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On February 08 2012 02:29 chaoser wrote:I've read up to page 17. This game makes me not want to play mafia anymore.... First three pages after start of the game were a big circlejerk and then the next three are just random accusations and shitty logic...I should have listened to GM about playing in games with lots of newbies... I hate all of you /end rant ##vote rgTheSchworzRead some of his shit... Show nested quote +"I feel Day 1 someone always gets lynched for beingcarelessandthat someone is almost always a townie.So, it doesn't do any harm at all to ramp the pressure now instead of later in the day when we will be hard-pressed for time and are likely to make hasty decisions." Show nested quote +"I personally doubt that he's a blue trying to hide by claiming green, so scum know his role already. Terribad for us." Show nested quote +"You, sir are Scum" and then..."And me be damned if this is not a pressurevote or a normal vote in any way: ##Vote: -_-Quails" I will post a bigger post after getting to the end
If its so terrible for you, then please take your elitist ass and GTFO. Ask for a replacement or whatever. No one will miss you...
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Either that or try contributing without QQ'ing all over the thread...
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+ Show Spoiler +On February 08 2012 02:39 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 02:13 Tunkeg wrote:On February 08 2012 01:59 Bill Murray wrote: when i say half of the game having names of their own, i mean to say half of the game are town power roles
if you are not green, and not mafia, you are a power role, right? i guess not all 16 have to be in the game...
anyways, im going to officially claim that i am not a townie WTF do you want to achieve by this? If you aren't scum you got a big crosshair on you, and if you aren't third party you will soon enough die at night. I can not see a scenario where this will benefit town. More so we as a town don't get any smarter by this, you aren't confirmed in any way you just confuse us by doing so. hahaha, tunkeg, my boy, sit down and watch the pro at work there is this thing called having your medics protect different people (like me!) there is a thing called coordinating your vigilantes so they dont hit the same people there is a thing called a detective check if we massclaim (and im trying to get you all to see we should) we actually will have more KP than the mafia, + lynch and batman... how is that bad? i ALREADY have a giant crosshair on me, furthermore. I would be killed off just as easily as someone like Radfield, due to my scumhunting prowess later in the game via votecounting analysis.
I like your style. You make this game intersting indeed. But I don't like it from a town perspective. I think your claim is just so annoyingly confusing. You make a halfassed claim that is impossible for anyone to verify, you could just as well be scum with a crazy plan or Batman/CW doing something crazy.
I am not sure if I am right about this, but my thoughts are that if you are going to claim anything, then at least do us the courtesy to claim it in full.
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On February 08 2012 02:44 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 02:39 Tunkeg wrote: Either that or try contributing without QQ'ing all over the thread... It's like walking into a room for a party but instead a majority of people are taking big dumps all over the floor. You want to talk to people but walking around in a problem. So all you can do is hope people are drinking the infected water in the punch bowl and develop cholera and die off. In the mean time you just point at the biggest dump taker and say let's just hang that fucker outright. Get it?
No it is like an asshole comming to a party, and it don't turn out as he wants, but instead of going home he just to go around agitating everyone, until someone kick the asshole in the face...
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On February 08 2012 02:53 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 02:51 Tunkeg wrote:On February 08 2012 02:44 chaoser wrote:On February 08 2012 02:39 Tunkeg wrote: Either that or try contributing without QQ'ing all over the thread... It's like walking into a room for a party but instead a majority of people are taking big dumps all over the floor. You want to talk to people but walking around in a problem. So all you can do is hope people are drinking the infected water in the punch bowl and develop cholera and die off. In the mean time you just point at the biggest dump taker and say let's just hang that fucker outright. Get it? No it is like an asshole comming to a party, and it don't turn out as he wants, but instead of going home he just to go around agitating everyone, until someone kick the asshole in the face... Are you going to be the one that kicks "the asshole in the face"?
I think I just did... Problem is that you got a concussion and is still talking jibber jabber. So I'll just leave you alone, ignore you and let the others cater you back to health.
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+ Show Spoiler +On February 08 2012 03:03 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 03:00 Tunkeg wrote:On February 08 2012 02:53 chaoser wrote:On February 08 2012 02:51 Tunkeg wrote:On February 08 2012 02:44 chaoser wrote:On February 08 2012 02:39 Tunkeg wrote: Either that or try contributing without QQ'ing all over the thread... It's like walking into a room for a party but instead a majority of people are taking big dumps all over the floor. You want to talk to people but walking around in a problem. So all you can do is hope people are drinking the infected water in the punch bowl and develop cholera and die off. In the mean time you just point at the biggest dump taker and say let's just hang that fucker outright. Get it? No it is like an asshole comming to a party, and it don't turn out as he wants, but instead of going home he just to go around agitating everyone, until someone kick the asshole in the face... Are you going to be the one that kicks "the asshole in the face"? I think I just did... Problem is that you got a concussion and is still talking jibber jabber. So I'll just leave you alone, ignore you and let the others cater you back to health. I don't see how you just "kicked me in the face" so yeah...Also what's jibber jabber? My quote of you equating a vigi to a townie and thus advocating that he out himself to Batman to be killed? That's real smart...
My first post to you was the kick in the face. Jibber jabber is bullshit. I have explained myself on the Joker Claim numerous times, read the thread. And yeah, I think it is smart. But it aren't going to happend so I won't waste anyones time more by talking about it.
You like distracting town by going back to this topic?
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Holy shit claiming when having 5 out of 31 votes long before the deadline. If it were 16 and an hour before I could understand it, but this? Bah.
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So, this is going to be between Sheth and CC then (and perhaps rgST, but I am not voting for a claimer tonight, that would be like doing scum a favor, rgST will be killed off soon enough, and in the meanwhile he needs to post his checks and his findings to keep pressure on scum, or reveal himself as a scum (unless he is the scum DT ofcourse).
On one hand you have CC who have done the rgST push and started the Joker Claim thing. After awhile it was pretty much me and DrH going back and forth on it, CC leaving me high and dry pretty much. I still belive that Joker claim would be pro-town, but CC might had a hidden plan (that I don't see) in getting me or anyone else going along with this plan lynched (meaning he is scum) or he is Batman (wanting the easy kill on Joker).
For Sheth he haven't posted anything that I consider pro-town yet. He flip-flopped on the whole Joker thing, and as soon as he got attention from DrH he just switched 180 around.
Am I sold that anyone of them is scum. No, not at all, would I be more content with lynching layabout, yes indeed (he haven't convinced me he is town, and still is my strongest read). Will I make my vote count? Yes, and I will swing it on Sheth, as I think it is more likely that he is scum than CC.
##Vote Liquid`Sheth
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So CC was town and was pro Joker Claim, that makes us two townies out of two who favored the Joker Claim. I belive the scum team also see the plan as pro town and therefor sent one of theirs to shut down the plan. DrH are you scum? Or would that be to obvious. I think you are scum.
Next chaoser you are a clueless jerk, you have earned yourself a spot on the Tunkeg tunneling train, I will have my vote on you for as long as either of us are in the game. If I had a vig shot I would use it on you. You were wrong about CC, and you are wrong about me. You got shit for logic, you came late and just crapped all over the thread. You are either scum or very expendable. Its either you or me, someone have to go, I'm fine either way.
Layabout is still my secound choice as scum, for all the reasons I have said before. He doesn't look like town layabout and if the shoe doesn't fit, well, he is scum.
Bill Murray is also probably scummy, all of his claiming and masoning posts are just confusing (though very entertaining).
So my hit list in order of priority is:
chaoser layabout DrH BillMurray
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On February 08 2012 18:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote: It was still a stupid plan, whether CC was town or not doesn't make it good. Being wrong on Day 1 also doesn't make you scum. Don't kid yourself, try real analysis instead of this bullshit please.
This is what I do. I think your view on the Joker Claim is wrong, and you just see one side of the arguement, meaning you have an agenda behind it, a anti-town agenda...
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On February 08 2012 18:21 Tunkeg wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 18:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote: It was still a stupid plan, whether CC was town or not doesn't make it good. Being wrong on Day 1 also doesn't make you scum. Don't kid yourself, try real analysis instead of this bullshit please. This is what I do. I think your view on the Joker Claim is wrong, and you just see one side of the arguement, meaning you have an agenda behind it, a anti-town agenda...
And don't worry you are only number 3 on my list, I won't focus on you until at least chaoser is dead and gone away.
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On February 08 2012 18:26 Tobberoth wrote: Glad to see someone else finally supporting the lynch of chaoser. I can't believe more people haven't voted on him since I did, I mean look at his filter, he's basically done nothing except trolling. Jumping on the band wagon early? check. stealth voting C_C without really supplying any reason? check.
Chaoser is definitely not town.
The problem with veterans (if chaoser is a veteran) for us newer players are that we don't know their meta. For all I know chaoser might just be this useless as town, and the rest know it, and therefor just ignores him. But as I don't have any meta on him I will call it as I see it, and that is that he is anti-town at best, and likely scum.
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On February 08 2012 18:32 Adam4167 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 17:59 Tunkeg wrote: Its either you or me, someone have to go, I'm fine either way.
You're seriously pulling this card again after saying after Student Mafia how much of a brain-fart it was?
Yup, people that pisses me off pisses me off, done deal. In Student it almost cost town the victory, and it was bad by me. Here we are at night one, with 30 players left to go I see little harm for town in me getting lynched for going all in against chaoser. I belive he is scum. He is hurting town, I don't play good with these kinds of players around , if I can't get them out they will annoy me for the rest of the game. This is a risk vs reward evaluation from me, I risk getting lynched or nightkilled (if I am right) or even being protrayed as a fool who only tunnels. But the sweet reward should chaoser flip scum, or even just getting him out of the game so I can truly ignore him weighs up for it...
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On February 08 2012 18:51 Tunkeg wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 18:32 Adam4167 wrote:On February 08 2012 17:59 Tunkeg wrote: Its either you or me, someone have to go, I'm fine either way.
You're seriously pulling this card again after saying after Student Mafia how much of a brain-fart it was? Yup, people that pisses me off pisses me off, done deal. In Student it almost cost town the victory, and it was bad by me. Here we are at night one, with 30 players left to go I see little harm for town in me getting lynched for going all in against chaoser. I belive he is scum. He is hurting town, I don't play good with these kinds of players around , if I can't get them out they will annoy me for the rest of the game. This is a risk vs reward evaluation from me, I risk getting lynched or nightkilled (if I am right) or even being protrayed as a fool who only tunnels. But the sweet reward should chaoser flip scum, or even just getting him out of the game so I can truly ignore him weighs up for it...
Also this might just become my trademark. You've allready seen one scum in this game (read layabout) back down from a fight with me because of all the unwanted attention it gets. And he wouldn't back down from a fight otherwise.
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On February 08 2012 19:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 18:21 Palmar wrote:On February 08 2012 18:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote: It was still a stupid plan, whether CC was town or not doesn't make it good. Being wrong on Day 1 also doesn't make you scum. Don't kid yourself, try real analysis instead of this bullshit please. Why did you vote for him then? Because I thought CC was scum.
LIE!!!!
You wrote many times you thought CC was Batman...
But I think you are scum and you knew CC was on the townside...
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On February 08 2012 19:19 Toadesstern wrote: Mmmh, I don't want catwoman to randomly shoot into a DT because she thinks it's TwoFace so I might claim as well. Wanted to see the lynch first to see if I'm on a killing spree again like in L or if I suck. Apparently I suck and I just send BC a pm that I picked the DT power over my Vig power. I'm Two-Face and I picked DT because I suck this game + we probably already got a shitload of vigs. If CC would have turned out red or catwoman I would have picked the vig instead.
You may ask yourself "wtf is this guy doing? He just claimed two-face, catwoman will simply kill him if it's true, therefore it got to be a fakeclaim". Fear not because I am immortal. Not literally but pretty much. I won't tell why but I asked BC and he told me Catwoman can't penetrate my awesome powers and she can't kill me right now. Obviously I won't tell you what makes me immortal because that would make it WAAAAY easier for her.
I don't need protection because as mentioned, I'm pretty much immortal. Now we got 2 claimed DTs while one is unkillable. Sounds pretty awesome given Mafia only has one Roleblocker. I don't know if the other DT Claim is a true one or a mafia fakeclaim but if it's true mafia has to kill him and RB me. Or mafia isn't believing a word I say because hell, who would give town an unkillable DT, right? :p
Aaargh, whats up with these claims. I guess you can't be immortal forever though, so you pretty much signed your own deathcertificate here. At least you had the courtesy to claim by name. This is obvious though, but you need to post your checks after each night now.
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I will admit it you guys got me totally confused!
Let me see if I got this correct... 1. We got a bunch of claimers:
+ Show Spoiler +On February 09 2012 04:12 Bill Murray wrote: I also dont see why radfield/doch/kita should get protection if they are not a valuable power role ignore radfield, other than this list:
Bill Murray - medic Kurumi - vig Jackal - vig Toad - DT Schworz - DT Palmar - ?
what did palmar claim, I'm not there yet
2. We got Toad and Palmar both claiming to be Two-Face together. And claiming they are indestructable.
3. There is a QT mason created by BC were Jackal were given the right to invite players into. + Show Spoiler +On February 09 2012 04:02 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 03:40 ico wrote: Why should anyone listen to you Radfield? You and BM are the only ones talking about that mysterious other forum (unless I missed someone). For all I know that is the scumqt and you guys make things up trying to take control.
This was listed as a Normal game with simply refluffed roles. And now people are claiming all kind of bs. Please, tell me I am wrong.
Since over half the people in this game and perhaps as many as 2/3s are aware of the "other" forum as you put it and since BM felt compelled to tell the entire game about it allow me to verify that the other forum does indeed exist. It's a QT created by BC. In that QT there are 13 players other than myself. They are there because I invited them. Not everybody that has received an invite has posted in it. Most have. But not all. There is no significant activity level difference between those that avail themselves of it and their activity in the game thread. There is no discussion going on in it that has not occurred here. The level of profanity may be a bit higher. The level of insults may be a tad greater as well. I haven't tried to quantify it. I had to send out invites prior to the end of day 1. I would have preferred to wait til the end of night 1 but that's not my call. 11 of the people I chose are all people I have played a multitude of times with. They are also for the most part all people that I hold in high regard for their ability to play this game. I chose 2 others at random towards the end of the day. If you did not get an invite don't take it personally. I reworked my list several times in order to get what I saw as a group of people that could eventually all work towards a common goal. I am well aware that this cannot happen on day one. For rest assured there is without any doubt members of the scum team in there. However this circle remains active even in the event of my death. So I chose who I felt would eventually give town the greatest chance of winning. 1 Bill Murray 2 Hiro Protagonist 3 Doctor Helvetica 4 Risk.nuke 5 Opz 6 Kitaman27 7 forumite 8 Radfield 9 Palmar 10 Chaoser 11 Wherebugsgo 12 Tyran 13 evantrees Keep your friends close. Keep your enemies closer.
4. And now the last turn of events is that Palamar is claiming that he haven't heard about the QT?
Is this right or am I missunderstanding something here?
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Now a question for the entire town:
If both Toad and Palmar are as they claim Two-Face together, could it be that one is town and the other is scum?
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On February 09 2012 05:14 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 05:06 Tunkeg wrote: Now a question for the entire town:
If both Toad and Palmar are as they claim Two-Face together, could it be that one is town and the other is scum? You're an idiot. That's impossible.
You are an asshole. But tell me why it is impossible then mr scum!
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