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On February 17 2012 00:19 rgTheSchworz wrote: No reason to let Batman still in this game. Lynch Forumite, then Batman dissapears. Then we know the scum, because DT will confirm 2 ppl, Bat will be another one.
This don't make sense, Batman should ofcourse stay in this game, he is basicly a supertownie now...
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On February 17 2012 00:20 Adam4167 wrote: Nah, he can just shoot, doesn't need to waste a night DTing.
If hes right, hugo dies. If he picks the wrong one, neither of them will die at night since Freeze is immune to batman strikes.
Well, there are reasons to why Batman just shouldn't shoot Freeze, depending on Freezes flavour of course.
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I don't like that Kurumi is teaming up with rg on this one. Both CW and scum would benefit from lynching risk if he indeed is TwoFace!
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But if he isn't then some other Two Face need to get out here and start claiming!!!
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risk claims to have checked forumite, and that forumite is Mr.Freeze
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So based on these claims we got the following options:
A) Risk is lieing B-1) Risk is telling the truth, rg is telling the truth, forumite is Hugo. B-2) Risk is telling the truth, rg is telling the truth, forumite is Batman. B-3) Risk is telling the truth, rg is telling the truth, forumite is Catwomen. C) Risk is telling the truth, rg is lieing, forumite is Mr.Freeze (or one of the other three, but not very likely).
In scenario B-2 it would be bad of us to lynch anyone. In the rest of the scenarios we got at least one scum/hostile 3rd party.
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On February 17 2012 01:15 Tunkeg wrote: So based on these claims we got the following options:
A) Risk is lieing B-1) Risk is telling the truth, rg is telling the truth, forumite is Hugo. B-2) Risk is telling the truth, rg is telling the truth, forumite is Batman. B-3) Risk is telling the truth, rg is telling the truth, forumite is Catwomen. C) Risk is telling the truth, rg is lieing, forumite is Mr.Freeze (or one of the other three, but not very likely).
In scenario B-2 it would be bad of us to lynch anyone. In the rest of the scenarios we got at least one scum/hostile 3rd party.
I obviously men lying, my english sucks...
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On February 17 2012 01:11 risk.nuke wrote: None of rg, forumite and myself are scum. This is law from now untill either the game ends or someone else claims two-face. In which case it will ceace to be a law for the abruptly 15 seconds it will take to prove that the fake-claimer is scum and that I am the real two-face.
What kind of bullshit is this? Most likely one of you are indeed scum, so this is no law...
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On February 17 2012 01:27 Tyrran wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2012 01:15 Tunkeg wrote: So based on these claims we got the following options:
A) Risk is lieing B-1) Risk is telling the truth, rg is telling the truth, forumite is Hugo. B-2) Risk is telling the truth, rg is telling the truth, forumite is Batman. B-3) Risk is telling the truth, rg is telling the truth, forumite is Catwomen. C) Risk is telling the truth, rg is lieing, forumite is Mr.Freeze (or one of the other three, but not very likely).
In scenario B-2 it would be bad of us to lynch anyone. In the rest of the scenarios we got at least one scum/hostile 3rd party. Risk claims that MrFreeze is 2 face body guard, while rG claims that it is not true. So one of them is lying. Option B is not possible .
You are correct. So this means one of them are scum.
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On February 17 2012 01:28 Tunkeg wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2012 01:27 Tyrran wrote:On February 17 2012 01:15 Tunkeg wrote: So based on these claims we got the following options:
A) Risk is lieing B-1) Risk is telling the truth, rg is telling the truth, forumite is Hugo. B-2) Risk is telling the truth, rg is telling the truth, forumite is Batman. B-3) Risk is telling the truth, rg is telling the truth, forumite is Catwomen. C) Risk is telling the truth, rg is lieing, forumite is Mr.Freeze (or one of the other three, but not very likely).
In scenario B-2 it would be bad of us to lynch anyone. In the rest of the scenarios we got at least one scum/hostile 3rd party. Risk claims that MrFreeze is 2 face body guard, while rG claims that it is not true. So one of them is lying. Option B is not possible . You are correct. So this means one of them are scum.
Unless either one of them are stupid enougt to actually think that lying as a town is in anyway beneficial to town at the moment. I see this as 0,00001% likely, not many are that stupid.
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OK, I will sheep Palmar then, EZPZ. Batman find out whos the bad apple tonight rg or risk, and help us out.
##vote VisceraEyes
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Hmm Tyrran, I hate myself for sheeping, but at least I and everyone else know I am town. But you on the other hand...
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On February 17 2012 04:48 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2012 04:47 risk.nuke wrote:On February 17 2012 02:16 Forumite wrote:On February 17 2012 02:14 Palmar wrote: yes.
I will after risk tells the truth about what his check gave. FORUMITE IS INFACT + Show Spoiler + Now it makes a lot more sense. Thanks.
Kurumi, you wouldn't kill that cute little penguin would you?
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We have no counterclaims to the blueroles anymore so this means that we pretty much have confirmed:
Furomite as Penguin Risk as Two-Face RG as Mr.Freeze Me as Solomon Grundy
Anyone wanting to counterclaim step forward now, or I will just proceed with looking at these as confirmed.
Between us we have as much power as the entire scumteam considering this lynch. Plus we got the advantage that we don't have to be afraid acting together. This means we can if we pull together and talk this trough decide this lynch.
So can all of you please propose your scumteam, and then we can discuss it from there. We can even discuss wasting CW if we get to an agreement.
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I'll do my selection based off of elimination:
Palmar isn't scum. This I am pretty sure about. If he is he have played so good he just deserves to win, and I won't spoil it. Katina isn't scum. She have been on all the right lynches all game long. Even this scumteam wouldn't bus this hard. jaybrundage I think should be off the hook as well. Evantrees was pushed by Radfield day 3, so I don't think he is scum either (not sold though) Qualis was checked and came out green (Is an odd chance that this is Hugo and that he chose VT as his cover) Kurumi is third party, he is out. Adam I grew more unsure about throughout this day, but I think he isn't scum. From the last 4 I am not sure at all, but I will leave out Tyran for now.
The other 4 is my guess for scum:
VE Hiro Jayjay RayzorFlash
And especially jayjay and razor who both have talked about Penguin having a bg in Solomon earlier in the game. I truly think you guys have discussed this in the scum QT...
On February 11 2012 20:40 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 20:32 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Don't know. It's obvious enough now that I was "hired" by Joker, so I assumed Toadesstern is Joker and that Palmar took the fake claim so that Toades wouldn't have to. Because Toades didn't call him out, I didn't push him to get lynched. I briefly considered hte possibility that they're both playing me and that the real Joker is too afraid to CC but I doubt it. One of them is the Joker.
If I survive the night the Joker can't die. I also can't be killed by Batman or Catwoman, just scum/vig. A scum/vig hit will take me out and open up the possibility of the Joker dying. That's why I need medics. I think it's pretty clear from Toades' posts regarding the issue, his claims of invulnerability, etc. that he is the real joker. I just don't understand the point of Palmar's lie, it's easy enough to keep Toades alive knowing this. Medics just need to keep me up. nice. now everything is spilled out. If scum didn't know, they know now. Might as well wrap it up for everyone. Toad was asked at one point if he "hired" someone by doc. This word apparently is in both PMs, looking at the way toad reacted. In the game Joker "hires" the past-actor clayface to carry out his jobs and to protect him. Same constellation for penguin (btw: doc, you said in your case that opz claimed penguin? was that in the qt? he sure talks about him a lot) and solomon (please don't claim). Knowing the lore, it was quite obvious that Toad is joker. Let's see if I would have lost the bet. Unfortunately, medics don't do shit against batman, doc. I can't believed, you let yourselves lead into so much brabbeling. also, rG, I am still waiting, I know you read this.
On February 14 2012 02:44 RayzorFlash wrote: It does make sense for penguin to have a bodyguard vet too, probably Solomon Grundy (fits game lore/theme)
My problem with a hiro lynch is that even if he is mafia, which i think is decently likely, it gives us next to no real info... I'd rather lynch radfield/palmar... I actually wouldnt mind a palmar lynch just because his posts and claims have started to give me.a headache,lol...
##vote: Radfield
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3 of these 4 players are on the Kurumi lynch. So I think they are trying to save their scumbuddy. Now for theorycrafting on lynching CW over scum today...
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On February 17 2012 06:59 VisceraEyes wrote: Tunkeg - why do you think I'm scum guy? WHY? You're acting as if I'm confirmed scum when THAT'S NOT THE CASE IN THE LEAST.
Seriously, I want to win and lynching me is a guaranteed loss - basically lynching anyone but Catwoman is a guaranteed loss, but I really want to know why you want to lynch ME specifically. What is the case on me?
The case for me seing you as more scummy than town is your behaviour during the Radfield lynch. Rest of town seems more townie than you, so thats it basicly.
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So this is how I view it after thinking it through:
Both scenarios that are most likely gives us the same lead after night 4. But I have reviewed my thoughts, and this is why I think taking out CW is better- So this is why I am inclined to swap to Kurumi (sorry man :/) : -We take out a guaranteed kp if we hit. -We won't have a guaranteed kill of a town PR night 4.
So you guys were pretty much right about killing Kurumi. I still think most of the scumteam is on Kurumi, because they want to save VE. But I still think town is better off with killing CW, and for you guys to shoot some reds tonight.
##vote Kurumi
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On February 17 2012 07:13 VisceraEyes wrote: But that's ridiculous! I fully believed that Radfield was a DT - his claim matched up with my suspicion of Sheth. Why in the hell would I not believe his claim? I'd been pushing Sheth's lynch for 2 days! And Radfield is a beast player to be a DT bro. Kitaman knew what was up, he was fully against a Radfield lynch too. Kita flipped blue bro, not scum.
I'm telling you, the Rad thing was a mistake. I'm not scum sir.
But you could see why I would suspect someone defending Radfield as hard as you did over someone going for him? In retrospect that is, after knowing he was scum. You are right on Kita, and I was 100% ready to lynch Kita for it. I didn't like his claim abit, all good it did was to get him lynched :/
The thing is I see Palmar as Batman. Katina, jaybrundage, Evantrees, Qualis, Adam and Tyran as more townie than you. So which one of them, based on the actions thus far in the game would you put as scum?
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On February 17 2012 07:27 hiro protagonist wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2012 07:22 Tunkeg wrote:So this is how I view it after thinking it through: Both scenarios that are most likely gives us the same lead after night 4. But I have reviewed my thoughts, and this is why I think taking out CW is better- So this is why I am inclined to swap to Kurumi (sorry man :/) : -We take out a guaranteed kp if we hit. -We won't have a guaranteed kill of a town PR night 4.So you guys were pretty much right about killing Kurumi. I still think most of the scumteam is on Kurumi, because they want to save VE. But I still think town is better off with killing CW, and for you guys to shoot some reds tonight. ##vote Kurumi This is wrong, CW fires into the dark IN HOPES of hitting his target, but the funny thing is, is that the person he shoots might be scum. Scum never mis-shots. They always aim into town. BTW, Im catching up on the thread right now, but just wanted to drop this in for now.
The thing is CW knows her target by now. They have both claimed. Her shots will pierce through any protection. Scums shots will not do the same. Scum might opt to shoot 3 townies besides the 4 of us that have claimed, but then they will be in serious trouble the next day. As we 4 are confirmed and the elimination process gets easier...
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