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I think Night 0 start is kind of crazy. Some people are gonna be all sad face in the morning. I haven't got a decent feel for anyone yet. I'll keep you posted. Some people have been posting a lot though. And I'm laughing a little at my name being on that zodiac list. Oh yea!! I'm up there with the likes of Ver, BC and RoL. Srsly, Ver and RoL haven't went to your house to punch you for that comment BC? =D | ||
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On June 15 2011 06:51 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: This is wrong. You make way too many assumptions here, first of all, who cares if the mafia is found out? You act as if mafia are absolutely self serving, which they aren't. They are part of a team. If I was mafia and I played an intricate part in my teams victory, just because I die doesn't remove from what I have accomplished, and I still get the win. So yes, mafia might eventually get found out in a circle, but by then they will have gotten enough info to justify their deaths. And a godfather can easily fake a medic, vigilante, and veteran role so just excluding vet's from your circle doesn't do shit. A medic/vigilante/veteran role cannot guarantee confirm a player in one night, only a DT check can. If you spend 3 night cycles circle jerking yourself around with DT checks then mafia can just float in the inactives. As stated earlier, DT's should be checking inactives, active players WILL be outed by superior behavior analysis by good players. The circle plan sucked. My plan was better because it involved me doing something I am good at, and that others know I am good at, and doesn't involve having our blues suck each other off for 3 night cycles while trying to coordinate their collective stupidity. While I will gladly admit your amazing mafia hunting skills....Do you think by the end of night 0 you can find all the mafia by having mafia PM you. I'd be glad to mason you, but I feel it'd be a waste of time when I see your name pop up dead tomorrow.....Should I mason with BC instead? I like BC. BC's nice. Lol. | ||
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On June 15 2011 12:38 aidnai wrote: That WAS my birthday wish ilj! For other new-er blues in this game, i'm gonna bring this up since Chaos13 is dead already anyway: look at chaos13's posts. There's like 4-5 of them from N0, and all but maybe one are giving blues advice, asking for blue advice, or otherwise discussing blue roles. IMO, he was a pretty obvious snipe. Moral of the story: don't spend a lot of time talking about blues and nothing else. We can talk about this more post-game. Scamp, the game GGQ is talking about is XXXVII. Ver = Ser Aspi. Although he and jackal did use PMs well, especially when it came to the endgame, the town kinda got lucky with a huge town circle that cleared LSB who otherwise would have been a great and easy mislynch for scum to push. So... yeah, like almost every game, it wasn't perfect play (or what we imagine is perfect) that won that game for town. Back to this game: I can only assume that Pondo was an attempted blue snipe. Not sure about kita. I find it odd that scum went for blue snipes over forum vets n0. I take this to mean that BC's zodiac was successful in deterring hits... Well, that's only good for us imo. On June 15 2011 13:26 aidnai wrote: rofl, sorry for spam/derail guys, but xsixVer just beat col.Catz on taldarim, cross positions, using tank/marine with epic multipronged attacks and NUKES lol... poor catz plays without sound so he can listen to music, got nailed by the nukes like 4 times omg... On June 15 2011 13:05 aidnai wrote: at this moment, Ver is playing catz on catz' stream On June 15 2011 14:32 aidnai wrote: since nobody is stepping up and posting anything... I guess I'll go ahead and start pressure voting. ##Vote: Grassgiraffe Your friend said you wouldn't disappoint. Prove him wrong, make my day. ##Vote Aidnai You post too much useless, obvious, info. Kita is obvious kill....He's pretty bangin. Stop bragging about how you sniped a blue. | ||
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On June 15 2011 17:17 Scamp wrote: Well, my vote will be on aidnai until he can shake off the stench of spam and blue-snipe bragging. LMAO...I hadn't even read the thread yet, and felt that way exactly too. <3 u Scamp. Sinani is easily next lynch choice. GOGOGOGOOGo | ||
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On June 16 2011 03:41 sinani206 wrote: Hey, guess what? You're on the Zodiac List. Let's see some better analysis out of you. This is bandwagon shit which might have been overlooked had you not been on the list, but since you are, I feel the need to pressure you a little. You posted obvious info here while accusing him of posting obvious info. Step up your game. Did you not read mine, BC's, and RoL's banter about that? Lol. You expect better from me? I'm getting a feel. I'm completely down to vote ILJ based on YM, and I'm not a fuckin sheep though. I don't like how Aidnai posted. I don't like how he's been posting. I don't like how over half of your posts were "defending" ILJ, and then you APOLOGIZED to YM....I wasn't bandwagoning shit, I just have a knack for posting exactly what Scamp posts...I think this is actually the third time it's happened. | ||
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On June 16 2011 03:41 sinani206 wrote: Hey, guess what? You're on the Zodiac List. Let's see some better analysis out of you. This is bandwagon shit which might have been overlooked had you not been on the list, but since you are, I feel the need to pressure you a little. You posted obvious info here while accusing him of posting obvious info. Step up your game. And one moooooooooooooore thing. Why does voting Aidnai make me suspicious and not Scamp? Because Scamp's on that same list....voted for the same reason I did......I just did it second....yet you call me out for that, and not him. By your logic you should have called him out too. So I will do that now. Scamp...You need to "step up your game," because "You're on the Zodiac List....I feel the need to pressure you a little," for posting "obvious infohere while accusing him of posting obvious info."... You didn't bandwagon though...but I didn't want to overlook you, because you were on that list. | ||
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On June 16 2011 04:47 sinani206 wrote: Yeah I was actually going through the list and you were first. I would've done him next. Whatever. Mason me and I'll believe you. | ||
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The rest of the town does need to post. RoL needs to suddenly appear. Sinani...You ever gonna mason me...? | ||
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On June 16 2011 13:20 Mr. Wiggles wrote: For reference, people who haven't posted/contributed since Day 1 post: Impervious Node hiro protagonist GGQ grassgiraffe (Likely Modkill, no posts) mig LandenC (1 post in game) Jacinto (1 post in game) Lazorbear (1 post in game) RebirthofLegend This list actually makes me a little sad, because more than half of these people have played before, or are veterans, but we still have terrible activity. Anyway, I'm going to bed. I think a nice lil prod pm should be sent out....but theres still plenty more time. I've been around, but not much to comment on. We need more from you guys. I want to know how each of you feel about Ilovejohn, and sinani....and if you suspect anyone. Night, night | ||
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On June 16 2011 12:52 ilovejonn wrote: Yeah, I feel scum are definitely content with the environment right now, and obviously liking the discussion at hand. We'd be better off voting for lurkers to force them to talk as I feel there are plenty of scum hiding right now. Night 0 start + half way through Day 1 and A LOT of people have bare minimum posts, heck some people haven't even started posting since the Day post. This really irks me. However, they WILL have to come up with a reason to vote anyways or risk being modkilled. I'm expecting by the end of the Day half ass bandwagons and reasons for voting will be formed and we can further examine those people. Note: I'll be away from 11 am - 6 pm for most days coming. Good. Then You're a fine lynch candidate. I'm voting you. You have sucessfully completed 9 out of 10 scummy things. The tenth is to die red. | ||
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On June 17 2011 05:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Your new so maybe you don't understand some things. Day 1 is near impossible to scumhunt unless people realllly fuck up somewhere along the line. It's even harder when players like yourself opt to sitback and not post until pressured. You were lurking, you got called out, and suddenly the person who does it is red. You mention I am red because of the zodiac list? all the names of players on that list are people who will prove their alignment via play in thread, analysis done on them, etc... Dt checks are far more useful being directed at people (much like yourself) who are lurking hard and not contributing. If someone is unreadable because they skirt by sheeping the entire game a dt check can clear them or damn them very quickly. A gf is much more likely to be hiding in a list of veteran players than it is amongst lurkers as well. Making myself accountable for my actions and adding scruitiny to myself is not pro mafia, its pro town. You then mention most of my posts are on bad plans? pushing to kill lurkers? Wow, since when is trying to organize people from doing bad moves an anti town play? Trying to organize people and get them to realize bandwagons they are on are most likely wrong is not mafia play. Take a look at the major 3 bandwagons. All 3 started fairly early and had next to no opposition except from the players involved. No one was defending them? at all? Instead there was next to no discussion, people sheep'd onto some of those lists not even justifying themselves. That screams mafia are content to sit back and let the shit happen. Use your head people. Sinani was defending ILJ....actually...which is why I said lynching sinani would be a good idea....But ILJ said he would be afk for much of the weak, which means he should be the one to die. Stop pushing it away from him. | ||
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On June 17 2011 06:28 hiro protagonist wrote: yeah, thing is Mig, BC is calling out those lurkers to post. It worked too. So step it up guys if you want to play. As for the lynch targets, sinani, and ILJ still look suspicious to me. ILJ more so, because his slip into lurker mode. I want to see him scum hunt, cus right now the only contribution I see from him is defending himself. However, I wont vote for him because he is under the gun, We have ample opportunity to see if he slips up, or scum tells. One person that is really flying under the radar is Impervious. So far all his post have had little substance, and smell sightly of scum. As for the lurkers, One stands out and thats grassgiraffe. The others have yet to post much but grass last post SCREAMS out "I made my vote, and I'm out". I know, because that sounds exactly like some of the lurkers in SNMMII. They would simply come in once or twice during the day and say,"yep, I agree with so and so, vote: name here". I am 90% sure he is town, and 100% sure we dont need him. come prove me wrong grass. ##Vote: grassgiraffe We vote for who we feel is scummier. Not who we don't need more. Vote for ILJ please. He's going to be afk anyway, he went to lurker mode after other "suspects" appeared. He was defended early on by sinani, whom many have considered suspicious too. Can we just move on to killing him now? On June 17 2011 04:57 Kenpachi wrote: I can understand how mad you are because most vets tend to have the same response atleast once (or more!) I say BC is mafia because I dont really see the usefulness in his posts. He made a lot of lists and pointed out a bunch of inactives (including you) but really, thats it. I guess its brash to accuse him of being mafia when i think there is nothing to talk about but still. Can we please get one more post Mr. RoL? On June 17 2011 06:13 Jacinto wrote: Allright, I agree with voting the lurkers. BC's argument makes sense. We have to make them start posting, or kill them. If we don't and they happen to be mafia, we're gonna be in trouble later on. I change my vote to GG because of his extreme inactiveness, him breaking the scilence with a very wierd post, where he just dashes in, jumps on the BW without explanation, dashes out. + Show Spoiler + On June 16 2011 19:44 grassgiraffe wrote: Hey i'm no Modkill but after reading this whole thread i'm going to take the plunge and vote for sinani206. and However, I still FoS ILJ. ##Vote grassgiraffe ...Wrong vote. I want ILJ voted for. Not GrassGiraffe. Come the F' on guys. | ||
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On June 17 2011 06:30 VisceraEyes wrote: ##Unvote sinani206 ##Vote: grassgiraffe I admit that I sheepishly voted sinani based on weak logic and the desperate hope that he'd actually flip red. I agree that inactivity is more effectively dealt with now rather than later, and I hope the remaining lurkers after today will see GG as an example. HA...GG. GG, GG. They will NOT SEE HIM as an example. Please, change your vote to ILJ. Stop being a SHEEP. | ||
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On June 17 2011 06:35 hiro protagonist wrote: @Wiggles: For the reasons I stated. If Grass comes in and says something, hell anything, that would be of an contribution, I will take my vote off him. I will urge others to do the same. If I had to vote for someone else, I would vote ILJ or Impervious. Change your vote now, as opposed to later, when inactives come rolling in to bandwagon the person with the most votes to "feel" cool. | ||
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BC, have you not done that as mafia? Do you not find that suspicious? How many of us have done that to add credit to our "inactivity" despite the fact that we were very active within our mafia circle. Why switch from one inactive, to another? How about you answer that? Still on the radar is a relative term. Lots of mafia get away that way, and switching to a random inactive at the request of a possible God Father candidate? Good Job guys. | ||
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On June 17 2011 07:29 sandroba wrote: Okay people I ask you to turn your attention to this post: Serious scum slip right here. First of all, your reasoning for not voting jonn, which you are suspicious of, is totally bullshit. Second, how the fuck can you be 90% sure giraffe is town from the grand total of 1 post (which is a terrible post) he has made so far? Seems to me you have more information than I do. Even then, you are 90% sure he's town, you are suspicious of jonn and you quickly jump on giraffe bandwagon??? Hello contradiction! Vote for this mafia right now, day1 doesn't get any better than this. Didn't I comment on that? -___-....He's easily a good target for dt check, or hatter bomb. Or vig hit....Just sayin. | ||
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On June 17 2011 10:14 aidnai wrote: OpZ, switching to shraft seems dumb. if you and jonn switch to hiro, you'll have a real counterwagon going, personally I'd love to see the lynch between jonn/hiro, instead of grass giraffe. Grassgiraffe was always the copout lynch, and should have been abandoned long ago. ILJ, you want to find scum, that's the list you should be looking at. BloodyC0bbler, LandenC, Jacinto, VisceraEyes, hiro protagonist Lurkers, including hiro, plus viscera, who tried to make sandroba look scummy for pushing hiro. You five on the GG list, switch to hiro or provide a reason why you don't think he's scum. There's absolutely no evidence for/against GG right now, it's an easy copout lynch and a way for you to skate by today without taking a stance on anyone. I'm staying on ILJ because I don't care if it's him or hiro that gets lynched today. BTW, i'm pleased with the collective non-response to RoL's bullshit. Please switch to hiro then Aidnai. I switched. I'll explain if questioned, but currently lack the time to be convincing. | ||
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On June 17 2011 10:52 Kenpachi wrote: No. I believe those who are spread over are the mafia. (Im looking at you GGQ, Opz, RoL) My bad, Wigs, I meant Kantbeusefulchi | ||
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On June 17 2011 11:09 Kenpachi wrote: it was me OpZ. you were one of them solo vote on a random person I was with ILJ on shraft...which was pretty dumb of me, no lie.... | ||
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*Yawn* he will notify me, but by that time you'll be dead. so just notify him, and start pming. I'm sure he'll get around to notifying me some time today....Lol. As long as you PM him, you should be fine. | ||
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On June 17 2011 13:34 sinani206 wrote: Just making sure all blues see this tonight Ignore BC's post, blues. Ignore it well. On June 17 2011 20:35 Mataza wrote: RoL, that´s pretty fucking weak sauce. "I could post a lot and help town, I just don´t want to. Maybe I will start to post more if you kill Kenpachi" Are you shitting us? Why the F' sign up to a game and then go ahead with a plan that gives you the chance of being Superman in PM land and then say "The game is boring I´m watching TV instead". Apart from any alignment, what kind of attitude is that? RoL's playing in a game with me. As long as he hasn't realized I've fucked two of his games up, by killing him, or becoming him, and I'm not being tunneled by him, I'm happy.....Everyone talks about RoL, but on a cereal note, what all hath the bloodycobbler done? | ||
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On June 19 2011 10:21 Mataza wrote: Huh, odd. At the start I assumed your strategy was for you to draw a hit since you are veteran or already have a Doctor at hand to protect you. But isn´t this behavior rather selfish? Lie to get Doctor protection *and* be avoided by mafia hits. On the other hand there is LAL for a reason. If you lie too often, people stop believing you, even if you tell the truth. For you 2 questions:
Bonus question: Youngminii already told us he is masoned to RoL. If you really have only 3 masons, why did you find the time to post BS in the thread, but not PM anything serious with one of your 3 PM buddies? ....How would you know if he didn't PM anything serious to one of his PM buddies if you don't mind me asking? You get my vote for that... No ones questioned my disappearance? | ||
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On June 20 2011 12:40 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Idea for night actions Currently here is what I would like to do. I want ALL vigilantes to target hiro tonight. Vigilante hits get refunded if they are stacked with mafia or anything else, so we won't be wasting hits. I will also carefully think through how I would like to try to organize the remaining DT/Hatters and on what subjects to have them act. All ideas are welcome for this. my initial thoughts are Mataza, DeMorcerf, and VisceraEyes Shraft? He had a decently helpful post, but his thoughts on this vote, and last vote. I dunno... | ||
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On June 20 2011 12:45 ~OpZ~ wrote: Shraft? He had a decently helpful post, but his thoughts on this vote, and last vote. I dunno... Well, decently helpful, all he really did was point out Ace's vigi handbook.... | ||
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On June 21 2011 11:14 Mataza wrote: Hiro suicided Node Sandroba died. Mafia KP was cut by one for mismodkilling aidnai yesterday. So you let it leak you were blue to RoL, and they popped Sandroba and you? Did anyone else know about this plan? ANYONE. BC, for instance? ...Time to look at vote lists. | ||
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On June 21 2011 11:30 Mataza wrote: Alright, no I didn´t send someone else. Nobody else claimed hit so far, that´s all I have in my favor. I claimed veteran to my other contact earlier, just without the Sandroba telling RoL part, if that helps. Well your other contact is probably town. Mafia would not of hit you if they knew you were veteran. What did sandroba tell RoL you were? Who came up with the idea to let it slip you were blue to RoL? Was RoL and Sandroba + other contact that is 99% green the only people that knew you were blue, and knew about this plan to trap RoL? | ||
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Day 1 Votes for ilovejonn (7): Mataza, syllogism, Shraft, DeMorcerf, aidnai, youngminii, hiro protagonist, Votes for sinani206 (3): Mig, FudgeMunkey, grassgiraffe Votes for Kenpachi (2): RebirthOfLeGenD, sinani206 Votes for Impervious (1): GGQ Votes for grassgiraffe (5): BloodyC0bbler, LandenC, Jacinto, Node, Mr. Wiggles Votes for hiro protagonist (6): sandroba, Varpulis, VisceraEyes, Kenpachi, ilovejonn, ~OpZ~, Votes for syllogism (1): Scamp Votes for Mr. Wiggles (1): Impervious Day 2 Votes for RebirthOfLeGenD (2): FudgeMunkey, Node, Votes for syllogism (10): RebirthOfLeGenD, GGQ, Jacinto, Mr. Wiggles, Kenpachi, Shraft, hiro protagonist, LandenC, ~OpZ~, BloodyC0bbler Votes for hiro protagonist (7): sandroba, Varpulis, Mataza, youngminii, VisceraEyes, DeMorcerf, syllogism Votes for Node (1): sinani206 I just can't get my eyes off youngmini and shraft. Maybe Demorcerf. I gotta go through posts, but you aint been as vocal since the ILJ instance YM... | ||
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On June 21 2011 11:45 Mataza wrote: To explain in full: I have another contact who knew I am blue night 0 and who I told I am actually Vet day 1. This person (hopefully) knows I contacted Sandroba. I am pretty sure I informed him. I proceeded to randomly ask Sandroba a couple of meaningfull questions, which he thought was suspicious, so he told RoL. After I explained to him in a way that made sense, he realised it was probably a mistake to tell RoL right away. We proceeded to call it a plan from then on. PM's....you can post them good sir. | ||
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On June 22 2011 07:58 VisceraEyes wrote: I find it interesting how you're distorting the timeline around OpZ. 1st, OpZ pushes aidnai, based on spam. 2nd, OpZ claims indifference to lynching either aidnai, Sinani and ILJ 3rd, OpZ tunnels ILJ hard 4th, OpZ scum-switches to GG, an inactive lynch target that was already on the docket. GTFO scum. Did not switch to grass giraffe....fyi...only to save ILJ. | ||
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On June 22 2011 00:50 youngminii wrote: stop being silly lynching opz or rol is nothing more than a crapshoot get a lurker, the lurkers at this stage are just scummy as all hell landenc (and probably demorcerf) would have been modkilled for inactivity if they weren't mafia, the fact that they are keeps them coming back to make one single post obvious lynches Don't defend me and RoL in the same post...seriously...I've even pointed out you disappearing after the ILJ shit? And gtfo viscera... On June 22 2011 01:22 VisceraEyes wrote: Man, YM, you're ABSOLUTELY RIGHT about lurkers...if I wasn't so convinced of RoL and OpZ, I'd be all about your agenda - especially since in this game, preference was given to people with proven inactivity. But I hardly think that OpZ and RoL are crapshoots...did you even read my analysis? Did you not hear Mataza? Obviously RoL is going to say it's bullshit. He's just been as good as outed as red. Would YOU own up to it if it was you? RoL is also messing up the details in defending me. I'm interested in seeing what he is. If he is mafia, it'll make me look bad, but I can handle that. | ||
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On June 23 2011 03:02 VisceraEyes wrote: Okay, I've made my final decision. ##Vote: RebirthOfLeGenD While I hate that there's no proof of Sandroba telling RoL in no uncertain terms that Mataza is blue. While I'm suspicious of Mataza's reaction to BC requiring proof. There's something I can't get past. RoL claimed Vigilante. First of all, the outside view of Vigilantes is the exact same as scum. They kill someone at night. Second, the only time I've EVER seen someone claim vig BEFORE someone is shot and killed....is when it's scum trying to save their life. What good does claiming do if it's true? Mafia will likely role-block him, so his plan of killing FudgeMunkey is out. All it serves to do is to save himself. Furthermore, I agree with Mataza's assessment that if the Mafia wanted RoL dead, they would have killed him n2 instead of FAKING some kind of super-play, and do so knowing there's no proof. As far as RoL's behavior, d2 he did literally just WAIT until a few hours before the deadline, then start throwing around insults until enough votes were off him. He's been actively lurking since the very beginning. I'm sure he and BC will tell you that it's because there's no point in playing until d3...but in doing so, town has literally been put in a position where we have to either trust in Mataza's plan, or believe someone as scummy as RoL to survive. If we don't hit scum today, we're dead. And I believe RoL is scum. I believe he's been actively lurking, sniping blues (they've had EXCEPTIONAL aim), and watching 24 the whole game. I conclude this post with something everyone should factor in. I'm masoned with Mataza. He claimed Veteran to me d1. This means that if he's scum, he fake claimed me d1, put on a show of crumbing DT (he's not very good at it, obviously), and ultimately waited until d3 to put his fake plan. It's too much of a stretch for me. Vote RoL. I asked for proof before anyone else btw viscera...Just gonna point that out there, home boi. If there is another vig in the town, I would please beg you to publically role claim, as you posting would make this a world of ease simpler in finding out whether or not lynching RoL is a good idea. Srsly, you're a regular townie after you use your kill, and you will have a target after this lynch that is probably 90 to 95% sure mafia. So plz claim. | ||
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On June 23 2011 04:48 Shraft wrote: Yes, claiming vig won't really help much at all. Call me gullible or stupid, but I'm starting to lean more and more toward not lynching RoL. I have had this feeling all game long that he was blue or green. Counter claiming would give us plenty of information. so far we know there are 30 players, 6 scum, 2 dt's, 1 med, 1 veteran, 1 hatter. That's just all we know, but thats 6 scum, 5 blues, and 1 miller. Counter claiming vig, will open the vig up for a better hit, discredit RoL, and just make this less of a head ache. | ||
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On June 23 2011 05:10 VisceraEyes wrote: I was under the impression that alignments are randomly generated. Is that not the case? ...Too possible vigs, Plz Publically role claim. I explain why on page 52. And to answer your question, the host has the final say in alignment. They will often not stack two very bangin players on the mafia without considerably good players as town. Give a fair chance to both sides. | ||
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On June 21 2011 12:57 youngminii wrote: I like the lurker attack. Out of the lurkers, landenc seems the most scummy to me. Fudgemunkey seems like a townie that became bored towards the later stages. Vote going to landenc for now. YoungMinni and Fudgemonkey have been very buddy buddy actually....Fudge agrees with YM on everything, and YM protects Fudgemonkey? On June 22 2011 01:55 youngminii wrote: yeah okay there's quite a decent chance that they're all red the only reason i was hesitant on lynching rol was because he's masoned to so many people but yeah all the evidence points against him, if he ends up non-red though i will not be happy Went from defending, to a decent chance....Okay.... On June 22 2011 04:03 youngminii wrote: You gave us an alternative lynch yesterday. Fool us once, shame on you, fool us twice, shame on us. You've had 3 days to 'dominate' and use your PM network. It seems as if your recurring theme this game is "fuck you I'll dominate this game later". Anyway if you don't end up scum then mataza will obviously have some explaining to do. ...And now your getting more certain....Even though nothing really happened... On June 22 2011 09:25 youngminii wrote: wiggles i'm curious as to why you put so much effort into defending RoL then you make one line saying 'i agree with this guy' especially when: surely you'd have to have thought i was pretty townie if you wanted a medic to use their save on me i don't want this to be ignored, answer it when you're here Shit changes over time YM....Shit changes. Anyway...I was just going through your post history, and shit was bugging me. But after rereading Fudge's and your posts...I'm noticing a two way connection. Do you care to...idk...explain how RoL's assumptions of you two is incorrect? You do realize if RoL doesn't pop red, you're dead tomorrow YM? | ||
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On June 23 2011 05:16 VisceraEyes wrote: Balance cannot be used as far as I can see. Anyone got anything else? Time is ticking. Further evidence backing up RoL's case against youngminii and fudgemonkey. Personally I would rather we just move all the votes to fudgemonkey, allow RoL to Vig YM at night (given he is actually a vig), and go from there. That seriously seems like the best course of action, because if YM isn't red, then it's down to BC and RoL. AND WHERE THE FUCK IS KANTBEUSEFULCHI?! | ||
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On June 23 2011 05:57 Mataza wrote: You have a point, but as was said already, balance is a weak argument for someone to be scum or town. The way this game presents itself to me I´m inclined to heavily question everyone on the zodiac list. I wrote down the initial reactions of the players after I claimed veteran and my plan. And the one question I ask is, why does BC fight against my plan in order to save RoL? He tried really hard to debunk my plan and discredit my conclusion. He then came to the conclusion that my plan is extremely convoluted and the easy explanation is that I am scum doing a really laughable play. And that same person is the one who found Node in a sea of inactives that is half the players. By virtue of being on the zodiac list and not being helpful, unlike the other inactives who weren´t helping. Also the vets on this list had no comments for this at all. Only Youngminii commented on this, and he is the lynch proposed by RoL. Analysing votes was never helpful in a game without heavily debated lynchs or votelist checks. If these people are supposed to save the town with their experience, I damn well want to see at least something. "Newbie attacks RoL and BC, let´s analyse the day 1 and day 2 votes and distance ourself from RoL." This is NOT what I was expecting. I wanted a god damn updated Vote list with confirmed players on it. Wtf is wrong with that. I'm not as eloquent as BC and RoL. I'm not as disciplined. I was hoping to see a pattern. I'd rather lynch Fudgemonkey then lynch YM or RoL at this point, but I'm almost sure 1 of them two is mafia, and I'm damned close to sure fudgemonkey is. It's like he's been with YM since the beginning...oh wait...He probably has. Fudgemonkey IS LIKELY scum, and WILL give us more information than RoL. -_-...I'm cereal guys, so so so cereal. | ||
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On June 23 2011 06:22 Mataza wrote: If you count balance as evidence, I have my special evidence right here: Look, it´s almost the entire zodiac list. I don´t believe in coincidences. I don´t believe the results of last night just looked like my plan worked, but actually didn´t. I don´t believe that Bloodyc0bbler actually thinks it is the best explanation that I am scum with a very questionable plan. I don´t believe that everyone on the zodiac list has had very few comments for this and in unison think that youngminii is scum, when RoL should be under heavy suspicion again. I don´t believe that RoL is a vigilante. Fact is there has been no scum on the lynch block yet. Aside from RoL, all major suspects flipped innocent. RoL is the only person to get away alive from being nearly lynched. I don´t think this is a coincidence either. I'm nowhere near saying RoL isn't likely scum! I'm just not willing to lynch him. You're missing that nail in the coffin. Remember me asking you to post your pms and logs? That's why. That's what I was looking for. I needed to see what was said to make RoL think you were blue. Instead I come up with a better lynch candidate, and no one will change to him. I want to lynch Fudgemonkey because of his buddy buddy ties to YM and his lack of activity, shoddy defence, and RoL's post. Even if he is outed as mafia, RoL is not clear unless YM pops red during the night phase by RoL's vig hit, that may/may not happen, but would confirm him if it did. @_@....SERIOUSLY, WTF LOOK AT THAT AND TELL ME WHATS BAD ABOUT THAT? | ||
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On June 23 2011 06:42 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: I have played enough games to know it would look like a desperate mafia ploy, but it's true and I figure it's more important that you know I am a vigilante before you go murdering away your hopes of winning this game. According to you, you can kill YM during the night phase. So it doesn't matter, if you're certain about both. I agree with it on YM. I believe I've said that before. In the thread or in a pm to you, i can't recall. | ||
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On June 23 2011 07:29 VisceraEyes wrote: And a slight correction: The vets aren't voting for you because they think Mataza is wrong...not because they think you're town. There's a big difference. That's only really me who feels that way. -_-...Mataza...Whoever is pushing me as scum to you is ridiculous..... | ||
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6- RoL @_@...RoL....these people who came outta no where...shraft for instance? Shraft, How do you feel about YoungMinii? Why is he suspicious to you? Why do you Doubt Mataza being correct about RoL being scum? | ||
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On June 23 2011 10:21 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Hmmm? Do you mean mafia's going to shoot you? Or you're going to suicide into someone? You're keeping the bomb on BC, or are you telling us because you're moving it? Also, what made you want to claim, and aren't you afraid of RB? Nope. Don't care anymore...Just don't care. Plain and simple. Lmao. No one's claimed Role Block yet, so if the RB'er out there, the mafia ain't been using him. But hey, that doesn't mean he aint right? Sup Wiggles! Party at your house tonight? | ||
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On June 23 2011 10:44 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: A roleblock is only known to blues who get roleblocked and have active actions, so theoretically the reds could have just failed to ever role block a blue. They shoulda role blocked Hiro then...lmao...or mataza if you knew he was blue and you are mafia as they say... Didn't realize flamewheel changed RB'er for this game... | ||
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On June 23 2011 11:00 VisceraEyes wrote: They didn't know he was vet, right? Right? That wasn't a scum-slip, right? Right? lmao...I was about to comment on that actually...Everyones giving me a head ache this game tbh.... | ||
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On June 26 2011 12:09 FudgeMunkey wrote: HA HA HA!!! Varpulis and all you cows!!! Im not mafia! I told u!!! Oh and yeah... GG mafia! If you were being useful, they would of known you weren't mafia. | ||
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On June 26 2011 19:18 Scamp wrote: Bleh. My streak of never protecting a mafia has ended. I wonder if it counts though because it was night 0? Really.....I wouldn't count N0 protection of mafia.... You had nothing to go on! =D | ||
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