I won't surrender this time either.
PTP3 - Pikachu's Revenge
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I won't surrender this time either. | ||
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Those are all real clauses in competitive pokemon by the way | ||
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On August 11 2012 06:57 Zephirdd wrote: Only first generation will be used here, so I assume that pokémon abilities(such as Levitate) and different forms, as well as items, won't be available. Is Mew a possibility? You said first 150 Which begs the question Can we use X items to horribly brake the game because that is all that happened in generation 1? Can we also use Pokedolls to make every ghost pokemon useless? | ||
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On August 11 2012 08:36 Forumite wrote: Sure, let´s trade. You get my Ratata, and I get your FEAR Ratata is probably one of the most broken strategies all be it really predictable | ||
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Who would want a Gengar when you have that | ||
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Wouldn't Gary Oak be more fitting as a cult leader? | ||
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On August 13 2012 05:26 deconduo wrote: Nope, no need. Its just a small incentive really to help balance role distribution, its not a mandatory thing at all. Sure a Squirtle that knows Flamethrower would be fun anyway Scald is better... | ||
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On August 13 2012 06:18 Zephirdd wrote: Pikachu with Surf should gain extra KP imo. This is first generation so Raichu is much stronger | ||
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On August 13 2012 06:38 Hopeless1der wrote: Technically 1st gen could have included mew, and look how that turned out. Also, /in Technically first gen has 240 pokemon but only 151 official | ||
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http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/ | ||
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On August 13 2012 22:25 Zephirdd wrote: DING DING DING we got a winnar! I wondered how long would it take to people realize that XD Generation 1 pokemon != generation 1 since fire red and leaf green exist | ||
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On August 14 2012 00:09 Kurumi wrote: Fire Red and Leaf Green had 2 Gen Pokemon around in the Sevii Islands. Generation 5 move pools open up more fun for role possibilities so I'll be sticking with those attacks and let the hosts work out what possible attack they could be for first generation | ||
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On August 14 2012 07:33 Kurumi wrote: And PTP is the craziest setup out there, always loads of fun T_T So then do you want the Oracle role or for Dec to publicly announce you as scum? | ||
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On August 15 2012 22:21 Zephirdd wrote: Remember that pokémon is a japanese game, so it's most likely to be called "Erection" Where do you think the day care man gets eggs from? | ||
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(I swear I won't this game) | ||
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On August 17 2012 13:25 GreYMisT wrote: No, chansey could be a mindnumbingly coldblooded killer. That pretty much sums up Chansey in generation 1 where she has unlimited special stat | ||
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On August 20 2012 06:11 strongandbig wrote: I put flavor in my pm! ppl who didn't are probably lame. I put flavour in mine | ||
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##Solar Beam: VisceraEyes | ||
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On August 20 2012 07:46 Toadesstern wrote: as if. I'll consider that a troll and if you really do damage I'll blast right back. Also: sup guyses I GOT A KP ROLE OUT OF MY TROLL Basically all I wanted | ||
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On August 20 2012 07:49 Kenpachi wrote: hi guys im Kenpachi and im Town ##Invoke the Kenpachi rule | ||
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On August 20 2012 07:51 Toadesstern wrote: I said you're trolling. Go figure what that might mean for my post. Still you wouldn't do the threat if you couldn't back up with something other than a half assed vote that means nothing | ||
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On August 20 2012 07:55 strongandbig wrote: soooooo... why were you trying to out kp roles? Track the damage track the scum | ||
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On August 20 2012 07:57 HiroPro wrote: lol, it's ptp. half the people in this game probably have kp Hence why tracking as much as possible is important | ||
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On August 20 2012 08:08 strongandbig wrote: Yeah so I'm pretty sure this doesn't make sense from a town point of view. The majority of kp roles (independent from scum factional KP) are likely to be town. And you're trying to justify tracking "kp roles". http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=227186¤tpage=90#1792 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=227186¤tpage=170#3382 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=227186¤tpage=180#3589 From PTP1 alone | ||
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On August 20 2012 08:13 strongandbig wrote: Oh, I'm not saying there aren't scum kp roles. I'm just saying there are probably more town kp roles than scum kp roles. Scum will have at least 1-3KP How much do they actually get? Then if balanced right they will get at least another 2-3KP from people's roles If kenpachi is right there is 7KP roles If I am also right there is only 4 town KP roles so Its more profitable for us to track the KP | ||
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Together we will ask the same questions and do the same stuff then I will murder you with 6 wobbofetts on Shoddy | ||
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On August 20 2012 08:19 strongandbig wrote: the assumption that there is an even number of roles of all types is a bad assumption. Also you're not trying to track kp you're trying to track kp roles. Your trick wouldn't catch scum factional kp. night! Tracking KP roles IS tracking KP they are the same thing | ||
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On August 20 2012 08:20 deconduo wrote: Scum KP is hidden. Then scum only have the KP roles people made Pretty much all I'm gathering from this | ||
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On August 20 2012 08:22 Kurumi wrote: No that means Kp was balanced accordingly to the roles they got. That is so easy. I honestly prefer my line of reasoning to that. Static KP means players become more important to others and gives trackers / watchers to have more power | ||
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non static* | ||
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Kenpachi rule? | ||
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On August 20 2012 08:35 Kurumi wrote: It is fun , come on dont try to shut down discussion without giving any new ideas. Your hesitation to deal with Drazerk is weird too. At least I'm causing discussion which is normally horrible on day 1 T_T | ||
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On August 20 2012 08:35 Mementoss wrote: Im assuming wherebugsgo can only be a bug-type, so lets list off gen 1 bug types: 010 Caterpie Bug 011 Metapod Bug 012 Butterfree Bug Flying 013 Weedle Bug Poison 014 Kakuna Bug Poison 015 Beedrill Bug Poison 046 Paras Bug Grass 047 Parasect Bug Grass 048 Venonat Bug Poison 049 Venomoth Bug Poison 123 Scyther Bug Flying Now the real question is where bug types go, pokealliance or team rocket. If my memory serves me right, team rocket never used any of these bug type pokemon in the show. Therefore, wherebugsgo is telling the truth. Flawless logic. http://serebii.net/manga/characters/giovanni.shtml http://serebii.net/manga/characters/blue.shtml I win | ||
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On August 20 2012 08:47 Kurumi wrote: Nah dont care about this , these are useless posts for the sake of posting (I know ...) Isn't that what we was doing other than beginning to create a genuine dislike for Toad? | ||
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Volunteering for yourself with that No!? | ||
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On August 20 2012 09:00 Mr. Wiggles wrote: How have you done that? Also, in keeping with the spirit of the thread, spam spam spam he said he was town and you're not allowed to lie in this game also - | ||
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On August 20 2012 09:02 grush57 wrote: See look at wiggles, he asks me a legit question. Plus, he continues my tradition To answer the question, breadcrumb, and meta. Plus I'm town. Now, we must find scum. I must stop posting so scum can start posting and then we catch them. Cool trick. Drazerk's law 3: If they say the word meta they are scum | ||
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Analysing how people join the thread is probably the most interesting part of the game | ||
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On August 20 2012 09:07 grush57 wrote: Anyways, no scum would be retarded enough to be this active early. If anything they would be in a position asking the questions while not doing anything themselves like drazerk(or anyone else really) However, the only way to prove your innocence is to catch scum. U C? The key to winning on either side is thread presence This will never ever ever change. | ||
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On August 20 2012 09:13 grush57 wrote: Well also that isn't true always. Alot of games scum just lurks and town just kills itself. Fine in games where towns are actually competent the key to winning is thread presence | ||
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On August 20 2012 09:31 Zephirdd wrote: What if I told you you can create rolecop immune roles. What if I told you you could create rolecop immune penetration roles | ||
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So the following - No pokemon names No Type No role information No claiming medic to save scum Anyone who does this will probably just be shot down or turned green | ||
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On August 20 2012 10:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Why do you keep stating obvious things -_- I have my reasons | ||
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On August 20 2012 10:27 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I hope they don't revolve around you using the argument later of "look at how helpful I was being, I clearly cannot be scum" because well, general advice to a group of players who at this point should all know the basics of playing clearly wouldn't need said advice. I never defend myself You should know this by now | ||
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On August 20 2012 10:34 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Then you should really stop playing so scummy. Playing as you are now reaks almost as distinctly red as mr kurumi over there. He smells bad. Theres no real way for me to stop looking like scum with my play style and its why you will need to kill me (I said kill not lynch) before Lylo other whys ill make an awful call at a critical situation and lose town the game or you will all suspect me and lose town the game. | ||
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On August 20 2012 10:52 wherebugsgo wrote: is this supposed to be a cop out for you? Like, a disclaimer that you're just going to be awful for the rest of the game? Why don't you just...I dunno, play better? No I still try to play well I just know I shouldn't be alive if town want to win | ||
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On August 20 2012 12:32 BioSC wrote: Well, it will stop me from accusing him of being scum I guess. Wait you haven't actually posted anything yet... | ||
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On August 20 2012 12:44 BioSC wrote: It was more a reference to my last game with him. What would you like to talk about, darling? Top 3 scum targets thoughts on the 4/25 lol I'm entering the thread posts What is the meaning to life? | ||
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On August 20 2012 12:44 JingleHell wrote: Whee, this is seeming insane. On the plus side, Grush has the best icon I've ever seen him with now. And if he avoids a modkill, we should lynch him. Because let's face it. He's been active and not sounded like he was washing down speed with gasoline, which doesn't fit his town meta at all. We're not lynching anyone for meta reasons | ||
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On August 20 2012 12:54 JingleHell wrote: Ignoring the part where you're not synonymous with we, I can think of other reasons to lynch Grush, like the fact that it reduces the number of posts that sound like they were made by Grush. Which is a benefit in and of itself. Do you have a candidate to suggest? Or are you stifling discussion for a reason that isn't scummy? I hate the word meta and everything assosiated with it you don't really have a real case on him and I am challenging you to present one based on what has already been posted not what he may do because he is grush He's probably going to be replaced / killed anyhow so there isn't a point discussing him until we know whats happening | ||
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On August 20 2012 18:59 strongandbig wrote: Let me restate the argument in a different way: it's not only that Drazerk wouldn't be serious if he's town, although that's part of it; it's also that Drazerk's arguments seem thrown together after the fact to justify his actions, and I don't think town Drazerk would do that - he would either think things through first or he would just ignore questions about his actions. But if this doesn't ring true to anyone else, I'll set it aside until there's more evidence to go on. Last time I played a crazy game with Drazerk, he was town but I thought he was scum and got sucked into tunneling him for most of the game, so I'm going to try to avoid that this time. Hey hey hey hey hey I justify my actions even in Bastard you was just tunnelling me so god hard to see it also I've never thought things through in any game of mafia ever so yeah. As I said I need to be KILLED not lynched I chose solar beam because I knew anyone with pokemon knowledge would see it as a joke I'm not that cruel to want to kill VE over and over You're big case was rather long and I don't care I'm only posting to move the discussion along | ||
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I'm a bug type so fire / flying / rock types - Bring it | ||
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Thats you right now. | ||
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On August 20 2012 21:52 Toadesstern wrote: I was SO going to post it :p Something tells me you was trying to talk to the person who actually had metronome though... | ||
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On August 20 2012 22:06 Zephirdd wrote: You were And Toad, what did that do? Did it do anything at all? >_> Oh Oh Oh is it like I suggested pregame? you use a random ability from any player in the game??? *___* My dialect my rules T_T | ||
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On August 21 2012 05:19 Chezinu wrote: Yay town is alive! or is it mafia? Let's talk about the normal stuff that I love ignoring and not talking about. Such as: Should we all role claim our pokemon names? Or mass claim abilities? Or discuss who has post restrictions.. or who has the abilities to be a pokedex or whatever the pokemon identifying device is called... or who has a third party objective just to survive and has to kill a certain pokemon... or maybe has to a pokemon that way imba like mewtwo that can pm people and read people's darkest secrets...Guys where are yous? Where is the typical dicussions that I can try to troll-jack to find them rocket peoples? Where Ares you? Hmmm......... So yeah ##Vote: Chezinu At least until you read the thread. | ||
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On August 21 2012 05:27 Chezinu wrote: ##Vote: Drazerk Look what I caught! works like every game. lol You've yet to post anything... | ||
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On August 21 2012 05:28 Kurumi wrote: Draz , your first post was a stunt ? Why ? Because I could | ||
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On August 21 2012 05:30 Chezinu wrote: I posts lots of stuff. Oh I gets it, sooo funny! "anything..." there I did it, happy? At least I'm trying to take part in the game while you are posting nothing of value T_T | ||
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On August 21 2012 05:33 strongandbig wrote: Oh hey drazerk. Since when is "chezinu not reading the thread" a scum tell for him? Poke vote is a poke vote Read carefully | ||
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On August 21 2012 05:39 Kurumi wrote: Yeah I figured it was a scum motive, but not such a mindless one. Why would Toad hesitate to get rid of you? I cause havoc and chaos which allows for scum to slip in unnoticed or he thinks I am a vengful townie or mad hatter who intentionally wants to die to kill people | ||
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On August 21 2012 05:45 Kurumi wrote: Deconduo said that village idiots are bad idea. Oh well , off to Toad then. Vengful townie != VI They are two very different roles | ||
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On August 21 2012 06:10 Toadesstern wrote: hey s&b: Do you think Kurumi is trying to fish reaction or is he trying to taunt me into hypnotoad-mode so that I shit up the thread with his most recent bullshit? I vote for both | ||
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You're not a good lynch candidate you're more a hyper beam + bubble beam + charge beam + ice beam + aura beam them in the face type of person like me. | ||
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On August 21 2012 06:18 Chezinu wrote: It's a trap! Kurumi could be one of those pocket monsters that shoots back what ever you throw at him! http://serebii.net/abilitydex/aftermath.shtml | ||
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On August 21 2012 07:08 VisceraEyes wrote: There's useless and there's maliciously useless. I've never encountered someone with as little respect for his fellow players as grush, so I've never really been in a position to PL this kind of player before. Time and again grush proves that he's not only not interested in reading the thread, but he's also not interested in even posting coherently about the stuff he DOES read (which is generally the page of and prior to the latest post). No, I'm done playing with grush until he can prove he's gonna actually play the game. Which he can't do because hes banned making it a pointless lynch since it means no discussion / sides / connections to be made | ||
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I made a role that kinda hard brakes claiming what we made roles for so lets never ever do that. | ||
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On August 21 2012 07:50 Kenpachi wrote: kinda wanna kill Drazerk because i dont wanna take chances. Doesn't the same logic apply to you? | ||
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On August 21 2012 08:05 wherebugsgo wrote: Herp derp? I don't know if anyone else noticed this (I have to reread some of what I missed) but I saw this and figured it has to be pointed out. Unfortunately it's Drazerk, so to be completely honest my read of Drazerk doesn't change here. I'm an exception to my own rule because at some point I need to be taken down for the good of the town | ||
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On August 21 2012 08:50 Mattchew wrote: cause you haven't sunk your teeth into a real candidate with reason yet, you haven't picked a fight, you also havent explained why you havent done the previously mentioned things. you usually do atleast 1 of these things as town Sounds like you... | ||
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On August 21 2012 09:33 bumatlarge wrote: If a townie is ever split 50/50 on something and there is not much context to go on, he can rely on the "mafia dont shoot each other" technique. I would shoot my own team mates as scum so that isn't exactly true especially in a game which is likely to have trackers / watchers like this one since it throws town off so much that the end results are hilarious (Not to mention the team mate rage ) | ||
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Lets catch a scum today please? | ||
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On August 21 2012 11:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote: SRL? http://speedrunslive.com/race/?id=by0b4 Not that important but an awesome community | ||
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On August 22 2012 02:13 Mr. Wiggles wrote: If no one claims that shot within the next 5 minutes, I'm going to treat it as a scum shot, and Meowth becomes an instant lynch/shot. I already outed someone with KP why not look at him... | ||
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On August 22 2012 02:24 VisceraEyes wrote: Oh..Meowth...Team Rocket...I see what's going on here. Role != alignment Also scum can shoot at one another | ||
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On August 22 2012 02:29 VisceraEyes wrote: How imteresting of you to bring up Draz...tell me more. Read the thread | ||
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On August 22 2012 02:31 VisceraEyes wrote: I'd rather someone else do it for me. I'm injured,after all. lol you claimed rock type so that means you have another 1.5life which puts you still more alive than everyone else so you have no excuse | ||
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On August 22 2012 02:39 VisceraEyes wrote: Also how do you know how much damage I took anyway? I never claimed that. You claimed not very effective on a normal type that basically means rock / ground or ghost type = Veteran powers I naturally assume 1kp /2 = 0.5kp | ||
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On August 22 2012 02:42 VisceraEyes wrote: I said not very effective because I'm still alive. They are completely different things in the world of pokemon Be more specific or you will be banned from the shoddy servers | ||
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A combination of VE, mattchew and toad because I think the first two are useless and not playing to their potential and I think toad is Meowth But this is why I never choose who to lynch and its a silly question | ||
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On August 22 2012 03:41 VisceraEyes wrote: Shit is there more kp coming later or something?! wtf Payday gives money based on level IIRC its not multiple attack | ||
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On August 22 2012 03:50 Mementoss wrote: Just speculating but: Pay Day does damage, and scatters coins on the ground with a value equal to twice the user's level for each time it's used. These coins are picked up afterwards if the player wins the battle. I'm assuming whoever used pay day on VE doesn't want people to know, because after VE dies later in the game, the player who used payday on him will receive something. More coins for more payday? | ||
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On August 22 2012 06:47 HiroPro wrote: Whoever made Meowth should tell us what that role is. There is no reason for a townie to not have claimed the shot. I can think of a few - Multi shot compulsive day vigi Linked to another player (Lovers/Siblings (although more likely for Nidoran)) The fact there are roles out there that need names to kill people The fact there are roles out there that need names to turn them green There is probably more I can't think of right now but those are the ones that stick out in my head | ||
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On August 22 2012 10:24 grush57 wrote: Hey i got unbanned :D and now the grush discussions will restart... | ||
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It took a lot of arguments to get this role into the game but there is only one way around the power that I can't divulge but should be obvious if it is triggered however those already effected won't be able to do anything about it sadly I have been trying to hint this already but I really doubt people cared enough to look | ||
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On August 23 2012 02:20 strongandbig wrote: drazerk's thing doesn't hit you if you claim the role you received, it hits you if you claim the role you created. Yes it does sorry if that wasn't clear | ||
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On August 23 2012 03:07 strongandbig wrote: So could they have vanilla-lasered zephirdd when he claimed his role? What if someone fakeclaims? What if they claim part of their role and not a different part? If they get it wrong it fizzles If they try to multi target and even one is wrong - it fizzles | ||
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They are going to wait until they have at least 4-5 victims | ||
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On August 23 2012 03:17 Mementoss wrote: So basically this has to be a scum role and to use it, scum has to publicly out themselves, and have a chance of it being wrong and none of it working, and then they just get killed for it?... Sounds so fake. Well no because its infinite use so even if they get it wrong the first time they can just post again within the next second | ||
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On August 23 2012 03:21 Mementoss wrote: So you could just spam the thread and guess every 151 pokemon for 1 person and then make them a VT no matter what. For sacrificing your life... Theres a catch with spamming it - Trust me with this one. | ||
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Better than most of his games | ||
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On August 23 2012 06:06 Kurumi wrote: Nah I lied about my role to help Drazerk. But he seems to be dying so How did you know about it being butterfree? | ||
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On August 23 2012 06:11 Kurumi wrote: Also the role is not that bad Drazzie, although one part is a little sad haha I had to balance it somehow | ||
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On August 23 2012 06:15 Kurumi wrote: Yeah, I guess you have taken the idea from the first Ptp I guess? Nice though, good for both sides too. Will I evolve though? Can't say due to the evolution mechanics I put in place | ||
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I FUCKING CALLED IT | ||
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Fire damage now does 0.5kp more damage which shouldn't be too bad when you consider we just killed 1 of 3 fire pokemon in the first generation Water damage now does 0.5kp LESS which should reduce over all KP considering just how many water pokemon there is in every generation (so many water pokemon) and put a lot more focus on the lynches rather than all the crazy powers. | ||
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I forgot about growlif T_T | ||
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Moltres is legendary so I've excluded it (There are no flying types in this game check the OP) | ||
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On August 23 2012 10:05 Mementoss wrote: You realize there is no only flying type pokemon in gen 1 , all of them have another type which are all covered in OP. There are only two pure flying types Tornadoes and Arceus | ||
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I read him as a vet trying to take bullets but we really need to see more of him | ||
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On August 23 2012 10:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I do believe it is, however lurking the thread then voting without posting at all is also a pretty terrible play. ... You're aware you're speaking to Kenpachi right? | ||
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I guess a spam storm between BC / Wiggles was averted by his death which is a perk but I would of preferred it being a lynch so people would have had to pick sides with our vets | ||
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I dislike Wiggles because of the timing on the shooting and the majority of his play only happening when he was under scrutiny. Mattchew is giving me bad vibes but the bandwagon is ALSO giving me bad vibes so I'm not sure what to do about that but given the choice of Mattcher / Dirk ill probably vote mattchew I want to see more of the following - Jinglehell, Heist and Misder or for someone to shoot all three I also want Kurumi to tell us what he knows about Zel because something is clearly up with that. | ||
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On August 24 2012 09:40 Mattchew wrote: so since everyone wants to ignore my question i am pikachu, a blue pokemon, who can do .5 kp of damage every night and I shot wiggles night 1 and he never said anything about being shot which i find weird. I also think Dirk is scum so I would like to lynch him and finish my shots on wiggles but meh whatever. the amount of connection theory scum hunting going on is disgusting by the way. Would people be told they was hit even if they took 0 damage? | ||
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On August 24 2012 16:46 Kurumi wrote: I am braindead so I forgot that Draz made my role and I am the laser guy lol Obligatory hurt durr i am a horse Will try to get a photo of me with pants on my head Don't use harden It kills you even though it will say other whys | ||
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On August 24 2012 17:34 Kurumi wrote: Yeah it would be good to evolve into that damn Metapod first You will at the end of this cycle | ||
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##Vote: Mattchew | ||
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Huh I thought the water cancelled that out... I HAVE A GDOS ON MY DRIZZLE TEAM T_T | ||
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On August 24 2012 23:32 Mattchew wrote: So you all believe that I have a scum team that didn't tell me I have a full kp instead of a .5 and that if I had known I had a full kp I would still post in the thread that I shot a target I didnt end up actually shooting and one that didn't die and that I hit them .5 kp. All this would be a huge risk for what? What does me flipping scum make wiggles ? Are you all this bad at deductive reasoning? I'd throw my entire team mate under a bus any day; I let my team make their own mistakes and don't help them at all. So yes it is completely possible your scum team hates your guts and want you dead to buy themselves the SMALLEST shred of town credit. | ||
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I also dislike Misder please shoot him. | ||
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On August 25 2012 11:43 Zephirdd wrote: What the fuck is this post. ...with that I am out to a party. You always seem to be going somewhere don't you | ||
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On August 25 2012 11:48 Zephirdd wrote: EBWOP it's 23:47 BRT and I've been working all week. it's night. Now explain that post. I woke up to a mislynch and I am starting to hate this town Misder is an active lurker with bad arguments with a throw away vote and needs to die | ||
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Kill him with fire also Dirk nice zodiac list | ||
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On August 26 2012 12:27 grush57 wrote: I mean their both scum. But, Wiggles would be a better choice imo. I see misder as a sure scum Wiggles I see as 80% probablity of scum I always go for the sure scum. | ||
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@Dirk - Zodiac list is basically a sum up of every player in the game... which is kinda useless IMO | ||
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This is exactly why scum would shoot someone at that point (Ally or foe it matters not). This was done only to cause confusion and mayhem later in the game when we deal with VE since scum are clearly not going to kill him any time soon after that shot. | ||
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On August 28 2012 06:09 Kurumi wrote: Drazzie how do I evolve? t-t Don't use harden for two cycles in a row. For people in the thread - if Kurumi uses harden he becomes immune to lynches so yeah shoot him in the face but unable to do anything for the rest of the game so he will be stuck in an eternal harden loop. As for the VE lynch... this is why we lynch the scum in front of us rather than the last minute cases brought forth by someone who half of you was voting for and even used the shot as a reason to call him scum which I told everyone to ignore for obvious reasons. So here is how tomorrow will work. We shoot Misder or Kenpachi or any other shit lurker tonight and we all become MUCH MUCH MUCH more active ( If you have less than 10 pages filter by the next cycle you're doing it wrong (No I don't care if it makes the thread hard to read for you lazy asses long discussions are good and its something we horribly need at the moment) ) and we lynch the scum in front of us like Misder. And non of us go to sleep during the deadline times no matter how tired I am. | ||
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On August 28 2012 21:12 Mattchew wrote: I am not shooting tonight. Why? | ||
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On August 28 2012 21:51 Dirkzor wrote: Okay drazark. Lets crank up the activity. I know its night and all but we have to start somewhere. You have mentioned Misder more then once and that we should kill him. You never said why or mentioned any case on him. Explain to my why you think he is scum. I don't mention cases generally since I demand people read the thread and when the cases are in place its obvious I've read them and based my opinions from them its rarely my job to convince people to join a bandwagon I simply jump up and down and shout at people until they vote for who I want. It looks like he knows more than us (This post stuck out for me especially) On August 25 2012 04:37 Misder wrote: Really, this lynch is between 3 townies. This is ridiculous. he has been jumping on bandwagons (Latest one) On August 28 2012 05:50 Misder wrote: + Show Spoiler + On August 28 2012 05:10 Mr. Wiggles wrote: VE is scum. Day 1 he came out posting about policy lynching Grush. His reasons were not based on alignment. He put the onus of scumhunting onto other people, telling them it was their responsibility to convince him to lynch someone other than grush. Not convince him that their targets were scummier than grush, because his policy lynch wasn't based on grush being scummy, just that it would be better to try to lynch scum than a random person. After he was rightfully called out on his posting, VE pulled a 180. Some kind of sentiment that VE was town was created, as he very quickly jumped in between three different targets, with only one of them being somewhat original. What puts me off about this, is how quick of a turn-around it was and how badly it reeked of wanting to appease the people out for his blood. First, VE didn't defend his policy lynch on Grush, he just jumped to accusing other people after being accused. As well, VE didn't just accuse one person and attempt to get them lynched, he made a big show of jumping in-between three different targets and saying that he thought all of them were scum. This looks a lot like he was trying to go, "Hey, look at me! I'm scumhunting!", especially when contrasted with his play earlier. So, it looks as though the sudden spurt in apparent scum hunting and effort was made to avoid pressure, which makes sense, since after Day 1 the pressure dropped and so did the contributions from VE. After Day 1, the "scumhunting effort" from VE stopped. His play from then on has consisted of sheeping the lynch sentiment against myself and Misder while adding nothing of value to the cases against either of us. As pointed out by others, VE has been making promises of contribution, but has not been keeping them. Notably, making a case against either myself or Misder. As well, he failed to comment on either my case against BC or BC's defense and case against me while BC was alive. VE makes this post: Saying he will comment on my case. However, even though he was in the thread for the next two or so hours, he never comments directly on the case either by myself or BC, even though he has clearly read them. He avoids taking a side in the conflict between us, which supports VE's general play this game of laying low and avoiding attention, especially if his team was already planning on using their shot on BC. After BC dies, VE comes back and uses the death of BC to put a vote on me. However, read the post where he did so: In this post, VE does not make mention of BC having a good case, or even agreeing with the case BC made against me. Instead he insinuates that the death of BC was a result of trying to get me lynched, and uses the fact that BC has flipped town as a point for people to sheep to in support of him. The point of this post isn't to say that BC made a good case and town should lynch for it, it's to try to manipulate people into voting me because BC wanted to. It relies on an appeal to authority and the assumption that because BC was town, he was correct. Coming from a player with as much experience as VE, this isn't a simple mistake in logic. It's an attempt to cash in on an emotional response to BC dying and flipping town to try to push a mislynch. As for supporting meta, VE usually plays somewhat aggressively and is very outspoken, to the point where he is often lynched early into the game as he forces focus and attention towards himself. This is markedly different from how he has been playing this game, where he has played very passively and avoided attention. This difference could be explained with role considerations giving VE a reason to act as he is, but VE is not playing in a way that he is contributing to the town while maintaining a low profile, he is instead playing in a way that he only does enough to keep people off his back before sinking into passivity again. Altogether, this makes him scum. I like. Still confused why scum would shoot their own scumbuddy (at least the way Toad did it), but I can roll with this. ##Vote: VisceraEyes all the while he has been actively lurking (Still doesn't have a second page on his filter) | ||
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On August 28 2012 22:24 Dirkzor wrote: I think all night actions are random. Something fishy is up with the night actions in some way since my action night 1 didn't really do what it was supposed to do. Yes i just claimed to have night actions O_o I think claiming a power is pretty safe in this game lol | ||
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On August 29 2012 00:18 Dirkzor wrote: Kurumi and drazark can you just explain the freaking role already?? I'm tired of these hints and shit.. Bolded part: then you play a bad townie. If you think you are right it is your duty to try to convince people to vote like you. If you had just "jumped up and down" to do so it would MAYBE have been ok. But you didn't. Your way of doing things is scummy. Once again I was asleep you can't blame me that no one was active when I was | ||
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On August 29 2012 00:22 Kurumi wrote: Dirkzor: My power as Caterpie was delaying any action by one cycle. <3 You also got name checks back from any non super effective type who visited you when you evolved | ||
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On August 29 2012 00:27 Kurumi wrote: Nobody touched me, life is boring as a Caterpie! Awww no mass VT laser in the first 5 seconds of being a butterfree | ||
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On August 29 2012 00:31 Kurumi wrote: Ah whatever! Too bad we have no listcheck dts in this game, they are so fun... To be fair your role sort of becomes a list check depending on how you use it | ||
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On August 29 2012 00:53 Dirkzor wrote: What up? Why did 5 (?) people die night1 then? They have to target him... | ||
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Why it didn't effect everyone (As evident by the fact people still died) I don't understand yet | ||
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On August 29 2012 01:32 JingleHell wrote: I don't particularly either, was just pointing out that we shouldn't exclude it as a possibility. I've also mentioned my bizarre gym badge idea (Giovanni WAS part of Toad's role, and we didn't see that part of the PM after all), as well as the possibility of extended confusion. Badges only effect traded pokemon this would mean the following evolution lines - Town Ekins Town Oddish Town Mankey Town Growlife Town Syther Town Electrabuzz Scum Sandrew Scum Vulpix Scum Belsprout Scum Magmar Scum Pinsir | ||
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Mr. Mime Nidoran (F) Nidoran Lickitung Jynx Farfetch'd Seel Electrode Tangela Abra Nidoran (M) Nidorino Slowbro Poliwhirl Spearow Ponyta Raichu Venonat Now that I think about it almost all pokemon would have been effected by a gym badge effect T_T | ||
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On August 29 2012 01:44 JingleHell wrote: I know badges only affect traded pokemon as a rule, but my whole point is we don't know what's up with the Giovanni thing, and it's dangerous to make assumptions. It could be purely a GF type role flavor, it could be badge related, we don't know. What we do know is that powers seem vaguely unreliable lately, whether that's due to interference from scum or some external mechanic we're not aware of. Mewtwo also died which adds even more possibilities :S | ||
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On August 29 2012 01:44 Dirkzor wrote: Draz I have no clue what you are talking about. I've never played that much pokemon so care to explain it in full? If you trade pokemon you need badges for them to obey you - all the pokemon I listed are traded pokemon | ||
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On August 29 2012 02:01 austinmcc wrote: Was this a first generation rule? I rememeber a few evolutions were only possible after trades, but nothing about badges. Its why you actually get badges in the games | ||
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On August 29 2012 02:03 JingleHell wrote: Yes, it's just that the levels on the badges were absurd, so you were really unlikely to have trouble with it unless you got something WAY the fuck above your level passed to you, and then actually tried to use it, which would have just screwed the rest of your pokemon over. In first generation you only need to use Blastoise (Red / Blue) or Nidoking + Zapdos (For yellow) to beat the entire game (HM slaves excluded) | ||
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On August 29 2012 02:03 JingleHell wrote: Actually, IIRC, aside from HMs and traded pokemon, there was no other use for badges first gen, all the crazy stuff came later, didn't it? There is no other use for badges even in fifth gen other than story triggers | ||
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On August 29 2012 02:08 Dirkzor wrote: Why are you being so defensive-aggresive about this? I just wanted to know if I understood your post correctly (that you thought Mattchew was lying). Then you go all apeshit on me. That didn't happen 0.o | ||
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Answer me that Dirk | ||
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On August 29 2012 06:20 grush57 wrote: OMG HE VOTED A SCUM, THEREFORE SCUM. JINGLEHELL LOGIC YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA lol the active lurker is as strong as Misder | ||
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We haven't seen scum KP in a while now have we? | ||
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On August 29 2012 06:40 HiroPro wrote: the mafia team kp probably changes flavor/type depending on who carries it out. If thats true Mattchew must be scum which seems unlikely at this point (Although I personally think that defence he keeps quoting is useless and I'm not sure what people see in it but hey what do I know) | ||
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So a normal typed veteran with medic abilities... hmmm.... I really can't think of what possible pokemon this could be... Seriously Kurumi you pretty much outed the pokemon | ||
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Softboiled Substitute Double team Toxic Whats the bet on 175HP substitutes while being unhitable without the evasion claus in place all the while using Toxic to kill any non steel types | ||
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YOU PROMISED WE WOULDN'T HAVE A REPEAT OF LAST CYCLE | ||
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I prefer grush over Bio but that is probably because grush is more in your face annoying rather than keeping under the radar | ||
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Me and JH discussed almost every possible reason as to why the night actions during N2 was screwed with last night the short answer is we can't know until someone steps forward or we kill the person who screwed with it. As for scum KP the easy answer could be they aren't killing anyone? Be it via roleblock / medic protects / veteran abilities we simply don't know but that seems like the more logical solution rather than Hiro's solution which means Mattchew is 100% scum. I also threw around the idea the only KP scum have is the KP the players started with, that still might be the case for all we know. | ||
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On August 30 2012 02:59 Mattchew wrote: ok I am voting biosc until he tells me who he targeted each night with his ability. I really hope the rest of you will to ##vote biosc Care to explain? | ||
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On August 30 2012 03:00 Mattchew wrote: i would rather force him to answer. then explain Fair enough | ||
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I thought we settled this two PTPs ago... Role != Alignment and a final note - If LoTr mafia taught me anything... always kill the fucking medics *Cough* Wait that last line only applies to me... | ||
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I'd use my ability pro town and once again there is nothing town like about throwing your team under a bus. I LOVE pissing off my own scum team its just fun and makes you look more townie. | ||
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Who are we thinking about lynching and why? How long is this TL downtime? | ||
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On August 30 2012 22:57 Mattchew wrote: nah dude, its a troll witch doctor taking down the site, so its a ward Who plays witch doctor 0.o | ||
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Do you think Kurumi is town? Do you think Kurumi is responsible? | ||
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On August 31 2012 02:31 Mattchew wrote: btw, at this point i am fairly confident that we can just lynch our way to victory and our powers wont be absolutely necessary Probably but I am overly paranoid at the later stages of themed games do you want a repeat of what happened with me at Holy Roman? (That was amazing for me though ) | ||
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On August 31 2012 02:28 Mattchew wrote: So kurumi can name a pokemon and make them VT? And yes thats how the ability works if the mods haven't touched it too much since I last saw it | ||
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On August 31 2012 02:49 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Isn't Jinglehell saying he was notified he received a shield though? Also, no check Night 1, Draitini Night 2, Pikachu Night 3. MAGIC! | ||
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I say that and we have a hitmonlee who wields key blades... I honestly prefer a Grush lynch over Wiggles | ||
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On August 31 2012 04:17 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Draz, what do you think of Hiro? Very similiar posting style to me, he does seem to always be present but its a null tell in the same way Kenpachi is (We really need to deal with him at some point) This is interesting though - On August 29 2012 13:09 HiroPro wrote: A Snorlax uses Body Slam (1 KP) at night on Ditto. Does transform reflect the damage back onto Snorlax? | ||
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Body slam? | ||
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##Vote: Mr. Wiggles The amount of information it confirms is pretty god like to be honest and its really the only wagon this cycle meaning at this point I may as well be voting myself for the good it will do T_T | ||
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If he flips town we have confirm his checks if he flips scum we have to assess his checks if he is actually a DT if he flips scum but not a DT we still have to assess his checks but this time it doesn't matter too much since the two pokemon he used was already publicly announced so yeah... | ||
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I can see that | ||
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Seriously did he actually care about the game? | ||
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Bugs killed himself by hitting me when I had bussed him because I didn't think anyone would shoot at bugs (Well someone shot at me and then killed bugs but its more likely bugs killed himself since his KP never popping up (Then again no one's ability popped up so who knows)) The bus was a 1 time the last ability I have left is sleep powder which is a role block to the first person who visits me including medics / DTs etc which go in order of a ranking list Dec won't tell me but he assures me exists... | ||
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On August 31 2012 07:45 JingleHell wrote: I was kind of operating under the assumption that Giovanni was at least partially a GF role, given the Team Rocket flavor... S+B was also a GF role I wouldn't put it past people to make a ton of them to mess with us | ||
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YAY I HAVE SOMEONE TO TALK TO WHILE THE AMERICANS SLEEP! | ||
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USE ABILITY 1 FIRST REGARDLESS OF SITUATION USE ABILITY 2 IF YOU WANT TO BE A DICK USE ABILITY 3 WHEN YOU ARE CERTAIN | ||
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FEW MORE HOURS! | ||
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If I hadn't of told you about the down sides would you have used harden? | ||
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On September 01 2012 02:08 JingleHell wrote: Is that actually physically possible? Anything is possible when you're a butterfree and not a weak ass Catterpie I'm on a Ponyta | ||
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That he did | ||
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do you still have all three abilities and how nerfed is ability 3? | ||
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If he has KP it'll pop up | ||
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We don't want you firing it and then finding out its been changed to a point it doesn't work meaning you can't instead use ability 1 or 2 | ||
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On September 01 2012 06:23 Kurumi wrote: 1 ability per cycle, eh? Kenpachi claimed snorlax the medic right? I can devolve him. Check with the hosts about your ability | ||
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Damn that got nerfed then | ||
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Now to look at Kenpachi / Zeph | ||
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Forces an attack on a completely random player (Can hit Kurumi and the guy who uses the attack) VT laser beam | ||
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Do I make cool roles or do I make cool roles? | ||
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On September 01 2012 07:17 Kurumi wrote: I have no idea, I wasn't asked to give an evolution for Chansey... because it doesn't evolve in Gen I... Should I check if grush is Shellder? Probably wise | ||
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On September 01 2012 07:26 Kurumi wrote: Nah, I'd rather lynch grush and get rid of Kenpachi's role? Rather you target Hiro tbh | ||
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On September 01 2012 07:32 HiroPro wrote: lol? What do I turn into now? a tail? An egg | ||
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So you could of done Kenpachi and Hiro... | ||
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What do you think about following wiggle's final words and killing Kenpachi or Hiropro? What do you think about Grush STILL not role claiming What do you think of our other medic Zeph? Do you think we should invoke the RNG gods and have Kurumi force JH to attack someone to see if he is lying about his role? | ||
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On September 01 2012 07:54 austinmcc wrote: I know that Zelblade picked a role for Ghastly, but not for any evolutions. So not all pokemon that can evolve may. People who made roles with evolutions gained 0 knowledge about their evolutions so ghastly may of evolved :S | ||
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Can you find out? | ||
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Can you make sure? | ||
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Well isn't that fun... | ||
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Know who that is? Scum. | ||
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On September 02 2012 01:19 Kurumi wrote: The second devolution beam was counted. So that would of been grush fucking it up | ||
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Now we have found out we HAVE to lynch grush... bit more interesting | ||
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Stupid Dota games being so good... | ||
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On September 02 2012 04:28 Kurumi wrote: The second got triggered. It tells us nothing sadly. I wonder why that happened... | ||
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Kenpachi Hiro Grush One of them need to die today and Hiro is the one I trust the least at the moment (Even though grush is really annoying at the moment) | ||
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Its why we are seriously considering him for todays lynch | ||
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Evolution is weird and probably just linked to what the person had in mind when they made it As for the delays do you really want to wait another cycle to see if thats the case? that comes forth as incredibly risky Another thought could be Kenpachi has a super heal and has done all of this to confuse us into lynching Hiro | ||
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Misdirected the shot onto Zeph who is claiming veteran medic? | ||
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1.Kenpachi protected Hiro to confuse us into lynching Hiro 2. Kenpachi is town and protected a scum Hiro because he wants to piss off town and drag us all down with him ALA LOTR Drazerk medic strat 3. They are both scum? | ||
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On September 02 2012 07:38 HiroPro wrote: well I didn't really consider the possibility that he would protect me lol. Seems dumb when he could just let me take the hit. Considering the lynch was between you two (And maybe grush) it seems logical to delay your death so he can survive another cycle | ||
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Ok that was my bad rofl | ||
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Perma medic is pretty scary for scum even worse than the town confirmed vigi Then again Mattchew has performance issues so we can't really blame people not killing him | ||
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(Unless they go crazy and want to kill themselves or something) If grush does something stupid slap him Kurumi I want to see you discussing these things now you're role is useless for this cycle JH still reacts violently when ever we briefly suspect them and that really bugs me especially when he is the only electric type left on the board and the electrocute KP is still unresolved Zeph is still super lurking but then again so is most of the town. Don't forget about Hiro he could still be scum and dangerous. | ||
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As I said I believe either clefairy or time based mechanics | ||
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Its a possibility I guess another is that he delays damage aimed at him but then why would he claim being hit since he already knew he would be taking the damage anyway. I can't for the life of me explain the Hiro hits other than Kenpachi's heal at the moment and that makes me focus on Kenpachi rather than Hiro but maybe Hiro isn't telling us the truth which is why I would of REALLY LIKED A DT CHECK ON HIM KURUMI. | ||
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We can't decide | ||
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Kenpachi only has the tools to explain last night... I'm leaning more towards Hiro at the moment what does everyone else think? | ||
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On September 03 2012 05:22 austinmcc wrote: Wat. Can't tell if trying to save self or serious. Seriously can't tell if people suck or scum this game... like its almost impossible | ||
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I've already suggested they only have ability KP | ||
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Shooting him just wastes your own ability | ||
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If there anyone we can actually shoot? | ||
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On September 03 2012 14:56 Zephirdd wrote: grush, if you were the easy townie to lynch, you'd have been lynched already. point is: I'm the only one right now who thinks you are more disruptive than any other candidate right now. You claim that all I do is lurk and come back every X hours sheeping someone, but you do no different. Except that you just spill out non-sense shit without anything to back it up. For instance, why the hell is kenpachi a better shot than you, and why am I a better lynch than you? rather, why are you suggesting that both medics should die when you've been pretty much worthless for town all game long? Seriously? READ THE GORRAM THREAD | ||
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Sadly I really doubt Zeph protected you because lets face it he hasn't reading the thread - Is claiming he hasn't been using his powers and is all around useless meaning I only have my own word to explain that I didn't hit you with the KP with sucks. Luckily I have Kurumi who can hit me with the laser if it really bothers you (It also stops them using scum KP which is really handy(Provided thats how scum KP works but I made with the presumption in mind )) Of course there is the major issue of if he is hitting me and then somehow gets Grush wrong because he is a lying git (We're still hitting grush with the VT laser right?) then my plan doesn't exactly work and its probably best Mattchew shoots me to end any uncertainties and to be fair its not exactly like we have a long list of people we can shoot at (Me you mattchew JH Kenpachi and Kurumi are killable (You and Mattchew are confirmed leaving me JH Kenpachi and Kurumi to use the Vigi shot on (But then Mattchews only hits me for 0.5kp meaning he can't shoot me FUCK I didn't think this out at all T_T but its still stupidly hypothetical by this stage))) also I clearly love parentheses | ||
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Retarded idea but possible | ||
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Why is it being hidden? | ||
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This is my plan I understand why anyone wouldn't want me around at LYLO | ||
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Other than us two who has actually done ANYTHING the last 2 cycles? | ||
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On September 09 2012 07:14 Mattchew wrote: Why did we have a night phase if zeph couldn't be shot Zeph forgot to send in actions so many times you might of gotten an extra cycle | ||
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S+B and me meh you have me there | ||
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On September 09 2012 08:03 deconduo wrote: Yeah but you knew it was a 0.5 KP attack when you shouldn't have known As Austin said earlier - a 0.000000001kp attack is slightly retarded | ||
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On September 09 2012 09:12 Toadesstern wrote: thing is that is a default lose for town if you're town. + Show Spoiler + BURN, just kidding :p Silly Toad I always role scum even when I actually role town. | ||
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