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On December 03 2012 21:19 syllogism wrote: I think healing is more important than restoring 1-shots. Some unresolved mysteries: - Kita's weird guessing game and the subsequent beanbag game, of which he never talks about again. - Risk's claimed roleblock. Is no one really going to claim this? - Number of mafia. It could be 5 or 6 - Why does Adam want to go to 2300 AD if his only ability is a very unreliable guessing vig? No one else seemed to be putting forward any decent suggestions. That is my only ability. | ||
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On December 03 2012 23:35 Acrofales wrote: Why bother? I was gonna decide which of risk and SnB should be lynched today, but then SnB got caught with his hand in the cookie jar. Risk.nuke can go back into lurking for the next 72 hours or so. He might jump back out for the odd omgus when someone calls him out for lurking and non-contributing. My opinion n time travel: lets go somewhere or most townie people get advantages. So far Keir as claimed 600 AD. Adam wants the future, but his ability sounds luck-based. Anybody else get bonuses in a specifc time? Yeah, my ability is fairly lousy with this level of flips. I figured a snowballs chance at 400 damage was more productive than one of 200 damage. That and suggestions like "lets go to the end of time because we got cool stuff there in the game" seemed like wishful thinking. | ||
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On December 04 2012 10:30 austinmcc wrote: As far as people who get something from a specific time we've got...Keirathi with 600 AD; Oatsmaster with 2300 AD; Adam wants 2300 AD as well. I'm down with 600 AD and doing whatever it is Keirathi needs done. Adam seems to want to shoot me (do you still want to? you're less active than me...) so I'd prefer he not get stronger, and Oats said whatever is in 2300 AD for him isn't super duper. My issue with Z-boson was not activity related, he was pushing vig shots with horrendous reasoning. You're making a lot more sense than Z-boson was, so i'm willing to look elsewhere for now. Ill probably blast VE tonight unless he makes a great case as to why I shouldn't. | ||
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On December 04 2012 10:50 austinmcc wrote: Show nested quote + I meant that, apart from knowing you want(ed) to shoot me, and wanting to go to 2300 AD to perhaps shoot me harder, I don't know know anything about what you think, because you're less active than the major voices.On December 04 2012 10:38 Adam4167 wrote: On December 04 2012 10:30 austinmcc wrote: As far as people who get something from a specific time we've got...Keirathi with 600 AD; Oatsmaster with 2300 AD; Adam wants 2300 AD as well. I'm down with 600 AD and doing whatever it is Keirathi needs done. Adam seems to want to shoot me (do you still want to? you're less active than me...) so I'd prefer he not get stronger, and Oats said whatever is in 2300 AD for him isn't super duper. My issue with Z-boson was not activity related, he was pushing vig shots with horrendous reasoning. You're making a lot more sense than Z-boson was, so i'm willing to look elsewhere for now. Ill probably blast VE tonight unless he makes a great case as to why I shouldn't. As are a bunch of people, but none of the others shot me, so I'm more concerned with what you're up to. Check my filter. I have concerns over VE. I thought Z-BosoN was scum and now i'm starting to think he was just incoherent. I thought GK looked pretty bad but I have reservations in the way he reacted to all of the pressure, it didn't feel like a scum reaction. S&B has made me look like an ass for me giving him a 'not scum' read and then going and killing Djodref, so he can die. I seem to have too many town reads at the moment, so ill be chucking most of my reads out over the course of this cycle and starting back at the beginning. | ||
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This is why hope is pushing Austin Right now, my list looks (not-so-surprisingly) like Acros. After reading Hope's case on Z-boson and revisiting my own, I just cant see how that came out of a town player. Anyone that's more familiar with Z-BosoN, is his logic usually sound? Does he usually make decent sense when hes town? Is he at least easy to follow? | ||
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On November 23 2012 06:55 Z-BosoN wrote: Btw guys, Strongandbig is likely scum. First of all, this is bullshit: Show nested quote + On November 23 2012 03:35 strongandbig wrote: holy shit this thread Anyone interested in a late switch to Marv? I've got a pretty strong town read on him right now, and I can't say that I like Syllo's election platform. marv if you were magically blasted into being a serious candidate would you tell people your picks so they can evaluate whether they agree with your reads or would you do a syllo and keep them secret? I'm also a little T_T that no one has talked any more about platforms/ideas for "party composition themes" like Sandro had, I do think having been in a successful party is a statistical indicator of townieness and the idea of spreading that out makes sense. That said, I'm not voting for Sandroba until he actually takes Syllo's case a little bit more seriously - seems like it's a reason people are dropping off his campaign wagon but he really has barely even mentioned it. there's some pretty srs reasoning there. Strong town read on marv? Really? If marv hadn't told be beforehand he wasn't gonna take this game seriously, I would have gone with scum read on marv. He spends a ton of time arguing with cave fellow for no reason at all, the guy is and has been a lost cause since he began posting. He's not nearly as active and as involved as his other games. He's not willing to run for party. I've reread his filter and there is nooooo way you can get a town read on marv that fast, with that kind of bad reasoning. Someone else had a town fast, with zero reasoning. Especially SNB, who's played with him a ton of times. SnB's filter though seems pretty much like his town filter from last game, in terms of low activity and post coutn, but I haven't played with him much. Marv, do you have any meta read on him? tl;dr I don't get how the hell it is that town can kill people this game (dunno if it's just roles or has something to do with the event). But if you guys have killing roles, go ahead and kill Strongandbig and Adam4167. These are my top two scum reads for now. Phagga has explained himself adequately and his posting seems townie-oriented, not gonna go too balls out on him. I was a bit suspicious of Prom before, but I feel like he's genuinely trying to participate. Strongandbig Adam4167 Bam bam bam Underlining is mine. | ||
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We either have a town Z-boson that wants to vig someone who is playing to their town meta, or a scum Z-boson in some lopsided bus attempt, where he calls s&b town but still wants him dead. | ||
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His entire case was "he has a town read on marv". I really don't see how he was getting scummy out of that. Then his next point is that S&B looks like his town meta. I don't see what part of that is scummy either. So how does he get to the conclusion of 'vig S&B, bam bam bam' with those two premises? | ||
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On November 19 2012 09:43 GreYMisT wrote: Factions and win conditions At some point in the game Lavos will be summoned. The powers and nature of Lavos are hidden until 1999 AD. Win conditions are based around Lavos. Lavos will spawn at a predetermined time in the game. If all mafia die, Lavos will be summoned immediately. | ||
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On December 05 2012 12:23 iamperfection wrote: Show nested quote + On December 05 2012 12:20 Adam4167 wrote: On November 19 2012 09:43 GreYMisT wrote: Factions and win conditions At some point in the game Lavos will be summoned. The powers and nature of Lavos are hidden until 1999 AD. Win conditions are based around Lavos. Lavos will spawn at a predetermined time in the game. If all mafia die, Lavos will be summoned immediately. 3rd party isnt considered anti town in that situation? I don't know how 3rd party are considered, that quote doesn't even mention them, nor does the rest of the OP give anything about them away. | ||
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Acro is probably the 'assassin' hes claiming to be afraid of, what does a survivor need a 1-shot role+alignment check for? Regardless, he has to shoot into the dark now since he spent his check on Toad, so hes not a threat unless hes feeling exceptionally lucky or someone claims the name hes looking for. All of this is irrelevant though, there's still scum out there, evident by lavos' absence. Why the big interest in Acro all of a sudden? | ||
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On December 05 2012 12:15 Hapahauli wrote: Show nested quote + On December 05 2012 12:10 Adam4167 wrote: Yeah I cant wrap my head around it, either way. We either have a town Z-boson that wants to vig someone who is playing to their town meta, or a scum Z-boson in some lopsided bus attempt, where he calls s&b town but still wants him dead. I don't think he's calling SnB town - he's just saying that SnB is showing some parts of his town meta. That's a lot less severe than you're suggesting IMO, and I lean to Z-Bo town in this case. Scum saying that one of their scum-buddies is showing town traits and then wanting him dead makes even less sense. I missed this post earlier. With all the crap that was going on in the thread at the time (Toad v Keirathi), (Syllo v Sandro) ect, his number one scum read is someone 'showing parts of their town meta' and this warrants a vigi shot on them? I think that's insane. When I see someone showing parts of their town meta, I assume that person is most probably town and look somewhere else! Or you question them further to consolidate that town read. Its the logical thing to do - you've done it dozens of times in your mafia career (I assume). You do not make this person your number 1 scum suspect and want to blow their head off. | ||
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On December 05 2012 15:37 Hapahauli wrote: Show nested quote + On December 05 2012 15:35 Adam4167 wrote: On December 05 2012 12:15 Hapahauli wrote: On December 05 2012 12:10 Adam4167 wrote: Yeah I cant wrap my head around it, either way. We either have a town Z-boson that wants to vig someone who is playing to their town meta, or a scum Z-boson in some lopsided bus attempt, where he calls s&b town but still wants him dead. I don't think he's calling SnB town - he's just saying that SnB is showing some parts of his town meta. That's a lot less severe than you're suggesting IMO, and I lean to Z-Bo town in this case. Scum saying that one of their scum-buddies is showing town traits and then wanting him dead makes even less sense. I missed this post earlier. With all the crap that was going on in the thread at the time (Toad v Keirathi), (Syllo v Sandro) ect, his number one scum read is someone 'showing parts of their town meta' and this warrants a vigi shot on them? I think that's insane. When I see someone showing parts of their town meta, I assume that person is most probably town and look somewhere else! Or you question them further to consolidate that town read. Its the logical thing to do - you've done it dozens of times in your mafia career (I assume). You do not make this person your number 1 scum suspect and want to blow their head off. Yeah but again, while it doesn't make much sense from a town perspective, it makes even less sense from a scum perspective. Like that's the most nonsensical way ever to bus a teammate. I find it more likely to be some kind of poorly executed bus attempt. I cannot see any way for it to be coming from a town-brain. | ||
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On December 05 2012 16:24 Hapahauli wrote: Show nested quote + On December 05 2012 15:45 Adam4167 wrote: On December 05 2012 15:37 Hapahauli wrote: On December 05 2012 15:35 Adam4167 wrote: On December 05 2012 12:15 Hapahauli wrote: On December 05 2012 12:10 Adam4167 wrote: Yeah I cant wrap my head around it, either way. We either have a town Z-boson that wants to vig someone who is playing to their town meta, or a scum Z-boson in some lopsided bus attempt, where he calls s&b town but still wants him dead. I don't think he's calling SnB town - he's just saying that SnB is showing some parts of his town meta. That's a lot less severe than you're suggesting IMO, and I lean to Z-Bo town in this case. Scum saying that one of their scum-buddies is showing town traits and then wanting him dead makes even less sense. I missed this post earlier. With all the crap that was going on in the thread at the time (Toad v Keirathi), (Syllo v Sandro) ect, his number one scum read is someone 'showing parts of their town meta' and this warrants a vigi shot on them? I think that's insane. When I see someone showing parts of their town meta, I assume that person is most probably town and look somewhere else! Or you question them further to consolidate that town read. Its the logical thing to do - you've done it dozens of times in your mafia career (I assume). You do not make this person your number 1 scum suspect and want to blow their head off. Yeah but again, while it doesn't make much sense from a town perspective, it makes even less sense from a scum perspective. Like that's the most nonsensical way ever to bus a teammate. I find it more likely to be some kind of poorly executed bus attempt. I cannot see any way for it to be coming from a town-brain. I went back and tried to read his quote, and I'm reading his comment as far less severe than you are. The relevant line: Show nested quote + Strong town read on marv? Really? If marv hadn't told be beforehand he wasn't gonna take this game seriously, I would have gone with scum read on marv. He spends a ton of time arguing with cave fellow for no reason at all, the guy is and has been a lost cause since he began posting. He's not nearly as active and as involved as his other games. He's not willing to run for party. I've reread his filter and there is nooooo way you can get a town read on marv that fast, with that kind of bad reasoning. Someone else had a town fast, with zero reasoning. Especially SNB, who's played with him a ton of times. SnB's filter though seems pretty much like his town filter from last game, in terms of low activity and post coutn, but I haven't played with him much. Marv, do you have any meta read on him? I think he's saying that SnB's activity and post-count line up with his town meta, and suggesting that his post-count/activity aren't alignment indicative. Then he is finding him scum for other reasons. It checks out to me as OK logic-wise. I'll admit I'm not considering Z-Bo as much as I should, namely because I'm pretty convinced that risk is scum. However given Syllo's 450 damage claim, there's probably another mafia running about, and it could very well be Z-Bo/austin. Austin's recent "I'm thinking about lynching the 3rd party" post is kinda sketchy. His other reasons (his only other reason) was "S&B gave a town read on marv". If someone lurking then giving a town read on marv was grounds for a vig shot in his mind, he should have been up in BioSC's ass as well, as he did the exact same thing. I'm not adverse to seeing risk.nuke die, either. Hes given us close to zero this game, just throwing out the occasional barb on people like Oats. I've been pretty well ignoring him since day 1, as i'm about as likely to get his alignment right as flipping a coin anyway. | ||
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And yeah, the night actions from the scum this game have been all over the place, has literally made my role useless, so bravo guys. | ||
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