I like supersofts idea lol
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Sinensis is just a null to me, neither looking good nor looking bad and I'd say give him another day to show wether or not he's town. S&B is not looking like the best lynch but he's a decent Plan-B. | ||
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On May 29 2012 03:12 Hassybaby wrote: Sorry guys, my friends and I have been enjoying the weather which has actually been good in England for a change (blah blah rain blah blah) and GSTL is distracting too. I'd love to give my opinions about the cases, if someone can possibly point towards who the main guys are? I can see Wiggles and ET are options for leader, is there anyone else? And are there any other guys besides Toad for vice? I'm no longer an option because people (VE) fear a modconfirmed townie who's going to be shot because he's the modconfirmed guy is to easy to be manipulated therefore I am no option or because I am a lyncher (according to wiggles) or I'm mafia (according to foru). Other people fear I am going to be roleblocked n1 which would result in a huge shitstorm because I am roleblockimmune. Don't even try to ask me to understand that. Anyways the best option we have right now is probably Foru and we should get him into either position. That's it for me. See you guys in an hour or something like that. | ||
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On May 29 2012 03:29 papapanda wrote: Mmk Hassy: The VP and P elections are NOT separate. Meaning the second most vote automatically becomes VP. Toad: Like I said, I think you picking your partner(if that is how it works) is the best move from here. But if you really ARE the mason, why would mafia kill the person who confirms you because only on his flip can the town know you are mod-confirmed? I think I have a guess as to what you are doing but we can only wait and see. Is the voting due in 5 hours? If mafia shoots the same guy I am targeting he is dead before he can confirm me because right now I assume I only get to talk to the guy once the night is over. That's the critical thing but I'll ask about it. If I can start to him I'd be open to change the plans because mafia can't do a thing against my confirmation. | ||
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On May 29 2012 03:51 strongandbig wrote: Time for a little bit of analysis before I have to get back to work. My Finger of Suspicion points currently at supersoft. Show nested quote + On May 28 2012 06:00 supersoft wrote: On May 28 2012 05:55 Toadesstern wrote: On May 28 2012 05:49 kitaman27 wrote: Lets end the discussion right now. Toad is our pardoner. It's the best of both worlds. It ensures we don't have a scum pardoner, which is the more dangerous of the two roles and it protects us from a mayor lyncher. If you're town toad, then great we denied the role. If not, then we don't really care if you would prefer mayor. denying that role is utterly useless. A mafia can't use it before LYLO or he's dead. Both mayor and vice-thingy are highly likely to die early on, at least mayor for sure. Even if mafia gets that role they can't use it because they're trading it for a 1v1 which I am happy to take. Why is everyone so scared about the pardoner. That role is completly useless no matter of alignment. And this is actually something i agree with. The electionroles in this game are basically pretty meaningless. This pardonerguy and this mayor. Pfff i mean, they will die before LYLO anyway so there is really nothing to worry about. This is not a good town attitude. As has been discussed, these roles are super important for town - each of them can pretty much fuck up an entire cycle by denying town info, plus there's the mayor's double vote. Show nested quote + On May 29 2012 03:03 supersoft wrote: My strongest townread is forumite and therefor i vote him for office. I think everyone should do the same. Result will be, that most likely townplayers are in this office and not some players you guys expect to win the game for you. Btw this office with no bodyguards is no office we want to vote the players in, who are in danger of getting shot tonight. I <3 forumite and I agree that he's probably town, but this is a terrible plan. If everyone just votes for their "strongest town read" instead of for one of the actual candidates, then the votes are likely to get very spread out giving mafia a good chance to swing the election by coordinating, either to get one of them elected or just to avoid getting someone they're scared of or who's on the right track elected. Show nested quote + On May 27 2012 18:38 supersoft wrote: On May 27 2012 18:28 Zealos wrote: Hi guys, I'm a vanilla townie, and I'm gonna try not to get too emotionally attached when I play this game, to avoid cluttering. Let's all try and chill, and play nice together, because arguing is not finding scum. Also, in a game this big, can we try to keep posting concise and simple, so the pages don't get into their thousands. I'm currently happy with an ET mayor. From what I know of him, he may not be the best townie in TL, but he's consistent and seems to do a good job of staying cool and hunting scum. I'm on the "Pardoner is bad" boat too, but I'm not sure the best way to deal with it at the moment, but I'm open to ideas. Not starting looking for scum yet, but as a start. @Blazinghand: Do you think you've been helpful so far this game? @ET: Who would you vote for Mayor if not yourself? @Mattchew: Do you think the arguments going on are indicative of people being scum, or is it a case of frustrated egos? why do you claim right now? Lol. Kenpachi'd by the kenpachi copycat. And in case anyone doesn't think this works, I got caught by BC with it in SS mafia. It does work, probably because claiming VT is suspicious and weird behavior that scum think they can gain towncred for by calling out. Show nested quote + On May 28 2012 05:58 supersoft wrote: On May 28 2012 05:52 VisceraEyes wrote: I don't share Toadesstern's reservations about ET. I think he's been fairly open and honest, and I don't see how those things can be construed as 'manipulative'. While it's true that some of his points about "The State of TL Towns" is superficially easy to say as scum, you have to bear in mind the motivation for making such a post. First of all, he now has to be held accountable for any style of posting that goes against this philosophy...if he starts wigging out and being hyper-aggressive then we can point to his campaign post and say "?!". Add to that the fact that by and large I agree with most of what he's pushing and I'm willing to give him a shot. I think that if he really is scum, it's going to be hard to hide that fact if he's given 2 votes and a free lynch today - which he's promised to use by 'scumhunting'...another factor we can hold him to come the end of the day. I don't think these things are "easy for mafia" to say at all, and I think Toadesstern is the one being manipulative here. ##FoS: Toadesstern If you really are about to be "confirmed" * then you're going to need to step up your game sir. Put more thought into your accusations than a tertiary glance if you hope to be of any use before you're "probably targeted by n2 or n3". good example for a completely nontelling post. You FoS Toadesstern?! because you disagree with him regarding this ET guy? What is your plan?! What do you want? Toad claimed Mason; he reacted kind of okay when i pressured him (regarding that he's mason his reaction actually is okay). Please, make a plan and dont pressure around randomly. We got everything from toad he has to offer right now. Badluck he seems to be mason and we forced him to claim that. This also is a bit of an odd post. Why does the fact that Toad claimed mason change SS's impression of his townplay? SS had some really strong reads on Toad, saying things like "I know your townplay." More importantly, SS's points on Toad were 100% right - saying "elect me because I'm unreadable" and "I will magically kill scum on day 1" like toad did are super suspicious! I tend to agree with many people that this leans towards Toad being third party. So why did SS back off here? Also, how did we "force" Toad to claim anything? There was literally no reason for Toad to claim some kind of nonstandard target-changing un-roleblockable "manipulation-proof" (wtf?) mason role, as part of his campaign for Mayor. This reads to me either like SS and Toad are scum buddies trying to distance themselves and got too far, or (more likely) like a scum SS saw an opportunity to gain town cred by making an actual good case on a player who was not being towny but wasn't on his scum team, then backing off when he realized that the presence of third parties like a lyncher hurts town and probably helps scum. Do I have to explain why everything he posted is wrong in here? Most things are actually the the other way around, which is one of the reasons I am so suspicious about ET right now. | ||
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On May 29 2012 04:48 EchelonTee wrote: Hmm... I doubt toad is scum, or 3rd party TBH. While I might not agree with his claim, and obviously I disagree with the whole "i want ET dead" thing, I don't think he's scum. Toad, do you target your mason partner at night or at the start of the day? I choose my targets at night and as already pointed out someone in here knows exactly what I'm talking about because he has the same role lol | ||
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On May 29 2012 05:08 VisceraEyes wrote: Dude I totally didn't even realize that BH was gunning for grush too! /facepalm Okay, yeah...that makes sense then. Like, if he had been the first to push a grush policy lynch then that would be one thing: proposing a weak policy lynch that's guaranteed to be shot down is easy as fuck for scum...but wholly unnecessary if someone has already run on the platform of killing grush. I tend to think that both Sin..whatever and BH are looking pretty townish for that action but then again this troll campaign doesn't really look good for them. I mean I intended to get the mayoral position but I failed. I doubt those two ever honestly tried to and only tried to get their policy lynch point across. The thing here is they could have done that by saying something along the lines of "I'm going to vote anyone who's willing to lynch grush" as well without that bullshit of a campaign. The troublesome part is that people might think "hey they run for mayor. I doubt mafia would do that because there are no bodyguards and everyone expects the mayor to be dead either n1 or n2 the latest, so no way are they mafia", which would be something I'd consider if they honestly run for mayor. But they didn't, so why did they choose to do that? | ||
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On May 29 2012 05:22 EchelonTee wrote: Something to note; almost all people have said "I would be down with killing Sinensis!". Some have said the same about SnB, but many have said "I am sort of suspicious, but want more info first". Both bandwagons, but different in tone. stop blabbering about this stuff and start telling us what YOU think about these issues. Yeah asking other people is fine and dandy but if you get to be the mayor YOU are responsible for the lynch and I don't want you to hide behind some "I only did what town wanted to me do" so get started and tell us who YOU thin is the best lynch because I want to keep you accountable for your actions, not the town in general. | ||
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If you're lynching S&B I am kinda okay to ignore you for the time being and vote you. However a Kita lynch would give you my eternal love :3 | ||
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On May 29 2012 07:52 supersoft wrote: by the way, I really don't understand, why you people never listen to me. How can't you see that zealos is scum?! good god, that's so bitter. I get that feeling bro | ||
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I am somehow scared wiggles might end up lynching me. | ||
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That being sad I want protection this night as I am HIGHLY likely to be shot. I don't care if it's a medic or a jailer because again, I'm roleblock-immune. There's harly a better place to put your protection this night. If you want to make use of me protect me. I will be confirmed within 24 hours. | ||
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On May 29 2012 09:07 Toadesstern wrote: Sup. I think I'm going to use a random number generator to get the first "target". No matter if 3rd party, mafia or town the guy has to claim the mason thing if he wants to survive the day after seeing me flip and surely catching scum in a QT isn't bad either. That being sad I want protection this night as I am HIGHLY likely to be shot. I don't care if it's a medic or a jailer because again, I'm roleblock-immune. There's hardly a better place to put your protection this night. If you want to make use of me protect me. I will be confirmed within 24 hours. EBWOP...2 am, sry. bolded stuff is "edited" except for that phrase that was already bolded before | ||
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On May 29 2012 09:09 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Show nested quote + On May 29 2012 09:07 Toadesstern wrote: Sup. I think I'm going to use a random number generator to get the first "target". No matter if 3rd party, mafia or town the guy has to claim the mason thing he he wants to survive the day after seeing me flip and surely catching scum in a QT isn't bad either. That being sad I want protection this night as I am HIGHLY likely to be shot. I don't care if it's a medic or a jailer because again, I'm roleblock-immune. There's harly a better place to put your protection this night. If you want to make use of me protect me. I will be confirmed within 24 hours. dumb. Mason someone you think is town. yeah thought of that as well. But than again I don't want the guy to be shot and I gave a couple of townreads away already. I might use the random generator and redo it until I end up with someone who has a green color in my sheet of awesome. I have plenty of those. | ||
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On May 29 2012 09:17 Forumite wrote: Show nested quote + Yeah, I know, it´s just that when there were replacements in Holy Roman, it was mostly to make sure no scum had to be modkilled. On May 29 2012 08:59 Blazinghand wrote: On May 29 2012 08:55 Forumite wrote: On May 29 2012 08:50 slOosh wrote: I don´t know if I like the sound of that. We are currently looking for replacements for the people who have not voted. Given that only 23 of 30 players voted, we really need replacements and not modkills. 7 modkills has the potential of ruining the game, whether it's all town, lots of scum, or a mix, or blues/no blues / whatever-- this many people getting killed distorts things, so I hope they can find replacements ;_; Show nested quote + Seriously Kita, shape up. On May 29 2012 09:02 kitaman27 wrote: I'd like to announce my candidacy for mayor guys. Show nested quote + Aren´t you overestimating your importance for town? I want you to survive the night and think you are a good target, but it´s up to the medics/jailors. On May 29 2012 09:07 Toadesstern wrote: Sup. I think I'm going to use a random number generator to get the first "target". No matter if 3rd party, mafia or town the guy has to claim the mason thing he he wants to survive the day after seeing me flip and surely catching scum in a QT isn't bad either. That being sad I want protection this night as I am HIGHLY likely to be shot. I don't care if it's a medic or a jailer because again, I'm roleblock-immune. There's harly a better place to put your protection this night. If you want to make use of me protect me. I will be confirmed within 24 hours. I suggest any jailors heavily consider protecting Toades, while medics find other targets, that should draw enough, but not too much, protection on Toades. it was more of a general thought as in: I want protection, I don't care about who ends up giving me that protection. We can make a nice plan about this if you want to. Remember the plan WBG did in L to guide vigis? We could say something along the lines of: "If you are within spot #1 to 15# protect Toad, if you are not protect whoever you want to". I doubt we have medics like candy in this game and there's always those people who just don't follow plans just for the sake of not doing what they were told to do. I recently learned that lol | ||
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The guy went for a Plan-C lynch.That's the point here, he took the cowards way out. If he was bold he should have lynched Kita if not he should have gone for a nice Plan-B lynch that that was remotely worth information while giviing us an at least existing chance to hit mafia. What wiggles did is lynch into a guy that gave us an existing chance to hit mafia (alhough as pointet out the guy was a true null) while giving us 0 information. I'd rather have seen VE lynched than this guy. We can't make anything out of his lynch because it's 0 information and it basicly had the same chance of hitting mafia a policy lynch has. Not saying he is mafia yet, just saying this lynch was stupid and he looks weird because of it and mafia is not going to shoot someone who is looking weird. Even if they do, I don't care lol | ||
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On May 29 2012 20:14 Forumite wrote: Show nested quote + Toades, I´m not sure if this is a dumb post or a very, very smart one. On May 29 2012 19:43 Toadesstern wrote: I can offer you a person disagreeing with Wiggles needing protection if that's okay as well. -snip- Not saying he is mafia yet, just saying this lynch was stupid and he looks weird because of it and mafia is not going to shoot someone who is looking weird. Even if they do, I don't care lol Medics, protect Wiggles if you feel like it. I don´t really blame Wiggles for lynching sinensis, Kita would have been a good candidate, but otherwise there wasn´t much alternative. A Zealos lynch might have been better but it never got much support, I guess it was too late in the day. There was very little discussion about other lynches, most people seemed fine with sinensis. a smart one of course. I onl maket smart posts when I'm town. | ||
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With all those people who haven't posted at all I feel the danger of masoning a guy who ends up being shot is really high with something like 4 KP and if that were to happen the shitstorm would be massive. So if I am lucky I masoned a mafia, figure him out in PM land tomorrow and he still confirms me as town :p Also hi to wbg | ||
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