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There's no reassurance that anyone is town, Wiggles. I'm interested to see what he does with the item, as that will be more of an indicator of his alignment than discussing whether or not he's worthy of the item.
I don't "trust" Palmar, but I know he's smart/experienced enough to know what to do and what not to do with the item if he's town, so I "trust" that I'll be able to gauge his alignment based on how he acts with it.
What do you suggest we do Wiggles? Wait for a confirmed town before we get the item? So do you suggest we kill BM to test his alignment to confirm myself and Snarfs so that one of us can get it? Does that not seem like a horrifying waste of PoPs to you?
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No thanks, I'm good. Palmar's just about there, I'd rather we get him across the finish instead.
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Oh Wiggles, you're a pleasure bro. ^^
I'm not acting "incredibly defensive", I'm trying get things done. Palmar volunteered to get the item, I'm okay with him getting the item, I made a move. If anything I'm being very proactive and decisive.
If you want to try and cast my decisions in a scummy light, you're going to do a little more than twisting my words around to sound scummier than they are. From your post I assumed you wanted a confirmed townie to have the item - clearly I was mistaken. But when you say things like "we have no assurances" and "how do you know he can be trusted" it seems like you want something concrete, which means "confirmed townie".
I mean, feel free to PoP me if you really want me dead Wiggles...but you doing so after only one "shady" post seems pretty hypocritical to me sir.
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On April 02 2012 09:05 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 08:06 wherebugsgo wrote: prplhz, please tell me who you would like to kill today and why.
Tell me additionally what you think of syllogism, VE, and layabout. How about Tobon? Nothing in his filter even though he calls out for scum hunting, most of it is just pointing out random stuff and summarizing the thread. I'm not decided yet but he's looking pretty bad. Why are you asking about those three specifically?
I have no idea why we are sending Palmar for that item. It's not really that powerful and we can still determine his alignment without him getting it (well, it wouldn't hurt if he would post a little more). wherebugsgo already pointed out potential dangers, scum could have a hidden PoP role, like a PoP Floridian Toy, and then they could pull (push) Palmar over the edge when he gets the item. killing one of the best town players. This is really risky and I'm totally against it and I think people should have thought more carefully about this before going through with it, and then they should have concluded that it wasn't worth it at all.
"...and then they should have concluded that it wasn't worth it at all"
Like, what does that even mean? You guys are boring me with all this walking on broken glass bullshit.
Whatever, I'll just vote with town and let you guys PoP me to the edge for "trying to shirk responsibility for my actions" or something stupid.
Enact whatever retarded "alternative voting system" you want. I won't be participating, but promise to vote for whoever you Jubs want to vote for.
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Watch me?! Watch me watch you Bugs! I SEE YOU!!!
What do you think sir? I'd like your thoughts on Syllogism, layabout and MrWiggles sir. WATCH ME AWAIT YOUR RESPONSE!!!
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I don't know if I want to save Palmar yet...he hasn't really done much in the way of scumhunting and he's certainly not contributing in any other way. I'm actually cool with him being where he's at if he intends to keep up this quality of play. ^^
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Zentor, you should do something rather than pretend to be angry about the actions of others.
So do you think that the people who pulled Palmar are scum? Does you voicing your frustration help you find scum? Does it help me? Does it help town?
Now, if Palmar is town, he'll use the item to help town. If he's not, then he'll use it to hurt town. Lucky for us, we get to be part of it either way because we know he got something and we have control over whether he lives or dies.
And, with all this naysaying between Bugs and the Jubs, chances are Palmar will be back to contribute something before anyone lets him have the item, and he's only ONE push deep into the red-zone in the meantime. How about you just chill out and look for scum rather than get worked up over my actions? It'll be a blast, we can kill the scums TOGETHER!
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role=/=alignment
come on bill
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On April 02 2012 11:07 Bill Murray wrote: VE I understand what you're doing, but everyone has a role this game Me creating myself as a townie? Oh well, I'm looking to scumhunt anyways. Creating 2 town in the process if I get mislynched or killed is gravy on the potatoes.
Got any leads you want to discuss rather than try and alter my playstyle? How do you feel about a Bluelightz lynch? Who else is pinging the ol' scumdar?
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Would 8 pushes be sufficient to put Bluelightz in the incineration zone given normal circumstances?
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So Bugs is confirmed scum, maybe Wiggles.
Anyone wanna check my math?
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On April 02 2012 12:25 Tobon wrote: Hey! I've been off at Emerald City Comic-Con for the day, will read through and respond more in a bit. Thought I'd point out, though, that Nemesis's push of me didn't have the effect you'd expect. I skipped by spot 11. Which maybe makes Acrofales the double-wide big toy?
Or Nemisis is a super-strong double-pushing toy. Very interesting. VERY.
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I don't know man, you're being all like careful and diplomatic and shit. Being reasonable is a scumtell with you Bugs. You haven't called me or Palmar scum or retarded once yet. And to top it off, you mistakenly "thought" that it takes 15 pushes to lynch Blue.
Something's going on with you, I'm just sayin. I'M JUST SAYING GUY
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And the fact that Wiggles didn't correct you makes me think that he's scum with you. It's a hunch. A HUNCH SIR
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Hold on a second.
##Push: Bluelightz
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I mean, it's just a feeling. I like a Bluelightz lynch obviously, and this flip won't tell me anything about your alignment. I don't expect you to respond or anything because it's not even a case - I'm just saying. Prove me wrong guy.
Wiggles, I don't know what you're doing, but your one piece of advice from last game was "let's make a conscious effort to not wind people up this game" and you seem to be attempting to wind me up. It's contradictory man, and I don't like it.
And to all you lurkers out there... + Show Spoiler [I got somethin for ya] +
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Well, I expect Bugs to be a good enough player to know how the voting works...earlier when we were discussing Blue I just kinda assumed he was right when he counted the pushes we required but when I realized that we only need 8 to put him in the incineration zone, it made me wonder what the oversight was on Bugs' part. I pushed Blue early because A) while there's been some discussion about it, no one has stepped up to the plate and actually pushed the guy, and B) because I wanted to see if Bugs knew something I didn't about the number of votes it's going to take to get Blue into the zone.
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On April 02 2012 20:09 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 18:48 prplhz wrote: @Palmar It's quite cool that you have that ability but you can't seriously have been thinking of using it without informing town first? People have started to push people toward the red zone and all that work would be undone if you just flip the queue.
Why do you want to kill someone for bads? That seems like a rather poor reason when we're supposed to kill people for scum. Is there anybody you want to kill for scum? I do whatever I feel like without asking anyone in particular. I'm not sure who I want to kill for scum right now.
Push Bluelightz. It's great fun.
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On April 02 2012 20:09 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 18:48 prplhz wrote: @Palmar It's quite cool that you have that ability but you can't seriously have been thinking of using it without informing town first? People have started to push people toward the red zone and all that work would be undone if you just flip the queue.
Why do you want to kill someone for bads? That seems like a rather poor reason when we're supposed to kill people for scum. Is there anybody you want to kill for scum? I do whatever I feel like without asking anyone in particular. I'm not sure who I want to kill for scum right now.
At least you're contributing to the hunt for scum though, AMIRITE?
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