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On April 14 2012 07:41 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2012 07:07 GMarshal wrote:On April 14 2012 06:56 froggynoddy wrote:Ok, sorry for lack of activity, built a mobile donkey shelter and then went to restaurant... too much Cognac. Back to the game: Comparing campaigners content, I would like to vote for GM. He makes by far the most sense out of all those running for mayor. He isn't gimicky, he isnt super pro PM-ing (which admittedly has its uses late game, but seems to confuse the hell out of stuff early game), and his stance regarding 'enlightened despot' vs 'democrat' appeals to me. What I don't like is his vote on Sandroba. Similarlyto the premise 'push a lynch that you believe will most likely result in scum flip', our votes for Mayor should be 'who you think is most likely to summarily execute scum'. So my question to you (GM) is this: You don't know that Sandroba is town, if you are town then you know for sure that you are town, threrfore you are most likely to find scum. Therefore why vote for Sandroba unless he's your scumbuddy, I don't get it . Because sandro is my strongest town read ^_^ Also I hardly ever vote for myself in elections, its not respectable. Its not a matter of logic, its a simple matter of if I can vote for the guy running against me and he votes for me, its the same net result, but its much more elegant. Is it stupid? Probably. I'm going to do it anyway. If you don't believe you're the best candidate why the hell should anybody else? I do believe I'm the best candidate, I just don't vote for myself. (unless it looks like scum might win)
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On April 14 2012 07:56 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2012 07:45 GMarshal wrote:On April 14 2012 07:41 Jackal58 wrote:On April 14 2012 07:07 GMarshal wrote:On April 14 2012 06:56 froggynoddy wrote:Ok, sorry for lack of activity, built a mobile donkey shelter and then went to restaurant... too much Cognac. Back to the game: Comparing campaigners content, I would like to vote for GM. He makes by far the most sense out of all those running for mayor. He isn't gimicky, he isnt super pro PM-ing (which admittedly has its uses late game, but seems to confuse the hell out of stuff early game), and his stance regarding 'enlightened despot' vs 'democrat' appeals to me. What I don't like is his vote on Sandroba. Similarlyto the premise 'push a lynch that you believe will most likely result in scum flip', our votes for Mayor should be 'who you think is most likely to summarily execute scum'. So my question to you (GM) is this: You don't know that Sandroba is town, if you are town then you know for sure that you are town, threrfore you are most likely to find scum. Therefore why vote for Sandroba unless he's your scumbuddy, I don't get it . Because sandro is my strongest town read ^_^ Also I hardly ever vote for myself in elections, its not respectable. Its not a matter of logic, its a simple matter of if I can vote for the guy running against me and he votes for me, its the same net result, but its much more elegant. Is it stupid? Probably. I'm going to do it anyway. If you don't believe you're the best candidate why the hell should anybody else? I do believe I'm the best candidate, I just don't vote for myself. (unless it looks like scum might win) And you have a list of all the scum candidates in front of you? No, I do know a couple of people who are reasonably town and a couple who are leaning scum though.
I've done this pretty much every game I've run for any kind of position, you should be aware of this jackal.
Any solid reads yet, by the way?
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On April 14 2012 14:16 Sinensis wrote: I would rather randomly elect a captain than trust the people around me with votes. We could use inca vs nestea results as the seed value in a random number generator? (possible seed values if we use a bo3 SC match are 03, 30, 13, 31, 23, 32) This is stupid and means no one has to commit to any reads as far as electing a captain goes, everything can be blamed on the rng, up to and including the very stupid lynch that will happen when an easily swayed player gets the captaincy.
On April 14 2012 10:30 Ace wrote: GMarshal what are these plans you're talking about in PM land?
Nothing that the thread needs to know about. Loose lips sink towns and all that. Nothing convoluted or involving everyone claiming to me. Many many traps for stupid scum. Nothing for you to worry about.
On April 14 2012 08:30 Node wrote: GM, I'm curious about your stance on sandroba's rolefishing. I find it interesting that he's your strongest town read, but you would rather place yourself in the potentially protected role of captain when it seems he's ending up with a copious amount of delicate information -- which I assume you support, since it apparently isn't affecting your town read.
My read isn't affected by sandrobas "rolefishing" no. Lets just say I understand why he is doing what he is doing, even if its not the style I like to play. Remember, setups like this are most easaly broken by a mass private claim to a almost certain, or confirmed townie. Of course you need to think that sandroba is an almost certain townie to follow his plan.
People I'm thinking of lynching right now:
Node: Node is sitting at that wonderful threshold of activity where he isn't quite a lurker, but isn't exactly a contributing member. This is exactly where scum like to sit.
l10f- He's a writer! Death to all pens! Actually, he is more of a lurker, what bothers me is that his obligatory "chime in" post is a non-commital rehash of what Ace said. His suggestion that mafia would bus each other to get the capitancy is kind of stupid.
froggynoddy This guy has the strongest case against him tight now, he has a couple tell tale signs that point him out as newbie scum
On April 14 2012 06:56 froggynoddy wrote:Ok, sorry for lack of activity, built a mobile donkey shelter and then went to restaurant... too much Cognac. Back to the game: You don't know that Sandroba is town, if you are town then you know for sure that you are town, threrfore you are most likely to find scum. Therefore why vote for Sandroba unless he's your scumbuddy, I don't get it .
Two things in this post 1.) Apologizing for something that needs no apology. This is a sign of a guilty conscience much like what gave up Misder in Ver's XXX analysis. I did this all the time as the mole in PYP:Interesting, and Radfeild caught me out on it, so I'm always attentively looking for this kind of unnecessary apology.
2.) His issue with me trusting sandroba. This is typical of scum trying to subvert trust. "Why would you trust him OMG!" is the typical scum response to fast, uncontrollable circles of trust forming, and is basically how they express frustration while trying to discredit them in the thread.
On April 14 2012 18:16 froggynoddy wrote: I don't see the Sandroba town thing, plus surely at this early stage the only town read that could be described as in any way strong is yourself.
Also we should vote for the person who least wants the captaincy, far more likely to be town imo.
##Vote Ace
Again, we see him actively discrediting town reads, which are actually vitally important in PM games as well as an excellent tool for weeding out scum.
Look at his posts, most are focused on discrediting sandroba, without once calling him scum, its basically "I don't see how people trust him" not "he could be scum guys". Subtley his wording gives away that he knows sandroba is town, and is both angry and clueless as to how others without privileged information have discovered the same thing.
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I like how my case on froggynoddy got buried in Zentor cases.
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On April 15 2012 04:23 chaoser wrote: also...where is GM... On my phone, out and about. Can't exactly write huge posts.
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On April 15 2012 04:30 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2012 04:28 GMarshal wrote:On April 15 2012 04:23 chaoser wrote: also...where is GM... On my phone, out and about. Can't exactly write huge posts. skype date tonight kk?? Sure thing ^_^
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Back, haven't read beyond the daypost yet.
Missed the last six hours of yesterday sitting in an emergency room worrying about whether or not I would lose my right eye, so sorry I didn't update, I had other things on my mind. (Including agonizing pain, what fun!)
Will explain more when I get back from my optometrist appointment. I have at least one game changing revelation.
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Back, my pupils are dilated so looking at a bright screen hurts my eyes, these are the sacrifices I make for you guys.
Someone wanted I picture I think, so here you go + Show Spoiler [pic] +
Explaining the froggy lynch. I submitted it to Dr.H about the same time I left the thread (after promising chaoser a skype date) and I decided to leave froggy as my "contingency" lynch because I had provided some form of explanation. If I didn't make it back it had more behind it that say a l10f lynch. The plan was simply to leave for a few hours, see the reactions to the case, and find a better lynch target.
I obviously didn't make it back to change it, so thats what you guys got. No apologies about that. Screen glare is making me tear up so I'll post more when the dilation wears off in a couple hours.
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This is your captain speaking!
Sandroba will be here soon with a game changing revelation.
Stay tuned.
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So, I had a retinal detachment yesterday as a result of an allergic reaction to some of eyedrops I was given. Had another fun filled day in a hospital -__-
This is not my week.
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