On October 09 2012 05:54 risk.nuke wrote:
Why do you believe the third party is sk?
Why do you believe the third party is sk?
So you are suggesting that he is a third party who can't kp and his only power is to survive kps?
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On October 09 2012 05:54 risk.nuke wrote: Why do you believe the third party is sk? So you are suggesting that he is a third party who can't kp and his only power is to survive kps? | ||
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First you lie about suspecting coag. Then you say you are going to look through my past games to figure out if I'm a moron or scum. Did you do that? I hope not because it would be a collosal waste of time given how limited your time must be to justify your lack of contributions to this game. But if you actually did that then kudos to you. You should have come to the conclusion that I am indeed a moron. So why are you so suspicious of me? Because marv and hapa defended me? Well scum node attacked me. I think mafia see me as an easy target and use me to distance themselves from each other. I am an easy scum target because I have acted superficially scummy. | ||
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I would definitely not describe this game as damn fine work, although fubas crumb was really good. When I get home I will make a case against you VE. I hope you will respond to it rather than just disregarding me as a garbage player. | ||
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But the thing is everyone knows that they like to buddy up. As scum they are trying to imitate their town play. So wouldn't it make sense that they would also buddy up as scum? | ||
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Marv defending me means nothing. If that is your primary reasons for voting me then that is weak and you know it. DP your primary reason for voting me is that I fucked with you? You don't see how that is something a town or scum kush could have done? If anything it's a null tell. Look at my play, if you can bear to drudge through my filter. @VE your activity has been really bad and if you are town I doubt you put much thought into this vote. Why would you vote for an outlier candidate instead of a popular one? You haven't done of the legwork to make a case against me and convince others. | ||
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On October 09 2012 17:16 DarthPunk wrote: Show nested quote + On October 09 2012 15:32 Keirathi wrote: On October 09 2012 15:03 DarthPunk wrote: On October 09 2012 14:50 Keirathi wrote: @VE: Why was marv so willing to bus Node on day1, but spent time hard defending kush? I certainly don't think its impossible, but that's a pretty extreme dichotomy. WIFOM. Man. WIFOM. Yea, its WIFOM. But I've been thinking about kush a lot, and VE jumping in and voting for him made me start thinking about it. Here's my current train of thought (and yes, before you say it, its still WIFOM, but I believe it actually makes some sense). Kush comes under pretty heavy pressure day 1, and marv immediately jumps in to defend him pretty damn hard. Also, kush is the kind of player that's always an easy lynch, so as scum he would at some point be a liability to a scum marv that plans to survive until the end game (and yes, that is always marv's goal. He prides himself of being "unlynchable"). So, lets say it gets to that point and Kush flips scum. Now, because of marv's hard defense, marv looks pretty damn bad. Say what you want about being WIFOM, but scum marv almost never does things that make him look bad. Go read basically any scum game that he has ever played. He busses players that will be a liability to him surviving, and otherwise distances himself from his teammates. So, the only way for marv not to look bad for hard-defending scum Kush is for him to plan for Kush to never get flipped. And I'm just not sure even marv is capable of that. Which leads me to the conclusion that either 1) kush is town, or 2) marv planned to have a "change of heart" and bus kush at some point. Based on marv's past games as scum, I think (1) is more likely than (2). Man Keir. You know this is WIFOM and near useless. Even if Kush flipped this exact argument could keep marv out of hot water. The way I see it. Is that both node and Kush were targets early and any competent player at that point does not want to lose 2 scum that early . Anyway. I am not convinced by your WIFOM arguments for obvious reasons. I would ask why would town Kush set WIFOM bombs at me with the express aim of disabling my ability to read him.? Why would he troll and crap up the thread.? Why would he tunnel Viscera Eyes, and none of the players similar to him, as his entire scumhunting contribution this game? Those are all questions that need to be answered, and I think both you and I know that WIFOMing about what marv would/wouldn't do to make a read on someone is just plain silly. My wifom bombs didn't permanently disable a read of me. Look at my fucking filter, instead of constantly saying that. Why would I do it as town?? BECAUSE I WAS BUTTHURT how can you not understand this? No I'm not always 100% super serious scumhunt, you should know this. Yeah Keirathi's defense is pretty wifom. But the idea that Marv defended me so that makes me scum, that is also WIFOM. Your case on me is total wifom. | ||
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OMG i masked my alignment with wifom bombs for 1 pages??? How long is my filter? More than 1 page. There should be other places to find scumtells why cant you find them? | ||
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On October 09 2012 17:31 DarthPunk wrote: Show nested quote + On October 09 2012 17:24 kushm4sta wrote: On October 09 2012 17:16 DarthPunk wrote: On October 09 2012 15:32 Keirathi wrote: On October 09 2012 15:03 DarthPunk wrote: On October 09 2012 14:50 Keirathi wrote: @VE: Why was marv so willing to bus Node on day1, but spent time hard defending kush? I certainly don't think its impossible, but that's a pretty extreme dichotomy. WIFOM. Man. WIFOM. Yea, its WIFOM. But I've been thinking about kush a lot, and VE jumping in and voting for him made me start thinking about it. Here's my current train of thought (and yes, before you say it, its still WIFOM, but I believe it actually makes some sense). Kush comes under pretty heavy pressure day 1, and marv immediately jumps in to defend him pretty damn hard. Also, kush is the kind of player that's always an easy lynch, so as scum he would at some point be a liability to a scum marv that plans to survive until the end game (and yes, that is always marv's goal. He prides himself of being "unlynchable"). So, lets say it gets to that point and Kush flips scum. Now, because of marv's hard defense, marv looks pretty damn bad. Say what you want about being WIFOM, but scum marv almost never does things that make him look bad. Go read basically any scum game that he has ever played. He busses players that will be a liability to him surviving, and otherwise distances himself from his teammates. So, the only way for marv not to look bad for hard-defending scum Kush is for him to plan for Kush to never get flipped. And I'm just not sure even marv is capable of that. Which leads me to the conclusion that either 1) kush is town, or 2) marv planned to have a "change of heart" and bus kush at some point. Based on marv's past games as scum, I think (1) is more likely than (2). Man Keir. You know this is WIFOM and near useless. Even if Kush flipped this exact argument could keep marv out of hot water. The way I see it. Is that both node and Kush were targets early and any competent player at that point does not want to lose 2 scum that early . Anyway. I am not convinced by your WIFOM arguments for obvious reasons. I would ask why would town Kush set WIFOM bombs at me with the express aim of disabling my ability to read him.? Why would he troll and crap up the thread.? Why would he tunnel Viscera Eyes, and none of the players similar to him, as his entire scumhunting contribution this game? Those are all questions that need to be answered, and I think both you and I know that WIFOMing about what marv would/wouldn't do to make a read on someone is just plain silly. My wifom bombs didn't permanently disable a read of me. Look at my fucking filter, instead of constantly saying that. Why would I do it as town?? BECAUSE I WAS BUTTHURT how can you not understand this? No I'm not always 100% super serious scumhunt, you should know this. Yeah Keirathi's defense is pretty wifom. But the idea that Marv defended me so that makes me scum, that is also WIFOM. Your case on me is total wifom. My case on you has some WIFOM but is far from pure WIFOM. You are aware of your meta so it is useless in making a read on you. And it is funny that your only defense is that you are not playing to your scum meta. Or is there something else that you are trying to achieve by directing me to your filter as your defense. My defense has nothing to do with meta. I'm saying YOUR defense has everything to do with meta so you should read my filter because I think it paints me really green without any consideration of meta. You are aware of your meta so it is useless in making a read on you Everyone is aware of their own meta. Not all reads are based on meta LOL | ||
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On October 04 2012 05:02 VisceraEyes wrote: Node is almost certainly not the scum. There was a very real possibility that he would have been lynched and annul was right, a bus in that situation would have been pretty suboptimal. Marv is definitely the scums. Whoever he never mentions in the game I'd probably have a hard look at. Otherwise I haven't reread the game (as I said I would :<) so I'm crippled until I do. BC what do you think of Mattchew? Marv is definitely scums huh? Sick scumhunting, except this is after he was outed by the paramedic. On October 06 2012 21:10 VisceraEyes wrote: ##Vote: Hapa Twice in one game. Damn fine work guys. Sick crumb fuba. damn fine work lol... paramedic opness is damn fine work? On October 07 2012 03:34 VisceraEyes wrote: I'd like to begin by stating, for the record, that I'm well aware that I've been less active than normal. For obvious reasons the lynches have been pretty set in stone - but on top of that the steering just went out on my car and I'm looking for a new one. I've been watching the thread though and I'm ready to put this down. Coagulation My main issue with coag's play hasn't been his inactivity. It's the fact that when asked for his scumreads, he invariably chooses people for reasons he himself is guilty of. Most recently he threw out myself and BC as scumreads, citing activity. Also I think this is a scumslip. Show nested quote + On October 04 2012 00:59 Coagulation wrote: On October 04 2012 00:57 Z-BosoN wrote: omfg lol @ coag. Here's to never taking him seriously ever again lol butt hurt townie detected. You will be ok big boy walk it off. Discuss. So this whole quote was a lie, so is this one: On October 07 2012 03:54 VisceraEyes wrote: What's YOUR fucking point? That's my point. Why did Z-Bos' indignation just immediately mean that he's a butthurt townie? Why could he not be OMGUSing scum? Why can't he be insidious third party? JUST ADMIT IT YOU'RE SCUM AREN'T YOU?! Lie explained here: On October 08 2012 08:18 VisceraEyes wrote: Mattchew on the other hand is not active and scummy. I never thought Coag was scum - I wanted to see who jumped onboard a shitty-ass case. Kush won. I'm presently looking over previous games to decide if I think it's because he's scum or because he's just really really bad. So is this a normal method of scumhunting for VE? I would guess not because he is considered a good player. On October 09 2012 07:10 VisceraEyes wrote: Show nested quote + On October 09 2012 07:05 kushm4sta wrote: VE why are you so hard on my ass all of a sudden? First you lie about suspecting coag. Then you say you are going to look through my past games to figure out if I'm a moron or scum. Did you do that? I hope not because it would be a collosal waste of time given how limited your time must be to justify your lack of contributions to this game. But if you actually did that then kudos to you. You should have come to the conclusion that I am indeed a moron. So why are you so suspicious of me? Because marv and hapa defended me? Well scum node attacked me. I think mafia see me as an easy target and use me to distance themselves from each other. I am an easy scum target because I have acted superficially scummy. I'll build a case when I have time. In the meantime, keep defending yourself against accusations I haven't made. I'm finding the reading incredibly interesting. If you know you dont have time, then why do you keep saying you will do things that you know you don't have time to do?! VE: he's playing bad he's playing scummy. Lynch him. ##vote VE | ||
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On October 09 2012 17:46 DarthPunk wrote: And it is very odd that you are just defending yourself and not OMGUSING like crazy right now. Which is what you usually do regardless of alignment. Add to that really good analysis out of nowhere. I could easily see you being coached this game. So anything I do, play like shit or try to play good, makes you more suspicious of me. Here's some true omgus for you: + Show Spoiler + I used to think you were good when you caught me d1. Now I realize that you just got lucky, and actually you are bad. I suspected your extreme badness when all your reads were dead wrong after you lynched me in the newbie game. However now your badness is confirmed. vote darthpenguin confirmed baddie | ||
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He is either 3rd party or vet but I haven't seen compelling evidence favoring one or the other. BC's sloosh case - I think a lot of the points BC brings up can be explained by sloosh's afking/disinterest. Basically not reading the thread, which I can't blame him for. I am still undecided whether or not I could bring myself to vote for sloosh. @sloosh how are you so sure that BC is 3rd party and not vet? | ||
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It's risky to lie about a roleblock. We have had 2 rb claims this game, VE and momentoss. The lack of RB claims makes it seem like there is only 1 RB. The fact that momentoss was RB means that there is a scum RB. If there is only 1 RB and it is scum, a scum VE getting roleblocked is impossible. So either: 1he lied about getting rb (the real scum rb died that night) 2he's town 3there is also a town rb and people just aren't claiming Disregarding his play, 2 seems the most likely. | ||
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z-boson is my top scumread and I would be willing to vote for him. For the 7-7 reason and for his over-reliance on meta except when he completely throws it out the window to switch votes and save a scum. | ||
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On October 04 2012 05:02 VisceraEyes wrote: Node is almost certainly not the scum. On October 10 2012 00:17 VisceraEyes wrote: He's certainly scum. We should be lynching Kush today. | ||
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On October 10 2012 00:17 VisceraEyes wrote: Kush fits the bill for newbie scum trying to blend in with town. Look at his D1 play when everyone was screaming at Shady. He slipped that he knew Shady would flip town, but wanted to kill him anyway. D1 at the end I had my vote on node, and I left it there until shady showed up like 5 minutes before lynch. I thought that was really suspicious and node wasn't getting lynched anyway. | ||
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On October 10 2012 00:24 VisceraEyes wrote: Show nested quote + On October 10 2012 00:21 kushm4sta wrote: On October 04 2012 05:02 VisceraEyes wrote: Node is almost certainly not the scum. On October 10 2012 00:17 VisceraEyes wrote: He's certainly scum. We should be lynching Kush today. What do these quotes mean? They mean that your reads are either really bad this game or you are scum. | ||
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On October 10 2012 00:30 Kreb wrote: Show nested quote + On October 09 2012 23:59 slOosh wrote: On October 09 2012 23:49 risk.nuke wrote: Sloosh, why do you want to lynch into third party rather then scum? My third party read is much much stronger than my scum reads. Show nested quote + On October 10 2012 00:00 slOosh wrote: Or rather, one of my stronger scum reads became a third party read. Neither of these reply to the question. Why do you want to lynch 3rd party rather than scum? Actually, that could be a question for everyone. Even if we knew BC was 100% 3rd party, do we really wanna lynch him? Does mafia or town benefit from keeping 3rd party alive? Well it's not really a relevant question at this time since we don't know that BC is third party and we also do not know the nature of the third party. I would say if it has a kp then it's definitely better to lynch a confirmed third party | ||
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