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ebwop:
On May 06 2012 16:14 l10f wrote:Just read through all of the filters.
Don't really have anyone looking too incriminating but I take back my suspicions on layabout. I'm satisfied with how he defended so far. I also think grush is town based on katina's posts before he died. Blazinghand is confirmed now with his shot? ghost_403 hasn't said a thing since this + Show Spoiler +On May 04 2012 00:20 ghost_403 wrote:Sinesis rolled scum. Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 12:23 Sinensis wrote:On May 03 2012 09:42 grush57 wrote: ##vote: Katina SWEET A BANDWAGON IS FORMING! I think I'll hop on it without explaining myself! On May 03 2012 10:18 grush57 wrote: Alright awesome we know the aggressive people now.
##unvote Katina NEVERMIND, they're onto me! ##vote: grush57 I was not expecting to have a vote so early this game with all the people. This post screams "I want to look useful to the town without actually thinking about what's going on." Good Day 1 lynch. ##vote sinesis and his own post can apply to himself as well. I'll put my vote on him for now, and reassess later in the day.
Note:bold. "I've looked into everyone and no one's scummy."
Now that ghost is back you can make your reassessment. I don't see how you could have possibly looked through everyone's filter and not find anything scummy besides ghost's lack of posting.
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+ Show Spoiler [Nova_Terra] +On May 05 2012 00:16 Nova_Terra wrote: 2. Just wrong, I can have scumreads that i do not feel should be posted until i can get more infos to back them up. as i do.
He's withholding his scumreads for the reason "until i can get more infors to back them up." 6 hours later.... On May 05 2012 06:00 Nova_Terra wrote: In accordance with popular demand, i will share my top scumread which is currently Mementoss (not based on OMGUS)
mementoss starts off suggesting to policy lynch two people, etc. Makes a few totally unneccessary 1 liners, and then when he is called out on it he goes NO WAIT i has reason, then decided to teach us, which just came off freaking weird. Then he goes aggressive on layabout, throwing suspicion while not doing much of anything, then joins the Grush did something scummy this looks really bad group. not original. then after blazing notes something on me he joins in that too, and makes remarks in an unsure way, seeming to want to be able to backtrack if necessary. then, when called out on it, he goes into defensive aggression mode and suddenly gains massive confidence which hadnt been in his play before. Overall 1liners Enlightens us on 1 liners throws suspicion while not doing much at all joins scummy bandwagon seems unsure agrees with an Oh i noticed the same thing! makes arguments based on my meta, which is questionable entirely based on the fact that i never play this lurky, town or scum randomly gets massively confident, as opposed to his earlier play, its as if someone told him to be more sure
and so ##Vote: Mementoss
A brutally weak case against MT that was probably thrown together in 3 minutes. He said he withheld his scumreads to get more info, and 6 hours later that's all he comes up with. That was his ONLY OPINION, his ONLY SCUMREAD this whole game. The rest of his filter consists of useless one-liners. I'd be okay with lynching him today.
On Marvel: I retract the statement I made of him earlier because I realize that he's playing exactly to his town meta (town meta's not a good reason ikno but work with me here.) He start's off slow D1 and D2 but the pace is greatly increased as late-game rolls around. I don't think a lynch on him today would be too wise. I want to see him pick up the pace and start making the quality cases that I read from LIII.
And now the case: + Show Spoiler +On May 05 2012 05:53 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 05:49 layabout wrote: Look how few votes the candidate have
Look how weak the cases are
Look how easily the 5 player scumteam could swing the vote
See how unlikely we are to hit mafia
Lynch a player that will be anti town either way. Vote BillMurray Sold, I don't have a solid scumread on anyone and BM is just useless and anti-town no matter his alignment. Which is taking the horrendously lazy way out. he then gives us this: On May 05 2012 19:53 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 15:12 DoYouHas wrote: There is no question in my mind that Palmar should be the next one on the chopping block. It is like he is trolling the town, waiting to see just how much he can get away with before we lynch him. His posts are a joke, he has been lurking in spite of being called out numerous times, and he tops it all off with a ninja vote onto a townie bandwagon. Unless something drastic changes, I want Palmar dead tomorrow. I'm down with this, but I also want to look at layabout as he seems to have a few people poking him. But a few hours later he completely drops layabout and makes a (very) small post calling out I10f + Show Spoiler [seen here] +On May 06 2012 03:48 marvellosity wrote:Sup l10f. Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 09:06 l10f wrote:Hey guys, I'm town this game ^____________^ On May 03 2012 08:39 Katina wrote: Mr. Blazinghand I say this once and once only. I'm not mafia. Point your Blazinghand at someone who actually deserves it. Who do you think actually deserves it then? Not many people have posted yet, not too many people to blame. You've just stood out among the few~ Doesn't mean you're mafia, every discussion helps though! Let's kinda point some fingers... but not call someone scummy at the same time. Let's discuss things, yay! Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 13:00 l10f wrote: Sorry guys, it was last day of class and I was very busy!
Grush suspected both Katina and sinani, and DoYouHas had a strong case on Katina as well.
Layabout defending Katina and convinced the town to vote for BM instead. I suspect him of being scum. The remaining two scums are probably also in the BM bandwagon near the middle. Fluffy apology. Summary summary summary. Fingerpointing followed by some nice unprovable speculation about the BM lynch. Anything concrete to say? Which also strikes me as odd because he doesn't mention I10f again. Marv's contributing and there's better options on the table right now.
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I'm going to be putting my vote on NT for now. ##Vote Nova_Terra
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Oh yeah Marvel start contributing moar. "I don't have a scumread" isn't good enough. There's 19 people here, I don't see how you couldn't have an FoS on someone unless you're just refusing to scumhunt.
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Eiii was complaining N1 about not having discussions at night, but he has yet to post today.
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On May 07 2012 04:37 Nova_Terra wrote: Next, Kenpachi Absolutely worthless, if you consider his connection case useful i dunno what to say Vote: Kenpachi
Quit lurking.
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Eiii you're either misunderstanding layabout on purpose or you haven't read the thread.
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On May 07 2012 05:30 l10f wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 02:18 ghost_403 wrote: I have a confession: I can't actually read. Summary of ghost's posts since he got back. Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 04:23 Eiii wrote: l10f just jumps on the layabout train and posts a bunch of stuff that're basically exact copies of cases others have made before him (specifically Sinensis). Memetoss hasn't really changed much in my book-- it's worth noting that he copies sinensis' layabout case as well, though that seems less like a pretending-to-contribute thing and more like a jumping-on-the-bandwagon thing since his posts otherwise seem significant enough. For now, I don't want to lynch him anymore because yesterday's flips made some people look really bad (aka layabout).
On david vs panda: I dunno. Both have been pretty inconsequential this game from my perspective, so they'd be better to shoot if anything.
So anyway, I'm going to vote for layabout. All the other accusations are good, but one thing most people are missing is that if we had lynched BM and the modkills hadn't happened, we'd be completely lost right now. Lynching a lurker who had done almost literally nothing because he 'might hurt town' gives us zero information. We'd all still be running around in the chaos of day one on day two if kat/206 hadn't fucked up. Between that and the kat defense, I'm throwing my vote on him. If lay flips red then marvel is worth looking at just because of being so associated with both layabout and kat day one. OMG THESE BANDWAGONERS SUCK --> joins layabout bandwagon wat Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 04:55 Eiii wrote: Since you're so interested in what my plan is if you flip green: I'll probably say 'darn' and apologize for voting for the wrong person. And you'll be dead. I'm willing to take that chance, though!
I like my chances better on you than layabout! And if you're green, darn, sorry! ##vote: Eiii
You said you've read through everyone's filter, so who else do you think is scummy?
+ Show Spoiler +On May 07 2012 05:35 Sinensis wrote: People were quick to agree that layabout was scum, but they are even quicker to agree that Nova_Terra is scum... probably because Nova_Terra is an easy target with his "I don't have time to make posts that aren't scummy" attitude.
I am still probably going to vote layabout today but at the rate things are going, I wouldn't mind hitting Nova_Terra if consolidation needs to happen. Papapanda is a lesser priority right now, but people should still have eyes on him. On May 07 2012 02:31 PaqMan wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2012 06:18 Sinensis wrote:On May 06 2012 05:44 PaqMan wrote:I don't like BlackRaven's posting. He has only two posts that are of any sort of significance. + Show Spoiler [BR's two significant posts] +On May 04 2012 03:51 BlackRaven wrote:Cool, lets's go Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 02:47 DoYouHas wrote: Palmar's confrontational and empty 1 liners make it impossible to get a read on him. (anti-town) He is shutting down conversation instead of fostering it. (anti-town) I have no interest in keeping someone around who I won't be able to get a handle on and who I think is hurting the town.
##Vote: Palmar Firstly, confrontational and empty is an oxymoron in Mafia. Confrontation brings discussion. Discussion good. Discussion not make posts empty. Secondly, not having a read on someone does not make him anti-town. It makes him just another player in the game. It sure as hell isn't a reason to vote him. Thirdly.....well see the first point about your second one. He got you talking didn't he? :3 All this post achieves is soft-defending Palmar and nothing moreOn May 04 2012 03:53 BlackRaven wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 03:47 DoYouHas wrote:On May 04 2012 03:42 BlackRaven wrote:On May 04 2012 03:30 DoYouHas wrote: Oh, and btw. You are defending Palmar by attacking the person going after him. You discredit me and Palmar no longer has a need to respond. This is wrong - D How is fitting the definition of a chainsaw defense wrong? If a player ever uses a chainsaw defence as an actual defence they are scum there is no leeway about it and its bad play all around. People should never use other peoples arguments to make them appear either townie or scum its just bad play and they deserve to be lynched if they do so. Me and Hassy both still expect things from Palmar at some stage we just both dislike you at the moment. -D This entire post is just an altercation with DYH and contributes nothing of value except for the fact that BR doesn't like DYH. BR's entire filter literally contains nothing more than pointless one-liners. The only thing he's done is ask other people questions and make comments to the side that add no value to discussion. He doesn't make any scumreads nor does he form serious opinions on people. And his D1 vote: On May 05 2012 03:22 BlackRaven wrote: You know I liked layabout at the start but now he is probably going to cause more harm than if I was a medic...
##Vote: layabout
-D
goes without any sort of good explanation besides "I like him, now I don't." I see him as a possible lynch candidate if he doesn't pick it up and he's earned my FoS I don't like basing decisions on meta, but I can say having played with BlackRaven in the past... lots of confrontational 1 liners is par for the course for his town play. I am null on him at the moment and I believe there are better targets at the moment. Sinensis I'd like to see your reads.
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On May 07 2012 05:44 Sinensis wrote: PacMan why do you keep asking me for my reads I have already posted them. Go read my filter instead of quoting yourself over and over again.
I did read your filter and your only FoS so far is on layabout.
And please explain this:
On May 06 2012 06:18 Sinensis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2012 05:44 PaqMan wrote:I don't like BlackRaven's posting. He has only two posts that are of any sort of significance. + Show Spoiler [BR's two significant posts] +On May 04 2012 03:51 BlackRaven wrote:Cool, lets's go Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 02:47 DoYouHas wrote: Palmar's confrontational and empty 1 liners make it impossible to get a read on him. (anti-town) He is shutting down conversation instead of fostering it. (anti-town) I have no interest in keeping someone around who I won't be able to get a handle on and who I think is hurting the town.
##Vote: Palmar Firstly, confrontational and empty is an oxymoron in Mafia. Confrontation brings discussion. Discussion good. Discussion not make posts empty. Secondly, not having a read on someone does not make him anti-town. It makes him just another player in the game. It sure as hell isn't a reason to vote him. Thirdly.....well see the first point about your second one. He got you talking didn't he? :3 All this post achieves is soft-defending Palmar and nothing moreOn May 04 2012 03:53 BlackRaven wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 03:47 DoYouHas wrote:On May 04 2012 03:42 BlackRaven wrote:On May 04 2012 03:30 DoYouHas wrote: Oh, and btw. You are defending Palmar by attacking the person going after him. You discredit me and Palmar no longer has a need to respond. This is wrong - D How is fitting the definition of a chainsaw defense wrong? If a player ever uses a chainsaw defence as an actual defence they are scum there is no leeway about it and its bad play all around. People should never use other peoples arguments to make them appear either townie or scum its just bad play and they deserve to be lynched if they do so. Me and Hassy both still expect things from Palmar at some stage we just both dislike you at the moment. -D This entire post is just an altercation with DYH and contributes nothing of value except for the fact that BR doesn't like DYH. BR's entire filter literally contains nothing more than pointless one-liners. The only thing he's done is ask other people questions and make comments to the side that add no value to discussion. He doesn't make any scumreads nor does he form serious opinions on people. And his D1 vote: On May 05 2012 03:22 BlackRaven wrote: You know I liked layabout at the start but now he is probably going to cause more harm than if I was a medic...
##Vote: layabout
-D
goes without any sort of good explanation besides "I like him, now I don't." I see him as a possible lynch candidate if he doesn't pick it up and he's earned my FoS I don't like basing decisions on meta, but I can say having played with BlackRaven in the past... lots of confrontational 1 liners is par for the course for his town play. I am null on him at the moment and I believe there are better targets at the moment.
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I'm taking my vote off NT for now.
+ Show Spoiler [I10f] +On May 07 2012 05:30 l10f wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 02:18 ghost_403 wrote: I have a confession: I can't actually read. Summary of ghost's posts since he got back. Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 04:23 Eiii wrote: l10f just jumps on the layabout train and posts a bunch of stuff that're basically exact copies of cases others have made before him (specifically Sinensis). Memetoss hasn't really changed much in my book-- it's worth noting that he copies sinensis' layabout case as well, though that seems less like a pretending-to-contribute thing and more like a jumping-on-the-bandwagon thing since his posts otherwise seem significant enough. For now, I don't want to lynch him anymore because yesterday's flips made some people look really bad (aka layabout).
On david vs panda: I dunno. Both have been pretty inconsequential this game from my perspective, so they'd be better to shoot if anything.
So anyway, I'm going to vote for layabout. All the other accusations are good, but one thing most people are missing is that if we had lynched BM and the modkills hadn't happened, we'd be completely lost right now. Lynching a lurker who had done almost literally nothing because he 'might hurt town' gives us zero information. We'd all still be running around in the chaos of day one on day two if kat/206 hadn't fucked up. Between that and the kat defense, I'm throwing my vote on him. If lay flips red then marvel is worth looking at just because of being so associated with both layabout and kat day one. OMG THESE BANDWAGONERS SUCK --> joins layabout bandwagon wat Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 04:55 Eiii wrote: Since you're so interested in what my plan is if you flip green: I'll probably say 'darn' and apologize for voting for the wrong person. And you'll be dead. I'm willing to take that chance, though!
I like my chances better on you than layabout! And if you're green, darn, sorry! ##vote: Eiii Can you elaborate on this? Like, explain your vote more thoroughly?
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Eiii you're misinterpreting layabout on purpose and it's not looking good for you. That's fine and dandy if you think he's scum, I have no problem with that. But your reason "defended another scum" is complete bullshit and totally invalid. Despite being pointed out MULTIPLE TIMES, you're still using it as a reason to convict layabout as scum.
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On May 07 2012 10:32 Sinensis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 05:55 PaqMan wrote:On May 07 2012 05:44 Sinensis wrote: PacMan why do you keep asking me for my reads I have already posted them. Go read my filter instead of quoting yourself over and over again. I did read your filter and your only FoS so far is on layabout. And please explain this: On May 06 2012 06:18 Sinensis wrote:On May 06 2012 05:44 PaqMan wrote:I don't like BlackRaven's posting. He has only two posts that are of any sort of significance. + Show Spoiler [BR's two significant posts] +On May 04 2012 03:51 BlackRaven wrote:Cool, lets's go Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 02:47 DoYouHas wrote: Palmar's confrontational and empty 1 liners make it impossible to get a read on him. (anti-town) He is shutting down conversation instead of fostering it. (anti-town) I have no interest in keeping someone around who I won't be able to get a handle on and who I think is hurting the town.
##Vote: Palmar Firstly, confrontational and empty is an oxymoron in Mafia. Confrontation brings discussion. Discussion good. Discussion not make posts empty. Secondly, not having a read on someone does not make him anti-town. It makes him just another player in the game. It sure as hell isn't a reason to vote him. Thirdly.....well see the first point about your second one. He got you talking didn't he? :3 All this post achieves is soft-defending Palmar and nothing moreOn May 04 2012 03:53 BlackRaven wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 03:47 DoYouHas wrote:On May 04 2012 03:42 BlackRaven wrote:On May 04 2012 03:30 DoYouHas wrote: Oh, and btw. You are defending Palmar by attacking the person going after him. You discredit me and Palmar no longer has a need to respond. This is wrong - D How is fitting the definition of a chainsaw defense wrong? If a player ever uses a chainsaw defence as an actual defence they are scum there is no leeway about it and its bad play all around. People should never use other peoples arguments to make them appear either townie or scum its just bad play and they deserve to be lynched if they do so. Me and Hassy both still expect things from Palmar at some stage we just both dislike you at the moment. -D This entire post is just an altercation with DYH and contributes nothing of value except for the fact that BR doesn't like DYH. BR's entire filter literally contains nothing more than pointless one-liners. The only thing he's done is ask other people questions and make comments to the side that add no value to discussion. He doesn't make any scumreads nor does he form serious opinions on people. And his D1 vote: On May 05 2012 03:22 BlackRaven wrote: You know I liked layabout at the start but now he is probably going to cause more harm than if I was a medic...
##Vote: layabout
-D
goes without any sort of good explanation besides "I like him, now I don't." I see him as a possible lynch candidate if he doesn't pick it up and he's earned my FoS I don't like basing decisions on meta, but I can say having played with BlackRaven in the past... lots of confrontational 1 liners is par for the course for his town play. I am null on him at the moment and I believe there are better targets at the moment. Can you not read? I'll read it for you. It means I don't like basing decisions on information outside of the game... but that having played with mattchew/D before lots of confrontational 1 liners seems normal for town play. I go on to say that I am null on him and that there are other priorities to consider first.
I was curious as to how you could of played with BR in the past because he's a hydra and this is the only game played on that account.
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+ Show Spoiler [Addressing DYH's points] +On May 07 2012 10:59 DoYouHas wrote: -His votes on Grush and BM were poorly justified.
apparently so was everyone else's. On May 07 2012 10:59 DoYouHas wrote: -He went after slOosh both when he was correct about sinani and when he was correct about Katina.
That doesn't (or didn't) make him insta-town like everyone seemed to have thought. On May 07 2012 10:59 DoYouHas wrote: -He repeatedly brought up BH's mistakes in past games which I think served to undermine the town leadership role BH was establishing.
I brought it up one time, which was to prove a point to SlOosh about him sheeping his vote. I had no intention to "undermine the town leadership" or whatever the hell you're talking about. On May 07 2012 10:59 DoYouHas wrote:-Starting with this post Katina seemed like a buzzword for PM. Mentioning Katina seems to draw more attention from PM than is warranted IMO. Exactly like I said earlier, I was curious because layabout made an analysis but didn't conclude with a read. And then I looked back and figured out why.
I don't like how big of a train that has started on NT, which is why I've taken my vote off.
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Just found out that I'm probably going to miss the lynch. I guess it doesn't bother anyone how fast a wagon formed on NT? I don't feel comfortable putting my vote back onto him.
Hence this quote:
On May 06 2012 07:11 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2012 06:48 Blazinghand wrote:Yeah, I shot Palmar. He looked like scum to me. I gave him the benefit of the doubt D1 but he didn't contribute and was silent, as scum Palmar tends to be. Here's my crumb: On May 06 2012 03:27 Blazinghand wrote: Man this situation just makes me want to eat my own heart Type "eat heart of" into google search (but don't hit enter) and it'll suggest "eat heart of palm" Palm -> Palmar, my target. rofl are you kidding me
His only post since D2 started. He ninja-voted D1, isn't contributing and the few posts he has are very lackluster. From what I understand Kenpachi is a veteran, yet he's been the least helpful out of everyone (excluding Froggynoddy, who is inactive).
Also this gem: + Show Spoiler +On May 05 2012 06:31 Kenpachi wrote:ARE YOU GUYS KIDDING ME? DO YOU NOT NOTICE THE TREND HERE? NT i thought at first was not mafia but then layabout cames along and throws in POLICY LYNCH TIME NO NO NO WTF? NO i believe layabout and NT are mafia together because NT NT had aroused suspicions in thread andended in hotshit. He was completely saved by something so stupid. layabout, as his buttbuddy saves him with such a weak push that only the newbs are following. by experience, policy lynch almost always never works. its a scare tactic, not an actual method used to lynch people, especially day 1 i also believe marvellosity is mafia with them because he said NT is scummy and changes his mind like nothing happened Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 02:43 marvellosity wrote: At the moment Nova looks the scummiest for reasons already expanded upon by others. The fact that so little of anything has occurred today makes Nova's stance that he doesn't want to air his tentative reads all the worse.
Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 05:53 marvellosity wrote: Sold, I don't have a solid scumread on anyone and BM is just useless and anti-town no matter his alignment.
such a contradiction, they were made about 3 hours apart. BM is a potent player and everyone knows that. I feel day 1 lynching a veteran is the worst thing you can do. If i were mafia, id put BM near the top of my priority list just because of his sheer experience.
He made his scum reads and calls out who he believes to be the remaining scum team. But he doesn't push for their lynch or pressure them or anything at all. As of now I think Kenpachi is a better option than NT.
##Vote Kenpachi
I'm hoping I'll make it back before the deadline but I'm not too sure.
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On May 07 2012 13:31 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 11:13 PaqMan wrote: I don't like how big of a train that has started on NT, which is why I've taken my vote off. Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 13:19 PaqMan wrote: Just found out that I'm probably going to miss the lynch. I guess it doesn't bother anyone how fast a wagon formed on NT? I don't feel comfortable putting my vote back onto him.
That's not sufficient reason to unvote, typically. What if NT is legitimately playing like some horribly scummy game?
I just counted how many votes he has and it's only 4 >.> The reason why I didn't place my vote back on him is that I don't feel as confident in him being scum then I did when I first placed it on him. And I think there's a better option than him.
On May 07 2012 13:35 Kenpachi wrote: ##vote PaqMan ^And that goes to show he's actively lurking, not inactive. Purposely not discussing anything, purposely not making any contributions...
NT isn't off my radar and me unvoting him certainly isn't to show that I think he's town. I just think that there's a better lynch than him right now.
I'm going to bed.
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ebwop: oh wow ninja'd by half a page.
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On May 07 2012 13:37 Kenpachi wrote: lawl. excess mafia i guess.
been busy and decided to abuse that by making no posts to bait a scum. gg i asked for replacement
You've been busy, but you're obviously keeping up with the thread since you quickly responded to my halfassed case against you.
So basically your excuse is, "im not going to play because i dont want too, even tho i signed up. and anyone who votes me for not playing/contributing/doing anything is obv. scum."
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On May 07 2012 13:51 Nova_Terra wrote: Because you're kenpachi isnt an excuse. And if you dont die today, im just gonna start defending myself with Because im Nova_Terra.
That's the worst thing you could do. If you REALLY want to prove your town then stop letting a couple votes freak you out. it makes it look like you have something to hide. Make good fos, analysis', and cases against people and pressure the people who you think are scum. Quit spending so much time defending yourself. Make a good defense that addresses all the points against you and move on.
goodnight ppl.
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On May 07 2012 13:53 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 13:49 PaqMan wrote:On May 07 2012 13:37 Kenpachi wrote: lawl. excess mafia i guess.
been busy and decided to abuse that by making no posts to bait a scum. gg i asked for replacement You've been busy, but you're obviously keeping up with the thread since you quickly responded to my halfassed case against you. So basically your excuse is, "im not going to play because i dont want too, even tho i signed up. and anyone who votes me for not playing/contributing/doing anything is obv. scum." if ive been following the thread, i would have responded to NT's vote on me. i didnt notice that until after i voted you
And you "coincidentally" check the thread right after I make my case. Yeah, I don't buy it. You're actively lurking and unless one of the hosts confirm that you're looking for a replacement I don't buy that either.
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On May 07 2012 14:00 Kenpachi wrote: if you dont believe it, doesnt matter. you're scum as far as i can tell
What were you so busy with
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