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when are PMs gonna be out? | ||
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also some people maybe should fake muteness to protect snipers amirite | ||
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also, please stop with the fictional post restrictions ... jesus | ||
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what the fuck? | ||
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... this is the worst pressure i've ever seen | ||
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PM land is cool but post here too i don't like tnkted's plan but it's the only thing there is to talk about. dunno if towns should keep accepting shitty plans in the beginning of the game just for the sake of something to talk about. Mig's logic is sound but that's pretty boring. also, Palmar actually is scum this time | ||
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by all means, make your list, but keep it to yourself. | ||
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i don't understand that at all ... when the first sniper flips the second sniper is gonna have an explanation problem on his hands. | ||
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but maybe you'd rather we just roll over and get shot? i don't see how that would help us catch scum | ||
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can you clarify that or are you just throwing accusations around, hiding behind some supposedly well known fact that you suck until day3 and should just be left alive no matter what you do? | ||
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On September 29 2011 12:28 Incognito wrote: Dear town, please ignore wherebugsgo. If he starts making sense and stops making a bunch of baseless assumptions maybe I'll start listening to him. Until then, he's just taking up space and has 1/6 of all the posts in this thread. None of them are very interesting. Also stop using gimmicky words like "OMGUS" and "meta". They're mostly meaningless terms people tack onto their "analyses" to make them look legitimate. I am not going to tolerate this nonsense. Unless you make some real arguments I will just ignore you or squish you like a bug, depending on how ridiculous you are. Note that there is likely a lot of KP this game. Which should be fun if you are a vig, as there are plenty of nice juicy targets lying around. Don't be afraid of PMs. As long as you watch yourself and don't do anything stupid, there's no reason not to take advantage of this resource. Can mafia manipulate? If you keep a healthy dose of skepticism and firmly ground your reasoning in logic, it is actually difficult for mafia to manipulate you. In fact, mafia love it when they can see every little thing that is going on in the thread. While PMs have the reputation for being a playground for manipulation and devious scheming, you just have to back off and look at things objectively and you'll be fine. The main reason PMs are a huge benefit for the town is that it allows us to conceal our actions. In a no-PM game, the mafia have a very good idea of what people are thinking. Generally, most people will be on the wrong track, and occasionally a few will be on the right track. Since no information is withheld from them, they can accurately make informed decisions on night kills and general posting strategy in order to mislead the town and eliminate anyone who could possibly oppose them. If you skillfully use PMs, however, the mafia are unable to accurately judge how active and dangerous you actually are and will be forced to be proactive in PMs and in the thread in order to collect information. Of course, this is inherently uncomfortable for them, as it conflicts their inherent desire to hide. Everyone knows that "mafia start out with an information advantage over the town", but hardly anyone recognizes that mafia needs to maintain that advantage if they want to stay competitive as the game goes longer. Using a healthy dose of PMs makes it that much harder for them to stay on top of the ball. If anything, its easier to manipulate the mafia in PMs than the other way around. With that said, unless something interesting happens (please feel free to let me know if you find anything), I'll be moving to PM land for now. Be back after the day post. I can't say that I get this. First you correctly identify that the current activity in the thread (wbg v jack) is pretty useless and both are terrible lynches. Second you state that you're not gonna try to do anything sensible in this thread but retire to PM land because then mafia will not know how great you are and they will be forced to prod in PM land to get an idea about who to hit. ... but you also speculate that there are a ton of vigs and medics in this game (and your signature boasts of your impressive record of being saved by medics), wouldn't it be cool if you also hung out in the thread so that vigs and medics can get an idea about what you've achieved in PM land and get inspiration for their targets? Also you seem to advocate that people do most of their business in PM land because hidden information makes the mafia uneasy, but I don't like this too much, it looks like an excuse for 10 people coming out of nowhere bandwagoning a guy and then saying "derpa there are plenty of reasons in PM land", you need to make a case here. This seems heavily scum favored that you don't need to build a case and get everybody on board because scum can just strike from PM land. Kinda like what Radfield did in LotR, came out of nowhere 2 hours before deadline and got a townie lynched. Even did it twice. Don't get me wrong, PMs are cool and all, but you need to write something in the thread too, to get it down on record so people can get an accurate image of you and the people around you. | ||
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also don't you know that you can't paste mod pms don't you know anything | ||
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On September 29 2011 20:17 Forumite wrote: Putting it out there, I´d rather see the lynch being between Palmar and Curu than us lynching one either Jackal or WBG. so you don't care much who gets lynched, you just want to voice your support of a scenario with two bandwagons that you and your scum buddies can hop on to at leisure? | ||
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kenpachi lucidity incognito these guys need to say something in this thread right now. you can't just hide, it's 1 hour until deadline and combined you have one noteworthy post, which was incognito saying he wasn't going to be active in this thread. it's cool and all but you need to vote and you need to put something into this thread. | ||
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you make a big ass post about how baller pm land is and how you're going to spend your time here and then you come here, saying questionable stuff such as "the palmar lynch is terrible" (it isn't) and then you build a case NOT BASED ON PMS but on two silly posts from erandorr aren't you supposed to be good at this game or something? you say it in the god damn post "making a mistake doesn't make you scum" and then you highlight a mistake from a new player and say "oh he's definitely scum, not palmar who lies about arguments and hides when he's about to get lynched". do you really think that erandorr is better lynch than palmar? "my/his town play is scummy" is really no excuse for anything. | ||
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On September 30 2011 07:04 sinani206 wrote: i had to celebrate rosh hashana with my family you racist funniest. shit. ever. | ||
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that was totally baller and not at all scummy of you jack and forumite no wait a second,... that was totally scummy and not at all baller, yes that's what i meant i didn't like you from the beginning forumite, you're scum, jack has a long vendetta with wbg so i'm gonna cut him a little slack here | ||
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you are absolutely not making any sense at all to me. first, why did you decide to fake a vigi shot in the thread? was it for the lulz or did you actually have a reason for it? second, why do you want medic protect, don't you realize that most people probably think that you are scum right now? | ||
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On September 30 2011 07:39 Incognito wrote: In case you haven't noticed I replied to your post. Do you have anything else to add to our little discussion? yea we can talk about that On September 30 2011 06:56 Incognito wrote: Lol. I hope the first sentence is a joke, as there is no indication that I am "trying to start a bandwagon". I am just trying to point out things that nobody is talking about. Palmar is clearly about to be lynched, so I might as well move on. There isn't a strong enough case for me to defend him, but he isn't scummy enough for me to jump on the wagon and say "Yes! Plamar is 100% mafia" either. I never said the second statement. I am saying the case against him is questionable. Everyone is running around saying "Palmar is a great lynch" when it clearly isn't. Palmar isn't playing like his usual town OR usual mafia. Of course, if he survives this lynch I'll go back and examine his past games later when I have time. You all keep screaming "Lynch All Liars" which is one of those other buzzwords that have little meaning. The 3rd bolded statement is flat out a lie. I never said or even hinted that Palmar is 100% town. I'm curious that you have never actually contributed anything to the Palmar case except for this. And then you go beserk when I decide to vote for Erandorr instead of Palmar. If this isn't a blatant misrepresentation of my post, I don't know what is. Congratulations, you just became number 1 on my suspect list. first of all i asked you a question in my post which you didn't answer, except you just complained about everything else that i said. second, i heard that it's hard to be consistent as a scum player. this is because you have a hidden agenda so sometimes you say one thing, but you have to do another to work towards your secret plans. you have raged against meta all game: On September 29 2011 12:28 Incognito wrote: [...] Also stop using gimmicky words like "OMGUS" and "meta". They're mostly meaningless terms people tack onto their "analyses" to make them look legitimate. I am not going to tolerate this nonsense. Unless you make some real arguments I will just ignore you or squish you like a bug, depending on how ridiculous you are. [...] On September 30 2011 06:21 Incognito wrote: [...] Stop using throwing the word "meta" around. Townies are wrong all the time so this should NOT be a consideration for this lynch. [...] ... but yet you use it yourself. as wbg pointed out, the only reason you had for not voting palmar in favor of erandorr was because "palmar is known to look scummy as town" ... a meta argument. and you don't stop there: On September 30 2011 06:56 Incognito wrote: [...] Palmar isn't playing like his usual town OR usual mafia. Of course, if he survives this lynch I'll go back and examine his past games later when I have time. [...] and then there's this: On September 30 2011 06:57 Incognito wrote: Whoops sorry misread there. Should have been: "The 3rd bolded statement is flat out a lie. I never said or even hinted that Erandorr is 100% red." no you didn't and so what, are you so focused on proving me being wrong that you totally forget to look at what i'm trying to say? you voted erandorr because you allegedly thought he was more scummy than palmar, and i pretty much just tried to say that that was pretty weak. can't you talk about that instead of talking about "100%" and "definitely" and how i might be semantically wrong if what i say is interpreted literally? also, why aren't you trying to start a bandwagon? you say that there are definitely reasons to see why palmar is town, and yet you don't want people to rally around your scumread? you just want you and your read and your vote to be left alone or what? sounds scummy to me. finally, i don't really see that you're asking me any questions in your post. you're just stating that everything i say is wrong and then you ask me about my reaction, it's like you don't want to know my reads or my opinion on anything, you just want me to engage in a totally useless fistfight with you over semantics? best scumread ever: incognito's reputation (and his signature) makes him out to be a good mafia player but he's contributed absolutely nothing in this game, and he doesn't appear to be willing to change that. you said in your first post that PM land was awesome for town, did you achieve anything there yet that maybe people should hear about? okay this is totally the last thing 'cause this is turning into a text wall, why the hell did you tell sinani206 to kill me? am i really the biggest threat to town right now, seeing as i'm answering questions and staying active, contributing to lynches (yea thatthat wasn't much but it was spot on) and voting for scum? i'm posting this now 'cause apparently scum (incog) wants me dead so much that they've resorted to asking random mutes if they want to kill me. i don't see why 'cause i wasn't instrumental in palmar's demise at all. | ||
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scum has a habit of letting chaotic disruptive non contributory townies live and that's maybe the best protection you can get ... other than you actually being scum | ||
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blu sniper can hit at night but he does so anonymously through pms | ||
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your point being? i was confused too so i asked kita and he told me what i just relayed to you | ||
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because apparently i'm scummy in pm land ... i don't know about this but i think that this is pretty weird since i provided original analysis on palmar and voted and i've been on incognito's back all game and he appears to be kinda scummy right now according to a bunch of people. like i don't wanna die and we don't need vigs doing something crazy awesome, especially not if it just turns out to be crazy. we lynched scum on day1, it's 16-3 to town and we've got awesome reads on a bunch of people. don't be an idiot unless you feel you absolutely have to. also supersoft, who the hell thinks i'm scummy enough to warrant a vig hit? can't they post a case or something like everybody else, i don't think anybody has complained too much about me except incognito and what he managed to muster was pretty shabby. | ||
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i'm looking very much forward to that tomorrow is in 20 mins, make sure to be here | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + rofl@nisani | ||
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