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Each Faction has a gimmick in the name of their players. Only the country and the leader of each country will be revealed here until players start dying What do you mean with a gimmick in the name of their players? This is going to be one chaotic game :3 | ||
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Medic and medic related roles, mafia will most likely shoot confirmed townies/people that are very likely town, protect them. This will make it way harder for the mafia to pick good targets and will encourage the blues to be pro town, etc.Forces mafia to kill lurkers/not so pro town people if they want to get a guaranteed kill. Now here is an interesting bit: If we have a confirmed scum by either a DT claim or obvious slip etc etc etc, he will get nuked and the town lynches someone else Why? This is an information game, Mafia will just bus the obvious scum and we waste one day of perfectly good information. With other words lynching the guy wont give us any clues to who else is scum. But this will only apply in the rare situation someone is very clearly scum. That seems to be the perfect situation for the use of nukes, and lets use them sparsely otherwise. (that means if there is a lot of doubt about him we just lynch the guy, if even the mafia stopped defending we nuke him, not wasting our lynch) Now lets make another rule, No Green lists. Seriously this shit only helps mafia, by giving them targets and giving them something innocent to discuss. Dont. Agreed? | ||
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Its the only thing that will really help us, option 3 is just pure pessimism. If we cant control our trigger finger its gg regardless and will #3 only buy us time. Option 2 seems viable but it wont hurt the mafia the tiniest bit to lose 3 nukes, since they are with about 5-7 they have 10+ nukes. i cant think of a situation where they would miss 3 nukes In the current (good) atmosphere nukes are suicide bombs, there is no way a scum will be able to launch his second nuke. (the one which is probably taken away if #2 goes through) Also i think GM is a conspirator, he wants people to do a daily nuke, dont anti the revenge nuke, and just carry on. His whole plan is based on everyone casting his nuke, wtf man | ||
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Mataza what you are doing is terrible, you make GMarshal look sane. As far as im concerned Conspirators have NO priority by now. Lets please focus on scum now we got some discussion going. | ||
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On July 05 2011 22:32 Drazerk wrote: First of all thanks Caller for such a great mechanic for us to argue over... I fully agree with this we should just use the nukes as the majority see's it ( although I would personally have it a bit higher % or scum may be able to vote swing it if we have undecided townies around ) this way we don't fall into the conspirator's hand with all the nukes going off. As I do not have any nukes I will put my trust in those that do and hope they do not screw it up. On July 06 2011 02:29 Drazerk wrote: I sort of agree Provided if everyone sticks to our plan we should not see any nukes fired for a long time making option 2/3 pretty pointless, I would rather have 2-3 Confirmed veterans running around ( Also presuming they maintain their abilities ) than the mafia not being able to use 3 nukes they wasn't able to use anyway. Also Caller you are a true baller for giving us these campaign options. ##:Operation Dunkirk On July 06 2011 03:31 Drazerk wrote: Caller you are a man of great knowledge and I thank you for pointing us on the right path. With this in mind the only real reason we would now chose options 2/3 is if the radiation levels get to high but we are able to keep under control pretty easily provided we stick to GM's plan. | ||
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On July 06 2011 22:42 Navillus wrote: Hi people I'm back for 1 quick post and will be back in full in a few hours, but we need to keep hard to our policy, the point of policies is that no one can break them without being taken out instantly and with full town backing, this will prove to mafia that they cannot fire nukes and live, otherwise they will, not might, will follow mataza's example and we will get a shitstorm of nukes. Frankly we have a really really good policy going and should be suspicious of anyone trying to break it, and should make it as difficult as we possibly can to weaken or get rid of this policy, this means we have to lynch mataza. In the mean time move on to other analysis while we wait for him to die fuck policy he just nuked out of nowhere. It shouldnt take a policy to take him out. However we made a mistake. Voting on him is the dumbest thing we can do. This is whats going to happen : we lynch him, he will flip black or red, i dont care. Next day we wake up AND WE HAVE NOTHING. No information is going to be gained today, Mafia will just Happily bandwagon along with the rest of the town. We have to nuke him. Not only that but we also have to kill his nuke, because if it is going to hit and Sandy loses it its over. Lets not screw ourselves over and start day 2 with no information, The WLR stays the same but we at least kill this stupid bandwagon. | ||
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On July 06 2011 23:52 Drazerk wrote: Caller is a great man. There is no point in having a Policy if we don't enforce it as Conspirators / scum will just abuse the mechanics too much and see us all dead im all about enforcing the policy, but we shouldnt do that by lynching the guy. He should be nuked since policylynches are Mafia heaven, all mafia will blend in and keep whatever the town has to work with to an absolute zero. If this goes through we will be talking about not using nukes on day 2 as well, which would screw us over tremendously. | ||
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On July 06 2011 23:57 GMarshal wrote: Yep, I'm scum because I thought extra lives didn't apply to nukes, great catch. You realize you are FoSing pretty much every vocal player out there, right? The people that talk can be worrisome, sure, but right now we have to worry about those who aren't talking. If you think i'm scum I welcome any case you may have, otherwise don't just say "is scum for wanting to destroy mafia nukes" that seems to make little sense. I know your active lurking and very defensive by know, but more interesting stuff has happened than what syllo said about you, what are your thoughts on the situation? Lynch or nuke ? Anti or dead sandy? chaos13? | ||
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On July 07 2011 01:08 Ciryandor wrote: I'll answer all your accusations one by one: First, this is MY FIRST GAME, so if I'm not going to be as contributory as you should think a townie would be, then you have my complete naiveté with regards to TL Mafia's meta to thank for. This makes me emphasize having the voice of reason and economy of speech so townies can think straight and not be emotionally swayed. Next, I specifically said that we shouldn't be throwing around nukes, unless we want multiple people to die on the same day because I don't want the Conspirator getting any more rad points than we can spare, i.e. conservation of firepower versus scum so we don't hit his win condition when we've got them all lined up because of their actions. Once again, I emphasize in shorter form for everyone why one option is better than another. Not everyone can dig out the core of people's arguments for or against certain actions quickly, I try to provide some clarity instead of leaving them in the dark. As for the vote, I voted without leaving a reasoning behind because it's self evident that if we want to implement the no nukes rule that the town has agreed upon. So if it happens that we agree on launching a nuke at Mataza for his irresponsibility, and have someone else lynched, I am willing to volunteer my nuking services to protect the town. dont you think nuking is better, since thats the only way to get a proper lynch? Mafia will try to stay out of the spotlight as much as possible so if we force them to do a meaningful vote we get some good slips. for example skim through XL where the votes were basicly lists of mafia members if you combined them, now in this situation the votes will give just a list of townies, with mafia blend in. | ||
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On July 07 2011 01:38 youngminii wrote: HAHAHAHAHA watching drazerk post is the funniest part of this game so do we want to save gmarshal or not as long as he plays protown i dont care if hes conspirator or not. Also since you made it clear at the start of the game you want to nuke, go ahead and nuke Mataza, for freedom | ||
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I expect nice votes with explanation of who you think is scum. Lets get this going, the mafia is laughing at us atm, lets hang them for that. Also hunting conspirators wont help us at all, since their win condition is unrelated to the being alive. | ||
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On July 06 2011 09:44 sandroba wrote: Okay, I'm going to try to explain this once more, very slowly. When balancing a game the host takes into consideration the number of night kills by mafia compared to the number of people playing the game. The more lynches we have per day the less kill mafia has. That's easy and simple, anyone refusing to see this should take a step back and think it through again. If we push this to the limit we have all lynches in one day and no mafia night kills. With most players in the game being town aligned you can see how it's extremelly dificult for mafia to win. This game has a deterrent to that though, which is the conspirator. It prevents us from simply nuking all players and having infinite "lynches" per day. Also there is the time constraint, each day having 48hrs prevents us from discussing and agreeing on multiple targets per day. Nevertheless it IS extremelly advantageous to town to lynch more than one player per day, and making it 2 per day is a conservative way to prevent conspirator from winning and leaving enough time for discussion. It's ridiculous to argue otherwise. "Mafia can influence the lynch and kill more town players per day". Yes they can, but they also have COMPLETE control over their night kills and the lynch is our main weapon to defeat mafia. It really comes to skill from town as a whole vs skill from mafia when determining the outcome of a lynch, but it tends to favor town as town always has more players. With that out of the way let me explain to all of you why Palmar is NOT town-aligned this game: If you have not followed the discussion from when I the plan initially came up till now I sugest you do so. When I first proposed my plan, palmar said it was terrible and he wanted "individual thinking" from town. First let me say that Scum absolutelly does not want us to use the plan. It fucks them in many ways and it fucks them hard. So what's scum behaviour in that scenario? They want to dismiss it, but they want to do so without drawing uneeded suspicion onto them. It would be foolish for them to start attacking the plan hard before it even gets momentum. And that's exactly what palmar does: Bear in mind that Palmar claimed later to have 0 nukes. He wants independent though from "pros and great analystis" while putting blind faith on their aligment. Needless to say that has lead to disaster in all previous games using a similar setup. Also we still have blue roles who have night actions (the equivalent of vigs/medics/dts, we did in previous games and if we don't in this game palmar has no reason to believe that's the case), and it's completely up to them how to use them. Lets look at this other post shall we: In RTM where Palmar was town aligned, he strived to take leadership, took scumhunting into his own hands while trying to keep town focused (even if he was wrong about he's suspects sometimes). He refused to deposit blind faith in anyone and kept scum on their toes all game. Lets look at the results: It produced a ton of good information, which allowed players to be extremelly acurate with their blue powers and lynches and became the one of the most one sided town victories so far in this forum. We can't say it didn't work out for him, quite the oposite. Now in this game, we not only see a complete 180 in his mentality, but also a change that's extremelly pro-mafia and anti-town, judging by not only mine, but his own standards: He doesn't want leadership and wants to trust in players that, if he was town aligned, he would have no knowledge of their aligment. That's only going to lead into dozens of nukes being fired at random and most of the hits will be townie deaths. Mafia knows who their players are so they can use their nukes/counter-nukes strategically while we cannot. That's a extremelly mafia favored field. He compares nukes to vigilante shots when everyone and their mother knows they are NOTHING simillar. As a town this makes absolutely no sense, but as mafia it sure as hell does. Lets move on to later in the discussion. The plan starts gaining strengh and many players start agreeing with it. When Palmar notices this he starts to opose it more vocally since mafia is absolutelly screwed if we agree on this. His arguments are that we should not trust the town circle, which is clear bullshit when everyone is allowed to vote on the targets and that players should be allowed to use independent thought. But look at this, it's not like palmar wants to take matters into his own hands and nuke scum. He has no fucking nukes (at least he claims). He wants to blindly trust other players to make their decisions on who to nuke. That's not the town aligned Palmar which we all know, which would have jumped on the opportunity of having two lynches per day and kick scum's sorry ass, by trying to lead town based on his beliefs. All this so far 100% proves that palmar is not town aligned this game. But lets continue so you can notice Palmar change in behaviour. Suddenly I pop in the thread and say I know he's scum and have all the info I need to prove it (presented above). From this moment on Palmar gradually changes his opinion from "terrible plan" to "really decent plan" and he abandons his previous beliefs for the terrible reasoning "my previous plan does not allow role claims". As GM pointed out roles have absoulutelly no bearing on aligment, and that alone should never be enough for you to change your mind about something you were fighting so strongly against. This only makes sense as a desperate attempt by scum to remedy their complete exposure and try to hide again. Palmar has already shown us his true colors and now is trying to back down like a misbehaved child providing weak excuses (something town palmar would never do). PALMAR IS SCUM ##Vote: Palmar ##Dunkirk Operation We are using his plan, also most of his posting is really constructive and in depth. He was one of the first to start posting analysis and accusations. | ||
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Btw i think conspirators have no priority at all. Unless they have 10 nukes i see no reason in hunting them. | ||
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Back when GM came around with policies you was always there for me to bring a smile on my face, remembering that there is such a thing as Joy in a mafia game. Not only that but you also were the one who remembered how to shoot Nukes. The following song will always remember me of you. It is our song. + Show Spoiler + The pure emotion spatting of it, is the only thing that can, and ever will describe how i feel about you. | ||
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On July 07 2011 03:05 youngminii wrote: the WRL stayed the same i did you all a favour and you want to lynch me this doesn't even make sense, this town is terrible Chaos13 seems scum to me, dont blaim the entire town for what a few scumbuddies are telling each other. | ||
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By now you should know that we are not all flying super vigilantes. we GOT TO GET OUR SHIT TOGETHER. Stop nuking, everyone who casts a nuke from now on will get nuked themselves. If GM is scum we will vote for him and just barely lynch him. Then we he flips red we can see who didnt vote for him, Nuking is extremely anti town If he turns green can examine who voted for him and why they voted. I will nuke the next guy who is going to nuke, if they dont have a town majority. No hesitation, no thinking just 2 bolded words Now lets play this as a no nuke game, nukes are only used to kill the guy who nukes, mutual destruction and a normal mafia game. | ||
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On July 07 2011 03:16 Mataza wrote: Btw, there is no imminent Nuclearmageddon. I and Youngminii are the only loose cannons here. Stop talking about it. It´s not even close to happening. 2 people is not chaos, it is to be *expected*. You can start talking about doomsday if multiple people talk about relentless nuking, which imho nobody does. By the way, an interesting bit right here. These are actually 4 consecutive posts. Actually this says everything itself, but since it is cool to summarize quotes: First YM is for not nuking me. He then makes sure evryone is aware he has no idea what´s happening, even thought it´s not that complicated. Then TAA practically says "Finish him." YM answers with the sassy "Yeah, my opinion from 4 minutes ago is worthless now because you said i should nuke, so I´m gonna nuke" This should be the strangest moment in the game if you don´t consider my posts. YM changed his opinion by 1 post saying he should nuke. TAA told him to nuke me. Suck gas, evildoer. FoS TheAwesomeAll Don´t let this guy get away like he is not part of it. I think he reffered to the nuke not being landed, so he could anti it out of the air and launch a counter nuke, which is exactly what we discussed before. This thread changed into a shitstorm so quick, mafia is messing with us. Look, this what happened: we discuss and we vote and conclude we better nuke Mataza instead of lynching him Mataza makes a mess, get antied the shit out of NO BIG DEAL All of the sudden YM gets FOSed and then this shit happens : On July 07 2011 03:08 GMarshal wrote: See we were going to happily lynch Mataza, and then not fire nukes as we had decided, the possibility of nuking Mataza was being debated and argued, with people voting for or against, we had like 5 votes for and 4 against or something, we were reaching a town consensus. Then you were like "oh, fuck what the rest of the town thinks, I'll just do my own thing" and fired. How is that doing us a favor? You stole discussion and raised the radiation level, if you are town you also ensured your own death and wasted a countermissile. Thanks, but if those are the types of favors you intend on doing you can refrain. On July 07 2011 00:34 GMarshal wrote: Also, VOTE TIME. We all agree Mataza needs to be killed. We can nuke him and use the lynch on someone else, so lets have a vote, if I can get 15 people to agree in time we nuke Mataza, otherwise we lynch. So vote in the following way I vote to nuke Mataza On July 07 2011 00:17 GMarshal wrote: I prefer a nuke, but the town seems deadset on a lynch, and I want to avoid Mataza launching retaliatory strikes, so I suppose the lynch is the way to go, although we should start discussing tomorrow's nuke/lynch target. Anti or dead, I think that whoever is holding the anti-nuke should make that decision. Do they think that sand is town enough to expend what might be our only insurance against doomsday? I think its a judgment call on whoever has it, if they have many and are likely to be night killed soon, then yes shoot away, if they have almost none and are immune to night kills, well then perhaps holding on to it is better. Chaos13 seems to me to be doing what he did in RTM, I like how he wants to keep discussion focused. Want more from him though I hardly call what I'm doing active lurking, I'm just not as active as usual. I did warn you guys early on (pregame) NOT to apply meta to me this game, I'm trying something completely different, again if you think I'm scum point to why, not to meta. 10 points for every contradiction you can find | ||
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On July 07 2011 03:32 Mataza wrote: There is no contradiction TAA. GM wanted to vote(emphasis here). Then someone played renegade executioner at your command. GM looks like he always does(since he was not in the mood to troll a caller game, lol)# ##Unvote: Palmar ##Vote: TheAwesomeAll Keep in mind that the votes where 6-2 while reading the following On July 07 2011 00:17 GMarshal wrote: I prefer a nuke, but the town seems deadset on a lynch, and I want to avoid Mataza launching retaliatory strikes, so I suppose the lynch is the way to go, although we should start discussing tomorrow's nuke/lynch target. Anti or dead, I think that whoever is holding the anti-nuke should make that decision. Do they think that sand is town enough to expend what might be our only insurance against doomsday? I think its a judgment call on whoever has it, if they have many and are likely to be night killed soon, then yes shoot away, if they have almost none and are immune to night kills, well then perhaps holding on to it is better. Chaos13 seems to me to be doing what he did in RTM, I like how he wants to keep discussion focused. Want more from him though I hardly call what I'm doing active lurking, I'm just not as active as usual. I did warn you guys early on (pregame) NOT to apply meta to me this game, I'm trying something completely different, again if you think I'm scum point to why, not to meta. On July 07 2011 03:08 GMarshal wrote: See we were going to happily lynch Mataza, and then not fire nukes as we had decided, the possibility of nuking Mataza was being debated and argued, with people voting for or against, we had like 5 votes for and 4 against or something, we were reaching a town consensus. Then you were like "oh, fuck what the rest of the town thinks, I'll just do my own thing" and fired. How is that doing us a favor? You stole discussion and raised the radiation level, if you are town you also ensured your own death and wasted a countermissile. Thanks, but if those are the types of favors you intend on doing you can refrain. 2 lies and 1 contradiction, chaos be honest, did you even try? + Show Spoiler + since YM antied no radiation was risen, only one careless nuker was removed. Also that was Exactly what i was pushing for. now can we please have a decent lynch? Do your homework guys, im off. | ||
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On July 07 2011 04:10 GMarshal wrote: I am laughing so hard right now. i could keep my face straight until kurumi came in | ||
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On July 08 2011 03:37 syllogism wrote: TAA's style is completely different from his uber aggressive style in RTM. Recommended reading. I still have some tests to make, tomorrow is vacation though. Also i dont want to die on day one again :< | ||
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excuse me for not doing this first, Will this prevent nukes or something? | ||
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On July 09 2011 06:58 syllogism wrote: You will find out tomorrow, perhaps you should stop role fishing lol, only the french dude has acces to google? | ||
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On July 09 2011 07:18 syllogism wrote: So google it, instead of giving away free info dude, you just told mafia about google, now they know close to anything. Youre either dumb or scum. | ||
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On July 09 2011 07:27 GMarshal wrote: Noooo! Now the mafia know about the INTERNET! Quickly, no one mention things like "the wheel" or "fire" or they may be able to advance technologically! @Opz- I don't really have an opinion on decon, he's lurking, but so are 5-6 other people. Like gtrs, remember him? hey hey hey, dont ridicule Syllo's reasoning, he thought long and hard about those posts, lets give him credit for that. | ||
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If you are town and we are going to lynch you the Mafia would blend in *again* and we would start day3 as we started day1 and day2, with no actions to work with. The mafia would just carry on with lurking and disrupting and they would not stand out. YM if you let it come to a lynch against you it is your own fault, and you would screw the town over and put us in a really bad position. Also you claimed you have 2 lives, which makes the one nuke being fired at you do nothing, but there is absolutely no way that you could let this come to a lynch. It is sad, no matter what your role is you screwed up and are going to die. If you are town however you could do us a last favor and not waste another lynch. Thats why I ask you, if you are town, to nuke yourself. | ||
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On July 09 2011 19:38 Ciryandor wrote: That sounds very conspiratorial to me, as that basically forces a nuke out to increase rads. Why can't you just ask him to be blatantly honest in his player readings, get him lynched, and see where he flips? I'd rather have some sort of analysis whether BSed or not than not squeeze him for information. Same thing with Sandroba, since they're both up by the bloody wall, I want to hear his analysis as well so we can all start poking holes and shit on it. 1) mafia wants to bandwagon 2) this lynch is absolutely worthless since no one is defending him, so he is either town or the mafia is going to sack him 3) we will have no information, since either everyone is wrong or everyone is right 4) he is nuked 5) we will have a discussion and get a lynch with a ton of information 6) conspirator has no priority, he has already claimed in fact (forgot who it was though) 7) you are scum | ||
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On July 09 2011 23:36 GMarshal wrote: Hmm, I'm reserving judgment until I see what the axis campaigns are. Also I nominate gtrs to be nuked failing that I suppose a lynch will do. thats just upping the WRL, GM i know you can do better... Has GTRSR posted at all? Please give some reasons or analysis. | ||
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##vote: GMarshal http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=237920¤tpage=41#818 blatant lying on day one, not on my watch | ||
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On July 10 2011 01:20 Drazerk wrote: Captain planet would be happy... If it wasn't for that other nuke in flight what other nuke? | ||
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On July 10 2011 01:25 sandroba wrote: TAA time to name claim. You too drazerk, also stop the spam pls. Douglass Boreder | ||
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On July 10 2011 01:37 deconduo wrote: I don't belive TAA's claim. should get a DT check on him tonight or something. wtf, im a veteran that started living a boring live and now i cant do shit because i have no legs | ||
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On July 10 2011 01:38 Drazerk wrote: It was a joke, I was getting annoyed by all the nukes and people listen to captain planet. drazerk if you go on with this i start doubting you are really captain planet. | ||
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On July 10 2011 01:51 youngminii wrote: too many british me coag drazerk taa deconduo ? also, why did deconduo's name claim include 'sir' when drazerk's didn't? host slip up or scum slip ok, you say 5 is an unlikely high number of british people, and say one of us is probably fake, good reasoning, so far so good. Now it turns out you already exist, and you essentially claimed someone else's role. Only if i could connect the dots... | ||
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On July 10 2011 02:18 sandroba wrote: Not necessarily someone is lying, and if someone is I would assume it to be TAA. Let's assume only one chinese as per syllo theory. That leaves 4 factions to distribute a lot of townies, not necessarilly evenly. Let's not jump to conclusions. Winston claim is pretty balsy, so he's prob town. JeeJee and Curu where is your claim? @curu I'll answer any questions you ask if you claim your name. You have needlessly outted that you have a power role, but you refuse to share your name? Why is that? From what you claimed so far your name should have no barring on your power. 29-6= 23 23-2=21 21/4=5.25 atm we have YM getting counted as british, while he claimed a name that already existed. Also i can proof quite easily that im british, since im a veteran and i got that extra live i have 3 lives atm, and i can miss one np. nuke:TheAwesomeAll | ||
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On July 10 2011 02:37 syllogism wrote: That's terrible and doesn't prove anything. We can't tell if it's a dud or know if your real role has extra lives or resistance. Also vote Opz I think only conspirators have no nukes, and i didnt fire a nuke yet this game. And yes my role has one additional live, im a ww1 veteran. | ||
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On July 10 2011 06:17 syllogism wrote: TAA's nuke didn't actually launch because he formatted it wrong wait what? | ||
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On July 10 2011 19:14 syllogism wrote: TAA's town play has been previously very aggressive, but in this game he hasn't been doing anything, allegedly because he is busy. I've no idea why Opz chose to nuke me over deconduo, given his history with him and my play today. He also way overreacted to there being a few votes on him i was only busy for a couple of days, its mostly because the scum dont really stand out to the town atm. Too much chaos and bandwagons going on, and when i tried to clean town up a bit it only caused more chaos | ||
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On July 11 2011 00:27 gtrsrs wrote: hey guys! sorry i was homeless for about the last week i'm back now. holy hell 118 pages! i'm going to assume i was modkilled somewhere in those many pages. i'm really sorry there was terrible timing for everything. hope the game is going well you are alive | ||
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I will just list all the people who are being nuked for convenience's sake. prplhz is nuking Misder Drazerk is nuking GGQ GGQ is nuking PaqMan PaqMan is nuking Mr Wiggles and Mig I have attempted to redirect the nuke aimed at me to kita. Mig is nuking kurumi Misder is nuking JeeJee Wiggles is nuking Drazerk Opz is nuking Syllogism JeeJee is nuking Zona Zona is nuking JeeJee opz is leading the lynch and syllo is considering to nuke him, | ||
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On July 11 2011 00:29 TheAwesomeAll wrote: and the game is going terrible I will just list all the people who are being nuked for convenience's sake. prplhz is nuking Misder Drazerk is nuking GGQ GGQ is nuking PaqMan PaqMan is nuking Mr Wiggles and Mig I have attempted to redirect the nuke aimed at me to kita. Mig is nuking kurumi Misder is nuking JeeJee Wiggles is nuking Drazerk Opz is nuking Syllogism JeeJee is nuking Zona Zona is nuking JeeJee Syllo is nuking Opz | ||
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On July 11 2011 00:31 ~OpZ~ wrote: Please nuke me. Im french. Maginot line makes frenchies nuke immune. Dunno why mataza wNted leynaud tp die. Dunno how long it is to build tho...posting on phone. Mixed you and sandy up. I would ofgot lynched. Didn't have time to defend and hunt. Don't care anymore. Sandrobas posting just pisses me off. Kinda weird. that name claiming was 100 percent bullshit, now we lose the line builder. In retrospect nameclaiming was 100 percent blue fishing On July 10 2011 05:55 heist wrote: Coagulation who are you? Claim now, your rolename. No softclaiming King Borege. Say it outright. On July 10 2011 13:36 heist wrote: How about this for the lynch? We lynch whoever lives from all the nukes? ##Nuke:heist | ||
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do you disagree? We got town now being nuked because they had to stay low and couldnt name claim, now can you tell me how many scum weve succesfully demasked because of name claims? Does this tell you something about the people pushing name claims? name claims are just a shitty excuse to nuke innocents, which only scum would want. | ||
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On July 11 2011 01:03 prplhz wrote: it's time people start flipping so i can launch again yeah... no. | ||
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On July 11 2011 16:13 Curu wrote: TAA: Why did you nuke heist? What in the world is your reason? Looks like he just jumped on the everyone is nuking I can too without being suspected bandwagon. You've also been fairly useless and unconvicted of trying to lynch anyone. Did you even read my post? Heist pushed for name claims and as a result we are getting our french guy nuked, purely based on name claims. you know what pushing for name claims is? blue fishing, in its purest and simplest form, and it should stop. | ||
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On July 11 2011 06:35 heist wrote: I'm sick of no one listening when i was telling everyone to hold their nukes. prplhz calm down. its just a game. I had no intention of nuking you. I just wanted people to nuke TTA. Just so everyone wins. ##nuke: TheAwesomeAll He claims 3 lives. He even "tried" to nuke himself. He'll still have 2 lives if he's not lying. Ok i will make my case. On July 11 2011 05:56 heist wrote: So I am tentatively going to nuke prplhz provided no one has any serous objections. Among other things, I really do not like how he is proclaiming GMarshall's innocence in every post. no one made an objection, he just lied straight up here. Which in my opinion is enough reason to nuke him, if town is going to lie there is no way at all to find scum. Thats why he either is scum or playing Extremely anti town. And then there is this: On July 11 2011 02:37 heist wrote: Sry Drazerk it doesn't work like that. Alright I'm going to be completely upfront about this and about my role in the hopes someone will save me. There is one thing I left out. Only three possible people can be the hero. I was really hoping to catch scum claim as Roosevelt, but as of now it's more important that I survive to night time to initiate. Hopefully I'm not the only one who can initiate. SUP BRAH! Your Brahglus Mackarthar of BRAHMERICA. When the cripple stumbles to his knees and draws his final breath, the heavens shall open up and the wail of a thousand angels shall fill the air. And in his stead, chosen by trial of man, a new hero shall emerge, ordained by Heaven itself to seek justice The hand of God shall bestow upon the hero two fiery arrows to burn thy enemies Their mirth shall turn to ash, their eternal souls shall flounder in righteous fire And the archangel himself shall surrender his armor, believed to reflect all mortal metal. Vengeance shall flow swift and terrible. If trial precede death, perhaps a sacrifice be required? You want to become brahsidient of the Fraternal States. As such, you may force a brahsidential election for the beginning of the next day, which is a third vote in addition to lynch and campaign votes. The higher of you or Franklin Brosevelt/Hairy Broman becomes the next brahsident, and if the winner would be lynched, the lynch is negated. If the player that is Frank Brosevelt player has not died yet, he dies of Brolio. You win with allies. You have a single nuke. On July 11 2011 02:50 Caller wrote: stop posting shit that looks like pms or else im going to be unhappy I cant believe he got away with that, but it illustrates the terrible chaos he has set up. And this was an obvious slip imo: On July 10 2011 13:36 heist wrote: How about this for the lynch? We lynch whoever lives from all the nukes? we by now know that brits will survive nukes, its save to say that every fraction has some kind of veteran/nuke immunity. Now, if you were to survive by an anti, being a vet, or whatever, do you want us to lynch us? Such a bad bandwagon/policy lynch would only benefit the mafia, and it would benefit the mafia greatly. Here is another contradiction On July 09 2011 15:34 heist wrote: sigh..... seriously guys, no more nukes. JeeJee don't you dare. On July 11 2011 06:35 heist wrote: ##nuke: TheAwesomeAll On July 09 2011 09:43 heist wrote: ALSO NO MORE NUKES. PRETEND WE HAVE WATCHTOWER. JeeJee I doubt you would have nuked if you didn't have anti-nukes to waste on yourself (if you are telling the truth). YOU do not have antinukes. WE, the TOWN, has anti-nukes. Please don't treat them as your personal nuke med kit. One last thing. I think YM is town. Sure, no one claimed his anti-nuke, but given its power I can understand. Also the diverted target, Palmar, makes no sense for mafia. He was suspicious in a lot of the town's eyes and a popular lynch target. interesting flip flop you have going on there, this history of lying and blue fishing(see my other post for that) leading to some obvious miss nukes justifies my nuke. | ||
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On July 11 2011 21:50 Caller wrote: ~OpZ~ is dead, as is heist. Why? Well, it turns out that the "Taepodong" is in fact, NOT something you stick up your butt. Sounds like suicide to me | ||
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On July 11 2011 23:56 Drazerk wrote: Looks like it but I don't understand why he wouldn't wait until after the lynch of something. Then again Caller could be making it look like suicide to get revenge for the PM message thing so don't read to much into every flip. also - you did an analysis, SCUUUUUUUUUUM! ( If people take this serious I will cry ) Dude wtf, analysis= scum? obvious slip imo, ##vote:drazerk | ||
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On July 12 2011 00:02 GMarshal wrote: Thats It. DooMsday tiMe. ##Activate: FalI Blau See you All in hell. how is he confirmed town? | ||
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On July 12 2011 02:47 Caller wrote: The nuke aimed at TheAwesomeAll has exploded... but no effect? waitwaitwait, do i have additional lives? who would have guessed it... | ||
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On July 12 2011 03:51 Mig wrote: Yea considering Caller's last post I doubt I will be allowed to shoot. So really someone else please shoot kita. What about this? ##vote:Kitaman27 | ||
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On July 12 2011 04:34 Navillus wrote: kk, well I promised heist that I wouldn't vote Kita, not that I wouldn't nuke him, so ##Nuke Kitaman27 ##Vote TheAwesomeAll care to explain? | ||
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On July 11 2011 08:55 kitaman27 wrote: Yep, I can't be nuked and can re-launch any that land in the ocean. fyi kita claimed nuke immune. | ||
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On July 10 2011 11:24 GMarshal wrote: Also, I want to lynch sandroba, because he is a zombie, and then coag, because he claimed nuke proof and is also probably a zombie. Zombies don't enjoy delicious fried rice, hence they should be lynched. two very probable townies thrown under the bus for a very shitty reason, GM welcome to your very own analysis. On July 11 2011 02:02 GMarshal wrote: Zona, hit gtrs, he has the ideal excuse to lurk and we are never going to get a read on him anyway. I want to lynch sandroba, he claimed Zombie. I'm pretty sure zombies don't care about the town winning as long as they get to eat brains. and again... On July 11 2011 11:52 GMarshal wrote: Why not? Why so defensive mig? I find it... interesting that we have no issue believing in cyborg dinosaurs, aliens and zombies but an *ocean* is far fetched. I mean have *you* ever seen a giant body of water? defending kita, important stuff. also this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=237920¤tpage=41#818 On July 09 2011 23:49 GMarshal wrote: Lurking hardcore, this will encourage other lurkers to stop lurking and start posting. Its not like I can analyze all three of his posts and come up with any meaningful conclusions damnit. the obvious scum stuff, hitting lurkers so it doesnt matter if they flip green, since theyre lurking right right? no. also some other stuff On July 07 2011 07:45 GMarshal wrote: Oh the instigator is sandroba. Everything was in line until he nuked me. And you'd think the fact that he had a plan to avoid this would have kept him from triggering Armageddon. Apparently not. Don't forget town, don't forgive. Sandroba started this holocaust he is the principal responsible for this chaos and destruction, and single handedly responsible for the death of a townie (me). I GMarshal, command this town, suffer not the heretic, Sandroba to live. Burn him from this earth with the sacred fires of the nuke, pierce him with the keenness of the blade in the night, tighten the noose of rope around his neck. Purge Him! flipped town On July 07 2011 06:26 GMarshal wrote: i'm leaving you, kurumi and the new guy whos name has four letters and starts with a C in charge. Oh dear. Poor town. advocating kurumi On July 07 2011 05:40 GMarshal wrote: I'm getting nuked, might as well make the most of it, no? getting called out by mig and coag if kita flips scum i would definitely vote GM, any other questions? | ||
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Also i dont believe he saved mataza... (did he ? i think YM(he got temp banned btw) nuked mataz, then GM was like wow why you nuke? YM and GM exchanged some nukes and Mataz died, with the epic see you all thread) | ||
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On July 12 2011 05:50 Coagulation wrote: will there be radiation? nope, but dont anyway Houdini died from a punch in his stomach, since he had some illness in his stomach. Houdini was like you can punch me, but then he punched to fast and he wasnt ready. Now i most likely dont have some stomach sickness, but im getiting old and you just dont stomach punch old people, thats just wrong man. | ||
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dude, i didnt mind my 3rd live taken away, but thats already been done know. you guys want to take away my second live as well i didnt fake on purpose though, with caller involved (<3) thats kinda a big risk. | ||
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Im thinking your overestimating the survivability of the mafia a bit, Kita got rescued for a reason, namely that he would have died if that nuke landed. Youre taking your retaliation thought a bit too far imo, since antis are a very precious resource. Also Kita is getting lynched, no way that they would anti in the hope some other townie will nuke him, its just not going to happen. While I agree that if i was mafia and would like to kamikaze out id need another nuke so i can retaliate, but i have 0 nukes left and am not leading the lynch, so kamikaziing would make no sense whatsoever. Other than that good thinking. Oh and except for this ofc: On July 12 2011 06:41 Curu wrote: I'm inclined to believe much of the remaining scum team has nuke resistance especially since three have already died that didn't. That makes no sense at all, since every scum weve hit so far didnt do X and the other scum were hunting atm is being shielded from X the rest of the scum probably does X all the time. If there has been a pattern in nuke behaviour it is that they are dropping to nukes by the dozen. Maybe their GF has 2 lives or there is a scum veteran, but i dont think that presuming every mafia is nuke immune (incredibly and obviously op, dont make 'caller game' comments on this one) will get us Anywhere. | ||
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On July 12 2011 23:36 Curu wrote: wtf Conspirator won? WRL was like...4 and Caller confirmed that the day was no nukes. I am so confused. Original Name confirmed i thought | ||
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Also i found out that it sucks to be mafia since you cant really tunnel scum as much, and you can only tunnel townies. Also the town should have lynched GM imo, i made a pretty good case against him. MiG and draz WellPlayed, you guys were pretty good. A big mistake was the nuking kita | ||
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At that point it didnt even matter if you knew i was scum, all that matter was that as many townies died as soon as possible. And that as much of your nukes would be wasted. It was the best move in that situation imo, i knew it would probably mean town would know my alignment which was good since the more nukes i ate, the less nukes the town had. | ||
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On July 13 2011 02:51 syllogism wrote: People who only troll, and thus are worthless, should be policy lynched, is that supposed to be a good point for dismissing meta? It's not. Besides, it's not really meta when you know someone is capable of playing really when and in another game is pretending to be dumb and not doing anything. any form of policy lynch will favor mafia, this post is such a slip. Otherwise really well played, you contributed a LOT to the better atmosphere day2. On July 13 2011 02:58 Ace wrote: If only people actually did this. That's one of the major reasons I don't sign up for many games: people that play like shit on purpose and don't get punished for it by stupid Townies. Im sorry to hear that, but i think the host can just say: this is a no troll/lurk game. and they can say no to people who have a history of inactivity/lurking/trolling. | ||
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