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On July 17 2012 07:57 Obvious.660 wrote: Remember this? Nothing has changed. He's definitely a third mafia candidate (shitty posting history plus change in character to what looks like copy-pasted text from someone else) and it wraps up my theory quite nicely. The jig is up on the sacrificial lamb-ing and their strategy has been adjusted. His last couple of posts were completely out of character. Capitalization? Complete sentences? Total 180 and I don't think that a new-found passion for the game is going to change whether or not you type like shit. If I'm right on this vote, it will mean my read was good (unless I change my stance on the other two I've listed, which is not out of the question by any means) and I can have more faith in my other suspicions. If not, well, it takes a town to vote. ~6 Hours since the last post from YourHarry Still only one post from iamperfection. Frankly, your sudden shift from welcoming him to the thread to voting for him sounds more like a coached response from a QT than him starting to make an effort after the entire active population of the thread told him to. | ||
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So, strategery! I'm going to apply my strategery to our discussion, and so far, our discussion has been good. By the way, you kind of have something SERIOUS to explain here. On July 17 2012 08:40 Obvious.660 wrote: give you the chance to participate before I throw you under the bus. Throwing someone under the bus is what SCUM do... | ||
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He was the Scum team's MVP, and he was a townie. He last second secured two mislynches, and then promptly died at MYLO to give us the game. | ||
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On July 17 2012 20:06 Obvious.660 wrote: There aren't enough fingers to go around at this point. I will share a few thoughts before I sleep, as I may not make it back in time for any further analysis. Seriously, the town play needs to improve overall or we're going to mislynch tonight. It's awful that I am reading more scum than town. > tube still has my vote. Don't just look at the filter, it's better to read the actual thread when looking at him. Very few quotes to address the accusations against him in his responses will make analysis of tube troublesome without going through unfiltered. > YourHarry: Highly, highly suspicious of this one. Not because he voted for me, but because of HOW IT WAS DONE. > JingleHell is suspicious to me for his constant attacks on what words are chosen: "Wait and see" -- "Under the bus" conversations, where intent was pretty clear and he chose to always take it in the most negative context possible. He's railed on Calgar and me fairly hard. > Hopeless1der makes a safe vote against the lurking Fulla. Wanted to know about no-lynch for whatever reason. Leaning scum here. > Fulla seems to be lurking hard. Brings up a point of inquiry for some irrelevant statistic and probably goes to sleep. > iamperfection read my post but clearly didn't follow the conversation in entirety. Points a few fingers, nothing overly suspicious. I would call the posting history semi-engaging but barely active. Leaning scum here. > Calgar: My gut tells me town. > Mufaa: Two posts. One starts analysis with the promise of more. The extra analysis is nowhere to be found. However, his line of reasoning regarding JingleHell seems to be spot on so far today. > drwiggl3s: No scummy feelings here, yet. > Evulrabbitz: Lurky, but lives in Sweden. 7 hours ahead of EST, if my just-before-sleep math is any good. I'm probably off by an hour. Look for something from Evul in the very near future, well before vote time. > Hapahauli: Should be weighing in today. I have no strong feelings either way about his contributed play. If you get nothing else out of this, town members need to take a good look at their individual contributions and ask themselves if they've done everything they can today to work towards a good day one lynch. Your "contribution" is a giant summary post listing each person and a thought about them? Even tube's posting wasn't this bad, because it would have taken him about a week's worth of posting to provide this much clutter. My vote is in the right place, and going nowhere. | ||
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On July 17 2012 23:43 Hapahauli wrote: I believe YourHarry to be a better lynch case than Tube or Obvious.660 at this stage of the game. While Tube has made some suspicious posts, he's waaaaay too upfront/naieve about his suspicious behavior, and comes across as a really really bad townie player. Suspicion alone is not enough to lynch someone - its more important to look for Mafia Motive. Obvious.660 reads as pretty townie to me. He has many lengthy posts, provides clear reasoning for his actions, is playing recklessly. I don't understand the bandwagon at all, and this looks all too similar to the "LYNCH LAZERMONKEY" bandwagon on Day 1 in Newbie Mini Mafia XX. I don't want to spend pages and pages screaming in his defense this game, but I will do if we do this bandwagon shit again. And Hapahauli kicks off his usual behavior of trying to railroad the town, based on his oh so exemplary record of finding one whole scum in Newbie XX, and conveniently ignoring all the bad cases he personally had going there while knocking any cases he disliked from it. /yawn I'll just stick with ignoring you, thanks. | ||
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On July 18 2012 00:10 Hapahauli wrote: Jingle. I don't want us getting into a dickfight again in this game. It'll only create chaos in the town. I will make every effort to remain civil with you, and all I ask you provide reasoning for your opinions as opposed to dismissing my case based on my "ego" or whatever. Are you blind, or just ignoring everything you disagree with again? I already provided my reasoning for voting on Obvious, and you dismissed it completely, based purely on WIFOM and assumptions. You're a brick wall in an argument, so I'm not going to bother. Would you like me to link some posts (which you ignored completely) explaining why you're at the very least not worth the bother of arguing against, and in some ways, have the potential to be bad for town? Would you like me remind you of the BassInSpace case you were busily trying to tear to shreds? You know, the guy we lynched in part because of my ego, who was the LAST SCUM? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349066¤tpage=51#1001 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349066¤tpage=51#1007 | ||
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His sudden backtracking the instant he came under suspicion also makes me wonder. That's scum getting something to backfire. As for "misinterpreting his definition of 'bus'", you must be high. Contextually, there's only one serious definition for bussing someone. It's not the sort of thing any townie should refer to themselves doing. He should certainly know that, if he wanted to be in on jumping on tube for posting in an anti-town manner. | ||
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On July 18 2012 01:35 Hapahauli wrote: For christ sake Jingle - the backhanded comments are getting rediculous. Exactly how do you think this helps the town? Cut it out. I'll cut it out the second you stop thinking that cardboard crown you got from Burger King proves you're king shit. Did you actually read the posts I referred you to, and try being open minded about them, or were you too busy trying to decide how best to subjugate others to your ego? | ||
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On July 18 2012 01:43 Hapahauli wrote: Since when does pushing for my case constitute "ego?" Its a scumhunt, and I'm going to try to argue to get the scummiest player lynch. You're doing the exact same thing with Obvious.660. Actually, I'm only arguing because you are. You're trying to persuade people, and in so doing, you've attacked me repeatedly, of course I'm going to return the favor. My arguments against Obvious seem to have stood on their own, as I don't need to con people into agreeing with them. They either agree or they don't, based on the clear, visible things I've commented on. The big difference is that I don't have this compulsion to get everyone to agree with me. If they do, they do, if they don't, they don't. If I'm wrong, (go check my meta) I have a tendency to own up to it, instead of just plowing forward recklessly. You're so busy trying to assert your authority over the entire thread that you ignore anything contrary to your own opinions. | ||
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2: I've already gone into detail on my belief of "Hapa being Hapa", you're failing to address any of that, and just calling that quote shady. 3: I made my (minor) suspicion about you clear quite a while ago. The fact that Hapa was ignoring it doesn't make me reminding him of it sudden, or backtracking. | ||
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This almost looks like an effort to keep votes on you to a minimum by making it look like an OMGUS if I shift my vote, which makes me want to do it, somewhat. | ||
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On July 18 2012 02:44 Hapahauli wrote: @ YourHarry: Jingle is playing exactly like he was last game as a townie. Look at my case from last game; he's perfectly capable of blatantly bad advice, lack of reasoning, and anti-town mentality. Yet he flipped town. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349066¤tpage=21#404 So far, he's as reckless as he was in his town game, and I see no reason to suspect him. Recklessness is ignoring a DT investigation to stroke your own ego, which one of us did that? Oh right. You. Bad advice, lack of reasoning, and anti-town mentality. Like trying to pressure people into not voting on the guy DT investigated as scum? The guy we lynched for the win? Look who's talking. Get your attitude in check. There's only one of us who's trying to force the town to follow them, and it's you. Your flagrant arrogance almost destroyed town in XX, if we hadn't had a scum get modkilled, and had all listened to you, we probably would have lost, and here you are touting it as a reason people should worship the ground you walk on, while you make idiotic, hypocritical attacks against me. This is why I'll continue to tell you to kiss my ass. | ||
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On July 18 2012 03:31 tube wrote: Why would someone blame you for a possible mislynch should Obvious get lynched. If it's not obvious, nobody was taking you seriously when you were randomly voting Obvious except Obvious himself. I only voted him once I actually started getting a read, as did Jingle and perfection. Three people found it scummy because it's scummy, how's that fascinating? I don't need anyone to distract the town away from me because nobody had any good reason to lynch me to begin with. If you think otherwise explain, not with some roundabout theory that bases itself on false assumptions. We did actually have good reason to suspect you, but once it was explained, you started making an effort to fix it, which earned you some BOTD, and Obvious's sudden reversal definitely made him appear more scummy than you. | ||
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On July 18 2012 03:36 drwiggl3s wrote: Deadline is soon approaching and we still aren't at a consensus. Currently I think both tube and Obvious can be seen as scum. But the meta switch by tube (where he all of a sudden changed his tone, style, writing) seemed way too coached to have been his own doing. A vote against Obviousis a decent one, but I gotta go with my gut here and think tube is the more "obvious" scum player.. Unless I can pull more reasoning out of why Obvious is mafia, I'll leave my vote where it is now. ##tube You forgot the word "Vote" in your vote. Also, if you go back and look, the entire active portion of the thread was "coaching" tube's sudden shift in style. | ||
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