you react to some mild pressure. But your way overreaction and attitude makes me think that a vote for you on day 1 wouldn't be wasted at all. Oh, I interpreted his post as referring to and defending his responses to jackal, so in my posts "he" was referring to jackal. Ah, I see. nvm then, I get what you were talking about. It's past midnight, and I have classes tomorrow. I'm going to sleep now, I'll see you all tomorrow. nighty varp
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On May 06 2011 04:15 orgolove wrote:Great post. We need to look at the people who've been pointing fingers indiscriminately, like 5, 18, and 22. Hmm... I'm trying to see a pattern here between the players the reds want to coordinate against or no. Are the numbers in chronological order of the way they were speaking out against? It seems that they are in the order that they appear in the roster in the OP. Basically the order that players signed up in.
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On May 06 2011 04:23 orgolove wrote: I mean - in terms of the order they spoke in the thread- i.e. chaoser, in order, accused 27, 21, 1, 22, 15, 9 in the thread within the span of 1 day.
Hm.
Can you give me this spreadsheet? I may have some pattern recognition software that I might be able to gather, and coordinate the time of the accusatory posts with the contents to see if a particular group of players (reds) were on-line and accusing the same person at around the same point in time. oh, that's embarrassing lol. my mistake
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On May 06 2011 04:28 orgolove wrote: Oh wow. I didn't even realize it was chaoser himself that made the spreadsheet. Ugh. Hmm.... No, it was eternalmisfit.
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On May 06 2011 04:34 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2011 04:28 orgolove wrote: Oh wow. I didn't even realize it was chaoser himself that made the spreadsheet. Ugh. Hmm.... That's why You're voting on me? Because I did not make a spreadsheet? I will remember that in the next game,I will make a LOT of them,You know,just to be safe. You're misinterpreting his post. He voted chaoser based on the spreadsheet, but then questioned himself when he thought that chaoser himself made the spreadsheet. At least, that's my take on it.
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On May 06 2011 04:30 kitaman27 wrote:Redtooth He calls chaoser out for being too safe, yet rather than calling anyone out as scum, he posts a town list. It seems as if he doesn't want to upset anyone so early in the game. Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 02:20 kitaman27 wrote:On May 04 2011 21:37 redtooth wrote: @orgolove - The first vote was a joke between me and HeavonEarth (who I know very well from LoL days) where I wasn't in the game at all and just decided to poke at him anyways. On October 24 2010 18:01 redtooth wrote: ##vote Kitaman27 I assure everyone, there was no inside joke taking place when this vote was cast. The fact that you were smurfing in a previous game doesn't bother me, but what interests me is why would you lie about it. I called him out earlier on a lie, not because I care that he was smurfing, but to see how he responds and he completely ignores it. The way he disappears after stirring the pot makes him look shifty, but he claims to have real life obligations, which makes it tough to tell if he is lurking or not. I haven't forgotten about redtooth's dodge of the proof that he was lying either. I'm putting in my vote for him unless he posts an explanation.
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On May 06 2011 06:51 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2011 06:49 Cthsazsa wrote:On May 06 2011 06:33 redtooth wrote: Kitaman wants to see my birth certificate, Lol Yes,I do agree with Your analysis on birth certificate,but could You elaborate what Lol has to do with this? Do You think Lol is scum? is this language barrier or wtf? o.O
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On May 06 2011 06:55 Kurumi wrote:I think we shouldn't joke about Lol being scum. I know birth certificate behaved weird,but.. it does not make any sense! + Show Spoiler + Sorry, based on your previous posts, it seemed enough in line with them to be serious...
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On May 06 2011 07:04 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2011 06:59 Kurumi wrote:Again I stayed up for Mafia a bit too long,but I just want to see how it goes,so I will be lurking from my PSP in bed. Just a thought: I flip red,Irish and redtooth are suspicious. 3 Scum giveaway on Day1? Really? I don't think it is possible. I flip blue and people can't understand how I managed to get myself lynched I flip green and Irish and redtooth are not as suspicious,but every person nitpicking and tunneling me is now suspicious,together with bandwagoners and lurkers emerging just to vote on me. + Show Spoiler +I will flip rainbow,maybe even double one If you are blue, now´s the time to roleclaim. Show nested quote +On May 06 2011 07:00 redtooth wrote:On May 06 2011 06:56 Forumite wrote: Where does 70/30 come from? This is the last time I'm helping you. Seriously, stop acting like a baby and do the reasoning yourself. You're quickly losing any credibility you have with your empty questioning. Chaoser stated that he was 70% sure Irish was scum. That is the "70" part of 70/30. The "30" part of 70/30 comes from when you subtract 70 from 100 and then you get 30. Why are you arguing that day-vigilante is a good move by using probabilities you yourself think are wrong? I believe he is arguing against Chaoser by calling him out and saying that if Chaoser is really so confident (70%) then he should demand for a vig kill based on the math of the confidence Chaoser himself stated.
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redtooth, my issue was less with the possibility that you were smurfing, and more with the contradiction between this post where you claim to have been gone from the mafia forum for a year:
On May 04 2011 16:46 redtooth wrote: I've been gone from mafia forum for over a year now. If they're recent, I definitely didn't play in them. If they're not, I simply don't remember. The only smurf game I played was the invite-only one waaay back where I got policy-lynched for inactivity since I didn't realize the game had started (I still maintain that it was the host's fault for not alerting me on my main acc haha).
and these posts, where you post in the mafia forum as recently as 2 months ago:
On October 24 2010 07:47 redtooth wrote: vote HeavOnEarth
On April 04 2011 18:20 redtooth wrote: can we wait til insane 2 ends? then i can be in this one =)
On March 15 2011 05:31 redtooth wrote: can i /in? i haven't played a game in so long. is playing in 2 concurrent games still allowed?
not the item game btw.
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Good luck chaoser and redtooth with your studies!
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On May 08 2011 03:15 ilovejonn wrote:I think people need to think more about their votes. Sure you guys suspect redtooth, but like he said, is he really your BEST lynch for the day? Remember our most important KP comes from our votes. If you do not entirely or at least have a very high probability of thinking he is scum, I'd suggest reconsidering your vote to someone who you think has a higher chance than redtooth being scum. Today however, my vote is going on Beneather based on 2 quotes. Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 06:44 Beneather wrote: Really looking forward to playing this game :D lol. Going to be extremely active (: Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 08:19 Beneather wrote:On May 05 2011 08:13 Jackal58 wrote:On May 05 2011 07:13 Cthsazsa wrote: Why would we vote off inactives? We should leave them be. If they are mafia, well they aren't that much of a threat to us since they're not participating. On the other hand, if they're a townie then that'll just put a crutch in us. We'll lose a townie, PLUS we'd have wasted our votes.
People insisting that we vote off inactives just seems suspicious to me. Scum aren't a threat???? I know where my vote is going. Mafia slip :o Even if they do not participate in the discussion they still kill two of us. If they're inactive that means that they're lurking and don't want to get in to arguments to put suspicion on them so they do not get lynched. Pressuring inactives will make them active and find out if they're actually scum. The dude was seriously pumped before the game and even said he'd be extremely active. Once he got his role he became a total lurker. As pointed out by someone else, most of his posts talks about lurkers and inactives yet he does not consider himself being one! Extremely suspicious to me. Seems to me he does not know what to do after getting the scum role and just pretends to be away. On the second quote, notice how Cthsazsa raised a lot of suspicions as being scum. If we look at it this way, Beneather and Cthsazsa being on the same scum team, Beneather calling Cthsazsa on the mafia slip was like a little reminder from a person on your team. "Hey you slipped better watch what you say next time!" And then who does he decide to vote on at the end of the day? Kurumi! The easiest wagon to go on. If he thought Cthsazsa was scum, why didn't he decide to vote him? ##Vote: Beneather This is the only hard evidence I've seen so far. I'm voting beneather for now unless he says something to change my mind.
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On May 08 2011 11:36 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2011 11:31 elmizzt wrote:On May 08 2011 03:15 ilovejonn wrote:I think people need to think more about their votes. Sure you guys suspect redtooth, but like he said, is he really your BEST lynch for the day? Remember our most important KP comes from our votes. If you do not entirely or at least have a very high probability of thinking he is scum, I'd suggest reconsidering your vote to someone who you think has a higher chance than redtooth being scum. Today however, my vote is going on Beneather based on 2 quotes. On May 03 2011 06:44 Beneather wrote: Really looking forward to playing this game :D lol. Going to be extremely active (: On May 05 2011 08:19 Beneather wrote:On May 05 2011 08:13 Jackal58 wrote:On May 05 2011 07:13 Cthsazsa wrote: Why would we vote off inactives? We should leave them be. If they are mafia, well they aren't that much of a threat to us since they're not participating. On the other hand, if they're a townie then that'll just put a crutch in us. We'll lose a townie, PLUS we'd have wasted our votes.
People insisting that we vote off inactives just seems suspicious to me. Scum aren't a threat???? I know where my vote is going. Mafia slip :o Even if they do not participate in the discussion they still kill two of us. If they're inactive that means that they're lurking and don't want to get in to arguments to put suspicion on them so they do not get lynched. Pressuring inactives will make them active and find out if they're actually scum. The dude was seriously pumped before the game and even said he'd be extremely active. Once he got his role he became a total lurker. As pointed out by someone else, most of his posts talks about lurkers and inactives yet he does not consider himself being one! Extremely suspicious to me. Seems to me he does not know what to do after getting the scum role and just pretends to be away. On the second quote, notice how Cthsazsa raised a lot of suspicions as being scum. If we look at it this way, Beneather and Cthsazsa being on the same scum team, Beneather calling Cthsazsa on the mafia slip was like a little reminder from a person on your team. "Hey you slipped better watch what you say next time!" And then who does he decide to vote on at the end of the day? Kurumi! The easiest wagon to go on. If he thought Cthsazsa was scum, why didn't he decide to vote him? ##Vote: Beneather This is the only hard evidence I've seen so far. I'm voting beneather for now unless he says something to change my mind. Is this going to be your only post of the day cycle? You're doing to good job blending in... Yea, I'm not a heavy poster in mafia, but I read everything.
And don't you think posting less would be sticking out, and posting more blending in?
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On May 08 2011 11:47 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2011 11:38 GGQ wrote:On May 08 2011 11:36 kitaman27 wrote:On May 08 2011 11:31 elmizzt wrote:On May 08 2011 03:15 ilovejonn wrote:I think people need to think more about their votes. Sure you guys suspect redtooth, but like he said, is he really your BEST lynch for the day? Remember our most important KP comes from our votes. If you do not entirely or at least have a very high probability of thinking he is scum, I'd suggest reconsidering your vote to someone who you think has a higher chance than redtooth being scum. Today however, my vote is going on Beneather based on 2 quotes. On May 03 2011 06:44 Beneather wrote: Really looking forward to playing this game :D lol. Going to be extremely active (: On May 05 2011 08:19 Beneather wrote:On May 05 2011 08:13 Jackal58 wrote:On May 05 2011 07:13 Cthsazsa wrote: Why would we vote off inactives? We should leave them be. If they are mafia, well they aren't that much of a threat to us since they're not participating. On the other hand, if they're a townie then that'll just put a crutch in us. We'll lose a townie, PLUS we'd have wasted our votes.
People insisting that we vote off inactives just seems suspicious to me. Scum aren't a threat???? I know where my vote is going. Mafia slip :o Even if they do not participate in the discussion they still kill two of us. If they're inactive that means that they're lurking and don't want to get in to arguments to put suspicion on them so they do not get lynched. Pressuring inactives will make them active and find out if they're actually scum. The dude was seriously pumped before the game and even said he'd be extremely active. Once he got his role he became a total lurker. As pointed out by someone else, most of his posts talks about lurkers and inactives yet he does not consider himself being one! Extremely suspicious to me. Seems to me he does not know what to do after getting the scum role and just pretends to be away. On the second quote, notice how Cthsazsa raised a lot of suspicions as being scum. If we look at it this way, Beneather and Cthsazsa being on the same scum team, Beneather calling Cthsazsa on the mafia slip was like a little reminder from a person on your team. "Hey you slipped better watch what you say next time!" And then who does he decide to vote on at the end of the day? Kurumi! The easiest wagon to go on. If he thought Cthsazsa was scum, why didn't he decide to vote him? ##Vote: Beneather This is the only hard evidence I've seen so far. I'm voting beneather for now unless he says something to change my mind. Is this going to be your only post of the day cycle? You're doing to good job blending in... And all you're doing is vaguely questioning people. Post something solid. Heh looks who's talking? You've got one post yourself this cycle. You mentioned you would post your thoughts tomorrow evening. We're still waiting. Show nested quote +On May 08 2011 11:38 elmizzt wrote:On May 08 2011 11:36 kitaman27 wrote:On May 08 2011 11:31 elmizzt wrote:On May 08 2011 03:15 ilovejonn wrote:I think people need to think more about their votes. Sure you guys suspect redtooth, but like he said, is he really your BEST lynch for the day? Remember our most important KP comes from our votes. If you do not entirely or at least have a very high probability of thinking he is scum, I'd suggest reconsidering your vote to someone who you think has a higher chance than redtooth being scum. Today however, my vote is going on Beneather based on 2 quotes. On May 03 2011 06:44 Beneather wrote: Really looking forward to playing this game :D lol. Going to be extremely active (: On May 05 2011 08:19 Beneather wrote:On May 05 2011 08:13 Jackal58 wrote:On May 05 2011 07:13 Cthsazsa wrote: Why would we vote off inactives? We should leave them be. If they are mafia, well they aren't that much of a threat to us since they're not participating. On the other hand, if they're a townie then that'll just put a crutch in us. We'll lose a townie, PLUS we'd have wasted our votes.
People insisting that we vote off inactives just seems suspicious to me. Scum aren't a threat???? I know where my vote is going. Mafia slip :o Even if they do not participate in the discussion they still kill two of us. If they're inactive that means that they're lurking and don't want to get in to arguments to put suspicion on them so they do not get lynched. Pressuring inactives will make them active and find out if they're actually scum. The dude was seriously pumped before the game and even said he'd be extremely active. Once he got his role he became a total lurker. As pointed out by someone else, most of his posts talks about lurkers and inactives yet he does not consider himself being one! Extremely suspicious to me. Seems to me he does not know what to do after getting the scum role and just pretends to be away. On the second quote, notice how Cthsazsa raised a lot of suspicions as being scum. If we look at it this way, Beneather and Cthsazsa being on the same scum team, Beneather calling Cthsazsa on the mafia slip was like a little reminder from a person on your team. "Hey you slipped better watch what you say next time!" And then who does he decide to vote on at the end of the day? Kurumi! The easiest wagon to go on. If he thought Cthsazsa was scum, why didn't he decide to vote him? ##Vote: Beneather This is the only hard evidence I've seen so far. I'm voting beneather for now unless he says something to change my mind. Is this going to be your only post of the day cycle? You're doing to good job blending in... Yea, I'm not a heavy poster in mafia, but I read everything. And don't you think posting less would be sticking out, and posting more blending in? No, posting less allows you to lurk with the 10 others that have only a handful of posts, including the guy you just voted against, Beneather. Posting more allows us to have a better idea of where you stand and will eventually result in scum slips if you are red. Then why did I stick out to you?
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On May 08 2011 11:53 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2011 11:52 elmizzt wrote:On May 08 2011 11:47 kitaman27 wrote:On May 08 2011 11:38 GGQ wrote:On May 08 2011 11:36 kitaman27 wrote:On May 08 2011 11:31 elmizzt wrote:On May 08 2011 03:15 ilovejonn wrote:I think people need to think more about their votes. Sure you guys suspect redtooth, but like he said, is he really your BEST lynch for the day? Remember our most important KP comes from our votes. If you do not entirely or at least have a very high probability of thinking he is scum, I'd suggest reconsidering your vote to someone who you think has a higher chance than redtooth being scum. Today however, my vote is going on Beneather based on 2 quotes. On May 03 2011 06:44 Beneather wrote: Really looking forward to playing this game :D lol. Going to be extremely active (: On May 05 2011 08:19 Beneather wrote:On May 05 2011 08:13 Jackal58 wrote:On May 05 2011 07:13 Cthsazsa wrote: Why would we vote off inactives? We should leave them be. If they are mafia, well they aren't that much of a threat to us since they're not participating. On the other hand, if they're a townie then that'll just put a crutch in us. We'll lose a townie, PLUS we'd have wasted our votes.
People insisting that we vote off inactives just seems suspicious to me. Scum aren't a threat???? I know where my vote is going. Mafia slip :o Even if they do not participate in the discussion they still kill two of us. If they're inactive that means that they're lurking and don't want to get in to arguments to put suspicion on them so they do not get lynched. Pressuring inactives will make them active and find out if they're actually scum. The dude was seriously pumped before the game and even said he'd be extremely active. Once he got his role he became a total lurker. As pointed out by someone else, most of his posts talks about lurkers and inactives yet he does not consider himself being one! Extremely suspicious to me. Seems to me he does not know what to do after getting the scum role and just pretends to be away. On the second quote, notice how Cthsazsa raised a lot of suspicions as being scum. If we look at it this way, Beneather and Cthsazsa being on the same scum team, Beneather calling Cthsazsa on the mafia slip was like a little reminder from a person on your team. "Hey you slipped better watch what you say next time!" And then who does he decide to vote on at the end of the day? Kurumi! The easiest wagon to go on. If he thought Cthsazsa was scum, why didn't he decide to vote him? ##Vote: Beneather This is the only hard evidence I've seen so far. I'm voting beneather for now unless he says something to change my mind. Is this going to be your only post of the day cycle? You're doing to good job blending in... And all you're doing is vaguely questioning people. Post something solid. Heh looks who's talking? You've got one post yourself this cycle. You mentioned you would post your thoughts tomorrow evening. We're still waiting. On May 08 2011 11:38 elmizzt wrote:On May 08 2011 11:36 kitaman27 wrote:On May 08 2011 11:31 elmizzt wrote:On May 08 2011 03:15 ilovejonn wrote:I think people need to think more about their votes. Sure you guys suspect redtooth, but like he said, is he really your BEST lynch for the day? Remember our most important KP comes from our votes. If you do not entirely or at least have a very high probability of thinking he is scum, I'd suggest reconsidering your vote to someone who you think has a higher chance than redtooth being scum. Today however, my vote is going on Beneather based on 2 quotes. On May 03 2011 06:44 Beneather wrote: Really looking forward to playing this game :D lol. Going to be extremely active (: On May 05 2011 08:19 Beneather wrote:On May 05 2011 08:13 Jackal58 wrote:On May 05 2011 07:13 Cthsazsa wrote: Why would we vote off inactives? We should leave them be. If they are mafia, well they aren't that much of a threat to us since they're not participating. On the other hand, if they're a townie then that'll just put a crutch in us. We'll lose a townie, PLUS we'd have wasted our votes.
People insisting that we vote off inactives just seems suspicious to me. Scum aren't a threat???? I know where my vote is going. Mafia slip :o Even if they do not participate in the discussion they still kill two of us. If they're inactive that means that they're lurking and don't want to get in to arguments to put suspicion on them so they do not get lynched. Pressuring inactives will make them active and find out if they're actually scum. The dude was seriously pumped before the game and even said he'd be extremely active. Once he got his role he became a total lurker. As pointed out by someone else, most of his posts talks about lurkers and inactives yet he does not consider himself being one! Extremely suspicious to me. Seems to me he does not know what to do after getting the scum role and just pretends to be away. On the second quote, notice how Cthsazsa raised a lot of suspicions as being scum. If we look at it this way, Beneather and Cthsazsa being on the same scum team, Beneather calling Cthsazsa on the mafia slip was like a little reminder from a person on your team. "Hey you slipped better watch what you say next time!" And then who does he decide to vote on at the end of the day? Kurumi! The easiest wagon to go on. If he thought Cthsazsa was scum, why didn't he decide to vote him? ##Vote: Beneather This is the only hard evidence I've seen so far. I'm voting beneather for now unless he says something to change my mind. Is this going to be your only post of the day cycle? You're doing to good job blending in... Yea, I'm not a heavy poster in mafia, but I read everything. And don't you think posting less would be sticking out, and posting more blending in? No, posting less allows you to lurk with the 10 others that have only a handful of posts, including the guy you just voted against, Beneather. Posting more allows us to have a better idea of where you stand and will eventually result in scum slips if you are red. Then why did I stick out to you? Because I'm looking for scum. Are you concerned about sticking out? Make up your mind. Am I doing a "to good job blending in" or sticking out?
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Just got home right now. Switching to amber with 2 minutes left :o
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On May 09 2011 11:59 Amber[LighT] wrote: Damn you mothers day!
Terrible analysis by the town. No wonder you were pushing bullshit for the last few days.
Chaoser and Sandroba, not actually good at scumhunting. Remember that town. /wave byeeee
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On May 09 2011 14:08 chaos13 wrote: I can honestly say I didn't expect Irish to flip red, but I guess I got an opinion in my head and stuck with it. Sucks that both (I'm assuming there are two, seems overpowered to me otherwise) day vigis were modkilled, but it helps that we got two scum. I can't promise to be any more active from now on than I have been already, but I will try to pop in to do some analysis whenever I get the chance.
As for chaoser being roleblocked/medic protected - what is to stop scum from blocking him every night and hitting other targets, and being sure of medic-free kills every night? They can stop a DT check and get 2 kills every single night.
I would like to propose a ridiculous theory, please tell me if it's possible and/or complete garbage. chaoser is scum. He knows the roles of his scumbuddies, and decides to announce DT and that he checked Amber last night, seeing that there was already a good number of votes for that player. Further, he gets his scum team to switch votes from Cthsazsa to Amber, and then declares that there must be a good number of scum hiding in the Cthsazsa votes. Even better, he is guaranteed that medics will waste themselves on protecting him every night, and he can claim roleblock and not be worried about not providing results for further days, and he can also rest comfortably knowing that if someone tries to accuse him of being scum, he can turn it on them and blame them for trying to accuse a DT.
This is something of a ridiculous conspiracy theory feel to it to me, but I felt it should be put out there anyway. That's garbage because if chaoser isn't DT, and claimed it, then the real DT instantly knows he is scum.
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On May 09 2011 14:29 chaoser wrote: lol there's multiple DTs in this game/we don't know how many there are elmizzt You're right, I forgot. Still, for the other reasons stated, we love you
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about time someone paid attention to me! I was feeling unloved :o
On May 10 2011 14:25 DropBear wrote: On elmizzt
I know we are focusing on the three others, but I'd like to bring an extra one to the table. There has been some interaction between him and EternalMisfit.
Can you explain the interaction between myself and EM? I think you either forgot to add that part, or you mistyped.
On May 10 2011 14:25 DropBear wrote:Voting pattern: Day 1 votes redtooth Day 2 votes Beneather, then the last person to switch to Amber[Light]. He has played one previous mafia game in which he was a mafia goon, Surprisingly normal mini-mafia 1. First up, an early defence of Irish_Punk13. Note that it is a subtle defence, not an outright one. Show nested quote +On May 04 2011 14:48 elmizzt wrote:On May 04 2011 14:46 orgolove wrote: Is Irish a new player? Could make sense if he's new - he wouldn't want his first game end so quickly. Irish seems like he's claiming to be a pretty experienced player, what with him linking to a Mafia group outside TL that he is a member of.
I'm not sure how you interpreted my post as a defence of Irish. Orgolove posited that irish might be a new player, hence his overreaction to chaoser's early poke, which I responded to by mentioning his previous experience playing forum mafia. Seems to me that would make the evidence against Irish more incriminating, not less.
Well, to be fair, Csthazsa was being quite belligerent. If you read those posts in their context, it's easy to see where they came from. I mean, come on..."lurking scum isn't a threat". lol
On May 10 2011 14:25 DropBear wrote:Here is the explanation for his vote on redtooth. It comes with an interesting exchange with kitaman27. Show nested quote +On May 06 2011 04:40 elmizzt wrote:On May 06 2011 04:30 kitaman27 wrote:Redtooth He calls chaoser out for being too safe, yet rather than calling anyone out as scum, he posts a town list. It seems as if he doesn't want to upset anyone so early in the game. On May 05 2011 02:20 kitaman27 wrote:On May 04 2011 21:37 redtooth wrote: @orgolove - The first vote was a joke between me and HeavonEarth (who I know very well from LoL days) where I wasn't in the game at all and just decided to poke at him anyways. On October 24 2010 18:01 redtooth wrote: ##vote Kitaman27 I assure everyone, there was no inside joke taking place when this vote was cast. The fact that you were smurfing in a previous game doesn't bother me, but what interests me is why would you lie about it. I called him out earlier on a lie, not because I care that he was smurfing, but to see how he responds and he completely ignores it. The way he disappears after stirring the pot makes him look shifty, but he claims to have real life obligations, which makes it tough to tell if he is lurking or not. I haven't forgotten about redtooth's dodge of the proof that he was lying either. I'm putting in my vote for him unless he posts an explanation. More on redtooth Ok...you keep linking posts of mine, but you don't say anything about them. What exactly is interesting, or sticks out? Are they suspicious to you or what? and why?
On May 10 2011 14:25 DropBear wrote:Here are some of his explanation for voting for Beneather: Show nested quote +On May 08 2011 11:54 elmizzt wrote:On May 08 2011 11:53 kitaman27 wrote:On May 08 2011 11:52 elmizzt wrote:On May 08 2011 11:47 kitaman27 wrote:On May 08 2011 11:38 GGQ wrote:On May 08 2011 11:36 kitaman27 wrote:On May 08 2011 11:31 elmizzt wrote:On May 08 2011 03:15 ilovejonn wrote:I think people need to think more about their votes. Sure you guys suspect redtooth, but like he said, is he really your BEST lynch for the day? Remember our most important KP comes from our votes. If you do not entirely or at least have a very high probability of thinking he is scum, I'd suggest reconsidering your vote to someone who you think has a higher chance than redtooth being scum. Today however, my vote is going on Beneather based on 2 quotes. On May 03 2011 06:44 Beneather wrote: Really looking forward to playing this game :D lol. Going to be extremely active (: On May 05 2011 08:19 Beneather wrote: [quote]
Mafia slip :o Even if they do not participate in the discussion they still kill two of us. If they're inactive that means that they're lurking and don't want to get in to arguments to put suspicion on them so they do not get lynched. Pressuring inactives will make them active and find out if they're actually scum. The dude was seriously pumped before the game and even said he'd be extremely active. Once he got his role he became a total lurker. As pointed out by someone else, most of his posts talks about lurkers and inactives yet he does not consider himself being one! Extremely suspicious to me. Seems to me he does not know what to do after getting the scum role and just pretends to be away. On the second quote, notice how Cthsazsa raised a lot of suspicions as being scum. If we look at it this way, Beneather and Cthsazsa being on the same scum team, Beneather calling Cthsazsa on the mafia slip was like a little reminder from a person on your team. "Hey you slipped better watch what you say next time!" And then who does he decide to vote on at the end of the day? Kurumi! The easiest wagon to go on. If he thought Cthsazsa was scum, why didn't he decide to vote him? ##Vote: Beneather This is the only hard evidence I've seen so far. I'm voting beneather for now unless he says something to change my mind. Is this going to be your only post of the day cycle? You're doing to good job blending in... And all you're doing is vaguely questioning people. Post something solid. Heh looks who's talking? You've got one post yourself this cycle. You mentioned you would post your thoughts tomorrow evening. We're still waiting. On May 08 2011 11:38 elmizzt wrote:On May 08 2011 11:36 kitaman27 wrote:On May 08 2011 11:31 elmizzt wrote:On May 08 2011 03:15 ilovejonn wrote:I think people need to think more about their votes. Sure you guys suspect redtooth, but like he said, is he really your BEST lynch for the day? Remember our most important KP comes from our votes. If you do not entirely or at least have a very high probability of thinking he is scum, I'd suggest reconsidering your vote to someone who you think has a higher chance than redtooth being scum. Today however, my vote is going on Beneather based on 2 quotes. On May 03 2011 06:44 Beneather wrote: Really looking forward to playing this game :D lol. Going to be extremely active (: On May 05 2011 08:19 Beneather wrote: [quote]
Mafia slip :o Even if they do not participate in the discussion they still kill two of us. If they're inactive that means that they're lurking and don't want to get in to arguments to put suspicion on them so they do not get lynched. Pressuring inactives will make them active and find out if they're actually scum. The dude was seriously pumped before the game and even said he'd be extremely active. Once he got his role he became a total lurker. As pointed out by someone else, most of his posts talks about lurkers and inactives yet he does not consider himself being one! Extremely suspicious to me. Seems to me he does not know what to do after getting the scum role and just pretends to be away. On the second quote, notice how Cthsazsa raised a lot of suspicions as being scum. If we look at it this way, Beneather and Cthsazsa being on the same scum team, Beneather calling Cthsazsa on the mafia slip was like a little reminder from a person on your team. "Hey you slipped better watch what you say next time!" And then who does he decide to vote on at the end of the day? Kurumi! The easiest wagon to go on. If he thought Cthsazsa was scum, why didn't he decide to vote him? ##Vote: Beneather This is the only hard evidence I've seen so far. I'm voting beneather for now unless he says something to change my mind. Is this going to be your only post of the day cycle? You're doing to good job blending in... Yea, I'm not a heavy poster in mafia, but I read everything. And don't you think posting less would be sticking out, and posting more blending in? No, posting less allows you to lurk with the 10 others that have only a handful of posts, including the guy you just voted against, Beneather. Posting more allows us to have a better idea of where you stand and will eventually result in scum slips if you are red. Then why did I stick out to you? Because I'm looking for scum. Are you concerned about sticking out? Make up your mind. Am I doing a "to good job blending in" or sticking out? This exchange is very odd. I'd like the opinions of others on it. How could he think that posting less is sticking out, yet he is pushing Beneather for not posting much? No opinion of the lurking of Amber is given. If you read the context of the posts, you can see that kitaman was making empty posts, and I was trying to focus his posting. He insinuates that he is concerned at my low post count, while at the same time claiming I am blending in too well. Obviously, if I stuck out to him due to my post count, I couldn't be blending in well... perhaps this needs further clarification, let me know if this doesn't make sense to anyone.
On May 10 2011 14:25 DropBear wrote:In surprisingly normal mini, he pushed another inactive player as a lynch target. Also note that many of his posts are one-liners, another trait he displayed in Surprisingly Normal Mini Mafia. Sure, my posting style is similar to my posting style in mini mafia, but your conclusion is missing the data point of my posting style in the case that I am confirmed town.
On May 10 2011 14:25 DropBear wrote:CONCLUSION
elmizzt defended Irish_Punk13 covertly at the beginning of the game. elmizzt has directly attacked Kurumi and Beneather who have flipped town. He also heavily went after Cthsazsa who at this point is almost definitely town. He waited until the last possible moment to switch to Amber. His posting is very similar to how he was Mafia in Surprisingly Normal Mini Mafia 1. He is contributing very little, mostly one-liners. He has a very strange explanation for his lack of activity.
I think he is worth looking at as well.
EternalMisfit is next on my analysis list. So, in response to your conclusions: 1. misinterpretation 2. true, but at that point he wasn't "almost definitely town" 3. ok lol don't see how this is relevant at all. mafia and town would both react the same in that circumstance 4. bad conclusion 5. same as 4 6. ? I think you forgot to put this in, or i missed it? clarify plz
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On May 10 2011 17:36 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2011 17:30 DropBear wrote:On May 10 2011 17:28 sandroba wrote: If anyone is not convinced needs further analysis to vote for EM I will provide, but if you just look carefully at the analysis EM posted of me you can see how much bullshit it contains.
I.E. I said "Amber[Light] is overly defensive" and said "Amber[Light] does not really defend anyone" and he claims this is contradictory. How is this contradictory? In the context it was said you can clearly see I refering: In the first sentence Overly defensive = himself In the second = others
That's only an example of a clearly misleading analysis, you can find many in it. Can you link me to his analysis of you please? No, you are mafia. LOL
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Wait, why did redtooth vote for himself? lol
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On May 12 2011 01:56 sinani206 wrote: I am really confused about everything that is going on. I have been reading the thread, but it is hard to understand something as unorganized as this. Maybe I'm missing something? I am not sure who to agree with. All of the accusations make sense. Eternalmisfit seems like he could be Mafia, and there is definitely good evidence to prove this. Ilovejonn claimed townie and seems suspicious, however he was also the one that first FoS'ed EM. I admit that my accusation of Kevconsim was quite stupid, reading back a few posts, but again, I hadn't seen the post about his emergency when I posted that accusation. Just because I am the easiest target doesn't mean you should gang up on me. In Sc2 Mafia, when the silent people get lynched, the loud ones turn out to be Mafia.
lol obvious scum post + Show Spoiler +also, sc2 mafia....
autovote.
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On May 12 2011 12:17 sandroba wrote: elmizzt has been posting like a madman all over tl except for this thread. I wouldn't say posting like a madman. I'm posting about the same as I always do. Maybe slightly less than average even, cause I've been missing alot of streams live
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Nothing new has really popped up...I'm sticking with my same vote. This pretty much says it: On May 12 2011 09:25 Varpulis wrote:EBWODP: I agree with you, but if you could please elaborate that would be great. + Show Spoiler [Sinani206's scummy post] +On May 12 2011 01:56 sinani206 wrote: I am really confused about everything that is going on. I have been reading the thread, but it is hard to understand something as unorganized as this. Maybe I'm missing something? I am not sure who to agree with. All of the accusations make sense. Eternalmisfit seems like he could be Mafia, and there is definitely good evidence to prove this. Ilovejonn claimed townie and seems suspicious, however he was also the one that first FoS'ed EM. I admit that my accusation of Kevconsim was quite stupid, reading back a few posts, but again, I hadn't seen the post about his emergency when I posted that accusation. Just because I am the easiest target doesn't mean you should gang up on me. In Sc2 Mafia, when the silent people get lynched, the loud ones turn out to be Mafia.
It's scummy to me because Is Sinani winning the vote now? With elmizzt I think it's 7-6 in favor of Sinani, with EM as a close second. Am i wrong?
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[QUOTE]On May 15 2011 14:19 orgolove wrote: + Show Spoiler +Here's the spreadsheet with updated vote results. http://uploadmirrors.com/download/LFRNBCMK/TL_mafia_xxxix_day_4.xlsxFirst, the criteria again: Day 3 was another really important vote, in hindsight, as sinani206 was revealed to be a red. Day 4 didn't bring too many changes. Though the vote was close at the start of 12 hours, it was more because the reds didn't have the manpower to switch the lynch, rather than there being actually two contested results. And the data shows that. + Show Spoiler +How did it feel, having to choose between two of your own? lololol Of course, in red's point of view, it'd be better to lose the new player whose every action had to be directed, and save the vet who could, given a miracle, survive... (ha) Here's the summary. I have more confidence in this, as it compiles 4 days of data, instead of just 2. But again, because I revealed the methodology before this, it is not completely impossible that the reds tried to coordinate and manipulate the procedures. I'll see about tweaking the factors the next time I play mafia. To me, the data clearly shows that ilovejonn and AirbladeOrange are the remaining two reds. Look dude, I appreciate your efforts with this statistical analysis, but the bottom line is, there is no way the conclusions can be accurate. Beyond the influence of intentional red manipulation, you simply don't have enough data to go on. Your sample size is pitifully small. It's not your fault, just a symptom of the game. It is far more beneficial to reach conclusions based on post content.
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On May 16 2011 17:31 DropBear wrote:Ok while I'm waiting for AO's response I want to bring up another point about him. Kenpachi was obviously killed due to him being a confirmed innocent. However there is another possibility, he pushed on AO on Day 4. Show nested quote +On May 14 2011 05:54 Kenpachi wrote: K. i dont wan tto kill sinani anymore. hes being stacked on way too fast in the past couple of hours. i say we kill AirbladeOrange.. Post sinani206 lynch: Show nested quote +On May 16 2011 03:29 Kenpachi wrote: That Summary is a bit butchered because Medics most likely exist. Lets study the Mafia List
GGQ - Roleblocker Amber[Light] - Goon sinani206 - Goon Irish_Punk13 - Goon Now then, through my inexistent humble insight, i believe the other two mafia are well experienced players. Why? well, 1 of them is the Godfather which is GOING to be top tier in the mafia. The Goon that is left is most likely experienced because of the Mafia META. You would never put more newbies that experienced players in the mafia due to heavy imbalance. Our prime suspects are.. redtooth ilovejonn impervious airbladeorange
hey theyre all experienced. Either redtooth or ilovejonn is going to be the godfather because i believe they are the 2 most experienced of the 4 Pressure vote on AO from me. What would be AO's agenda in killing off Kenpachi based on that? Revenge? I think you're reading too much into that. It was simply an easy kill to give no info, a delaying tactic by the last red because he feels no pressure from town.
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Where the heck is redtooth, anyways? Really wondering about his unexplained sudden drop in activity. Say something to set our minds at ease, redtooth!
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On May 15 2011 12:37 orgolove wrote:Btw varpulis, if I really was red, then I would've known that sinai was a red. Given that, would I really have posted the following, right after the first fake day post? I'd be proven immediately wrong, in fact, within 5 minutes. Would I really have purposefully put in that position? Show nested quote +On May 15 2011 12:01 orgolove wrote: Fun. As I said. You will all eat your words when the game is over. Sigh. So pathetic. Show nested quote +On May 15 2011 12:03 orgolove wrote: Anyway. The post won't change anything. You just lynched a green. And the reds know it, and are probably laughing their asses off right now in their IRC or quicktopic. Read: Mafia trying wayyyyy too hard and sticking out like a sore thumb.
Voted orgolove
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I voted orgolove last cycle, and I will do so again based on the same reasoning as before. Forumite's role reveal only strengthens my belief that org is scum.
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On May 26 2011 07:59 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 07:59 kitaman27 wrote:On May 26 2011 04:49 DropBear wrote:This is very different to his posts about orgolove. He was rock-solid on orgolove, not so here just a suspicion. Perhaps. though usually a dt will go out of their way with a red check, but only hint in the thread with a green check. There is also the 1/7 chance he is the godfather to consider, which would invalidate the check. I would be interested in hearing from elmizzit in particular about who he would rather see lynched today, elmizzit or ilovejonn. EBWOP: AO or ilovejonn (unless he wants to lynch himself >.<) I spent about 2 hours last night poring over both their respective post histories, and I have no idea which I would prefer to lynch. Theyre both pretty equally scummy imo, and it doesn't help that their vote patterns are nearly identical. =/ I am probably just terrible at analysis
I suppose based on forumite's semi-vouch for AO, I'd say ilj would be a better target for tonight.
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Yea, I've been keeping up. I just really don't have much to say, unfortunately.
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The remaining mafia are kita and dropbear.
First off, i've been wanting to look away from ilj for a while. It's far too quiet for the last couple days for the AO/ilj train to be true. A sign that scum is happy with the way the situation is, and feels zero pressure to intervene. Luckily the AO lynch stirred things up a bit. Since it looks like with my vote on kita, we have a confirmed lynch for him, I won't discuss him as much, but mig's analysis of him is pretty good.
However, Dropbear, seeing the game so close to a mafia victory, has gotten ridiculously sloppy. At this point, the scum strat is to bus kita for the cred for that 1 vital mislynch.
Kita is pretty much dead after mig's post, and the zero resistance he or anyone put up. First, dropbear puts up a token defense of kita, really just milks it.
On May 28 2011 15:23 DropBear wrote: Well well well. Kita needs an explanation.
The only thing I can see wrong with this, why did he vote for Irish_Punk13 on Day 1?
This could have been an attempt to buy early cred when there was no way he was getting lynched, or it could have been that he just got it right.
Mig smashes it, as DB had expected.
DB then builds rapport with an obvious townie, Mig:
On May 28 2011 15:55 DropBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 15:50 Mig wrote: But the main point people should consider is just the lack of effort kita has put into his arguments.
You played in XXXVIII with me and kita db. When kita had a read on a situation in that game he fought for what he thought was right. He was actively working to get people he thought were scum lynched.
This game how often have you seen kita actually fight to get who he thinks is the scummiest person lynched? He just posts his opinion then sits out and lets the town debate amongst themselves. Which is the perfect strategy for mafia since we have just been lynching townies. I agree, he's completely different. The fact that he is still alive this late in the game despite being EASILY the biggest threat to Mafia if town is ridiculous too. He pretty much single-handedly destroyed our Mafia team last game. The other factor to consider is that he is in PYP Insane, but he's shown he can be active. I sure as hell trust you more than any of the other remaining players. I will join with you good sir!
More sucking up to build trust. He gives validation to Mig's suspicions by saying he was "going to say elmizzt as well". I'd bet that if Mig had said he wanted to shoot ilj, DB's post would read " ya, I was going to say ilj as well" :
On May 28 2011 16:20 DropBear wrote:Ya, I was going to say elmizzt as well. Despite their wierd interaction on Day 2 they haven't gone after each other at all. Show nested quote +On May 27 2011 00:36 kitaman27 wrote: Ya, elmizzt has been somewhat suspicious, but I wouldn't consider him for lynch until at least the next day cycle. AO and ilovejonn have been pretty silent. Mig, you haven't posted since the night cycle, have your opinions changed either way?
I'm voting for ilovejonn for now, subject to change. They voted together yesterday incidentally.
The rest of his posts are just more pushing for Mig to solidify his suspicions. DB is waaay too overenthusiastic to just get it done. At this point in the game, where one mislynch spells the end of the game, rushing headlong into a lynch is not the best townie play.
On May 28 2011 17:05 DropBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 16:36 Mig wrote: Well assuming kita is mafia then if he gets the town to mislynch this game mafia win. So if he is confident he could convince us to lynch ilj then he can easily say elmizzit is suspicious without fear. Also in a way that protects him in case we do lynch elmizzit. If we did then he can say see I told you him and ilj are the last 2 to try and get us to lynch ilj with 3 left.
For mafia to win they just need town to mislynch 1 time. They only need 1 of them to survive so no need for them to protect each other now. Alright done. Let's kill these motherfuckers.
On May 28 2011 16:30 DropBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 16:24 Mig wrote:On May 28 2011 16:22 DropBear wrote:There is this just before Xedat's death though... On May 28 2011 10:37 kitaman27 wrote: Sigh I feel so old, I can't even stay up until 11 anymore now that I have started working -_-
I'm thinking ilovejonn and elmizzt are the two remaining scum. If I don't survive the night, good luck town! Which part of that post worries you? The fact that he's fingering elmizzt. But then again at this late point in the game it would be hard NOT to get one out of two. Alright fuck it Let's do this!
DB's whole attitude basically reads to me like scum smelling blood and getting overzealous.
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On May 28 2011 18:32 DropBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 17:36 elmizzt wrote:The remaining mafia are kita and dropbear. First off, i've been wanting to look away from ilj for a while. It's far too quiet for the last couple days for the AO/ilj train to be true. A sign that scum is happy with the way the situation is, and feels zero pressure to intervene. Luckily the AO lynch stirred things up a bit. Since it looks like with my vote on kita, we have a confirmed lynch for him, I won't discuss him as much, but mig's analysis of him is pretty good. However, Dropbear, seeing the game so close to a mafia victory, has gotten ridiculously sloppy. At this point, the scum strat is to bus kita for the cred for that 1 vital mislynch. Kita is pretty much dead after mig's post, and the zero resistance he or anyone put up. First, dropbear puts up a token defense of kita, really just milks it. On May 28 2011 15:23 DropBear wrote: Well well well. Kita needs an explanation.
The only thing I can see wrong with this, why did he vote for Irish_Punk13 on Day 1?
This could have been an attempt to buy early cred when there was no way he was getting lynched, or it could have been that he just got it right. Mig smashes it, as DB had expected. DB then builds rapport with an obvious townie, Mig: On May 28 2011 15:55 DropBear wrote:On May 28 2011 15:50 Mig wrote: But the main point people should consider is just the lack of effort kita has put into his arguments.
You played in XXXVIII with me and kita db. When kita had a read on a situation in that game he fought for what he thought was right. He was actively working to get people he thought were scum lynched.
This game how often have you seen kita actually fight to get who he thinks is the scummiest person lynched? He just posts his opinion then sits out and lets the town debate amongst themselves. Which is the perfect strategy for mafia since we have just been lynching townies. I agree, he's completely different. The fact that he is still alive this late in the game despite being EASILY the biggest threat to Mafia if town is ridiculous too. He pretty much single-handedly destroyed our Mafia team last game. The other factor to consider is that he is in PYP Insane, but he's shown he can be active. I sure as hell trust you more than any of the other remaining players. I will join with you good sir! More sucking up to build trust. He gives validation to Mig's suspicions by saying he was "going to say elmizzt as well". I'd bet that if Mig had said he wanted to shoot ilj, DB's post would read " ya, I was going to say ilj as well" : On May 28 2011 16:20 DropBear wrote:Ya, I was going to say elmizzt as well. Despite their wierd interaction on Day 2 they haven't gone after each other at all. On May 27 2011 00:36 kitaman27 wrote: Ya, elmizzt has been somewhat suspicious, but I wouldn't consider him for lynch until at least the next day cycle. AO and ilovejonn have been pretty silent. Mig, you haven't posted since the night cycle, have your opinions changed either way?
I'm voting for ilovejonn for now, subject to change. They voted together yesterday incidentally. The rest of his posts are just more pushing for Mig to solidify his suspicions. DB is waaay too overenthusiastic to just get it done. At this point in the game, where one mislynch spells the end of the game, rushing headlong into a lynch is not the best townie play. On May 28 2011 17:05 DropBear wrote:On May 28 2011 16:36 Mig wrote: Well assuming kita is mafia then if he gets the town to mislynch this game mafia win. So if he is confident he could convince us to lynch ilj then he can easily say elmizzit is suspicious without fear. Also in a way that protects him in case we do lynch elmizzit. If we did then he can say see I told you him and ilj are the last 2 to try and get us to lynch ilj with 3 left.
For mafia to win they just need town to mislynch 1 time. They only need 1 of them to survive so no need for them to protect each other now. Alright done. Let's kill these motherfuckers. On May 28 2011 16:30 DropBear wrote:On May 28 2011 16:24 Mig wrote:On May 28 2011 16:22 DropBear wrote:There is this just before Xedat's death though... On May 28 2011 10:37 kitaman27 wrote: Sigh I feel so old, I can't even stay up until 11 anymore now that I have started working -_-
I'm thinking ilovejonn and elmizzt are the two remaining scum. If I don't survive the night, good luck town! Which part of that post worries you? The fact that he's fingering elmizzt. But then again at this late point in the game it would be hard NOT to get one out of two. Alright fuck it Let's do this!
DB's whole attitude basically reads to me like scum smelling blood and getting overzealous. Lol. That first post wasn't a defence. It was clarifying something I didn't understand. Smelling blood? How does a scum person get really excited when they kill their own teammate? Plus look at my posts. I've been overexcited the entire game, not just about killing kita. I posted a scum team with 7 people on it in day 1 lol. I've been saying I trusted Mig for the last several days. I also posted a big analysis of you yesterday mate. You wanted to look away from ilovejonn? Why? 1. It completely was a defense. You questioned kita's actions as not mafia-like. Of course, it was extremely weak and obvious, but that was your intention. You just needed a quick post of any content to bus him with. 2. You get excited when you kill your own teammate because it gives you the necessary town-cred to influence the next game-winning lynch. 3. It was more than just the overexcitement. This is different. You're pushing hard to close the book on kita in order to gain the aforementioned town cred. 4. Nice. I trust mig too. 5. I already stated why I wanted to look away from ilj. In case it wasn't clear, the quietness when the focus was on ilj/ao speaks to mafia feeling comfortable enough that they have no need to intervene to influence town opinions. Therefore, it would follow that ilj looks towny.
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On May 29 2011 12:08 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2011 11:31 elmizzt wrote:On May 08 2011 03:15 ilovejonn wrote:I think people need to think more about their votes. Sure you guys suspect redtooth, but like he said, is he really your BEST lynch for the day? Remember our most important KP comes from our votes. If you do not entirely or at least have a very high probability of thinking he is scum, I'd suggest reconsidering your vote to someone who you think has a higher chance than redtooth being scum. Today however, my vote is going on Beneather based on 2 quotes. On May 03 2011 06:44 Beneather wrote: Really looking forward to playing this game :D lol. Going to be extremely active (: On May 05 2011 08:19 Beneather wrote:On May 05 2011 08:13 Jackal58 wrote:On May 05 2011 07:13 Cthsazsa wrote: Why would we vote off inactives? We should leave them be. If they are mafia, well they aren't that much of a threat to us since they're not participating. On the other hand, if they're a townie then that'll just put a crutch in us. We'll lose a townie, PLUS we'd have wasted our votes.
People insisting that we vote off inactives just seems suspicious to me. Scum aren't a threat???? I know where my vote is going. Mafia slip :o Even if they do not participate in the discussion they still kill two of us. If they're inactive that means that they're lurking and don't want to get in to arguments to put suspicion on them so they do not get lynched. Pressuring inactives will make them active and find out if they're actually scum. The dude was seriously pumped before the game and even said he'd be extremely active. Once he got his role he became a total lurker. As pointed out by someone else, most of his posts talks about lurkers and inactives yet he does not consider himself being one! Extremely suspicious to me. Seems to me he does not know what to do after getting the scum role and just pretends to be away. On the second quote, notice how Cthsazsa raised a lot of suspicions as being scum. If we look at it this way, Beneather and Cthsazsa being on the same scum team, Beneather calling Cthsazsa on the mafia slip was like a little reminder from a person on your team. "Hey you slipped better watch what you say next time!" And then who does he decide to vote on at the end of the day? Kurumi! The easiest wagon to go on. If he thought Cthsazsa was scum, why didn't he decide to vote him? ##Vote: Beneather This is the only hard evidence I've seen so far. I'm voting beneather for now unless he says something to change my mind. Hey look, the scum are giving each other pats on the back for their analysis! How cute.
Well, beneather had stated that he was going to be "extremely active" then suddenly disappears once roles were distributed. At the time, this was the first argument that I felt wasn't based mostly on conjecture, which is why I backed it.
On May 29 2011 12:08 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2011 11:54 elmizzt wrote:On May 08 2011 11:53 kitaman27 wrote:On May 08 2011 11:52 elmizzt wrote:On May 08 2011 11:47 kitaman27 wrote:On May 08 2011 11:38 GGQ wrote:On May 08 2011 11:36 kitaman27 wrote:On May 08 2011 11:31 elmizzt wrote:On May 08 2011 03:15 ilovejonn wrote:I think people need to think more about their votes. Sure you guys suspect redtooth, but like he said, is he really your BEST lynch for the day? Remember our most important KP comes from our votes. If you do not entirely or at least have a very high probability of thinking he is scum, I'd suggest reconsidering your vote to someone who you think has a higher chance than redtooth being scum. Today however, my vote is going on Beneather based on 2 quotes. On May 03 2011 06:44 Beneather wrote: Really looking forward to playing this game :D lol. Going to be extremely active (: On May 05 2011 08:19 Beneather wrote: [quote]
Mafia slip :o Even if they do not participate in the discussion they still kill two of us. If they're inactive that means that they're lurking and don't want to get in to arguments to put suspicion on them so they do not get lynched. Pressuring inactives will make them active and find out if they're actually scum. The dude was seriously pumped before the game and even said he'd be extremely active. Once he got his role he became a total lurker. As pointed out by someone else, most of his posts talks about lurkers and inactives yet he does not consider himself being one! Extremely suspicious to me. Seems to me he does not know what to do after getting the scum role and just pretends to be away. On the second quote, notice how Cthsazsa raised a lot of suspicions as being scum. If we look at it this way, Beneather and Cthsazsa being on the same scum team, Beneather calling Cthsazsa on the mafia slip was like a little reminder from a person on your team. "Hey you slipped better watch what you say next time!" And then who does he decide to vote on at the end of the day? Kurumi! The easiest wagon to go on. If he thought Cthsazsa was scum, why didn't he decide to vote him? ##Vote: Beneather This is the only hard evidence I've seen so far. I'm voting beneather for now unless he says something to change my mind. Is this going to be your only post of the day cycle? You're doing to good job blending in... And all you're doing is vaguely questioning people. Post something solid. Heh looks who's talking? You've got one post yourself this cycle. You mentioned you would post your thoughts tomorrow evening. We're still waiting. On May 08 2011 11:38 elmizzt wrote:On May 08 2011 11:36 kitaman27 wrote:On May 08 2011 11:31 elmizzt wrote:On May 08 2011 03:15 ilovejonn wrote:I think people need to think more about their votes. Sure you guys suspect redtooth, but like he said, is he really your BEST lynch for the day? Remember our most important KP comes from our votes. If you do not entirely or at least have a very high probability of thinking he is scum, I'd suggest reconsidering your vote to someone who you think has a higher chance than redtooth being scum. Today however, my vote is going on Beneather based on 2 quotes. On May 03 2011 06:44 Beneather wrote: Really looking forward to playing this game :D lol. Going to be extremely active (: On May 05 2011 08:19 Beneather wrote: [quote]
Mafia slip :o Even if they do not participate in the discussion they still kill two of us. If they're inactive that means that they're lurking and don't want to get in to arguments to put suspicion on them so they do not get lynched. Pressuring inactives will make them active and find out if they're actually scum. The dude was seriously pumped before the game and even said he'd be extremely active. Once he got his role he became a total lurker. As pointed out by someone else, most of his posts talks about lurkers and inactives yet he does not consider himself being one! Extremely suspicious to me. Seems to me he does not know what to do after getting the scum role and just pretends to be away. On the second quote, notice how Cthsazsa raised a lot of suspicions as being scum. If we look at it this way, Beneather and Cthsazsa being on the same scum team, Beneather calling Cthsazsa on the mafia slip was like a little reminder from a person on your team. "Hey you slipped better watch what you say next time!" And then who does he decide to vote on at the end of the day? Kurumi! The easiest wagon to go on. If he thought Cthsazsa was scum, why didn't he decide to vote him? ##Vote: Beneather This is the only hard evidence I've seen so far. I'm voting beneather for now unless he says something to change my mind. Is this going to be your only post of the day cycle? You're doing to good job blending in... Yea, I'm not a heavy poster in mafia, but I read everything. And don't you think posting less would be sticking out, and posting more blending in? No, posting less allows you to lurk with the 10 others that have only a handful of posts, including the guy you just voted against, Beneather. Posting more allows us to have a better idea of where you stand and will eventually result in scum slips if you are red. Then why did I stick out to you? Because I'm looking for scum. Are you concerned about sticking out? Make up your mind. Am I doing a "to good job blending in" or sticking out? The weirdest exchange in the entire thread. I call elm out for lurking and he responds that "posting less would be sticking out". How does this make any sense whatsoever? Does nobody else find this incredibly odd?
My beef here is more with the general application of lurker=mafia to every single situation. Explain to me this: if posting less is blending in, why did I seem more suspicious to you based on a low post count? Seems to me I stuck out more to you in this situation because I was posting less. When I asked you to clarify this contradiction, you dodged the question. Not that I blame you, as this is more of a theoretical dispute, not really relevant I guess. take it for what you will, I'm happy to discuss this further if anyone likes
On May 29 2011 12:08 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2011 11:13 elmizzt wrote:On May 15 2011 14:19 orgolove wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Here's the spreadsheet with updated vote results. http://uploadmirrors.com/download/LFRNBCMK/TL_mafia_xxxix_day_4.xlsxFirst, the criteria again: Day 3 was another really important vote, in hindsight, as sinani206 was revealed to be a red. Day 4 didn't bring too many changes. Though the vote was close at the start of 12 hours, it was more because the reds didn't have the manpower to switch the lynch, rather than there being actually two contested results. And the data shows that. + Show Spoiler +How did it feel, having to choose between two of your own? lololol Of course, in red's point of view, it'd be better to lose the new player whose every action had to be directed, and save the vet who could, given a miracle, survive... (ha) Here's the summary. I have more confidence in this, as it compiles 4 days of data, instead of just 2. But again, because I revealed the methodology before this, it is not completely impossible that the reds tried to coordinate and manipulate the procedures. I'll see about tweaking the factors the next time I play mafia. To me, the data clearly shows that ilovejonn and AirbladeOrange are the remaining two reds. Look dude, I appreciate your efforts with this statistical analysis, but the bottom line is, there is no way the conclusions can be accurate. Beyond the influence of intentional red manipulation, you simply don't have enough data to go on. Your sample size is pitifully small. It's not your fault, just a symptom of the game. It is far more beneficial to reach conclusions based on post content. Discredits the spreadsheets since they implicate his buddy jonn. I discredited the spreadsheets because they were complete horseshit lol. It's just straight up statistically invalid.
On May 29 2011 12:08 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 08:10 elmizzt wrote:On May 26 2011 07:59 kitaman27 wrote:On May 26 2011 07:59 kitaman27 wrote:On May 26 2011 04:49 DropBear wrote:This is very different to his posts about orgolove. He was rock-solid on orgolove, not so here just a suspicion. Perhaps. though usually a dt will go out of their way with a red check, but only hint in the thread with a green check. There is also the 1/7 chance he is the godfather to consider, which would invalidate the check. I would be interested in hearing from elmizzit in particular about who he would rather see lynched today, elmizzit or ilovejonn. EBWOP: AO or ilovejonn (unless he wants to lynch himself >.<) I spent about 2 hours last night poring over both their respective post histories, and I have no idea which I would prefer to lynch. Theyre both pretty equally scummy imo, and it doesn't help that their vote patterns are nearly identical. =/ I am probably just terrible at analysis I suppose based on forumite's semi-vouch for AO, I'd say ilj would be a better target for tonight. So you're saying you spent 2 hours yet refuse to make an opinion on anything? Scummy, scummy, scummy. Everyone re-read this post. Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 08:43 elmizzt wrote: Yea, I've been keeping up. I just really don't have much to say, unfortunately. Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 17:36 elmizzt wrote:The remaining mafia are kita and dropbear. First off, i've been wanting to look away from ilj for a while. It's far too quiet for the last couple days for the AO/ilj train to be true. A sign that scum is happy with the way the situation is, and feels zero pressure to intervene. Luckily the AO lynch stirred things up a bit. Since it looks like with my vote on kita, we have a confirmed lynch for him, I won't discuss him as much, but mig's analysis of him is pretty good. However, Dropbear, seeing the game so close to a mafia victory, has gotten ridiculously sloppy. At this point, the scum strat is to bus kita for the cred for that 1 vital mislynch. Kita is pretty much dead after mig's post, and the zero resistance he or anyone put up. First, dropbear puts up a token defense of kita, really just milks it. On May 28 2011 15:23 DropBear wrote: Well well well. Kita needs an explanation.
The only thing I can see wrong with this, why did he vote for Irish_Punk13 on Day 1?
This could have been an attempt to buy early cred when there was no way he was getting lynched, or it could have been that he just got it right. Mig smashes it, as DB had expected. DB then builds rapport with an obvious townie, Mig: On May 28 2011 15:55 DropBear wrote:On May 28 2011 15:50 Mig wrote: But the main point people should consider is just the lack of effort kita has put into his arguments.
You played in XXXVIII with me and kita db. When kita had a read on a situation in that game he fought for what he thought was right. He was actively working to get people he thought were scum lynched.
This game how often have you seen kita actually fight to get who he thinks is the scummiest person lynched? He just posts his opinion then sits out and lets the town debate amongst themselves. Which is the perfect strategy for mafia since we have just been lynching townies. I agree, he's completely different. The fact that he is still alive this late in the game despite being EASILY the biggest threat to Mafia if town is ridiculous too. He pretty much single-handedly destroyed our Mafia team last game. The other factor to consider is that he is in PYP Insane, but he's shown he can be active. I sure as hell trust you more than any of the other remaining players. I will join with you good sir! More sucking up to build trust. He gives validation to Mig's suspicions by saying he was "going to say elmizzt as well". I'd bet that if Mig had said he wanted to shoot ilj, DB's post would read " ya, I was going to say ilj as well" : On May 28 2011 16:20 DropBear wrote:Ya, I was going to say elmizzt as well. Despite their wierd interaction on Day 2 they haven't gone after each other at all. On May 27 2011 00:36 kitaman27 wrote: Ya, elmizzt has been somewhat suspicious, but I wouldn't consider him for lynch until at least the next day cycle. AO and ilovejonn have been pretty silent. Mig, you haven't posted since the night cycle, have your opinions changed either way?
I'm voting for ilovejonn for now, subject to change. They voted together yesterday incidentally. The rest of his posts are just more pushing for Mig to solidify his suspicions. DB is waaay too overenthusiastic to just get it done. At this point in the game, where one mislynch spells the end of the game, rushing headlong into a lynch is not the best townie play. On May 28 2011 17:05 DropBear wrote:On May 28 2011 16:36 Mig wrote: Well assuming kita is mafia then if he gets the town to mislynch this game mafia win. So if he is confident he could convince us to lynch ilj then he can easily say elmizzit is suspicious without fear. Also in a way that protects him in case we do lynch elmizzit. If we did then he can say see I told you him and ilj are the last 2 to try and get us to lynch ilj with 3 left.
For mafia to win they just need town to mislynch 1 time. They only need 1 of them to survive so no need for them to protect each other now. Alright done. Let's kill these motherfuckers. On May 28 2011 16:30 DropBear wrote:On May 28 2011 16:24 Mig wrote:On May 28 2011 16:22 DropBear wrote:There is this just before Xedat's death though... On May 28 2011 10:37 kitaman27 wrote: Sigh I feel so old, I can't even stay up until 11 anymore now that I have started working -_-
I'm thinking ilovejonn and elmizzt are the two remaining scum. If I don't survive the night, good luck town! Which part of that post worries you? The fact that he's fingering elmizzt. But then again at this late point in the game it would be hard NOT to get one out of two. Alright fuck it Let's do this!
DB's whole attitude basically reads to me like scum smelling blood and getting overzealous. Bam. Hook, line, and sinker. These are consecutive posts. He goes from "not having anything to say" to jumping right on the kita bandwagon. All I have to say is LOL. Don't expect to hear from him again this cycle either. It's pretty obvious he is reading though. Dirty lurker.
Um, the "not having anything to say" was more of an explanation of why I hadn't posted much previously, and not a projection of future intentions. Also, yea you say that these were consecutive posts, but you fail to take into account that they were 57 (!) hours apart, and during that period, AO was mislynched, throwing town into turmoil.
I'm going to try to clarify my position: Yes. I haven't posted much. Why? I don't like to post on conjecture. I find it difficult to make an argument unless I'm completely (or very close to completely ) sure of my statements. I'm not the best creating analysis, but when focused, I'm more than happy to dismantle the bs that people come up with. With the fewer numbers of players in the game, and more variables taken out, it's become much easier for me to post, because I can do so with a much higher confidence level in my beliefs.
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On May 29 2011 14:56 DropBear wrote: This game needs moar roleclaims I don't really understand this, so if you could please clarify what the purpose of everyone roleclaiming would be, I'm interested to hear
btw mig, if you don't mind, my name is spelled elmizzt, not elmizzit please! <3
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On May 29 2011 17:40 Mig wrote: So you are going to leave your vote on kita I assume elmizzit? Do you still think DB is the other mafia?
Also if you end up being town I am going to hate you forever. Yes. Yes. aw sorry
On May 29 2011 17:41 Mig wrote: haha my bad, maybe if you posted more actively I wouldn't confuse it.
LOL low blow. Guess I deserve that.
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sen so beast. drewbies army just melted
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On May 30 2011 10:26 elmizzt wrote: sen so beast. drewbies army just melted LOL oops wrong thread
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On May 30 2011 02:45 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2011 17:33 elmizzt wrote: Um, the "not having anything to say" was more of an explanation of why I hadn't posted much previously, and not a projection of future intentions. Also, yea you say that these were consecutive posts, but you fail to take into account that they were 57 (!) hours apart, and during that period, AO was mislynched, throwing town into turmoil. You're digging your own grave. Two consecutive posts, 57 hours (!) apart? Talk about lurking hard. Yet when we question you, you show up in ten minutes? Now that you saw I was up for lynch, you jumped on the opportunity to cement your victory. Problem is, you were too greedy. lol. kita keeps jumping and dodging arguments. bouncing back and forth between stances.
Your original argument was that my stance switched very quickly between two consecutive posts. I responded that they were actually very far apart in terms of time and circumstance. You responded by dodging, and making statements that I have already explained. nice try =/
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On May 30 2011 10:51 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 10:28 elmizzt wrote:On May 30 2011 10:26 elmizzt wrote: sen so beast. drewbies army just melted LOL oops wrong thread Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 10:38 elmizzt wrote:On May 30 2011 02:45 kitaman27 wrote:On May 29 2011 17:33 elmizzt wrote: Um, the "not having anything to say" was more of an explanation of why I hadn't posted much previously, and not a projection of future intentions. Also, yea you say that these were consecutive posts, but you fail to take into account that they were 57 (!) hours apart, and during that period, AO was mislynched, throwing town into turmoil. You're digging your own grave. Two consecutive posts, 57 hours (!) apart? Talk about lurking hard. Yet when we question you, you show up in ten minutes? Now that you saw I was up for lynch, you jumped on the opportunity to cement your victory. Problem is, you were too greedy. lol. kita keeps jumping and dodging arguments. bouncing back and forth between stances. Your original argument was that my stance switched very quickly between two consecutive posts. I responded that they were actually very far apart in terms of time and circumstance. You responded by dodging, and making statements that I have already explained. nice try =/ Haha even further evidence that you are lurking so hard. The fact that you felt it necessary to respond to one of my random points shows that you don't want to look bad for accidentally posting in the thread. Why do you keep stating that i am lurking hard like it's some grand revelation lol.
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On May 30 2011 11:58 DropBear wrote: GUYS VOTE ELMIZZT
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On May 30 2011 12:01 ilovejonn wrote: fine wtf
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On May 30 2011 12:02 Varpulis wrote: wait, wasn't the night post supposed to come, like, 2 minutes ago? will that vote count? Desperately want to know the answer to this question >.>
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On May 30 2011 12:03 elmizzt wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 12:02 Varpulis wrote: wait, wasn't the night post supposed to come, like, 2 minutes ago? will that vote count? Desperately want to know the answer to this question >.> ah, the vote was on the hour
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On May 30 2011 12:09 GMarshal wrote: this is not the night post lol this is funny cause I'm the only player that knows what node is writing
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On May 30 2011 12:16 ilovejonn wrote: Way to play a veteran elmizzt, thanks for the win. lol
sorry. =/
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On May 30 2011 12:18 kitaman27 wrote: GG Town.
Nice job sticking with your gut Mig.
Don't feel too bad DropBear, you clearly put a lot of effort into the game. Once you start getting things right you will be a strong player.
Sorry if I came off hard on you elm, I still <3 you. You just happened to be the easiest to pick on. <3
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On May 30 2011 12:20 ilovejonn wrote: Me and kita never had any intention to hit elmizzt. Every post I say I'm going out or busy or I had night shifts were true, and you were even lurking harder than me, it was too easy to paint you scum when you don't even hard defend yourself against DB. what do you mean by hard defend? I thought I said everything I could against DB's attack based on the situation
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Well, I thought it would be interesting to try to save vet status for endgame, when it could potentially be very impactful. not that I'm claiming that my low postcount the whole game was a result of this, but that was the plan, anyways. After the AO mislynch, when I thought could be the time to try to get mafia to hit me, it was already too late, and/or I wasn't clever enough.
based on the backlash, I guess, sorry to everyone.
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On May 30 2011 16:50 DropBear wrote: <333
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