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On May 28 2011 05:05 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Quick question: Do assassins/SKs if existent receive additional powers in the form of roles? If so, AWESOME. I hope not,I dislike 3rd party roles already but w/e | ||
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On May 30 2011 05:58 GMarshal wrote: Im not actually going to post anything even remotely pro-town until day 3 rolls around, just in case I'm a mole. So don't mind me if I lurk till day 3, k? Oh U GM <3 Better get a dt role then lol | ||
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We've got a: a) Smurf b) Troll c) Total newbie every is bad | ||
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On May 31 2011 04:00 redFF wrote: role received. I will find the scum by any means possible! wat | ||
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On May 31 2011 05:17 redFF wrote: lynch kavdragon imo I agree. | ||
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On May 31 2011 05:25 GMarshal wrote: Mataza has the ability to stick his foot in his mouth with ease, as he proved in SNMMIII, he also has a penchant for fake claiming roles, e.g. he considered claiming cop day 1 in SNMMIII, I'm just ignoring his statements about his role for now. Also lets try to avoid a claim this early in the game, yes? Are You trying to help Your Mafia buddy or trying not to waste a lynch? Both are quite smart. | ||
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On May 31 2011 06:10 Torte de Lini wrote: I'm the new guy, I have the most advantage against any alignment because no one knows my methodology or forms of deception/writing ;D! Lemme bring Chaoser,he did an analysis of my SC2 posts in my first game,so good. | ||
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Is Your role like,"Sewed Abomination Which Can't Talk" Speak up ._. Also about the lists,I am not good into meta reads and such,I barely understand that word lol | ||
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a)A Detective Dog b) Trolling A) is more likely,that means we have some kind of Bullet-bill role. | ||
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Basically it was a guy who detected who had a gun or not. (DT) | ||
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On May 31 2011 06:39 chaos13 wrote: I would help with BC's list, but I have no idea of the skill level of players in this forum. I think LAL should stand. I cannot see any reasonable scenario in which players could benefit town by lying. Like claiming a role that doesn't exist? | ||
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So: kitaman27 prods Varp,then Bum agrees AND BACKS THE ACCUSATION UP. Bum also says "I am not FoSing,just (NoCing)" Whatever You say American. RedFF claimed twice already,I think he would be a good lynch Day 2 or even Day 1,Amber on the other hand will get pushed into lynch by Mafia some day,because well,HE CAN'T DEFEND NOR CONTRIBUTE. As for tnkted he is just trying to get attention/shots,so he probably has some crazy bullet-redirector/bulletproof role. DropBear and GMarshal are working hard on the things,Drop is looking into people,having his own opinion,while GM tries to generate discussion. Oh,also we've got "The Bro",I think he is kind of vote-rigger/martyr/hero role who can change the lynch after receiving 4fistbumps. I wonder if they didn't get modkilled because Decon wasn't there just yet or they're lying about roles? Or how does it work? As for now,my suspect list is : kitaman27,bumatlarge clear list: GM DB This is just to point out the things I mentioned,for quick reference. Also there's easy way to know who gave the role to Palmar,guess who is brofisting a lot on IRC? Yup. Also Jackar,are You on meth,man? Why tunneling chaos13 so hard? | ||
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On May 31 2011 20:32 Palmar wrote: #Fistpound: Kurumi For the worst constructed post, ever. I am known for that | ||
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tnkted I am worrying now,but You fistpounded him. NICE ONE BRO | ||
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On May 31 2011 20:53 Palmar wrote: four is critical bro, more is beneficial. Don't worry 'bout me mataza bro, I got this. Imma get that scumbag Varpulis lynched, cause he aint up to no good. You are indeed a vote rigger,who needs fistpound to use his power. | ||
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On May 31 2011 22:28 Mataza wrote: Well Jackal, because an opinion is a fickle thing. Every little thing you read influences it. It may change several times a day. A vote, on the other hand, is a big commitment to me. It is my sign of dedication towards my opinion. It won´t move that easily, and therefore placing my vote should have a greater impact. You're scared that someone will call You as wishy-washy person? So safe,so scummish. | ||
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On May 31 2011 22:42 bumatlarge wrote: I told you there are smurfs afoot! I can smell them from a galaxy away No,I do smell things from a galaxy away. Well,I'd go for that "I just registered,played on other forums" etc guy. | ||
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GOD DAMNIT GOD,WHY ODIN IS PLAYING AGAIN | ||
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sup bum ##vote bumatlarge | ||
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On June 01 2011 00:28 GMarshal wrote: Care to explain what about him makes him scummy? Kitaman27 votes Varpulis for "pressure" (mind that kitaman is one of the scummiest people around) afterwards Bum votes Varpulis too and justifies his vote that he is indeed posting weirdly(etc some crap just to fill in the post) and he is "NoCing him" instead of "FoSing" | ||
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Also I would like to remind You guys that RedFF already claimed twice. I guess You won't go after me with my lynch,because I am not an authority nor I have huge arguments against bum,but it is like that day1. I will be able to confirm bum being mafia this night probably. My lynch candidate list is as follows: Bum redFF Kitaman. | ||
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"GUYS I AM NOT AKBAR,DON'T WORRY,I AM AKBAR WHO DOESN'T KILL HIMSELF" I don't get You Bum. | ||
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On June 01 2011 01:03 Mataza wrote: Kurumi, Bum, could you please get a hold of yourself? You are just arguing for the sake of disagreement... Sure,then do something I can discuss about. | ||
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Inside,cold and smelly winds can be felt. The Good Ol' Bus Driva Hideout Someone must be sent there and interrogate him to get information we need. I suggest bringing some kind of weapon with Yourself,because He,can be very dangerous,care though. Even if he will look as he is unarmed,he can have a driving wheel in his pocket and redirect the bullet Matrix style. The Bro must be his secret project. Get every bit of info from him. | ||
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On June 01 2011 05:14 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Oh and @Kurumi, give me one reason why I should listen to you right now. Listen to what? Also funny how Viscera tries to vote someone "safe" (lurker!) to "prod him" around 1:30h before the deadline,probably many miracles were bond to happen,luckily sinani woke up not giving a free card to Viscera. | ||
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On June 01 2011 05:51 Torte de Lini wrote: How is that scummy at all? I don't understand, to me it's just ignorance which is individual-based and not mafia or town oriented at all. Sounds both bad mafia and bad town in my opinion. This is no different than the original inquiries to people who were just posting fluff and/or pointless shit (this could be considered one). Bad town play, perhaps, but by default that makes one mafia? How many mafia players are in this game anyways? If anything I'd vote Kurumi, what with what was posted previously. It's not directed at anyone in particular and it seems to be just side-stepping after throwing up his hands in the air from his previous post: "Sure,then do something I can discuss about." That's all I really have to say to be honest, the rest I don't really feel warrants much input or views. I mean, you guys are extracting a lot of ideas over very little. Guess that's even less contributory from me D: I'm trying dammit D:< Oh also,I'd like You to decide,are You a newbie or a vet? Because You say "bad,short foses" are not scummy. So You say sinani is bad mafia,then bad town,then You say that makes him mafia. After that,You say You're going to vote me. Your post is ridiculously empty. *Hurr sinani is mafia but he is not* *hurr,Kurumi is asking for discussion,but I did not get the context,so well,I won't say anything because I don't feel like it,oh also I know that I did not contribute much,but I am trying no to contribute much,get it?* | ||
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triple post~ So I will make You contribute,it is easy and quite funny,Torte. Who is Your main scum suspect(given that it isn't sinani nor me,because You never stated it clearly)? Who is appears the most town to You right now? Are You having fun? | ||
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On May 21 2011 20:05 Kurumi wrote: Incognito,thanks for writing up a nice chainsaw defence. You're in the corner and You want to save Your life. You could be and egoistic townie "Hero" or just a scum who has been caught on a blunder. There's valid point that You miraculously evaded two lynches (I think both by 1 vote,maybe 2) still You're doing the same thing: searching for more suspects. I think You agreed at one point that brining more suspects than it is IS BAD. I didn't think so early Day 1 (We had A LOT of time) but now we are on Night 2 and the things WENT CRAZY. Yes,finger pointing IS SUSPICIOUS and You try to make it "legitimate" by saying how it worked in past games,but no,YOU CAN'T RUN AROUND WITH FINGERS! It is obvious that someone will agree with You at one point,thus lynching some random person. You try to classify Your actions as nulltells/pro-town while they're scummy. + Show Spoiler + On May 14 2011 13:30 Incognito wrote: List of invisible posters: GMarshal Kitaman27 tnkted Bum's post is on spot. Fortunately, I already mapped out some stuff. PYP Insane Game Plan The optimal picking strategy revolves around this cute little role: This role obsoletes the PYP1 and PYP3 role picking strategies. The mere existence of the thief on the role list means that it would be seriously harmful for mafia to know where the good roles are. Of course, it’s a no brainer that the good roles are in the beginning part of the list. So my only advice is that if you’re in the beginning of the list, seriously consider picking a role such as NRA member or Meth Man to deter the mafia from hitting/stealing roles from the top of the list. Due to the fact that the mafia can coordinate numbers with each other while the town can’t, it is very likely that mafia will get a spot within the top 3. As shown by the past PYP games, mafia has gotten the first or second spot in all 3 games. Which means town will likely have to be on the defensive, as it is hard to guarantee that we can effectively deny mafia the thief role. The amount of potential KP in this game is huge. This means that there is a huge potential for the game to end quickly. The basic town strategy should be to avoid KP roles, while going heavy on investigative and defensive roles to try to prolong the game. Tier I Roles Mafia 2 Detective + Vote Rigger Inventor Chuiu Jack Modern Detective Role Cop Bullet Bill PYP3 Veteran Doctor Bulletproof Mafia 2 Detective combined with the Vote Rigger is a combo that allows us to break up the town into chunks and analyze with greater ease. The formula is simple. The Vote Rigger rigs the Day 1 Vote into 4 roughly equal blocks with 7, 6, 6, and 5 voters each. All the lurkers/suspicious people are piled onto one list, and the Modern Detective uses his vote check to check one vote block each day, starting with the lurkers. Town then proceeds to analyze the split lists, allowing for more focused analyses. The rest of the investigative roles are used to sort through the lists, while the defensive roles prolong the game and squeeze the mafia. The Mafia will want these roles Kingmaker + Politician Thief Caller Godfather Roleblocker Janitor JailKeeper Puppeteer Hero PYP3 Veteran NRA Member CPR Doctor The best mafia combo pick is Kingmaker + Politician. This effectively gives mafia an unlimited anonymous unblockable dayvig power, capable of sniping off all the top town players. Caller Godfather is also an obvious mafia role. As anyone who’s read Caller’s Mafia V knows, Godfather recruiting high level townies with good roles is a town’s worst nightmare. Denying this role is iffy, as a mafia thief has plenty of time to try to find the role and steal it before it can actually be of use. Jailkeeper, roleblocker, and NRA member are powerful roles for the mafia that prevent investigations, and potentially save mafia from NKs. Hero and PYP 3 veteran cause town pain when mafia slip out of lynches and snipe off a townie. Lastly, puppeteer is surprisingly useful for a good mafia arguer, as it allows them to anonymously mislead town and cause tons of chaos in the thread. However, the most critical roles that we need to deny are the Thief, Politician, Jailkeeper, and Roleblocker. Due to the threat of a mafia thief, we can’t discuss precise strategy here, but townies should strongly consider picking one of these 4 roles. By the way KillerSOS is mafia. Also Node is mafia. There's Your "I HAD NO PLAN LOL WAT U SMOKIN' BRO" Your trickery needs to go to hell,Your actions did nothing but denied us from doing ANYTHING Day 2 besides thinking why Incognito would nuke someone out of blue,while we have King's lynch at disposal and plenty of time (and a pretty legit votecheck list) You knew and still know that Your time is running short,thus You try to spew chaos as much as You can,You contradict Yourself,never change attitude and LIE. Lynch All Liars,remember? Yes I am angry,because You think You're a Holy Hero who everyone should follow,while we caught some blood on Your cape. This is sweet how You try to derail us from the list Gmarshal posted. Here You go,this is the latest Pick Your Power Insane! Feel free to analyze and waste town's time on "You" and commas. This reminds me how I laughed with Ace when they were trying to understand a logic behind the numbers then. I'd like You to stop picking on my style,okay? Instead answer this: Who's Your best lynch candidate? (Why?) Who looks like townie to You? (Why?) Who looks like scum to You? (Why?) | ||
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On June 01 2011 06:20 sandroba wrote: Whoa, what? How can you PM kurumi deskscaress? Meh,he probably meant the normal question,kind of OOG probably,if not,oops for him. Sandroba,I'd like to remind You that redFF claimed twice(although his first claim was probably a joke,still worth noticing) he claimed "Dog Whisperer",it was a lie. | ||
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On May 31 2011 05:29 sandroba wrote: Alright, I have a sugestion to make. Everyone should state which player they designed the role for. We don't know how much KP mafia actually has, so after today things might get confusing. This way we can implement LAL more effectively. I would also like to sugest that any person who claims before having any IMPORTANT (that lead us to scum) info or are very close to being lynched to be policy lynched. Only time it's ok to claim without meeting the above conditions is when town decides it's time to massroleclaim. Failing to claim at mass roleclaim will also result in a policy lynch. We say who we created role for. We still don't know KP,but we have shitload of false claims,right. How? I say I made role for X,someone counterclaims then what? I am supposed to tell the role? Clever way to get more roles than You know if You're mafia. Claiming in mass roleclaim while the game is full of insane roles,pick Your poison guys! The information we would get from that does not benefit the Town as much as it would benefit the Mafia,that's why it is bad. | ||
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On June 01 2011 06:40 redFF wrote: Sandroba i wasn't sure how useful my role was because i would have to vote the person I wanted to talk to. I figured the most use I could be day 1 was talking to our canine companion, and I didn't want the thread filling up with pages discussing if my vote was scummy and then filling up later on with people asking me to change my vote. My role is one that needs me to do things publicly and the less pointless talk on a townie with a "suspicious" voting pattern the better. I tried to use my role to allow Amber to talk to the thread and voice his opinions. I don't see that as being a scummy motive... I also stand by the fact that mafia will be trying to kill better players and better roles than me tonight. Is it set up "Hey guys,it is Day 11 and I am still alive,isn't that amazing?! Guys? Where are You? Why are You in green blood? What are You playing silly boys?" | ||
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Mafia A claims he picked for Mafia B,Townie A disagrees and counterclaims,WIFOM(considering townie is not lying) Mafia A claims he picked for Mafia B,Townie Suspect #1 counterclaims,we will lynch Townie. And what info do You actually mean? Keep in mind,roles were handed before alignments were known to us,that means Mafia could end with DT roles,which is a pain. | ||
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the first paragraph = we have nothing | ||
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It is rather a nulltell,it can go either way. | ||
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On June 01 2011 12:39 VisceraEyes wrote: Okay, I've got a survey. 1) Which do you consider to be more scummy; Active Lurking or Thread Derailment? 2) During the night, who do you think is going to be a top-priority target for Mafia? 3) Given the opportunity to Bro-fist Palmar, would you do it? 4) Between GM, Node and BC, who do you think has the most town cred based on this thread alone? 5) Between GM, Node and BC, who do you think controls the opinions of others the most? 6) Between Palmar's frattiness and red's Masonry, who's role do you find the most interesting based on information you have now? 7) Assuming you had the entire town's ear and you know everyone would believe you, what do you want to say FIRST? If anyone doesn't feel comfortable answering my inane questions, feel free to ignore them. Everyone else, take note of who doesn't want to answer my inane questions. You suggested lynching/killing BC because he is "Leader of Town",nice try but Incog played EXACTLY same style in PYPI,where I tried to get him killed as Mafia. When someone plays an important role in Town's mind they'll stay there and every slip is going to be caught. That survey is shit. "Hey guys I am Mafia and I need some help who to kill and how to behave" Nope. You went downhill Viscera. As I thought nobody is going to lynch bum,not even kita. Wiggles "Don't worry bros,I will come in,vote on the guy the bandwagon is forming,he is the most safest vote,You know." I will keep eye on You,Wiggles,this and BC's point about You derailing the thread makes me really suspicious,so take this as a warning ##Vote:Mr.Wiggles BC,Prp's case is a bit fishy,I agree.Though we can't do anything about him now,because he is just a coward,I mean,he does not want go get lynched for the same reasons Tackster would. I'd like to point out the change in Barundar's meta - in PYPI he was NEARLY lynched for being aggressive,insanely pro-town and such,now he is making opinions,though trying to stay low. This gives some town vibes in my opinion,he is playing safe,because he know how can it end. Sand gives me a lot of town vibes also. He is really emotional in his posts and want US to believe him,sign of desperate townie (just like me in XXXIX) BloodyCobbler is my best bet for townie right now,if we've got any medics get ready to work during the night,this might get ugly. I dislike how Mataza did not respond to my questions. Are You scared? You told me and Bum to stop arguing,disappeared. Tnkted case is simple : alignment check him,easy as that. I still believe there's a connection between bum and kitaman,so with redff and amber. While the first case is scum in my opinion,the second sounds more town,though "I need to vote to talk" thing might be easily used to avoid being suspected,because You don't need to jump on a bandwagon as scum. I agree we should take a main suspect ,because in PYPI there were 3 (6 votes,6 votes,7 votes as far I remember) every was townie,giving mafia EAAAAAASY lynch. I am sorry for being spammy and stuff,that's kind of my playstyle. | ||
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On June 01 2011 21:04 Mataza wrote: Yes I defend people. So? I may have misread, but I think someone mentioned that he changed his posting behaviour because of RL drama. Can´t find the post now, but I think it was said. *I do not defend his shoddy posting quality, I attack the argument that he should be more active because he was in the past.* If he actually didn´t have any RL problems, I am of course wrong here. My bad. WIFOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM | ||
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On June 01 2011 21:07 Mataza wrote: Oh Kurumi, what exactly was your question? After You told me and bum to stop arguing,I asked You to give something to discuss about. | ||
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Mr.Wiggles Sandroba Varpulis Node Cthsazsa Meapak_Ziphh This is from the vote thread,nothing official. Sandroba is second with 4 votes from: Bumatlarge Amber[LighT] Prplhz Jackal58 | ||
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People who did not vote: Karshe Chaos13 Tackster Hiro Protagonist BloodyC0bbler Torte de Lini Barundar Stefftastiq | ||
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On June 01 2011 21:47 stefftastiq wrote: my vote goes for tnkted as for the moment - might be changed later if he stands up and answers to the posts ive made - even tho i might be overeager and noob - still dont like the attitude in his posts - doesnt really seem town friendly I also wonder about his powa to be guaranteed in the late game :-) going to work, back in 6 hours to check how things are going #Vote tnkted Really vague,is this really why You're voting him? | ||
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Let me read them carefully... | ||
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About Your analysis: You point out that tnkted is a vet,bringing entire post,ok. Also You show some emotions - You're a bit scared. Tnkted point about Varpulis at least trying is not really strong,but good enough. Anyone who wants to bring discussion about something good(probably plan,night checks etc) is at least trying,while it is not like "he is townie" but it gives some townie points. You agreed with his plan,still You're against him. Pointing fingers IS BAD. Mass pointing is good for mafia though,because townies don't know which thing they should grab and shake to get information. He is obviously trying to get Mafia attention and make Town leave him alone,as I said alignment check and we're OK. Bill Murray = VI from PYPI,both Coag and Bill are players,I will go with that crumb in a while. Tnkted tries to make us understand his role and motives. Discussing about analysis is CRUCIAL,Mafia would want to run with crap analysis and get town credit for it because "I did analysis,cmon!" Bad analysis is scum or new town tell. You end Your post with "I don't see that Tnkted is Mafia nor Town,he's just suspicious" then why the hell You picked him? How is he the scummiest person around You then? Because You claimed he is,but never made a clear statement about Tnkted. I call a safe play,which is mostly scum tell and I know myself because I've done same shit in PYPI. Still though I buy You being a new town. | ||
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On June 01 2011 22:11 chaos13 wrote: Alright, I go to bed and wake up eight hours later and this thread has descended into a whirlwind of even more madness and stupidity than when I left it. 1. Amber has not confirmed that redFF's Zodiac list is accurate, or even exists at all. I would conclude that the two of them are scum, but if they were, Amber would have been in here to confirm it by now. He needs to say something ASAP. I agree. If Amber does not show up,does not confirm,tries to advocate himself with "I was busy" I think we should lynch redff then Amber. 2. Go look at the voting thread. We have 14 different candidates. FOURTEEN. How many scum are there? Most likely around 6 or 7. YES,YES! I will take my vote off probably after Wiggles speaks up,even if not I am going to switch it. 3. VisceraEyes. This is one of the biggest bandwagons I've seen in a while. He posted a quick survey intended to generate discussion. It did so. Nothing scummy about that in itself. That survey was weird and sinani206 pointed out it flaws. 4. BloodyC0bbler's suspect list. From a player who I've heard to be as experienced as you, that was a terrible, terrible post. Most of the players on there are just inexperienced. Bad analysis =/= scum. Think if you were on a mafia team and had a new player or two who was ready to go post their excellent analysis on an unsuspecting townie. Would you let them do it and draw attention to themselves? I know I wouldn't. Noobtells are not scumtells. Sure,but bad analysis is scum/noobtell. If You get a BAD analysis from good player,what does it mean? They certainly are not noob. 5. Lurkers. Mig, Karshe, Tackster, Kenpachi, hiro protagonist, Palmar, Torte de Lini, Barundar, and probably a few others I've missed. These are all people who have either contributed one or two posts every now and then, but nothing of substance, or people who posted near the beginning of the game and then disappeared. We are trying to resolve this issue,I'd like to point out at Karshe,who did nothing yet. 6. tnkted's vote. He has already mentioned that it was on Coagulation because Coag isn't in the game. He has also said that it has something to do with his role. I'll say it again, cause we can't seem to get our heads around it, but role =/= alignment. If that is the only reason you're voting for him, I suggest you change it. I do agree. 7. Someone earlier mentioned that Jackal58 was looking a little scummy. I agree, but he is also extremely hard to analyze. Even as town he is cryptic and aggressive, so there is no way to tell right now. I think the chance that he is town is greater than the chance he is scum right now. I think I will look myself into Jackal's case 8. I think we should definitely keep the idea of the Zodiac list in play, and put lots of pressure on the players who are on it. Here is my personal Zodiac list bumatlarge BloodyC0bbler GMarshal Meapak_Ziphh DropBear Node Jackal58 kitaman27 Rean Mr. Wiggles tnkted I feel that these players should have more pressure put on them to contribute meaningfully and regularly. So far, very few of them have been doing so. The chance that at least 1 or 2 of them are scum is high. I am going to have to cast my vote within the next hour or so. Right now I have it down to a few candidates, but I don't think it will do any good today, seeing as everyone else has voted for a noob townie or some other random player. I don't feel that the two leaders, Tackster and Sandroba, are scummy. Overall I agree with this post,the point about Sandroba and Tackster is valid. If they're indeed scum,we will know that really soon. | ||
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We're not coaching here. We are playing Mafia here. If You continue to play bad,You'll get lynched,because You look scummy with bad analysis,reads,moves and such. I don't think You should pick at random,because You should pick THE SCUMMIEST person. I wonder why You just said that You wanted to derail the thread with that analysis what's the point? Unless You have something really hot and good,there's no point in giving excess information which leads us nowhere. | ||
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On June 01 2011 22:59 stefftastiq wrote: @Mataza It wasnt me who said it was weak Well - I could call my vote a pressure vote? Im off. I don't know. It is up to You. Hey Prp,how is it going,running away from sinking ship,You little rat? | ||
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On June 01 2011 23:05 prplhz wrote: @Kurumi There's really no need to get personal here. Just state what's on your mind instead. You're not a person,duh,You're a rat. You had,SO BIG case against Sandroba,You even called him SCUM. You were acting like You were SURE he is scum and now "well I agree with chaos13,I will move my vote now" What? Sandroba has 4 votes,2 votes behind Tackster who is going to get unvoted after he comes back and defends himself. Maybe You just want to blend in? "I was SURE that SANDROBA(who is scumscumscumscum) was scum,but well he isn't scum because he isn't scum. Also what people have to do with Your opinion? You had a HUGE case,You needed to go with it,unless.. You are scum. The opinion that people don't agree/follow You (4votes,3 without You) is bullshit. You did not answer my question too. You're obviously bandwagoning. "If they decide to lynch Sandroba,I'll just jump in." Thanks. You easily could get my vote,but You will taste by bullet this night,for safety measures with this game,since we have one person already immune to lynches. | ||
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*pets doggy* Good boy. Any more info? | ||
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On June 01 2011 23:24 prplhz wrote: @Kurumi sandroba has 3 votes with 2 votes being removed from him already. Tackster has 6 votes. What? No? Amber,Jackal nor Bum did not unvote him. You Scum. | ||
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Claiming role being able to kill,yes. | ||
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On June 01 2011 23:30 tnkted wrote: What?! Tackster has 6 votes?! Why the hell are we voting tackster?! He is almost certainly not scum, hes just afk! Jesus, I hadn't realized it had gotten this bad According to my papers,it was Sandroba who started voting on Tack. | ||
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On June 01 2011 23:43 Mataza wrote: Btw, it was Meapak Ziphh who voted for Tackster first. Really? Thanks a lot! (: It isn't a police shoot,it is a 100% mafia hit. | ||
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On June 01 2011 23:57 hiro protagonist wrote: I just woke up, I have 1) mins to decide on a vote... not a lot helps. the people that are voteing trakster are still there, and have not moved on to other targets. this worrys me, as there are far better candidates to lynch/pressure. I have some bad feelings about some of the people voting for him. I think trakster will flip green. ##vote sandroba I want to pressure anyone voting for trakster to come out for reasons, other than activity, to vote for him. I think Sandroba is a good choice, as others before me have said. mostly I want to even out the trakster vote. You were supposed to talk about MZ. Start doing it now. | ||
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On June 02 2011 00:05 hiro protagonist wrote: I have no time but I encourage everyone to look back on his post and determine there own thoughts. I know you feel he is scummy, help me out. I will be back just before the deadline I hope, good luck town. It makes no sense,You focused on Node,promised to do something about MZ,now You're leaving us without nothing more than "He is scummy". Is Sandroba scummier than MZ? Why? | ||
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On June 02 2011 00:16 Torte de Lini wrote: ##Vote: Kurumi I gave You enough time,15 minutes to be exact. Care to explain? Your post about my vote was really weak and just stated that You will vote for me because of "given reasons". | ||
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Torte,You can't say "My vote does nothing" voting is ESSENTIAL for town to win the game. This is one of the most(obviously) important things in this game. By voting we get lynch,with lynch we can get dead scum,townie or 3rd party. If we're lynching that means his death will bring us information and Town NEEDS information. The Mafia nor neutral role count was not given. So,Sinani isn't pro-town. He didn't slip red too. What does that mean? 1) He did not make enough posts 2) He is lurking Did You get that into Your post? Of course not,because saying he is might be bad town or bad mafia is more important. | ||
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On June 02 2011 00:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: No I genuinely think he's scum, look at his posts. The fact that there is so much debate also lends itself to this in my opinion. Also GM, get on your game man, I'm actually getting suspicious of you, I can always tell when you're town but I'm not getting that feel this game. Oh and would the people who think I'm scum at least tell me why so I can address your points. At his posts? Only one of his posts is actually game related. | ||
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On June 02 2011 01:43 kitaman27 wrote: Unfortunately I'm probably won't be able to be around for lynches because they are in the middle of the day, so I have to cast my final vote now. I really dislike the fact that tnkted's reply to pressure is "lol I can't die so I'm not going to respond". He isn't making an attempt to help town and is waving his invulnerability in front of everyone. Wouldn't a town hide this fact in order to draw hits? He has my vote. You've got scum in front of You and You're not going to lynch it? Go to hell with Your safe vote and "I won't be there" excuse,excuses are getting old people. | ||
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About Viscera,yeah it is weird,but he is a bit new. Voting for Yourself or a safe player is a placeholder,GMarshal explained that,huge post,not much though. | ||
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GET OVER IT. Sandroba defended himself well,put emotions in it,we should leave him for now. Tnkted on the other hand needs and alignment check and we're OK to go. Trackster had made ONLY ONE post witch any info regarding our game,so why the heck 6 people are voting him? Bandwagon much? Give this guy time,if he does not come back he will get modkilled. The serious problem has risen on the horizon: Viscera and Karshe are attacking BC with some HORRIBLE arguments. Prplhz admitted he is mafia,so could we get that one? Just to sum up: He was after Sandroba HARDCORE,then he posts this gem: On June 01 2011 22:52 prplhz wrote: Okay I agree that there's no point in spreading votes like this. sandroba has had his share of pressure put on him and if people don't think that he slipped then I guess I'll drop my case against him for now. ##Unvote sandroba Yeah. On June 01 2011 23:24 prplhz wrote: @Kurumi sandroba has 3 votes with 2 votes being removed from him already. Tackster has 6 votes. Really? How did You know that? SCUM?! | ||
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On June 02 2011 04:06 prplhz wrote: I am going to vote for Kurumi because I find his behavior disruptive. I think he has about 60-70 posts in this game so far and I bet almost all of them are one/two liners. I also have another reason that makes him scummy, he has done something that we all agreed townies should not do, but I cannot tell you about that until day2. ##Vote: Kurumi Respond to my attacks scum. | ||
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On June 02 2011 04:56 chaos13 wrote: That's some quality analysis right there you two. Jackal, you have nothing to gain by not posting the reasons you think Sandroba is scum. Same with the reasons you think I am scum. Likewise for you, Palmar. I wasn't defending him. I was saying you two need to stop spamming up the thread with your back-and-forth bickering. I actually had something against him. If I were to vote on one of these four it would be VisceraEyes,I'd need to get some intel though,because You won't buy it otherwise;tnkted,sandroba are town in my opinion,tackster is going to be modkilled. | ||
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VisceraEyes On June 02 2011 02:48 VisceraEyes wrote: @Everyone else I don't care if ANYONE answers my survey. I thought I made that clear. If people answer my survey, it will help town as people will have more information to compare against in the future when scum-hunting. But the point wasn't for people to answer, the point was for people to THINK about the questions, which obviously people have. Ok,I said that his survey and such was a newbie move,but he justifies it and talks as it was a plan. It makes me think that he wanted to get town cred with that,act cool and stuff. What's the point of posting something which You don't care about being discussed? Ah yes,derailing the thread. On June 01 2011 15:24 VisceraEyes wrote: No, but there's a difference between being aggressive in your posting and just being insulting and rude. But whatever. Teach me how awful I am, if you think you can. And if you're alive that long. If You're alive that long? Sure You want to kill one of the most pro-town guys around there,Viscera.. It's all shady for me though,he's the scummiest among the four candidates: tnkted needs alignment check and we're home sandroba is desperate townie,if he is indeed scum it will flow out next day. Trackster is inactive,though he posted now. I think we should tell him NOT TO use his power or he is shot/policy lynched. I'd go for prplhz,but You're not willing too,like with every suspect of mine.. Well,Bum is spewing some green happiness now. | ||
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On June 02 2011 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote: I stand by my vote on BloodyC0bbler. If anyone is waiting to see if I'll scum-switch, not even to save my life. If I die, make damn sure you guys are confident of the motives of who you follow. This vote is not helping us right now,we've heard You,move on please. | ||
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On June 02 2011 05:44 Palmar wrote: Meh, I switched again, cause I'm just that baller. VisEyes wasn't getting enough on him anyway. Who wants to check out a bro and see if tnkted really won't hang? That'd be funny as hell. ##Vote tnkted PALMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR Bro,can't You keep dat shit straight? You just votin' on errybody,think Yo. Viscera Guy is close to get lynched,we just need more information,You diggin'? | ||
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On June 02 2011 05:46 hiro protagonist wrote: @Kurumi: are you gonna keep your vote where it is? Not sure,there's something weird about Tntked being voted a lot,when the Tackster tower falls,there will be a lot of mess. | ||
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On June 02 2011 05:48 Palmar wrote: ok, cool, back to viseyes for me too Varpulis, you better fucking stick a vote on VisEyes. I don't get You Palmar. | ||
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On June 02 2011 05:50 VisceraEyes wrote: 10 minutes until voting ends. I hope you guys know what you're doing. Don't waste time on that,You rather should convince us to lynch someone in Your place -_- | ||
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On June 02 2011 05:53 VisceraEyes wrote: Town Veteran Zombie Targetting BC Your move Mafia. Oh my God,who gave that kid such a tool? | ||
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On June 02 2011 06:07 Node wrote: Fuck goddamn. I hate you all. Does that role description mean bum is scum? It wouldn't surprise me. More like Assassin or Serial Killer. | ||
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On June 02 2011 06:10 chaos13 wrote: Two townies lost -.- Oh well, we can't blame Vis for taking out the player he felt was scummiest. Decon can you please do an official final vote count? Are You advocating his decision? Are You crazy? | ||
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On June 02 2011 06:15 bumatlarge wrote: Well I guess I don't really have a choice but to act like a claimed SK day1. That's cool. I have to survive to win anyway, so I'll just ally with town for however long they want to keep me around. I'm bulletproof of course, so you would have to use a lynch on me, or maybe some bomb or BP-penetrating thing. Maybe BC needed to be the hero gotham needed instead of the one it deserved LOLOLOLOLOL Good You're willing to help at least. | ||
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On June 02 2011 06:22 Palmar wrote: The bro's guide to night 1 Here's a list of targets for night 1: DT check: Node, Jackal58 Kill: Varpulis, Mataza, Chaos13, Kurumi. Jackal seems pro town, I want him cleared so I can work with him. Node is suspicious, but he gives a vibe of a pretty good player. I think that bro really needs to be confirmed on or off. We kill Varpulis and Chaos13 cause they're scum. We kill Mataza and Kurumi to shut them up. I suggest we ask Bumatlarge to kill Mataza. "To shut them up" What? Why? And why the heck tnkted is not on the dt list? | ||
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I suggest making Tackster not using his power,given that we kill/lynch him if he does. | ||
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Why are You suggesting to kill prplhz? Maybe he's unkillable? Oh,that would make sense to vote on his death,prplhz does not die,bum is lynched.. So easy. Sorry guys for switching vote on Viscera,Sandroba was scummier. My Mafia list: Sandroba,he's 100% Prlphz,he's 100% Palmar Meapak_Ziphh Town reads are as obvious as BC's green blood,You know who they are. | ||
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On June 02 2011 23:23 tnkted wrote: Also #vote VisceraEyes. He seems scummy (ha!). You freaking Necrophiliac,why bring crazy bodies again into our game. | ||
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On June 02 2011 23:27 prplhz wrote: @Kurumi I think someone said that you roleclaimed at some point, but I don't remember that and I'm not going through that cesspool that is your posts again to find it. So did you roleclaim, and if you did, could you repeat what you said or link me to it? I am very confused about you. No scum,do it Yourself. | ||
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On June 03 2011 03:57 flamewheel wrote: Holy snap this is 69 pages already? I heard there's spammer somewhere,not sure where. | ||
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Scum list: Gmarshal Bumatlarge Kitaman27 Prplhz Sandroba (Palmar) - might be overeager townie,notice how he wants me dead,then stops,they might be framing him (Mataza) – someone pointed that out already (Tackster) – refuses to stop using his anti-town role (Karshe) Palmar is going to be invited into PM circle by Gmarshal this night. Have fun town. Prplhz plays too bold. He must have some role immune to checks/kills/lynches or whatever. | ||
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Desk was a mafia hit. Varp was Palmar's hit. Prp was Node's hit. Mafia has only 1KP in entire team? | ||
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On June 03 2011 06:08 bumatlarge wrote: Roleblocked, touche scum. Touche Scum,because You all made it up. GMarshal is Your bro,isn't he? You all knew that I could verify amount of Your KP. You just couldn't spare that 4KP on killing me,so instead You rbed me. You will push for my lynch and I know that. | ||
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Bumatlarge chosen my role. That may but may not indicate GM is scum. I told GM everything about my role. Bum crumbs it when he talks about smelling things from far away. I am Tarp Mage and I feel KP from galaxy away. I was roleblocked,thus I couldn't use my role. At one point in the game I said I could confirm Bum being scum using my role. His roleblock claim is FALSE. I've chosen role for Prplhz. | ||
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Oh shit,I better claim again now,should I? | ||
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I am Serial Killer. If this helps town I am all for lynching me,though I'd like to get rid of that pesky roleblocker and get You KP list at least. | ||
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On June 03 2011 06:36 Mr. Wiggles wrote: If you think I'm scum, go back through the thread, and tell me how I'm scum. Read my posts. I haven't been as active as I've wanted to be, but I've been trying to help the town, and avoid getting embroiled in the mass confusion that's been so prevalent. Look at what I wrote during the night: I had no idea who to shoot last night, and was probably going to save my shot to avoid exactly the kind of massacre that happened today. Than sinani claimed that he could revive bum, so I wrote: However, thinking about it, I weighed the risks that sinani was lying didn't outweigh the benefits that we would get from having BC back as a confirmed town analyst. As well, I wasn't personally worried about actually dying if it was a trap. Look back through my posts, what I said correlates to what I did. You weren't suspicious at any point,so there was not point in framing You,Rat. Just shut up and wait for Your lynch | ||
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Yeah,but You're not going to share it because it is fast and You can't catch it,right. Wiggles,mafia would have no point in framing You,so stop it. | ||
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On June 03 2011 06:46 Node wrote: Well that's pretty interesting. GG (sorry for the edit, but PS, READ MY FREAKING WILL) Yeah You picked role for Tackster,anything missing? | ||
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On June 03 2011 06:51 hiro protagonist wrote: dont dayvig wiggles. I gave him his role. We aren't. We are lynching him. | ||
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On June 03 2011 06:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote: just throwing this out there, since I've been told I'm allowed to post it. *you should lynch sinani* Hey guys. I would rather dayvig Sinani,but it's BC's will to lynch sinani,so. | ||
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On June 03 2011 06:54 Mr. Wiggles wrote: You are Jules Winnfield. That's right, the worlds most Bad Ass Mother Fucker. You carry a gun that has 2 bullets, which you can use once a night to "lay your vengeance upon thee" (kill someone). You are also so intimidating that you can roleblock someone at night. You may only do 1 of the 2. Should someone bust out of the bathroom and start firing shot after shot at you, they will all miss (know matter how many people are trying to kill you), which you see as a "miracle"(unless you are under doc protection, then its not a miracle). Should a "miracle" happen, you decide to give up your life of murder and intimidation and become a vanilla guy with no special ability. He can confirm YES,WE'VE GOT THAT ROLEBLOCKER WHO BLOCKED ME Nailed it. | ||
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No,he claimed he miracously evades hits.. Speaking of miracles it sounds like Wiggles' role. | ||
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Your alignment is Serial Killer Fine with You,Kita? | ||
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On June 03 2011 07:20 kitaman27 wrote: Thank you, if this doesn't match what whoever assigned Kurumi's role please claim now. Also, what was the result for your kp check last night? Roleblocked. | ||
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On June 03 2011 07:25 Eternalmisfit wrote: Does role-blocking stop SK from using his non-role KP? If decon doesn't answer this, for those who have been around in the mafia forum longer, what is general precedent for role-block and SK/Assassin KP usage? I don't know if I can quote deconduo's pm but he told me that only my role was blocked and my SK-related skills are left untouched. | ||
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On June 03 2011 07:29 Eternalmisfit wrote: Interesting that you say so since you wouldn't know that you were role-blocked till the day post. I think deconduo must confirm this,but results of my role come one hour before day post. | ||
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On June 03 2011 17:49 Palmar wrote: obtw, kurumi bro said I'd be invited to some circle shit. But that aint true. I'm not in anything like that. I agree with lynching wiggles tonight. ##Vote: MrWiggles Yeah,because GMarshal lied to me and he is scum,he claimed roleblock too. He can KILL people in his circle btw. Also You don't need 2kp to kill me. It is 3KP or 4KP if I am not roleblocked. 2kp to destroy my vest 1 kp to kill me actually,with role I can block one bullet. It is obvious for me that Mataza,GM,Bum and Wiggles are Mafia. | ||
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On June 03 2011 21:23 Jackal58 wrote: You're not fucking town. You're the goddamned serial killer. I wanted to be town this game >:C I told GM I will help based on his alignment,but he lied and I won't switch sides now >:C My objective is to survive. Until I decide to give my own head a shot I am doing it :E Bum,will You be like "You played terrible,damn You" then yeah,I did. I don't felt good with SK from the very beginning because as for me - it is impossible not to get killed/lynched at some point of the game(see:erratic posting,chaos and spammy style) also thanks for the role,though You could keep that from Your mafia bros so I could use it at least once tt | ||
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On June 03 2011 23:34 Jackal58 wrote: Only one problem with your scenario. Scum knew who the mole was. Could be Chaos defending a future scum or scum killing off Val to gain town cred. You're more a shade of baby shit green than townie green. Fucking posting restrictions are gonna get me fucking killed texttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttext Just in case someone needs to spam emotes too for You not to get killed. | ||
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On June 03 2011 23:46 chaos13 wrote: Palmar, you're also missing the part where I defended VisceraEyes, prplhz, and Sandroba. All of them turned out to be town. Maybe you guys should start listening to me. All those four behaved weirdly. | ||
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Well I think I posted it somewhere. Though You don't need to believe that,the only part I am sure of is "PM circle" He also claimed that he can invite to it. | ||
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On June 04 2011 03:51 Mr. Wiggles wrote: I like pie! I like pie too,could we share recipes? | ||
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It was Node who was targetted by scum,veteran on town's side. (IT MAKES SENSE) I killed Sandroba Palmar killed Varpulis Prplhz was killed by Node (Last will) Roleblock blocked my role,not my "Serial Killer" | ||
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On June 04 2011 05:35 Rean wrote: Did I miss where Tackster got modkilled? The OP says he's dead but I didn't see anything about that Yeah.. What's his flip lol? Did Torte post at Night? | ||
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On June 04 2011 18:45 Kurumi wrote: I will shoot Bum with pleasure. This will wake up noob scum with medic claims and shit,so I guess it is very good. Everything I wanted to say. | ||
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On June 05 2011 02:45 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Why is town going to keep you around again? You do realize that you aren't part of town, you're a third-part serial killer who wins on his own. Because: I count as town for Mafia's objective to overrun townies I need to be killed by Mafia to achieve their victory Mafia needs to push a lynch or waste KP on me to actually kill me. | ||
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On June 05 2011 02:49 Jackal58 wrote: We need Palmar on board and with 2 kp at his disposal. Kurumi if we can prevent Palmar and Bum from shooting townies by killing you we not only save random townie kills we save ourselves from having to lynch you. Not my fault you claimed SK. Not my fault You can't control scum or overeager townies. | ||
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Palmar with 2kp and Bum with 1kp won't end me. A roleblocker and them will. Get it townies already: 3KP + Roleblocker. That means 4 PEOPLE NEED TO TARGET ME to actually kill me in one night. Isn't it like,entire scum team? | ||
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On June 05 2011 03:00 Jackal58 wrote: Bum has claimed to be bulletproof. Not 2 kp proof. His alignment may be SK but his role has made him somewhat more difficult to eliminate than Kurumi. We will lynch Bum as that is the only way we can eliminate him. If we can shoot the shit out of Kurumi with Palamar and Bum we have saved a lynch. At least that's the way I see it. Bum also claimed he was roleblocked and couldn't shoot,does this ring something in Your head? | ||
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On June 05 2011 03:04 Jackal58 wrote: If scum help to save you they are stupid and I have no doubt about towns ability to win. Scum don't want you here any more than us townies do. If they do protect you you are not an SK you are scum. Do You mean that someone from "my scumteam" told me to say that now? No moron,I pointed out it as fast as bum claimed SK. | ||
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On June 05 2011 03:35 tnkted wrote: Well, ok, Red is scum then That makes Amber scum too. Can I splat Red's brain please? | ||
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On June 05 2011 03:46 bumatlarge wrote: Nice, another person to push a lynch on instead of me. Nope,You're dead. | ||
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On June 05 2011 04:04 Jackal58 wrote: I am going out and won't be back til later. Palamar shoot Kumari with your 2 kp. Bum shoot Kumari with your 1. Fistbump the shit out of Palamar guys. Cya all later. When this game is over I'm never posting another smiley again. Fucking smileys I hope doing Viscera move on You will teach town something. | ||
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On June 05 2011 05:18 redFF wrote: See Good job town. GM should sacrifice Kurumi. If i may I would like to ask for entry to pm circles so we can try and link all the separate pm circles we have. Vigs shoot Torte or Mataza. Kurumi should shoot BUm. Palmar should shoot bum and then either Torte or Mataza. Just my opinions though. I'd like a check on Rean I think. Nope. | ||
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On June 05 2011 05:26 chaos13 wrote: DO NOT CLAIM THIS UNTIL DAY 3. If you claim it now, mafia have a near-confirmed townie to shoot. Oh cmon,don't take Kitaman's satisfaction on getting townie so easy! | ||
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On June 05 2011 05:37 Palmar wrote: I thought I was shooting kurumi? Shoot me and if I don't die I will make sure You will hit me next night. | ||
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On June 05 2011 05:42 Mig wrote: Well if bum doesn't shoot tdl then we can pretty much confirm either he or tdl is scum. He will claim roleblock if tdl doesn't die. Then we would know either A) he is lying about that or B) mafia did roleblock him because they were saving red tdl. But yea I would be fine with palmar shooting tdl as well. We can always have GM sacrifice kurumi we don't have to have all the vigs shoot at him. His roleblock was false You morons. SK CAN SHOOT EVEN IT WAS ROLEBLOCKED Roleblocked SK can shoot? | ||
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On June 05 2011 05:46 Eternalmisfit wrote: Role-block Kurumi - so he can't use his role to avoid the KP. And I can't check how many KP flies around,yeah. | ||
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On June 05 2011 05:58 Palmar wrote: If you don't get modkilled for that you're 100% lying, not even the slightest chance you're telling the truth. If he's not lying, he better get modkilled. I will,I just re-read rules,well whatever. I think 3-4 people asked that question. | ||
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On June 05 2011 07:08 GMarshal wrote: In that case I have to sacrifice you tonight. Not having a PM buddy is going to make me sad -__- I thought You were going to do this anyway -_- This way I can shoot Meapak then. | ||
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On June 05 2011 08:09 Jackal58 wrote: The only one I had close to an argument with on day one was Sandroba and his belief that killing useless townies was a good move. The person in question was TdL but I would have had that argument with him no matter what name he picked. Even you red. Nice OMGUS Kita. You scummy puke. How's preparing a coffin with Your Pink Teddy Circle? | ||
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On June 05 2011 09:40 Rean wrote: On June 05 2011 02:49 Rean wrote: For who gave Node the ability to write his last will: if you can do that again, please use it on me. There is some important information about the role I gave out and I can't risk dying without telling town. Bolding this because it's seriously important. What are the deadlines for sending in actions & at what time does the night post get posted? no problem nra member | ||
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On June 05 2011 14:48 bumatlarge wrote: Great, so get off my ass for getting roleblocked you silly townies. Meapak_Ziphh bro just came to help You? I wonder which guy from the dead ones was Torte's role creator. | ||
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On June 06 2011 03:00 bumatlarge wrote: Aw palmer's gonna use his imba shot on me? Reconsider that one bro! I'm decided not to tell you who I'm gonna shoot, because there is no way I'm getting through this next cycle. You're going to shoot either Jackal or DropBear. | ||
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Yeah You were my first target. | ||
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On June 06 2011 03:32 Jackal58 wrote: There's a reason why we don't give monkeys guns. I am not town nor scum,so what's Your problem? | ||
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On June 06 2011 04:21 Jackal58 wrote: Apparently getting shot. Bum, Palmar - Shoot this guy. I am not shooting You,Your emotes make me laugh,that's good enough for me. | ||
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I will claim after the deadline. | ||
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On June 06 2011 05:41 sinani206 wrote: Wasn't the day post supposed to be 40 minutes ago? I think it is like 20 minutes to Day~ | ||
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On June 06 2011 05:43 sinani206 wrote: I guess... I hope noone targetted You if You would get roleblocked I was willing to help,but You denied me. Have fun Meapak. | ||
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On June 06 2011 05:45 sinani206 wrote: Also, if I die, remember that SKs and Assassins are just as important to kill as Mafia. You're in that circle too? Jeez.. Why You didn't use that emoticon thing Day 1 when circle was working too? | ||
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Also sup people,chaos13 is obviously Palmar's hit,kitaman is my hit and Meapak is Mafia's hit. Mafia has 1kp,You mad? | ||
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Also Palmar is Mafia. There's no possibilty that mafia wouldn't like You dead and You never claimed getting hit,so I hope You die. I survived thanks to my role,unless GM is blocked next night I am dead. | ||
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1Kp is my kp 1Kp is mafia's kp 1kp is palmar's kp we have 3kp running wild somewhere,just bringing this back: Bum is not SK. Bum lost his powers after Batman got killed(isn't that obvious?) | ||
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On June 06 2011 10:38 bumatlarge wrote: It does suck ass I shot kurumi, because I thought I could get rid of his negation, but apparently it went into his vest? I guess he only has one more hit to hit him then. If I remember how his role works.... Only GMarshal's hit registered,please die already. | ||
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On June 06 2011 22:44 GMarshal wrote: So kurumi, who are you going to vote for then? You seem convinced that both Palmar and Bum are scum, which do you want dead first? and sorry about killing you -__- Bum is obvious godfather,when Palmar grants second KP to mafia,isn't that obvious? I am up for lynching Palmar,so they have only 1KP. | ||
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On June 07 2011 00:57 bumatlarge wrote: Wow gmarshal, that's a pretty pathetic display of nothing. I guess it was a mistake to assume that my role being outed makes me certain anti-town. I thought it was fairly certain that it did, but everyone here is using me being an SK as an excuse to distract discussion. How you guys let half the discussion revolve around me is beyond me. And of course kurumi says I didn't hit him, the guy has a deathwish on me and actually believes my claim, or you know he could have shot me any of the nights? He didn't? ??? Gee why would he not shoot someone he is sure is scum and can kill? Because he knows I am what I say, and there isn't jack shit he can do about it. For all the scenarios that you guys fabricate of me being scum, (which is all very beautiful but let's face it the only reason you think I could be scum is I'm not afraid to fakeclaim) it is just as likely for kurumi to be scum. It's not hard to see, but I did shoot him, so it's likely he had an additional form of protection. I did not lose my power, if I did, I think deconduo would have removed me from the game, but we agreed that I could attempt to achieve my win condition as a factor in the game, even if I can't win. Who would protect me? I used my Tarp Mage ability on Gmarshal's Death Note and proceed to live happily after. You're Scum Godfather,who lost his powers. Palmar is granting Your second KP. IT was Your idea to kill Varpulis after one of Your buddies told You his role. You didn't want to share Mafia from PYPI's fate. It all makes sense. It's highly likely one of Your guys is that Mad Hatter or whatever it is. I shot Sandroba because I thought he was scum. I shot kitaman27 because I was angry at Town for not wanting to help me,but rather to help Mafia Godfather. | ||
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On June 07 2011 01:04 bumatlarge wrote: Then grow some balls and shoot me next time, so I can see you slink away with a "oh You guys, shot bum, he live boohoo" instead of "well You guys Bum is scum godfather with 8kp, but I shot kitaman cuz hes scummy sorry bum is scum" I wonder if we should take care of mastermind or the killing monkey servant. | ||
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On June 07 2011 01:13 bumatlarge wrote: Look, you could have called my "bluff" at any time. mataza just said I have had no one visiting me night 2, so I either have the role or I don't. You change your accusation of me to something different every 12 hours or so. You blatantly lie and claim just to get at me in some sick attempt to get me lynched Town should probably lynch either me or kurumi, but I'm going to stay on palmar if it has any chance of saving my life. I know You want to bus Your scumbuddy and it is very hard to deal with it (You'll be left with 1Kp) You're Mafia Godfather. You can't deny that. | ||
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On June 07 2011 01:24 sinani206 wrote: Just letting everyone know that I was role-blocked last night. I propose not to kill me until we can find who the roleblocker was and kill him. TDL is the roleblocker and now confirmed Scum. | ||
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On June 07 2011 01:27 Eternalmisfit wrote: DropBear's claim makes a lot of sense based on the information I have. Either Kurumi or Palmar are lying on their KP claims since mafia should have killed one of those with their KP. Why I am always lying,God damnit is Bum doing something extra during the night? >not meant to offend anyone lol< | ||
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On June 07 2011 01:34 bumatlarge wrote: OH OF COURSE KURUMI. XD Something seems off so it must be bum who is doing extra things. Perhaps you should rethink your facts you + Show Spoiler + gorgeous beast Just letting You know,as confirmed SK I don't need to contribute anymore,but You need some town cred,Mafia Godfather? Before trying to convince people You're on the "good" side do something to back it up. | ||
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On June 07 2011 02:01 Torte de Lini wrote: Why would you say this? Not contributing just makes me not care whether you're lynched, killed or something happens to you. Why don't we just off you now and rid ourselves from your endangerments? Is Amber or Rean here? I never found out their roles if they role-claimed ;x Another useless lurker who is scum. You did not contribute too and You're mass mafia roleblocker,get out. | ||
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On June 07 2011 02:10 Torte de Lini wrote: Good job deflecting instead of bringing any form of credibility to your name. You don't even know how my blocking works, I can't do anything about it you dolt. Then You should ask for vigi shot,because townie roleblocking other townies is a huge drawback. Of course You won't be active nor ask for removing Yourself because You're anti-town just because of role,because You're scum. Also Your posts make no sense. "I HAVE NO CRED,I ROLEBLOCK EVERYONE,I LURK,BUT YOU HAVE NO CRED,SO GET CRED" No. I won't listen to scum. I am done tomorrow and I am happy they will get rid of You and Bum. | ||
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On June 07 2011 02:22 Torte de Lini wrote: How am I confirmed scum? Because people are getting role-blocked by a passive ability I can't control? Or because you guys are mindless followers to the hothead pimple named RedFF who conveniently can "tell" who's who by an unnamed source who we are lead to believe and accept without objection or question. It's like the fucking Renaissance all over again lolololol Do You have that freaking post restriction or not? You were USELESS,contributed nothing and did not ask to get removed by town,when knowing Your role is amazingly anti-town. You're scum. | ||
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On June 07 2011 02:32 Torte de Lini wrote: I've already wasted 4 on your scrawny ass. I do, but sadly you can't count and you obviously can't put two and two together. My role is fucking neutral, if you can't decide who to block and you don't know who you block, it becomes irrelevant to which alignment the power is. You let me know when you get your shit together. Investigate me and find out what or who I am. Oh wait, you can't do anything right. You just throw harpoons at people to avoid your own dismemberment. Your contribution? Throwing your hands in the air, telling people you don't have to contribute any more and then calling others scum purely because your own involvement is irrelevant and pointless. I was mad at RedFF for making accusations towards me, but at least he can rummage up some faulty "source" who we are blind to trust. You? You're just a trigger-happy son of a gun, quick to point a finger. You called your hand when you role-claimed some convenient role, so now you feel you are free and willing to do whatever and say whatever to deviate the town from winning. You don't care who gets voted so long as you stay alive and nobody starts glaring down your worth. Check your pockets, its emptiness is the equivalent of your contributions and your worth. As for me: scum, lurking and a role that is anti-town despite the fact that I can't do anything about it nor warn people? Reshuffle and check your cards again, this isn't Day 1, non-contributors are still plenty here (check the players list), doesn't mean they should be shifted on an anti-town alignment purely because they are playing like you, just with less words. This is my 5th or 6th post. So I'm going to stop now, see how it unfolds further on the game and ignore you Kurumi. When people were told to vote for you so you can shut the hell up, I should have obliged like I originally did. lulz. Spam more,maybe this will convince Town You're scum. | ||
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On June 07 2011 02:40 Cthsazsa wrote: Holy Jeeze kurumi. It's friggin obvious kurumi doesn't know what the hell is going on. Quit replying to his every post and spamming up the thread. The best thing that can happen is he gets hit tonight. I will. Can't You understand that TDL is mafia? Why would he respond such bad accusations ? | ||
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On June 07 2011 02:50 Jackal58 wrote: If Torte de Lini promises to flame Karumi with all of his posts everyday I'm willing to keep him around. This game needs some entertainment value. Isn't Mafia XL fun enough? | ||
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On June 07 2011 02:51 GMarshal wrote: Why did everyone shut up? We have three lynch candidates we need to discuss, Scumatlarge, Palmar and Torte. People voting for bum other than myself, give reasons. People who have yet to vote, for who are you voting? Those who have said that torte is scum (Rean, Kurumi and RedFF) how did you come to that conclusion? Torte thing is easy,he contributes nothing,responds to my bad attack and defending like a madman to waste his "posts",he mass roleblocks and never claimed it as a bad thing,he should ask to be vigi'd as he is serious threat to the town,but he isn't Town. He is Scum,that's why he doesn't want to help us. Bumatlarge lied from the beginning of Night 1. His SK claim is laughable. Also,use Your damn heads,if Batman retires after Joker dies,what does Joker has to prove to the world? Nothing. He is not Joker anymore. He is Mafia Godfather. His roleblock claim and not being able to shoot gives everything about him. as SK HE COULD'VE shot. As Godfather,he never could shoot,so whatever. | ||
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On June 07 2011 03:07 bumatlarge wrote: lol now Im a GF? deconduo told you what my role is, how can I be a GF? Is there some mechanic that you know kurumi that I don't? There's no Godfather in the roster,but I assumed You're mastermind of Your entire team. Are You mad on Torte because he will get vigi killed this night? Are You mad at Palmar for not bussing another scum,because he is pretty much confirmed Mafia now? | ||
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On June 07 2011 03:19 Mataza wrote: If anyone has a role which can shut up Kurumi, I want you to activate it. I don´t care if you have to kill 3 innocent virgins to activate that role, just do it plz. I volunteer if you need sacrifices for that Just to math a bit, we only need 1-2 KP to off Kurumi again. He redirected so he is automatically hit by GMarshal, so we only need to break his bulletproof. I´m not sure if GMarshals kp counts towards that as it is bound by his role so use 2 just for good measure. You're a dead man. Get lost. It will be quite funny when You'll come to a conclusion that I was right. And no,unless Gmarshal gets roleblocked again I am dead. Too bad Mafia has used him that way.. They couldn't spare that 3/4 kp.. | ||
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On June 07 2011 03:21 bumatlarge wrote: You realize I claimed DT in sleeper cell, people didn't believe me, i got lynched and popped blue and my scum list was sound. If anything that analogy destroys your whole arguement. Why don't you go analyize a game where I did fakeclaim (PYP3) and see how these things really work. I was more talking about Ace being sly raccoon. | ||
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I didn't want to play SK because I'd get lynched at some point for the sake of lynching me. I had no chance of survival whatsoever. | ||
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On June 07 2011 03:37 Karshe wrote: Urge to kill Panadain is rising... If You're day vig shot Bum so we can lynch Palmar safely,or the other way around. | ||
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1KP mafia 1KP Palmar 1KP Pandain 1KP Karshe 1KP Gmarshal Does this sound good enough? | ||
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On June 07 2011 04:25 Barundar wrote: EBWODP "Palmar" should read "Kurumi" It is highly likely that it went like that. The Pandain and Karshe case is uncertain,though makes sense. | ||
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On June 07 2011 23:27 Cthsazsa wrote: So much bullshit going around this game >_> Palmar no one here is going to trust you for jack shit. However, I think lynching bum will be the better idea. If Palmar is indeed an Assassin he will die tonight. If we lynch Palmar, bum is going to no doubt survive the night. So we will have to use tomorrow's lynch on him. I think we should lynch bum today. If Kurumi is telling the truth, Mafia didn't kill anyone last night because they were roleblocked, most likely from TDL. I still think we shouldn't kill him just yet. I think I will be switching my vote to bum. Mafia killed someone. Chaos13,Palmar had the gun. | ||
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On June 07 2011 23:31 Palmar wrote: Oh look. 3rd party and mafia coming together to lynch me! That's nice of you guys. Don't worry,Your Godfather Scumatlarge is going to die soon. TDL must be a crazy kid among Your kid,Bum told him not to get in trouble,but he did. Cmon,it is obvious. Bum lost his powers after Batman died. He never was SK. He was elected for "Godfather" in Your team. Bum told You to bus Varpulis,because he was scared that Varpulis might give a quick win for town like in PYPI. You were really "happy" about that "lucky" kill. Didn't last that long,did it? After a while,Your bro TDL slips totally. You're in checkmate for now,because we've got 3 confirmed scum to lynch/kill. The problem is,there's around 2-3 more. | ||
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On June 08 2011 00:29 Palmar wrote: Out of game: I will be travelling to Norway tomorrow, will spend most of the day in flight/train/airport. So if you intend to have me kill a specific target (My gun is allied with town), then I would ask that you give me that target before: 00:00 GMT tonight, that's three hours after the night begins. Shoot TDL. I dare You and don't fuck with us doing that "RB" thing and make excuse out of it, | ||
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On June 08 2011 02:03 Cthsazsa wrote: EBWOP: I will be keeping my vote on Bum. Karshe you need to plant a bomb on Palmar. NO,LYNCH PALMAR,BOMB BUM >< | ||
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On June 08 2011 02:21 DropBear wrote: It seems I can't quote either Why is shooting a mole an obvious scum play? It'd be very stupid scum play. A lynch vote for a scumbuddy is one thing, using a KP on him is something else entirely. If he's an assassin the Varpuli kill makes perfect sense. Vote staying on bum. PYPI. Gmarshal is our Mole. Helps town a lot. Makes us lose the game. | ||
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On June 08 2011 02:25 deconduo wrote: Mafia were told the name of the mole(s) but not role Doesn't stop them from having a member who picked role for Varpulis | ||
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On June 08 2011 02:30 DropBear wrote: Kurumi, what on earth did you just say? You sound like EQUES EQUES? I provided evidence why would Palmar kill Varpulis earlier. Go read it. In short: Bum is "Godfather" says Varpulis alive is more of a harm than dead(even as a mole) orders Palmar to kill Varpulis,SHAZZAM. Bum has no role. He lost it when Batman died,think. | ||
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On June 08 2011 02:41 Karshe wrote: Wait, we don't know Bum is out of ammo? Sigh... Bum is not SK,he never killed You morons. HE LOST HIS POWERS AFTER BATMAN DIED! | ||
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On June 08 2011 02:44 Karshe wrote: So you're just guessing the role description? If Joker dies, Batman has no more reason to fight crime. If Batman dies, Joker is free to rule the town and kill whoever he pleases. I am not convinced Joker lost his powers. Batman and the Joker exist only if both of them are alive. Watch Batman films. | ||
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Bumatlarge Palmar Torte de Lini RedFF Varpulis sinani206 There can be more based on Mataza's flip,but I think he is rather town. | ||
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On June 08 2011 03:13 redFF wrote: Hey lol i'm a mason i know shit because i can pm people derp. Maybe i don't want to out people to the thread. If you don't trust and see me as town yet then i dunno what to say. Yeah because You out people in Your Mafia quicktopic/irc chat | ||
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RedFF TDL Bumatlarge Palmar They're scum. Everything they say is just pile of wifom/lies/aliens | ||
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Look at the facts: I need 4KP or 3KP+roleblock to get killed. How many KP mafia has RIGHT NOW? 2KP. How many KP mafia will have after Palmar lynch? 1KP. 3Nights(or 4!) just to get rid of little Kurumi? Aren't they pushing too hard to kill me? <3 | ||
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I didn't get hit. I only could redirect GMarshal's hit. Liar liar pants on fire. | ||
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On June 08 2011 03:45 bumatlarge wrote: He only needs one bullet, he's lying about me not shooting him fyi. How did You evade roleblock bro btw? | ||
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On June 08 2011 03:59 bumatlarge wrote: torte de scummy didn't RB me, and I don't know if there is another source. Are you finally fessin' up to this? He doesn't pick a target. Scum. | ||
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On June 08 2011 04:36 Mig wrote: Town use some common sense here you have a last minute vote change away from a confirmed non town onto a guy who killed the mafia mole before they knew his role (assuming red isn't mafia). Lynch bum then just bomb palmar tonight. Then palmar can shoot tdl and if he flips red you still would know that redff is also mafia. But really at this point I think palmar is probably not mafia. No,lynch Palmar who supplies second KP to mafia and bomb TDL so we get rid of roleblocker. Then we lynch bum. | ||
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HE IS ALREADY DEAD,KILL TDL AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHHH T_T | ||
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On June 08 2011 05:12 Mig wrote: So everyone is just going to completely ignore the fact that palmar likely didn't know the moles role before killing him? When I said he wouldn't want to kill the mole everyone argued well Varps role was powerful obv they killed him. A bunch of people bandwagoned onto palmar last minute and are now choosing to ignore new information which goes against their previous reasoning. Who did claim picking role for Varpulis? I am sure person on Scum team picked that role that's why they killed him. | ||
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On June 08 2011 05:14 Mig wrote: Kurumi red already claimed to giving varp his role. Oh,then Red is scum | ||
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On June 08 2011 05:19 redFF wrote: ... sk shut up, please give some evidence or reasoning or find something scummy i have said. I am a Taxi Driver from Calcuta,leave me alone. I am also a Tarp Mage and everything I can imagine because noone confirmed my role. Want to know why? Bum created it~ | ||
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On June 08 2011 05:30 bumatlarge wrote: I already confirmed your role. You know the highest KP possible during the night and you negate a shot, but have to take it the next night. I've said this already. Hello active lurker. | ||
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On June 08 2011 05:33 bumatlarge wrote: You gonna call me out on it? Thats a new one. Of course Im lurking this is exciting. You were about to start contributing hardcore,why so guilty,Joker-with-no-powers? | ||
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or RedFF. Bum and TDL are not lynched today because we can lynch only one person,derp. | ||
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On June 08 2011 05:43 Palmar wrote: hey I'm back. If anyone wants to ask any questions. I apologize once again for my sloppy play. How would You like to get lynched? A shot in head should suffice? Of course You're be on Your knees. | ||
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On June 08 2011 05:45 Palmar wrote: You should probably try to act a little less hard-ass. Being an internet tough guy is neither funny nor cool. Cmon,Torte de Lini vanished and I have noone to prod into making useless posts. Hey Torte,how's it going? You know You're going to die,right? | ||
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On June 08 2011 05:53 hiro protagonist wrote: And if you flip green, I will have to learn from mine T_T And we lost two more towns! fuck me, the game is now Mafia vs 3rd party if palmar is not scum... I am the only 3rd party. *waves* | ||
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Three players,town aligned fucked with Town: Viscera,Prplhz,Palmar. Thanks a lot. | ||
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He is not scum,he would never get roleblocked and he would kill me sooner. | ||
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On June 08 2011 06:14 Rean wrote: Ugh. Let's get down to business. SCUM LIST:
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On June 08 2011 13:58 bumatlarge wrote: lol if this game is balanced then I'll eat a maggot Let's eat maggots together lol. Also,this is so fun. Both me and Bum are still alive. | ||
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On June 09 2011 00:13 redFF wrote: C-C-C-C-C-C-C-CONFIRM Stop it,I am killing You tonight. | ||
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On June 09 2011 01:18 bumatlarge wrote: Checking in to make sure town is still useless. Still useless? I can confirm that! Btw,is sinani reviving Wiggles tonight? | ||
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On June 09 2011 01:27 bumatlarge wrote: That would be hilarious. Perhaps I could shoot sinani and find out? You can't shoot You silly gf and You won't kill a scum to get a scum,better bait someone else. | ||
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On June 09 2011 05:12 Karshe wrote: *crickets* No dramatic "if I die tonight..." posts? Town has lost this game already @_@ | ||
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On June 09 2011 05:31 stefftastiq wrote: rest of town is probably dead by night end? Hmm,the could end this night,right. | ||
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On June 09 2011 06:01 Palmar wrote: What up town? ##Fistpound Palmar That's what's up bro! | ||
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On June 09 2011 06:01 Mig wrote: wtf sinani are you serious Yes,now town has another KP,fuck yeah~ Also no Mafia hits tonight,guess TDL is town! | ||
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On June 09 2011 06:02 Eternalmisfit wrote: ##Fistpound Palmar Also, Rean is definitely not scum. He was hit and was protected last night. Lets squash that Mafia with puny 1KP! | ||
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On June 09 2011 06:03 deconduo wrote: I knew I forgot something. A bomb has been placed on bumatlarge, it will explode in 48 hours. Thanks,so we get TDL lynched? | ||
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Karshe Palmar(this is certain though) redFF EM I needed to trick GM in thinking I am shooting redFF though | ||
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On June 09 2011 06:07 redFF wrote: Everyone MUST fistpound Palmar. Also Kurumi I don't think I will be listening to you but why is EM confirmed town? Just because You and him argue all the time,lol. Just mason him or something and talk on some private note,idk. | ||
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On June 09 2011 06:09 Karshe wrote: Why is Kurumi still alive? I thought he was out of lives? I must remember his role wrong and I don't remember what page the description is on... Because I am serial killer and GM only damaged one of my two vests. U mad? | ||
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On June 09 2011 06:11 Mig wrote: If Em did protect Rean then Rean should know it also right? If so we should have a very small amount if non confirmed people left. Rean if you are a dt should just claim and give us all the info because if you were targeted last night mafia already suspects what you are. I am fine with tdl lynch especially if there is a dt to back it. Rean is medium,he gets random action revealed to him. | ||
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On June 09 2011 06:12 Eternalmisfit wrote: Steff claimed that role as far as I remember. Oh,then I've mistaken people,sorry | ||
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On June 09 2011 06:25 Torte de Lini wrote: Of course you can, you've been advocating its credibility all game with a weak attempt to hide it. I don't understand how Rean can know I'm mafia. Also, why Palmar? He's useless since you guys got what... 2 potential leads? KP to shoot Your ugly scum asses during the night and sing the Trolololo song along with me because You need 2+KP to kill us. | ||
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Eternalmisfit - probably townie deskscaress - dead,townie Barundar - probably townie Palmar - townie hiro protagonist - ? probably scum? Varpulis - Mole ( I guess he'd show up as town?) Kurumi - SK | ||
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bumatlarge - scum Eternalmisfit - probably town Kurumi - SK Jackal58 - probably town Karshe - town GMarshal - ? ? Amber[LighT] - probably town,was on the wrong side of lynches though Cthsazsa - probably town Rean - town hiro protagonist - ? ? the guy who is on the both votes checked. | ||
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On June 09 2011 06:38 redFF wrote: I've been working on the lists during the night anyway. Once we see the flips everything will be a lot clearer, also once i found out if EternalMisfit's claim is real. That means Barundar or Hiro are Mafia. Killing Hiro would help reveal scum on both lists so I would suggest that. Barundar also was a semi-lurker and contributed here and here,while hiro was a 100% lurker. | ||
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On June 09 2011 06:42 Eternalmisfit wrote: @GM Who did you try to kill last night? Me,because I redirected his hit last night and he was bond to auto-use his sacrifice on me again. | ||
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On June 09 2011 06:47 Eternalmisfit wrote: I obviously wont take your information of face value but despite that I was ask since you claimed hitting sinani, which of Sandroba and kitaman claims were fake? None,Mafia hit Kitaman so I got my bullet back,yay! | ||
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On June 10 2011 00:23 hiro protagonist wrote: Haha, oh well, your hitting green tonight. Palmar always seams to be the death of me If you want to flip, why not hit Barundar? Why am I the only one thats under suspicion? Your death will affect two lists. | ||
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On June 10 2011 04:24 Palmar wrote: if you were pro-town, you'd just tell us? he confirmed scum yo | ||
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On June 10 2011 05:05 Torte de Lini wrote: Since I'm going to die, I don't feel the need to contribute. Additionally you guys are incapable of reading Meapak's explanation. Even if I wanted to help, you don't deserve it, which makes me happy that when killing me, it tells you very little about anything. blah blah You're noob scum | ||
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On June 10 2011 06:20 deconduo wrote: Smiley Curse is upon us. | ||
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Cake and cookies will suffice too. | ||
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On June 11 2011 23:35 redFF wrote: NO. WE DO NOT LYNCH JACKAL. WE ALWAYS LYNCH THE CONFIRMED SCUM. Lynch Barundar, GM sacrifice Kurumi, Palmar shoot Jackal, check on cthsazsa, we have sks and scum dead. redff I am already dead | ||
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Thanks guys,though town sucked this game. I think there was no single strong analysis. | ||
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On June 19 2011 06:07 Barundar wrote: Kurumi I cant believe you single handedly won the game for town, and you didnt even intent it lol. When I saw that day post I was just like... no way... And Palmar don't quit, you where town MVP... (not that it say a lot in this game ) The sinani206 shootage? I hoped he was scum and he'd revive Wiggles,LOL. | ||
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I AM CREDIT TO TEAM! | ||
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On June 19 2011 06:50 bumatlarge wrote: I'm just pissed that kurumi as a third party went and outed himself to try to get me lynched. I can understand being upset at your SK role, but you have to try to win. Mafia had enough going against them without having a rogue SK claiming to fuck them over. I wasn't really happy about that. At all. Sorry From the very start I did not even think I could win with SK. Mostly because I'd get lynched for sake of lynching (I still fear that ). Then I had a stupid gut of me wanting to lynch You. | ||
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