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/confirm Oh,I am playing! Well,first off this setup is crazy (in case nobody noticed that yet) and indeed we can't be sure about anything. I think that the lynches we started should be in effect as fast as possible, it will take 10 votes to majority lynch someone. That means we need to get those 10 votes as fast as possible,because we risk getting random person from nowhere posting some weak/decent analysis and voting our lynch candidate to death,while we're not ready for it. We must be in control of the lynch,we start it and we make it happen! Also I hope I don't die Night 0, this looks like a fun game TT
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Just a question.. are we really going to lynch based on meta? Really?
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Assuming we have Coroner type role should it target lynched people or night kills so we know how many blues or townies died ? Should vigi kills have the same priority as lynches ? Id like to avoid viging anyone though ,unless we are dead sure someone's scum .
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It is just Fishball, just give him time to get running ! Either way I dont see a huge and strong case against him just yet,nothing crucial was told to be honest. It is just like lynching Chezinu based on meta.
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@Radfield If You don't die this night or next I will be highly disappointed with our Mafia in Liquidia.
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GGQ was killed because he is lucky when it comes to being mafia,gg vigilante.
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On June 27 2011 19:34 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2011 19:33 Kurumi wrote: GGQ was killed because he is lucky when it comes to being mafia,gg vigilante. Wait, are you claiming you shot GGQ? Nah,just an observation that many people would like to see him dead just because he is red in most of his games.
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RoL,Ace stated that Mafia with 2KP would be too strong in this setup so I think it is either real Vigilante or Third Party Planar Dragon.
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LSB,why the heck are You discussing night hits when we don't know shit,why do You suspect Caller killing GGQ? I know there are people with motive to kill GGQ,but betting it on Caller just because is dumb. I think we should leave Night hits for now.
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He claimed three roles at once,so he is vanilla or veteran,is that so hard?
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Thirteen is my lucky number. Sup Fishball,who's King today?
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On June 27 2011 23:30 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2011 21:43 deconduo wrote: Unless I see them step up their posting significantly, I would suggest Fishball/Caller for today. No use keeping them around to crap up the thread. Show nested quote +On June 27 2011 23:23 Fishball wrote:On June 27 2011 18:26 deconduo wrote: Fishball and Caller have been totally useless, and I'm waiting to see if LSB has anything to say. These are the people that should be up for lynching today. In a no reveal setup, anyone thats just fucking around without giving of any reads needs to die.
Such a hypocrite, and daft to boot. Although after what you displayed in PYP3, I expected nothing less from you. Or do you have a different agenda? Oh well, time will tell. -Super defensive -Resorting to (bad) personal attacks -Still hasn't contributed. Has Fishball stepped up his posting? Nope. ##Vote Fishball Last guy who picked up on Fishball's posting like that got his ass annihilated..
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On June 27 2011 23:43 Caller wrote: I dont understand why nobody believes that I annihilated GGQ's ass
do you doubt the size of my penis? come at me bro
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Post by post analysis? Jeez,that's so two thousand and late.
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I will continue herping derping till something worth a while comes or two men in black come to my house.
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On June 28 2011 03:02 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2011 23:15 Kurumi wrote: He claimed three roles at once,so he is vanilla or veteran,is that so hard? I do not follow that logic. I do not follow Your logic.
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On June 28 2011 04:57 sandroba wrote: @BC let me get this straight: You are calling deconduo scummy and Radfield dumb, but you are voting rad?
Also kurumi can you pls stop trolling? I know you think you can troll with impunity, but I'ma make sure we rectify that this game. Oh shit Caller,we are one person now!
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And policy about not believing any claims just flew through the window ...
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GGQ makes me think about six,dunno why. Gotta shower now since nothing worthwhile is happening. Oh also I like this game because noone gives a flying fuck that I vote Hesmyrr without any case,too bad I am not mafia in this game.
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On June 28 2011 08:35 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 08:21 deconduo wrote: I'll deal with Fishball tonight. I think Caller is still a good option so that we might actually have some decent discussion tomorrow.
Soft blue claim? Yeah he claimed vigilante before because he is scum,now move.
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Dec and Palmar are scum, Radfield is town .
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Fishball,Radfield are town. Palmar and Deconduo are scum,now I am going back to flying under the radar. Oh, and three dwarves went to the pub and got drunk. If I see a late case on Radfield as scum today,the creator is scum.
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On June 28 2011 21:37 deconduo wrote: I have two trains of thought going on at the moment:
-Fishball is mafia. Mafia are scared that I'm going to kill him so they are trying to get me lynched. I would put Fishball, BC, Kurumi as scum. Other possible suspects are Palmar, Jackal, Chezinu. Radfield, LSB are probably town.
-Fishball is town. Mafia are just lurking away happy at the fact that nothing is going on. Chaoser, ILJ, sandroba would be my biggest suspects. Radfield, BC, Caller (*sigh*), probably town.
If you put a gun to my head, given how the game has played out so far, my gut says option number 2 right now.
If you want me to say something like Fishball is 100% town or 100% mafia, don't be dumb. Its day 1, theres not exactly a lot to go on. I don't know anything for certain. I do know that Fishball has been pretty unhelpful so far. When he was asked nicely to step up his game he refused. When he was threatened to step up his game he refused. As such, unless a better target presents itself, I'm shooting him tonight. You were die hard on Fishball,now betting him as town.. Yeah.
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Palmar,call a hit on Caller then I will start caring about Your worthless post-by-post "analysis". Trying to get rid of "weak" townie? Caller is bigger fish,too big for Your scummy mouth to swallow. I won't get lynched myself Day 1 like in XXXIX,in this game I will defend myself and bring town scum to lynch.
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Palmar,You were the guy who said mass shooting is acceptable in this game. It is not.
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On June 28 2011 22:11 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 22:09 Kurumi wrote: Palmar,You were the guy who said mass shooting is acceptable in this game. It is not. It is. I forgot for a while You're scum,sorry.
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LSB,read PYPI,I was Mafia here,together with Chezinu,Caller,Ace,tnkted and Gmarshal as a mole. I will gladly answer everything.
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On June 29 2011 00:31 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 00:29 Palmar wrote:On June 29 2011 00:28 deconduo wrote:On June 29 2011 00:27 Palmar wrote:On June 29 2011 00:20 LSB wrote: Intresting analysis. But why does "trolling" make someone mafia? If trolling makes someone mafia, shouldn't Caller also be in that list?
Call me naive, but I assume everyone is here to try to win. I don't think anyone is going to argue that mindless trolling, followed by the defense of "but that guy is trolling more", is in any way helpful for the town. I know Kurumi is capable of playing against his win condition (see PTP) but in a game full of experienced vets, I'd expect him to at least try to win, instead of looking at this as his own little playground. So assuming he's playing to win, that leaves only the possibility of him being mafia. So yes, trolling = mafia. So Caller and Fishball are mafia as well then? Caller just might be. Fishball has contributed more than you. People keep saying that, yet are unable to point to a single contribution by him. Mafia team: Fishball BC Kurumi Palmar How Deconduo 2000 works: Accuse someone is mafia and soft claim vigilante(or breadcrumb it) Die hard attack that person,threaten to kill them. Fall back,claim that You only have one bullet. Post Mafia list with Your buddy and the guy You accused before as leading candidate. SHAZZAM
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Since Palmar and deconduo are scum and You don't want to lynch Palmar (Hesmyrr) ##Vote deconduo
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On June 29 2011 04:41 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 04:20 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On June 29 2011 04:15 Palmar wrote: I don't like either of the lynch targets at the moment.
Chaoser/VisEyes is being voted for not contributing, but well... he got replaced out of the game because he didn't have time, and VisEyes just came in.
deconduo's actions make no sense at all, not as mafia and not as town. It's astonishing he did what he did, but my best bet at the moment is to put it down to terrible town play. We can always lynch him tomorrow if the mafia doesn't end him.
So, in my opinion we need to think up a new lynch. I don't think it was for lack of contributing so much as what the little Chaoser contributed was. Some shitty list which could be used to feign actually being active, and then VisceraEyes attacking you when you appear pro town. I was actually going to suggest switching to Kurumi as well until I saw VisceraEyes first contribution attacking town players. Is chaoser honestly that stupid. Like I don't think anyone in this game really thinks that posting lists somehow counts for contribution. I'd much rather kill Kurumi and see what VisEyes is up to. Trust me VisEyes has a bit of a thing for trying to lynch me and he really likes to misread stuff. Though, in all honesty, I want to lynch Radfield. I think that'd be our best lynch today. Sure You want to lynch Radfield scum,You killed GMarshal now You need to get rid of Radfield. Classic. I might contribute but since noone's making a case against me (just "herp derp he is trolling,so is Caller but he is scum Caller is not" nonsense) Also, thirteen wait for another transmission.
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Well,people accuse me without any case going on and want force me to speed up things I am doing right now,I was busy breadcrumbing my role,let me work seriously now,because this is heading ridiculously wrong.
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Why Hesmyrr or Palmar are Scum Let's look at what Hesmyrr contributed before he got replaced... + Show Spoiler +On June 26 2011 03:29 Hesmyrr wrote:SO. MUCH. WOT. ARGUARGUARGU /confirm GMarshal, about Show nested quote +So we hang any dt who claims to have found mafia and then we lynch their claimed check , why are lynching DT claim first? I know every guilty result claim should be regarded with skepticism (especially when one consecutively claims to have found guilty in which case your statement might be justified) but as long as the possibility of coroner - or any role that can somehow 'check' validity of one's statement - exists it should be net loss for us to lynch the DT first. Radfield basically ninja tl;dr'd what I wanted to say. Noone gives a damn that someone said what You wanted to. Voice Your opinion in Your OWN words,when You agree with something,BACK THE SHIT UP.
Also look at his addition to "lynch DT before his claimed guilty" He says that we should lynch DT's target and make Coroner check the dead body.. What this gives us?
WIFOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM. A lot. So: DT says X is Mafia. We lynch X. REAL Coroner reveals(OH MY GOD YOU ARE DEAD SON) and confirms that the dead guy is scum. Yay,two real blues revealed! Good deal for mafia.
False DT says X is Mafia (he is not) We lynch X. False Coroner reveals and confirms that the dead guy was indeed Mafia. Hooray,our lynches are now Scum's!
False DT says X is Mafia (he is not) Real Coroner denies it.
Now even more Wifom emerges and I am already tired of thinking how bad could it end when scenarios like that appear. The other post is about how terrible Toy Factory Mafia was for Town or shit like that,we're done with Hesmyrr's posts. Yeah.
Now Palmar. He jumps into a game with a plan.. TERRIBLE PLAN. Well,for us,not for them Scum. + Show Spoiler +On June 28 2011 09:21 Palmar wrote: I seem to have entered the thread at a great time.
The town is lost in disarray, confusion and fear, but no longer do you have to suffer from this, as your savior has arrived. Since I missed all the fun on discussing policies, I'll chime in on them a bit.
Vigs should shoot first night, and every night there after. I don't care if this means the game is shorter, it means that higher percentage of the kills are town kills, and thus in effect reducing the number of mafia kills. As any vig hit is guaranteed not to hit one townie, it has a slightly higher chance of success than a lynch. So fire away my friends!
Any people pushing for no lynches, or no shooting are not my friends.
Also, deconduo is probably scum. I suggest we either lynch him or ask for a specific kill target or something.
I also think Kurumi is scum, but I guess that can wait a bit.
He suggests that we should make our furniture from bodies,sounds fun. Sure that Vigilante shooting won't shoot himself,but since it is no-flip NOTHING is confirmed. You shot 100% Scum in Your eyes? Better pray he wasn't last Coroner. You shot semi-lurking guy? He better wasn't DT who had 2 Red checks in his pocket. Also shooting like that gives even more chaos.
"I think X was Mafia shot!" "I think it was Z,he was active!"
Fuck that,we had two kills Night 0 which were something we totally did not expect. Vigilantes are not for shooting randomly,Vigilantes are DTs who give confirmed checks in any other game. In this game,they're KILLERS. They don't prove anything,they only silence the person they killed. I'd like You to look at this sentence
Any people pushing for no lynches, or no shooting are not my friends. END. Where's Your voice about no lynches? Why is it bad? You just threw it out like that. "NO LYNCHES ARE BAD SON AND YOU BETTER BELIEVE YOUR DADDY" Nope. He brings two scum suspects,one already under pressure and other flying under the radar. He leaves a spot for Deconduo to "redeem" himself,but in my case,he is like: "He is scum,but this isn't our priority now" Wat. Really? If I am scum,PUSH MY LYNCH,GET ME DEAD. I am scum right? Well,in Your eyes maybe yes,but I know my role. 13 2 6 3 2 2 13 Now pardon me for a bit.
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On June 29 2011 05:54 Palmar wrote: Btw, I totally don't agree with Hesmyrr about lynching the guilty report first.
So, while you can pretend it's a scumtell, it no longer applies to the player playing. You had Your first post to straighten it up. Now You're just being wishy-washy and advocating Yourself.
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Looks like I wont be able to sleep tonight. Palmar's case is just : Kurumi is trolling , he is scum !
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Kurumi's anti lynch packet: the why I have been acting like I was : I dislike being ignored , it makes me feel useless and does not give me any window improve after I die. The last game I was flying under the radar was PYPI, where I was scum. I dislike lurking thirty nine and most of the time I dont know what to do . I gladly respond to pressure and questions because it is something leaving me with only one one or two options . Given that , anything I do after such a start is being ignored or treated as scum tell . I wrote this because I dont want to wake up with my ass lynched.
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Oh and since somebody asked ##unvote ##vote ilovejonn
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Oh cmon voting on phone is really hard , are we swinging Lynch on ilj or amber ?
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Hey,that means we've got our lynch anyway! Also deconduo was one of candidates,amazing! I should get some observation written up by the end of the night guys,hang on.
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inb4 miller claim ##vote RebirthofLegend Hanging DT first was retarded from very start.
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Oh also,I am up for killing any fucking Coroner who shows up tomorrow. You can go to hell. The probability You're Scum Coroner are as high as Sea Towers in Gdynia.
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Are You really trying to divert the lynch telling us that Third Party role exists and it is Caller? Lol.
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Mafia was given Medic? Oh shit.
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On July 01 2011 02:44 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2011 02:42 Palmar wrote:On July 01 2011 02:42 Caller wrote:On July 01 2011 02:41 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On July 01 2011 02:41 Palmar wrote:On July 01 2011 02:39 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On July 01 2011 02:38 Fishball wrote:On July 01 2011 02:36 Caller wrote:On July 01 2011 02:34 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On July 01 2011 01:58 Caller wrote: [quote] medics do not fucking claim. Are you fucking kidding? If you are gungho about getting me killed why would you dismiss evidence to the contrary? Is this a fucking joke? You are saying I am a lying mafia, I am saying I am not. and i'm saying there's no need to do so because I have already proven that you are lying and are simply trying to flush out medics so that your buddies will be able to hit them tomorrow. It's already proven that you're mafia. Anyone that doesn't follow my logic needs to get their head checked. It was my logic! Your logic sucked too. Fuck logic, hanging you is the Emperor's command. I feel betrayed by blood. hurry up and claim then, let's hear your claim. maybe we'll get off you. Claim his role, or my throne? Icelands not even a real country. Before dying You could post Your results. ##unvote RebirthOfLegend
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Guess he wasn't Coroner,meh.
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Fishball,Caller and BC are mafia,fourth is already dead and it wasn't deconduo,hurray this game.
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Oh Yeah Caller,when only one death flips I am dead sure YOu're scum. Scratch the part about Fishball and BC,I am undecided.
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On July 01 2011 04:44 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2011 04:35 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On July 01 2011 04:31 Caller wrote: EBWOP: Let's say mafia can shoot their own members. First of all, they can't. Second of all, if they do, you admit that you are mafia. Then, sure, I may no longer be 100% confirmed, but what kind of mafia will bus not one but TWO of their members? Especially when they were in the middle of an otherwise impossible to break scheme that would allow them to run town around in circles? Really? You want to go there? Ace, can you come confirm in thread as you did to me in a pm all of 5 minutes ago that Mafia can indeed shoot their own? Or may I post the pm? As for you saying I am red, I am proving you a liar at the moment. You say what Mafia would bus two of their own in this scheme when either of the players in question could be third party, town, mafia. We could have all 3 on this board. You don't account for many situations and skew the facts to confirm yourself. Without any flip of my role you are not proven at all. Without your flip you are not proven. You have claimed killing ggq, gmarshal, claimed 3 different roles, and are now claiming i am lying about my blue claim. However my ability caught your one truthful claim in amongst all your lies. Just accept that and move on. Nothing confirms either of us but death and a flip. Or perhaps a cop could check you next. i don't need to account for many situations and the facts are straightforward enough. Who cares if I'm not proven. I'M FUCKING CALLER. All that matters is that you die tonight (as you shall) and Fishball dies tomorrow. What happens afterwards, I no longer give a damn. Town can lynch me for lying, sure. But if they do stupid shit like that, after I literally saved town from being led around in circles like a fucking top, and hand them two mafia, well, ok. I'm done arguing about this. Once again, BC tonight, Fishball tomorrow, then you guys can go ahead and string me up on effigy. I've already shown I'm not 3rd Party, I've already shown why BC's "claim" basically makes most of the "situations" impossible, leaving me almost certainly not scum, and I'm handing you two very dangerous mafia. And I'm shooting first. If you still don't believe me and listen to the "BUT WHAT ABOUT THIS OR THIS OR THIS OR THIS OR ONE OF ANOTHER THREE HUNDRED NEXT TO IMPOSSIBLE SITUATIONS" wifoming spamming mafia instead, well, I hope you lose. Because I'm in this to kick ass and chew bubblegum. And I'm all out of gum. I'd shoot Fishball but I have no bullets yo
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BloodyCobbler suddenly bears a role which actually flips after death! YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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On July 01 2011 04:55 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2011 04:54 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On July 01 2011 04:52 Caller wrote:On July 01 2011 04:49 Jackal58 wrote:On July 01 2011 04:24 Caller wrote:On July 01 2011 04:21 Jackal58 wrote:On July 01 2011 04:01 Caller wrote: Yes I lied. I openly admit it. But it doesn't matter. I can lie as much as I want, but once you die tomorrow I am 100% proven clean town. Even if I lied to do so. No reason to lynch proven town at all.
Also, Fishball MUST be lying. If BC dies by himself (meaning only person that dies tomorrow is BC), first, I'm proven innocent as seen above. ???? How? did you not read BC telling the truth: I had 1 KP and it was used up. Therefore I cannot kill BC, therefore, I am not mafia. Either the mafia will kill him, or he will not die. If I were mafia, I would have infinite KP, as I had already said. BC lying: He is mafia, mafia cannot shoot other mafia, I shoot him with my 2nd (and last bullet), he dies, therefore I am not mafia. 1st I agree with your assertion that mafia cannot kill themselves. At least I have never been in a setup that allowed for it. But this is Ace's game so who the fuck knows. 2nd if BC is the only player hit tonight I still don't see how that would in any way indicate or confirm you are town. If scum and you both hit BC then BC is dead and you have your "mystery" bullet back. If only scum hit BC then that raises the probability of him telling the truth. Which means you are for some reason lying now which does town no good. If BC doesn't die the probability of you FB and BC all being scum or alternately batshit fucking insane goes through the roof. like i said i no longer care about whether or not im confirmed. But I've already shown logically and soundly that BC and Fishball are scum. You don't have to believe me whether or not I'm innocent or not. But are you seriously defending that BC and Fishball are not mafia? I wish I had more bullets, then. Man are you going to feel bad when I flip town. too bad you guys killed off the coroner i'm han solo. I shoot first. he was really coroner?
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I still don't know why they didn't kill me as confirmed Townie guess they have better targets than confirmed people lol.
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So let's assume Caller is 3rd Party: BC is lying about his role and Fishball is his bro. Let's assume Caller is Mafia Jerkcircle,BC,Caller and Fishball are remaining mafia.
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Vanilla Townie,breadcrumbed that shit,check mate mafia.
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@LSB That only proves Caller is indeed a vigilante because Mafia would be more concerned about taking out Fishball the DT -_-
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I suggest lynching Chezinu. This guy was ready to lynch every blue we had. Also he is behaving weirdly and protecting Caller.
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@LSB He was roleblocked when? Night 2?
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Who is Mafia: Chezinu Amber(might be jonn,both lurk I think) Caller
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On July 02 2011 23:17 LSB wrote:He claimed that he was roleblocked night 2. So Mafia has 2KP? Seriously?
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You want to out the medic,don't You? So Your team can snipe him off? Shoot here. I want to test my Veteran powers. And yes I lied. I wanted scum to think that I am useless. Heard me? Shoot me,but bring at least 2KP.
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On July 03 2011 02:13 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2011 01:30 Kurumi wrote: You want to out the medic,don't You? So Your team can snipe him off? Shoot here. I want to test my Veteran powers. And yes I lied. I wanted scum to think that I am useless. Heard me? Shoot me,but bring at least 2KP. lol? i argued against outing the medic when RoL false claimed. LSB is asking to be killed here if medic claims. Easy. Well,since You have no KP to deal with me,puny scum I can call You all dicks. Come at me bros. Can't touch me.
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On July 03 2011 03:18 Caller wrote: so kurumi claims veteran as does sandroba. Ok. I am Veteran Medic from Vietman,did You pull out a knife from Your buddy's eye? I bet not,kid!
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On July 03 2011 04:04 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2011 03:33 Kurumi wrote:On July 03 2011 03:18 Caller wrote: so kurumi claims veteran as does sandroba. Ok. I am Veteran Medic from Vietman,did You pull out a knife from Your buddy's eye? I bet not,kid! you weren't there man you weren't there I stick a knife in one of Vietnamese soldier's ass,he shit onto it and I still have it at home,want me to stick it into Your butt after You get lynched?
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On July 03 2011 04:14 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2011 04:07 Kurumi wrote:On July 03 2011 04:04 Caller wrote:On July 03 2011 03:33 Kurumi wrote:On July 03 2011 03:18 Caller wrote: so kurumi claims veteran as does sandroba. Ok. I am Veteran Medic from Vietman,did You pull out a knife from Your buddy's eye? I bet not,kid! you weren't there man you weren't there I stick a knife in one of Vietnamese soldier's ass,he shit onto it and I still have it at home,want me to stick it into Your butt after You get lynched? you have no idea what it was like in Khe Sanh Stop reading a book about Vietnam and quoting random shit,You don't know shit how it is like to be in a tunnel full of those barbaric Vietnamese killing Your entire team,they were like family to me!
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On July 03 2011 04:26 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2011 04:24 Kurumi wrote:On July 03 2011 04:14 Caller wrote:On July 03 2011 04:07 Kurumi wrote:On July 03 2011 04:04 Caller wrote:On July 03 2011 03:33 Kurumi wrote:On July 03 2011 03:18 Caller wrote: so kurumi claims veteran as does sandroba. Ok. I am Veteran Medic from Vietman,did You pull out a knife from Your buddy's eye? I bet not,kid! you weren't there man you weren't there I stick a knife in one of Vietnamese soldier's ass,he shit onto it and I still have it at home,want me to stick it into Your butt after You get lynched? you have no idea what it was like in Khe Sanh Stop reading a book about Vietnam and quoting random shit,You don't know shit how it is like to be in a tunnel full of those barbaric Vietnamese killing Your entire team,they were like family to me! you have no idea what it is like at night to wake up and find that all of your friends are dead around you in a cong ambush, walking through the jungle with fucking snipers at every bush and when the fucking airforce comes in they fucking napalm the jungle, causing you to have to not only outrun the fucking cong but that firestorm of hell you fucking pole I wonder why You weren't dead along with Your friends,did You dress up like a girl?
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On July 03 2011 04:32 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2011 04:31 Kurumi wrote:On July 03 2011 04:26 Caller wrote:On July 03 2011 04:24 Kurumi wrote:On July 03 2011 04:14 Caller wrote:On July 03 2011 04:07 Kurumi wrote:On July 03 2011 04:04 Caller wrote:On July 03 2011 03:33 Kurumi wrote:On July 03 2011 03:18 Caller wrote: so kurumi claims veteran as does sandroba. Ok. I am Veteran Medic from Vietman,did You pull out a knife from Your buddy's eye? I bet not,kid! you weren't there man you weren't there I stick a knife in one of Vietnamese soldier's ass,he shit onto it and I still have it at home,want me to stick it into Your butt after You get lynched? you have no idea what it was like in Khe Sanh Stop reading a book about Vietnam and quoting random shit,You don't know shit how it is like to be in a tunnel full of those barbaric Vietnamese killing Your entire team,they were like family to me! you have no idea what it is like at night to wake up and find that all of your friends are dead around you in a cong ambush, walking through the jungle with fucking snipers at every bush and when the fucking airforce comes in they fucking napalm the jungle, causing you to have to not only outrun the fucking cong but that firestorm of hell you fucking pole I wonder why You weren't dead along with Your friends,did You dress up like a girl? no my helmet saved me from the mortar shell that got everyone else. we were in the front line while you damn pencilpushers sat on your asses while doing blow off thai hookers I was rumored to be KIA for twenty years.
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On July 03 2011 04:39 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2011 04:37 Kurumi wrote:On July 03 2011 04:32 Caller wrote:On July 03 2011 04:31 Kurumi wrote:On July 03 2011 04:26 Caller wrote:On July 03 2011 04:24 Kurumi wrote:On July 03 2011 04:14 Caller wrote:On July 03 2011 04:07 Kurumi wrote:On July 03 2011 04:04 Caller wrote:On July 03 2011 03:33 Kurumi wrote: [quote] I am Veteran Medic from Vietman,did You pull out a knife from Your buddy's eye? I bet not,kid! you weren't there man you weren't there I stick a knife in one of Vietnamese soldier's ass,he shit onto it and I still have it at home,want me to stick it into Your butt after You get lynched? you have no idea what it was like in Khe Sanh Stop reading a book about Vietnam and quoting random shit,You don't know shit how it is like to be in a tunnel full of those barbaric Vietnamese killing Your entire team,they were like family to me! you have no idea what it is like at night to wake up and find that all of your friends are dead around you in a cong ambush, walking through the jungle with fucking snipers at every bush and when the fucking airforce comes in they fucking napalm the jungle, causing you to have to not only outrun the fucking cong but that firestorm of hell you fucking pole I wonder why You weren't dead along with Your friends,did You dress up like a girl? no my helmet saved me from the mortar shell that got everyone else. we were in the front line while you damn pencilpushers sat on your asses while doing blow off thai hookers I was rumored to be KIA for twenty years. if by kia you were fucking awol sure They have blown entire tunnel system so they thought I were dead,I was joining random teams who never heard about me,as far I know none of those survived to tell my story. I did not know when the war ended. I was hiding and killing every guy in any sort of uniform not speaking fluent English or other non-Asian language. That way I killed sixty four policemen. There were rumours about huge snake eating them, BUT IT WAS ME.
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On July 03 2011 04:49 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2011 23:03 Kurumi wrote: I suggest lynching Chezinu. This guy was ready to lynch every blue we had. Also he is behaving weirdly and protecting Caller. /facepalm How is this even true? What blues did I try to get lynched? Can't blame me for saving VisceraEyes's life.Can't blame me for trying to cast suspicious on Fishball so that he would live longer and not get shot tonight. PS I wonder if BC could possibly be the godfather that is so talented that he looks innocent even when he is dead.. What did You claim?
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On July 03 2011 05:11 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2011 23:03 Kurumi wrote: I suggest lynching Chezinu. This guy was ready to lynch every blue we had. Also he is behaving weirdly and protecting Caller. How is this even true? What blues did I try to get lynched?
On July 01 2011 22:40 Chezinu wrote: So Caller will kill BC. Town will lynch Fishball. After that we lynch citi.zen. Then we lynch Jackal58 the following day. If the game isn't over we kill sandroba next.
Fishball was DT. Citizen is Blue. Jackal and sandroba are not red. Caller is 3rd party or Ace is trolling us.
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On July 03 2011 05:18 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2011 22:42 Chezinu wrote: Well, Fishball can still save himself from being lynch tomorrow. I wasn't being completely serious about that list. What about citi.zen? Sandroba and Jack58 whom I have a town read on? I think You,Caller and Amber/Jonn are three scum remaining.
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Chezinu,how killing GMarshal who was leaving so many town vibes and BC,who COULD BE BLUE but was lying to attract hit was pro-town? The fuck?
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Jack58 should read Jackal58.
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Town list,really? What about scum lol? Let's lynch Caller so we get rid of that KP killing everyone around and then lynch Chezinu and jonn/amber.
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Just a note guys,we're going to lose this if we leave everything to blues,I think there wasn't single analysis done on anyone yet.
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RoL was Red and was on VE. I believe Radfield's claim. BC was green. Dec was probably green. Jackal is probably town. Amber is red. We either have two scum left or jonn was voting different.
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Also,Chezinu is back to trolling,yay~
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On July 03 2011 06:04 Amber[LighT] wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2011 05:50 Kurumi wrote: RoL was Red and was on VE. I believe Radfield's claim. BC was green. Dec was probably green. Jackal is probably town. Amber is red. We either have two scum left or jonn was voting different. Start proving it. lol really?
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On June 29 2011 10:49 Amber[LighT] wrote: Cherry picking my posts doesn't make me scum.
I just find it funny that conveniently after chaoser made that garbage list post he was replaced, essentially making it useless for the town to ask viscera what was meant.
And Rol you should watch your shit. All of a sudden you were.'catching up' and someone throws my name into the ring and you hop on me out of convenience. You gotta do better than that if you want to help your scum buddy out. Guess its easy to throw your friends under the bus first
Another reference for the town: when Rol and I are on the same mafia team he will stay very far away from me. Also when jackal plays normally he will call out someone for being scum by literally saying "xxx is scum."
Yup,You are on the same scum team.
On June 29 2011 09:46 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2011 21:37 Amber[LighT] wrote: Okay first off anyone who is suggesting that there is a serial killer is automatically getting an FoS today. You're just introducing more unnecessary discussion into a chaotic setup. Have no fear, there's a plan to clear this crap up. If you have a pro-town KP role, don't fucking use it tonight. Consider tonight a day off from your ability. Unless you're some compulsive vigilante this shouldn't be a problem. Assuming there is only 1 night kill tonight we can safely say there is NO serial killer.
On to more important things: The Lynch
We know that there needs to be a majority lynch, the magic number today is 9. Here's what we should do. Build a case against, AT THE MOST, 2 players. This should be done within the first 24 hours. Have some good arguments ready because the town will pressure you by asking WHY we should lynch the person you're suspecting. Once we have a general idea of the two players we want to lynch we settle it over a vote. This guarantees that one player will be lynched.
A couple of rules when voting should be established: 1. Do not vote for yourself 2. Do not vote for someone to essentially avoid confrontation or to "save your vote." 3. Try to vote once and stick with it.
If you are protown you should abide by these rules. If you're scum you are highly encouraged to break these rules. Townies caught breaking these rules will die, and I will not feel sorry when we lose due to idiocy.
Lurking will get you killed, so don't try it.
I'll post suspects when I'm ready, it's really too early to just throw names out there. Points of scumminess: 1) Dictating in no uncertain terms what you should be doing as town. Oh my, so if I vote for someone and then realize that I've made a mistake, I'm not allowed to change my mind or I'm scum? I wholly disagree with this notion (and NOT because everyone's vote is on me). I feel like in a game of imperfect information, the information made available to us is NOT going to come all at once, and as such, people should be free to change their mind should they choose...and be able to do so without fearing that they'll instantly be painted scum for doing so. You know who wants people to be afraid of looking like scum? Scum do. 2) Suggesting that Town KP not be used tonight. There's literally NO reason not to use Town KP tonight. We'll find out if there's SK out there when there's unclaimed deaths. This reads like a scum that is afraid of getting vig'd because he knows he doesn't plan on posting much. Lurkers gon' die, that's been made abundantly clear. 3) Lurking will get you killed, so don't try it. lolwut? Amber has been THE MOST LURKY PLAYER IN THE GAME so far. 4) Promise to post suspects. Never does. Instead, jumps on the easy bandwagon and continues to lurk. No reason given.
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A) You still lurk B) Still failed to contribute C) Defending ahead when someone ties You to RoL. Check mate. ##vote Amber[LighT]
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On July 03 2011 07:08 Palmar wrote: Btw, Sandroba and LSB are scum We just make LSB mimic Caller's action on jonn,deal?
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On July 03 2011 07:20 Palmar wrote: So yeah
Sandroba is scum
He's basically FoS'd a grand total of one person who was in my opinion pretty much obvious town. He hasn't done anything interesting all game.
##Unvote ##Vote Sandroba
You guys should totally help me lynch him.
LSB is scum too. If there is one more I'm not sure who it is. What about Amber lol?
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On July 03 2011 07:47 Palmar wrote: screw amber, let's kill sandroba. Why? I already thought Hesmyrr and You were scum and I am thinking that You,Amber and Caller are the remaining mafia. Do something man!
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On July 03 2011 08:35 Palmar wrote: nah, I'm not scum.
you can hang me if you like, no one will die the following night.
I read back to day one and day two a bit, this game has been such a ton of shit that it's kind of hard to actually get anything useful out of the thread, but I'll try to point out the links.
BTW, I'm working under the assumption RoL was definitely mafia, which I think we can almost all agree on now.
That's why LSB is cleared >_>
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Thanks jonn,another claim I am going to believe,Amber and Caller are scum. ##unvote Amber[LighT] ##Vote Caller
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Well I wonder who I should protect this night.. citi.zen is the most important guy,so let be it.
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Need two votes guys,town it up!
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On July 03 2011 09:00 Amber[LighT] wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2011 08:58 ilovejonn wrote: Come on town, we have to vote together. =/ You've all seen Caller's game, we can take down mafia 1 by 1, no need to create more targets than we need. FoS on people not voting Caller and thus trying to break town focus and cause a no-lynch! Be patient there's more to winning than just voting for the sake of voting quickly. no u
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On July 03 2011 21:50 Jackal58 wrote: Take Amber off your list Palmar. He's town. I guarantee it. Then claim that fucking Mafia Goon and we can lynch Your asses tomorrow.
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Meh,I have no idea why Jackal defends Amber who is scum >_>
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I protected citi.zen because he is confirmed Blue/Town.
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Sandroba,did You heal RoL at any point of the game?
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Oh wait,he claimed VT,why he is listed as blue? I still think he is a medic but wat
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Jackal said You're clear Amber - You're confirmed town together with citi.zen.
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On July 04 2011 21:48 Palmar wrote: Cool,
So we hang Chez and Sandroba.
If the scum isn't dead by then we kill Kurumi. Yeah,whatever You want. I think Chez is null read,but whatever.
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On July 04 2011 22:36 Amber[LighT] wrote: I think sandroba should be lynched first... He claimed VT,what did Chez claim?
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On July 05 2011 01:46 LSB wrote: Just wondering, medics can you self protect? I can't,though I have two lives.
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On July 05 2011 01:54 LSB wrote: For everyone, I've provided this list. I have bolded the things I feel are too convenient
ilovejonn- Coroner sandroba- No claim LSB- JOAT Palmar- Virgin citi.zen- Chief Investigator Chezinu- Vanilla Town Amber[LighT]- Mason Kurumi- Veteran Medic
Sandroba- Generally mafia don't like to claim until the very end in order to see what other people are doing. Palmar- A weird role that hasn't seen much play in TL Mafia. It through me off guard since it didn't seem like a role Ace would actually use. Amber[LighT]- Well, until Amber posts his PM conversation with Jackal, he will always be suspicious in my eyes Kurumi- Mafia generally like to claim roles that can explain why they are alive. A role like a veteran is a good claim as then people won't wonder why you are alive. I am alive because I am useless besides healing people,meh.
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On July 05 2011 02:00 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 01:56 Kurumi wrote:On July 05 2011 01:54 LSB wrote: For everyone, I've provided this list. I have bolded the things I feel are too convenient
ilovejonn- Coroner sandroba- No claim LSB- JOAT Palmar- Virgin citi.zen- Chief Investigator Chezinu- Vanilla Town Amber[LighT]- Mason Kurumi- Veteran Medic
Sandroba- Generally mafia don't like to claim until the very end in order to see what other people are doing. Palmar- A weird role that hasn't seen much play in TL Mafia. It through me off guard since it didn't seem like a role Ace would actually use. Amber[LighT]- Well, until Amber posts his PM conversation with Jackal, he will always be suspicious in my eyes Kurumi- Mafia generally like to claim roles that can explain why they are alive. A role like a veteran is a good claim as then people won't wonder why you are alive. I am alive because I am useless besides healing people,meh. Btw, did you protect Rol night 2? no
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Hmm,we can still win this if I manage to heal right guy and You LSB,shooting the right guy. This might be hard though. I believe sandroba just scumslipped,so I'd lynch him. I might take the shot,but I'd rather see Sandroba lynched and Chez killed.
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On July 05 2011 06:40 sandroba wrote: Kurumi it's kinda nice that you jump from Sandroba is obvious town to "he scumsliped" and votes for me for no reason. Also Chez and LSB both lieing about me not roleclaiming, when I was the first to do so, just to throw suspicion on me. I believed You claimed medic and You never were obvious town. You were 90% town based on that You're the medic.
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##unvote dem toilet thoughts
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Confirmed Town: Amber[LighT] citi.zen People who are probably confirmed Town: Palmar People who can be faking: LSB ilovejonn Null reads Chezinu, sandroba Ok,we have 8 players alive. Amber,Citi and myself are townies. 5 players left. Let's assume Palmar is confirmed town. FOUR CONFIRMED PLAYERS,HALF OF THE GAME HOLY CRAP BATMAN! That leaves us: LSB,ilovejonn,Chezinu,sandroba I believe scum MUST be somewhere there. I will verify roleclaims now.
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Let's look,Fishball strongly believes that LSB is scum.. LSB shot RoL Night 1. RoL did not lie about his role and I think he DID NOT lie about his medic protect. Medic is either mafia or we have something cool over here. So let's do this. ilovejonn claimed to check GGQ's body on Night 0.. He got killed by mafia. Night ??? Check was deconduo,who was obvious Vigilante... but there's a treat: he SPECIFIES that GGQ was town alligned,but does not give that information about decon.. Night ??? Check was Scamp,and his body was missing.. Now the fun part. Somehow between those he checked RoL's body which turned out to be Mafia Janitor... So let's think a bit. Both Scamp and GGQ were mafia kills. They could EASILY hide those bodies. Why didn't they hide both? One-shot ability? Why Scamp? If Mafia would indeed have Mafia Janitor they had cleaned up GGQ's body easily. So You know how it goes? RoL was Mafia Coroner. He gave ilovejonn his checks to back up the claim. ilovejonn is scum. He does not specify when the check happened. He tries to frame LSB. He tries to convince us that Mafia Janitor existed. ##vote ilovejonn VOTE HIM,WE ARE CLOSE TO VICTORY GUYS,MAFIA IS BETWEEN CHEZ AND SANDROBA NOW
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GGQ returned "Busy Paramedic"
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Also look how ilovejonn does not specify how his role works(LSB done it too,but I think he has an ace under his sleeve) he claims that he checks people everything,then that he checks two,then he checks one,it makes no sense.
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Oh also ilj,I don't give a fuck about Your "I was on RoL from very beginning,I also helped to lynch Caller who was scummy as fuck!" It is common tactic for Mafia to put guys on every corner of Town. RoL being red gave You "cred",nope.
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LSB,You said You mimiced RoL checking a dead body.. care to say which body and what did he get?
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Palmar it is right You have a problem with my claim. I breadcrumbed VT because I am VT,I lied because I wanted to discourage Mafia from hitting confirmed Town citi.zen... My breadcrumb reads numbers I posted in Mafia XXXIX when I was Vanilla Town... BC lied because he had strong read on Fishball and wanted RoL lynch to happen. Jackal was acting like he was a DT to make Scum hit him... I don't know if real medic protected someone else or citi.zen,he should protect Jackal.. unless he is a scum medic of course...
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Yeah,without Veteran part I'd probably got killed and Jackal would be confirmed town alive.. I fucked up..
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I think Sandroba and ilj hardcore lurk and should be dealt with. I heard LSB claimed Chez is green? Then Sandroba/ilj lynches are proper enough.. sigh.
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I think ilj is 100% scum, but since Chez is cleared... that makes sandroba instant scum.
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Yeah citi.. I'd rather see Sandroba lynched and Chez killed.
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On July 05 2011 08:19 sandroba wrote: LOL wtf Palmar you are playing like ace. You say I'm scummy for no fucking reason then keep pushing that thought until people start agreeing with you. I'm not scum. Scum is Chezinu and kurumi or ilovejonn and LSB. If there's a third scum still alive then it's palmar for sure. no
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Thanks Sandroba for outing the GF
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On July 05 2011 08:36 sandroba wrote: That was a compliment on your scum play btw. You will not get away with it this time. no
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Just FYI,this is the moment You should give us information from PMs You gathered through entire game.. WAIT YOU WERE JUST LURKING IN CLOSED SETUP WITHOUT PMS LOL
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##unvote ilovejonn ##vote sandroba
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On July 06 2011 03:37 Palmar wrote: ? we're fucked bro,we're fucked,we just let the game end in lurker mylo...
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Well,assuming sandroba was scum and another scum is ilj we have this game in a bag.
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On July 06 2011 21:16 Palmar wrote: yeah, now we just have to lynch you. oh cmon ilj is scum I am dead sure he is,sandroba even slipped that there are 2 mafia left!
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Yeah , if we indeed have 2 scum left it is chez and ilj
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On July 07 2011 02:06 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2011 01:44 Palmar wrote: Now, the only way I can trust you guys is if you pinky-swear that you are not part of the evil mafia.
*reaches out his pinky* So who is the "evil" mafia? How does one become a "part" of them? And how will you cut someone's pinky off if they break the promise? "9. Betting items outside of the game in exchange for in-game benefits." I can't put my pinky on the line. Know this: I'm town-aligned. We are lynching ilj before You. If he flips scum and game does not end, it is You.
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I false claimed. Also I disagree with shooting You tonight, I'd rather see ilj dead.
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go town, we've got this game in a bag!
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My thoughts on Closed Casket Mafia 1. Mafia did nothing to win this game Why? Two major errors made by town gave them the game - Caller trolling(mostly lying) and ilj's shady role claim. Also deciding on hits on N0(and other ones, with claims too -_-) couldn't be easier: Tier 1 (most likely to get hit, not in particular order) : Caller, GGQ, Fishball, LSB, BloodyC0bbler, Amber[LighT] (notice that only BC is the VT) Tier 2 (might get hit based on reads) : Chezinu, Scamp, Jackal58, ilovejonn, Tier 3 (new players, would never got hit) Palmar, VisceraEyes, Kurumi The scum's game was just shooting vets and getting free blues too, I tried to attract shots asking some dumb questions about Coroner to get hit - getting perhaps Coroner Kurumi is worse than getting Vanilla Townie BloodyC0bbler, still. 2. Chezinu and Caller are amazing players Really, Chez had amazing reads, but his case was never brought up. I was against lynching Chezinu as You know - because ilj stinked scum like heck and after his flip maybe we'd think what should be next. Caller dug his own grave - but was resilient and uncontrollable by anyone. I am sad these players did not try to influence the town more - especially Chezinu. 3. Giving every Mafia Member a role is dumb Seriously? Scumdoc is like roleblocker on vigilante, scum team had a Roleblocker and roleblocker for DTs - Lawyer. Scumteam had 2aKP(anti-KP), the same amount as town. Also the Janitor role.. Giving scum even more information than they need.. Amazing. Just think how it'd go without Caller shooting GM and getting Roleblocker N0. Conclusion Setup favored scum heavily, town had really no option to play high risk - high reward style, role distribution played out terribly, I am angry at ILJ and myself - because the only thing I could do entire game is to try attract the hits(and failing), lie and pick on shady roleclaim.. I didn't notice how citi.zen was lurking (I was suspicious of Amber because of that) and couldn't think logically - why the heck last scum would get replaced when it can't win? Modkill would be fair and fast.
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Oh another thing learnt - re-read every claim carefully. Maybe I'd get something after re-reading citi.zen's claim, not only LSB's and ILJ's.
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Why I didn't get modkilled then too? @_@
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The amount of blue roles wasn't that big of a deal - the people who had them were the problem. Very good players had blue roles - mafia would kill them anyway only because they were good.
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Why ruin such a good thread, we have those WaW and Sengoku threads already T_T
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