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Bluelightz Bluelightz is playing without a worry in the world. The nature of most of his posts seems completely carefree. When a townie is confronted with suspicious imo they get nervous and tries to find where they messed up and try to explain it. Bluelightz just shrugs it of. + Show Spoiler + On January 05 2012 21:36 Bluelightz wrote: Okay here's the continuation of my reads Errandor, Null: Lurking cannot determine alignment Grackaroni, Null: His posting contains his case against me and discussing about the lurkers in this game. HarbingerOfDoom, Null/Leaning Town: His posting contains discussion of strategy for town, Discussing LA-Lurkers Jackal58, Null: 2 posts since the start of the game cannot determine alignment. Layabout, Leaning Town: When I compare when Layabout was town in Student and if he is town here his posting style is much the same being aggressive and starting discussion Mr.Wiggles, Leaning Town: His posts while not alot has very good content. Palmar, Leaning Town/Null: His post's generate discussion and he starts discussion himself. RebirthOfLeGenD, Null: Lurking cannot determine alignment. Refallen, Null: His posts contain discussion about the lurkers,etc risk.nuke, Null: Has not posted alot syllogism, Leaning Town/Null: His post's generate discussion and he also shares his reads with others. Tyrran, Null: While lurking a little I can't determine his alignment xsksc, Null: Needs to start posting Zepphird, Null: His post's discuss about LA-Lurkers and strategy Okay I'm done if you have a question about my reads go for it ! Now, I have many town reads because this is day 1 and also people haven't posted much(including me) So, here it is! + Show Spoiler + On January 05 2012 05:08 Bluelightz wrote: First, I don't like the idea of lynching lurkers because more or less it justs waste's us a townie and Next, I think the people that are not posting should be chec Lastly, I don't have a scummy read on anyone yet. Doesn't want to lynch a lurker. On January 05 2012 14:27 Bluelightz wrote: Okay, ill just give my thoughts on LA-Lurkers First, I don't think that lynching lurkers benefit town in any way. Usually it results in a townie lynched(BByte lynch in student mafia as an example) Also, Here's the list of people I want posting xsksc Cwave risk.nuke Errandor That is all. Doesn't want to lynch a lurker. On January 05 2012 21:46 Bluelightz wrote: Right now, since we have no real option I would like to lynch a lurker. Wants to lynch a lurker. While his response could seem understandable because he did say he'd like to lynch a lurker in lack of better options. But then there is this On January 05 2012 21:59 Bluelightz wrote: At this point, I would wait if xsk starts posting, risk.nuke too. But if they don't i'm all ears for lynching them I would lynch RoL right now because he hasn't posted anything when I searched for RoL post's in the thread I haven't found any post's by him He is clearly quite fond of the idea of lynching lurkers. Going back again to when Palmar asked him who he would like to kill. His initial response was catastrophic. He said "an unspecific lurker" and avoided the pressure of the question. He changes his mind and he changes his target to RoL but on a very weak basis. Conclusion: He plays carefree, doesn't seem to giving things more then a brief thought before having an opinion which leads to him often changing his mind. Not traits that strikes me as townish in a complicated mafia game. Refallen What I don't like about refallen is he posts just to look town.+ Show Spoiler + On January 04 2012 16:52 Refallen wrote: Finally started! Hype! My first thoughts on the setup; Obviously, I think the best way to go about this game is to focus on killing angels in the early game. Once we get rid of the acolyte, the seer has an infinitely easier job in cleansing corruption because we can actually claim if we got corrupted and not get targetted right now as we get closer to the late game lynching demons obviously becomes more and more important, but town would have a huge benefit if we can reduce angel KP early on in the game, as this has a building effect of letting more townies live = demon corrupt has less of an impact. + Show Spoiler + On January 05 2012 10:22 Refallen wrote: Alright, I just woke up, first thoughts: Why is everyone tunneling the lurkish newbie? He is sooooo likely to flip town instead of scum. Just look at Election Mafia, and XLVIII. In almost every case, the lurking newbie simply turns out to be just that, a newbie, which explains his low-posting. We definitely do not want to be wasting a lynch on him. This is never a good idea. Even a town who is completely non-contributing serves as an extra KP before LYLO, and for most newbie towns, they will be sheeping the case which most people are already on, in effect letting town have an extra vote. We should never ever ever kill town "because he's useless at it". I'm not sure what you're going on about having a solid case. How does one make a solid case on someone who has 3 posts and told us they're going afk for a bit on the very first day of the game? For now, I don't have a lynch target. I want Palmar to start posting. Everyone is not tunneling, coming to the rescue so quickly you don't even properly analyse the situation. Eager to appear protown? The rest of the post is... "fluff" "I don't have a lynch target" "I Want palmar to start posting" + Show Spoiler + On January 06 2012 02:23 Refallen wrote: Think this makes me 3/3 of me being discussed as lynching on day 1 as a townie, my play sure is good /sarcasm. Honestly though, was at a friends birthday party, just got home, about to sleep. Syllo, and others, I don't see how showing angels were a bigger threat than demons would paint me as anti-town. Keep in mind that the context of the post when it was made; all of us were discussing the setup (mainly because it was start of day 1 and it served as a topic of discussion.) Obviously the point about us not being able to tell who was demon/angel makes the whole discussion basically practically useless, but it provided a topic for us to start talking about the game (if you want useless posts, see palmars kite claim) With that said, I'll be reading through the thread tomorrow and posting who I think are suspicious. Right now at least my previous suspicion of Palmar has been assuaged at him posting and being his usual bullying town self. Conclusion: I don't like his posts so far and I'm suspicious towards his hype followed by nothing but fluff. I'm waiting for his thoughts tomorrow and some better defense wouldn't hurt him. xsksc xsksc and the meta. What is xsksc up to? I might be wrong but this doesn't feel like the townie xsksc I am used to. | ||
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Blazinghand quit floating around and write something helpfull yourself. | ||
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I wasn't anxious because I didn't think you were seriously suspecting me. You're just beeing shallow and lazy. | ||
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On January 06 2012 05:08 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: @risk.nuke Isn't carefree play usually a townie trait? How does seeming carefree implicate bluelightz? The "everyone looks town!" is surely incriminating, but I am not finding the carefree being incriminating. Why would town get nervous when accused? They know they are innocent. Explaining themselves, yes, but I know I get annoyed, not nervous. It depends. If you are having a single one or two people accusing you, you get annoyed. Like I am now now with syllo. Or example in steamship prplhz tried to get me lynched on a bad case. I got annoyed. Then there are situations where you have a majority of people looking suspiciously at you. You've likely messed up and done something to justify their suspicions but you need to defend yourself. If you mess up town mislynch you. There is a situation I would be nervous in. | ||
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Why should we lynch the (imo) best player in the game in a 2 mafia team setup day 1.+ Show Spoiler + On January 06 2012 11:43 Jackal58 wrote: Are you scum too? There should be zero confusion about which of those 2 you would want to lynch if you believe them both to be scum. No offense risk.nuke but you're not scary. Scum Palmar is scary. This is just fearmongering. @Refallen, it is a townie priority to look town. But what you're doing is not that. You're writing useless posts hoping on a brief glance they will make it look as you're contributing. And when most of your posts are like that I get suspicious. There is nothing wrong or scummy with anyone of your posts. But they are all very easy to make as a scum. And I have not made a case yet, if you think what I wrote on you and bluelightz are cases I promise you this. When I make a case it will have a conclusion that says this guy is scum and we should lynch his arse. | ||
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Jackal58 is another person who would likely bleed red. The first thing he does is attack palmar and keeps at it using tunneling and fearmongering, while I am also slightly leaning red on palmar I don't think Jackal would hit him this hard if Jackal was town-aligned, he's just trying to get rid of palmar any means neccersary. He justifys it by saying he always attack palmar day 1 but I think this is just an excuse. He takes a break from his Palmar tunneling to rightfully rage alittle on people listing no-reads but it doesn't mean anything and he haven't contributed anything himself exept tunneling palmar. | ||
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On January 08 2012 04:15 risk.nuke wrote: @Palmar you wanted to know about my ridiculous idea. Well prepare yourself for ridiculousness. At the time I was having a blast sitting up there anonymous reading every word people were saying. It was a great discussion to. Due to my habit of vetoing the first bandwagon on principle with few exeptions I wasn't going to lynch bluelightz, Refallan I was actually slightly suspicious of. Anyway the discussion had pretty much slowed down so I wrote a few thoughts that wouldn't get either of them lynched but rather to just fuel the discussion. I was also having an eye on blazinghand back then (yeah don't worry I've dropped him, butI though he was fishy at the time) I hate day 1 and I just wanted to get as much information as I could hoping I might find a good case against odds. Oh and I got pissed at syllo because after he spoke up nobody said anything at all for a very long time and I sort of blamed him for it. | ||
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On January 08 2012 01:43 layabout wrote: Yesterday i waited to see more from risk.nuke and i was sadly disappointed. risk.nuke: A few general traits that he displays as town: -He often posts very little day 1 (<1 page) -He is very aggressive and pushes people on mistakes -He quotes people a lot and makes accusations -He is confident and assertive in offering his own opinion -He is a bit rude This game he: -Has posted very little (<1 page) -Has been aggressive against syllogism, who voted for him -Has made a few accusations (but not followed them up) -Has been confident but avoided offering a unique opinion -Has been a bit rude Furthermore he has: -Promised content -Made excuses Don't mind if I do this to meta arguments. Posts: This post is extremely out of place, i have not found a single post similar to this one from a day1 town risk.nuke: At this point in the game there are still a number of barely-posters and discussion has not really been serious. In his next post risk.nuke even states Given that this is the case this post is a very safe post to make, he doesn't need to come to any hard conclusions but it does make him appear to be contributing to the discussion topics at the time. This post is easy to make from either perspective but it is more useful for scum who doesn't wish to contribute but would like to appear to. Given his comments about refallen it seem reasonable for risk.nuke to pressure or make a case against him, but it seems like risk just completely forgets later on. If I were a scum why would I not pressure him if as you say I had good reason to, exept if you think I'm refallens scumbuddy HoD already pointed out that these are typically townie traits, so i am left to infer that the "complicated" setup is what in your view makes it un-town-like? It seems to me that you are trying to mislead people. @risk.nuke please explain why exactly you felt that those traits do not stike you as townlike? because here you responded to HoD but it is almost entirely meaningless crap You talk about the number of people accusing you if you are town, you say that if you are town and in your situation then you should react the way that you did, by getting annoyed. You back it up by saying that you got annoyed before when you were town. You then say that when a number of people pressure you because you have made a mistake then you need to defend youself, but that if you have messed up that town should lynch you and it would be your fault. You say that if you had messed up and were under pressure you were be nervous. None of that answer the actually question. It simply serves to try to paint you as town-like, and if it relates to BL at all then it is to imply that he messed up that town should kill him and lays ground for a potential mislynch. All of those purposes seem scummy to me. I'm not sure what you're meaning here, we're talking about beeing nervous and beeing carefree and I think I answered that. I think your mind is living in a world where mislynches doesn't exist. He speaks out against syllogism trying to meta him, i think syllo already explained why this is scummy here (clicky). Here he attacks syllogism for calling him out on his actions. As town risk.nuke typically calls people out for actions he disapproves of yet in this game when syllogism does it "There is nothing pro town about calling him out?" Perhaps risk.nuke believes his usual town play is anti-town? He says that he had an agenda to "see who would comment on his last post what they would say and who would push to lynch those players", this really doesn't seem like a big plan that syllogism had ruined and having a secret agenda that you expect players players like syllogism to pick up on but not comment on so as to allow you to carry out that agenda seems highly anti-town. Town players shouldn't have anything to hide (except a blue roles) and this "ruined agenda" seems very un-town-like Why isn't risk.nuke being his more open self? Some people are good at finding scum day1, I'm not so I let them do their thing while I don't them in trying to do something I would probably fail with. Isntead I try to find somehting my own way, and setting a trap isn't scummy. Lying is scummy. Not saying what you were doing afterwards is scummy. Next he opposes a palmar lynch without adressing the reasons for a palmar lynch. To some people this is a fair argument and to others it is very poor ground for not lynching a player. He does however make a good point about Jackal fearmogering,- the type of point i would expect risk.nuke to make. I don't see the point of lynching palmar in a multiteam setup. Worst case he is town and we just lyched palmar. Best case he is scum and he can't help us find the other scumteam, That's why I got really suspicious of all the vets wanting him out asap, wiggles sort of dodged me because I really liked his initial big post. He then re-surmises what he has said about refallen, says then refallen is still acting the same way that makes him scummy. From here-on in he does not mention accuse refallen of anything. excuse Also the truth, I was watching us winning the junior world championship, and It's 5 am, ofcourse Im tired promises content. Last part is non-committal which might allow for him to provide little. legitimate excuse for activity, but because he is here hopefully he can deliver that mind blowing content, right? He Provides little! (the scummy option) He calls Erandorr scum but does not provide enough to support a vote or lynch. He presents the beginnings of a case against Jackal, he may have some points that he could further push. But Jackal is one of the 7/18 player so far to not receive a vote. When there are a number of candidates already being discussed why would you present 1 paragraph about a player being scummy and pick a player that, at the time was in absolutely no danger of being lynched? Perhaps he wants to spilt the vote or try to get a no-lynch. When serious discussion about who to lynch had began risk pipes in to sheep a case and maybe start a case. He does not follow either case up and he does not vote. This does not make sense if he truly feels like Jackal is the best lynch and he is town, or if he feels that jumping on Erandorr will kill scum.There is no reason not to state what you think, If I were to come in two days and say, well I thought jackal was scummy two days ago people would either not belive me or legitimitly ask me why the hell I didn't say something Asks a question, not a contribution. Blazinghand was acting high on coffe shouting all over the place how erandorr is hustling us, I didn't much get him. His response to votes is a one line joking comment that scum are voting for him. Earlier he had stated how he as town would respond by getting annoyed or by defending himself. risk.nuke not doing what he said he would do ask town ===> risk.nuke is scum? I'm wasn't joking, judging from how I looked it was pretty obvious (or atleast a good chance) scum would slowly push for my lynch to protect their own. risk.nuke currently the only thing that might make me think you aren't scum is when you make your case because: You also admit that what you wrote about refallen and bluelightz had very little value in it. And that was most of the substance in your posts so far... Conclusion: risk.nuke's play does not math the town risk.nuke you may have come to know and love. He was willing to offer thoughts at the start when doing so was not useful and when it was easy for scum to do so. He has made excuses and promised content. He has yet to deliver that content. He has not been aggressive in calling people out as he has previuosly and has criticised syllogism for calling him out. He avoided has provided a very fluffy answer to HoD's question. He has contradicted his own declarations of good town play. He has avoided making any serious contributions now that we actuaaly have to decide who we are lynching. He has not made an effort to defend himself, but has called everybody voting for him scum. Your conclusion is bogus. I haven't called everyone who votes for me scum wtf? People doesn't love my townplay. If you think I've contradicted myself you need to go back and reread that or repost it to me so I can correct you. I haven't given any serious contributions because I'm not good day 1 and I know it. And if you want to see one of my case you'll unfortunatly have to wait untill someone says something I can use because I can't magicly spawn cases. Vote risk.nuke filters in past games: Election mafia (town) Tl Mafia XLVII (town) Steamship (Tl mafia 46) (town) Newbie mini mafia (town)+ nice hotbid post TL Mafia XLV (town) almost no posts day1 | ||
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On January 08 2012 06:15 Palmar wrote: Why not? Do you dislike the attention? I mean, if you're town you have nothing to hide... lol, you're just trying to cliché paint me as scum now. I have no problems with attention but I think that him calling me out forced me reveal what I wanted to do. I would had much rather prefered him asking me about it day 2 or I might even had told you all what I was doing by day 2. As I first said calling me out unless he wanted to push me was useless, and then he proceeds to push me. | ||
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On January 08 2012 08:19 Mr. Wiggles wrote: What do you think of this? The only meta in it, is that you were more free with your vote in steamship. I think this person haven't seen me defensive. Ofcourse I respond to beeing called out, originaly I didn't want to post alot day 1. What I ment with "I didn't want to commit to lynchign this soon", I already stated, people who are good at scumhunting day 1 have my blessing to do so, But I'm not going to join them but try to wait for as much information as possible, I didn't think it would matter much if I pressure votes or if some other is doing it aslong as it is beeing done. | ||
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On January 08 2012 08:51 Blazinghand wrote: Like I'm not sure if you're aware of this but people can say that even if they're scum. If you want to convince me not to lynch you, you'll need to do better than that. The statement you made did nothing to help town, prove your innocence, or really do anything but take up space. Ah like 90% of your posts then? | ||
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On January 08 2012 08:56 Palmar wrote: Erandorr has done nothing this game that warrants me giving him the "I'll rather no-lynch than lynch a townie" treatment, however, despite risk's last effort, do you not think he overreacted to you calling him out? Claiming that plan that literally was nothing but "I'm gonna post and see what people say", do you think he is honestly under the impression that this "plan" was so pro-town and vital, that it justifies attacking someone? I actually thought risk.nuke was decent at the game. But to answer your question, I'll be around for another half an hour or so, and there is no reason to protect erandorr. Who did I attack? | ||
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On January 08 2012 09:06 layabout wrote: last minute non-justified swapping? fuck you guys Ehm no, A few people decided to rocket me to the top of the lynchboard a little while ago and now we're back to voting erandorr and all is well in the world. | ||
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On January 08 2012 09:18 syllogism wrote: risk what happened to your bus? Were you going out and decided not to or what? It's not a huge big of deal, I was going to my countryhouse to clean it up "properly" after newyears. I'll be going early tomorrow morning instead. | ||
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On January 08 2012 09:27 Mr. Wiggles wrote: If we're going to lynch Erandorr, you still need two more people besides me. Who are they? I don't want a no-lynch. People who shoule be around are Palmar RoL Layabout Refallen | ||
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On January 09 2012 04:32 syllogism wrote: No, but you aren't a player who I talk extensively about the game, in and out of the game. It's extremely unlikely that he would say that as town and I'm pretty sure that when he wrote that he knew very well how it would look like to me; he has by this point realized that there is little he can do to avoid being lynched so might as well have some fun. Imo a town Palmar would respond to that with a pretty huge post declaring why the plan is dumb alternativly if he approved of the plan he would write additional thoughts or/and reason further why it is a good plan. | ||
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I said I would claim vt, then I got insanely bussy with newbie mafia related stuff. At 59 I just tabbed and pressed vt because first I said I would and I had no idea if people were claiming as rol wanted or not. second I was hoping my promise to claim just before deadline might make me the angel think I was a scared blue. And If I were killed and you couldn't see my flip I wanted to have claimed vt. | ||
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Why I'm probably not a demon because of palmars flip. I agree this isn't as solid as the first argument but when Palmar came up as a lynch topic I objected to it. Why would I have done that if I were an angel. I would had known he was either "A Very Dangerous Townie" or "A Demon" and very much a threat to me and by team. So why would I object to lynching him? And since nobody else came to this conclusion I think it shows very clearly that you're not looking at me unbiased. | ||
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HoD, I might be alittle biased to the fact that this is one of the few people who have defended me. On the other hand if he we keep going by the assumption that the demons put him in purgatory which I absolutely think is what happend the motive could either have been to protect one of their own or framing someone else to make it look like they were. There are a few things that makes HoD a viable lynch. There is a chance he is the AoD, and there is a chance he is a demon. I don't like how he speculates alot about scum actions. In fairness it makes sense that he should do this more then otherssince he was singled out by scumactions but I still think a scum is inclined to do so. | ||
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On January 10 2012 23:33 syllogism wrote: Zephirdd: you don't assume stupid things just because they are possible. Read my filter and tell me if it looks like scum play; it does not. I even suggested that the channeler should use its power to protect likely n1 targets, which would be ridiculously bad if I was the angel of death. Thus you should either conclude that they tried to hit me or HoD is the angel. The former likely implies that there was a reason for angels to want me dead, which implicates risk/tyrran. This means nothing, quite obviously if you were scum you would act like you played pro town. | ||
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On January 11 2012 00:19 syllogism wrote: This is perhaps the single most scummiest thing I've seen on TL Mafia. Lynch this scum please lol, bullshit. There were a very very fucking very good chance that if you hadn't said that somebody else would had and you know that. The abillity has 2 functions, roleblock and save. Save is about 1000xtimes better. Period. I laugh at your "I said it first and it's an anti angel move so I can't be an angel" logic. fucking proposterous that you're trying to milk that so far. You're trying to claim that just because you're playing pro-town you can't possibly be scum. Ha. And right now you're tunneling me on a shitty case that only makes sense if you were an angel so thats what I think of you beeing pro-town. | ||
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On January 11 2012 01:12 layabout wrote: I will be voting for risk nuke. I am going to wait until closer to the deadline before i vote. I dislike the reasons given for lynching RoL. Now I need to go do some work. What about stating the reasons you want to lynch me for. "I think he is scummy" is not a fucking reason and if town continue to accept that you will find yourself at lylo without information. Why do you think we're lynching people. Reasoning is the fucking key to finding scum. Why is everyone trying to dodge that? Townies are you just lazy, cause if you are don't join a mafia game. | ||
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On January 11 2012 01:30 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Oh really? This is the shit I am talking about. Read the fucking set up that would confirm you are not an Angel, you could still be a Demon. AFTER PALMARS SHIT? | ||
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On January 11 2012 01:33 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: No, you are playing in uncertainties as I said earlier. Uncertainties are stupid and while if Palmar was viciously attacking you it could imply you are town a player of his caliber isn't stupid enough to not set up late game scenarios earlier on by drawing distance. It's simple scum tactics and Palmar is a good player. Please, It's about what is probable not what is possible. I came an inch from dying and you clearly don't seem to realise how close it was. Since I guess everyone was to lazy I'll narrate it for you. We had people who would rather lynch erandorr then me so at the time we could possibly get 9 for erandorr. But nothing was really happening so people started getting nervous about a nolynch. A couple of minutes before the night refallen and blazing hand both agrees to swap to the other lynch-candidate almost at the same time. If blazinghand had been just slightly faster with his post I would had been lynched. | ||
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On January 11 2012 01:34 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: And risk, congrats. You earned another vote, well on your way to popularity island. Thanks, how did I win this gracious price? What exacly will you claim when I flip green? oh who am I kidding, nobody gives a reason so nobody needs a reason. I love how syllo is lurking and despite me consistantly asking for reason he says nothing. | ||
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On January 11 2012 01:44 layabout wrote: risk if you want to troll could you at least be funny? layabout, if you want to comment, you could atleast say something of value? | ||
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On January 11 2012 13:13 Grackaroni wrote: I feel that between risk.nuke and RoL, Risk.nuke is the better lynch. RoL seems to truly believe that the voting block and confirmed townies would be more helpful than the blues themselves and seems to have spent a lot of time considering the implications of the mass roleclaim. I get the feeling that he legitimately believes his plan is good for town, and he stands by it even after the town declared it anti-town. The largest flaw in the plan is not the theory itself but the actual application. If only a portion of the town comes in to claim the whole plan falls apart, letting a portion of townies make claims is bad. Besides it's possible that we have a couple derp townies who would lie about their roles in order to save themselves or draw hits. risk.nuke mentioned a plan that consisted of sitting back and observing posts and got pissed off at Syllo for ruining it. I think he has been overreacting to accusations. He also is using meta on other people yet when it's used against himself meta is worthless. The only thing I agree with is that Palmar's flip does make me think that you are less likely to be a demon, still though if you were an Angel of course you're going to ask to be checked in order to prolong your life. With 20 hours to go we need to start consolidating our votes. I think risk.nuke is more likely scum than RoL but either one is preferable to a no-lynch. ##Vote: risk.nuke You clearly either got no idea what I wanted to achive or your deliberatly bending words. I've been using meta or Erandorr and Palmar who I've seen play in a ton of games as both town and mafia and I know how to tell one from the other. I have never played a game as scum and I have played agressivly, passivle, lazily and with passion all as town. If you don't realise why those facts makes judging me on meta impossible you're a fool. blablabla you're not demon, you could still be angel blablabla. I think risk.nuke is scum. you're reasoning suck or more acuratly is inexistant but whatever. You probably just wanted to write some weak shit that took you 5 minutes to come up with to make it look like you were trying atleast a slightly bit harder then the rest. Whatever, Fuck this. Lynch me, I'm done. I could fight to stay alive but I don't have any motivation. The entire town is either tunneling me, sheeping and everyone is ignorning everything that doesn't fit me beeing scum-scheme which is a fucking lot. Syllogism the bandwagon starter have failed to provide reasoning and just ignored all of my pleads for him to do so. But to top it of, town seem contempt with allowing votes without reasoning. Even if I were to keep on living I wouldn't have any motivation to play with a town like this, I could say good luck town but you guys are screwed. Once I flip, lynch syllogism the bad tunneling angel and every fucking one who used something along the lines of this "I don't like RoL as a lynch because of X so I'm going with risk.nuke" for reasoning. | ||
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On January 11 2012 04:01 Zephirdd wrote: Well, that's the whole point of my last sentence. I'm just ultra curious about risk's flip right now. Why are you curious about my flip? | ||
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On January 11 2012 19:38 Blazinghand wrote: Yeah eveyrone knows you're gonna flip scum The question was not for you so stfu you imbacile. Why would I flip scum you piece of shit? | ||
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Furthermore. Wtf too people still claiming I was a good lynch or the right thing to do. Are you trying to mask your stupidity and shame as a group by mutually lowering your heads in disgrace and keep up the mumbling. There wasn't a case against me. Syllogism was tunneling me like mad because he thought I would had made a case against someone else as town. Which is just dumb. You don't go to the thread and read a bunch on bullshit accusations against you and decided to go make a case against someone else rather then trying to defend yourself. Unfortunatly you can't defend yourself against "I think he is scummy", which is why you don't use that as reasoning. I asked a ton of times for reasoning and the entire town just sat there and looked stupid when asked for logical reasoning. If you go back and read the thread you'll see that everytime I asked for reasoning the town went silent for a while untill someone decided to ignore it completely and start talking about something else. The reason I were certain syllogism was scum was because I belived syllo was good at this game. And that he would never accept town where everyone are free to vote singly on gut or find that town atmosphere acceptable. Town got insanely lucky in the end but look at the direction you were going. I would had expected a town syllogism to stand beside me and roar at people to state their logic. Maybe he couldn't do it without beeing a hypocrite since he was the person who had accidently started the whole thing or maybe he was also feeling satisfied because the person everyone were doing this anti-town shit too was the person he wanted dead and he didn't mind at the time. @Townies. I don't know what the hell you thought you were doing. After having mislynched erandorr in a case where pretty much everyone were in agreeement and we had gotten no information you decided that the best thing to do was to kill another person who would give you no information. Nobody objected against me. You were just hoping you'd be lucky and accidently hit scum. Even if I would had flipped scum you would had gotten no information from the lynch because everyone was at the same page. Which is one of the biggest reasons I find my lynch dumb. Because the point of lynching is for information. I was even unsure if we should no-lynch instead of erandorr because everyone was against him and would had gotten us no information. But in the end it was him or me and there was atleast some childish case on his scummeta. | ||
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Syllogism. You sucked. Not me. | ||
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On January 22 2012 04:18 Blazinghand wrote: But you see, that's the point! YOU WERE A BAD LYNCH. You totes could have defended yourself, in that case. If you were really a bad lynch, I don't see how you, being A) innocent and B) a bad lynch were gonna get lynched. I think that if you had defended yourself adequately and made a solid case on someone else you'd have been fine. You SHOULD have been fine. BH, you havent understood the situation. It's not as simple as whipping up a case against someone else. Lol at you saying, you could had simply made a solid case on someone else and avoid beeing lynched when nobody had made a solid case. They don't come with the cheerios. Later I didn't follow the game closely but I doubt there was any solid scumhunting cases at all for the entire game. Town just got lucky with powerroles. Were you expecting me to whipp one up at day 1? As for defending myself I defended myself from what I could, and I was beeing ignored. + Show Spoiler + *We had concluded that I wasn't or very unlikely a demon because of palmars actions. Why would I had defended palmar the demon from an angel perspective? He is a great scumhunter and on my opposing team. That in itself made me less likely to flip scum then anybody else. *I could also had been a good target for the seer, Since the detectives of this setup only had two functions. I was in a rare position where a check on me was usefull and could actually confirm me as almost guaranteed town. *No information would come from my lynch. Other then that. What was there to defend myself against? There was not a case against me. I can't defend myself from air or people just saying I think he is scummy. Nobody can. Logical arguments can be trashed and I'm generally good at trashing bad cases against me. But I can't if you don't accuse me of something. But ignore all that. What would you had done and said if you were in my situation. Answer that if you want me to discuss this seriously with you. | ||
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