<Blazinghand> then I'll be like, a few minutes later "because it was LARGE. LARGE."
<Blazinghand> and then you can be like "wow way to brick that shot, blazinghand. I thought you had good jokes"
<Blazinghand> maybe i'll use a different joke than a penis joke
<MrZentor> XD
<MrZentor> Best mason buddy ever
<Blazinghand> in any case, I was thinking about mason tactics
<Blazinghand> it might be easiest if we just never attack each other ever
<MrZentor> I think I might just say something about 4 or 7
<MrZentor> Traditionally medieval stonemasons served a seven-year apprenticeship. A similar system still operates today. A modern apprenticeship lasts four years.
<Blazinghand> ok
<Blazinghand> whatever works for you
<MrZentor> I think that brick might be a little too
<MrZentor> Well
<MrZentor> Obvious
<MrZentor> I might just be being
<MrZentor> PARANOID
<Blazinghand> so I guess you might want to use a different crumb
<Blazinghand> nobody ever finds my crumbs because I post like
<Blazinghand> 40 posts per day
<MrZentor> Yeah..
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<MrZentor> do you believe marv's claim
<Blazinghand> um
<Blazinghand> not really but you can't lynch a claimed blue D1
<MrZentor> there isn't much time
<MrZentor> :/
<MrZentor> Who should we lynch
<Blazinghand> well I still kinda like DP. But what are your thoughts
<Blazinghand> my reads this game haven't been as good as I'd like
<MrZentor> Yeah, I usually can find somebody I'm sure is mafia
<MrZentor> but this game is weird
<MrZentor> I'd like to kill DoYouHas
<Blazinghand> ah what's the case on him
<MrZentor> But I don't think I can convince the whole town in an hour
<Blazinghand> hm
<MrZentor> Welll
<Blazinghand> so I mean i'd be okay with a DYH lynch
<Blazinghand> he's one of my null reads
<MrZentor> His posts are funny
<MrZentor> All mechanical
<MrZentor> and uptight
<MrZentor> read them
<Blazinghand> so my current reads are shiapi town, VE town, Zealos semi town, austinmcc town, DP scum, marv scum
<Blazinghand> everyone else null
<MrZentor> I thought debears was town
<MrZentor> and I think DP is too
<Blazinghand> hm
<Blazinghand> okay so we could go for DYH
<Blazinghand> i mean we don't need to convince tha tmany people
<Blazinghand> almost no-one has more than like 2 votes
<MrZentor> Yeah it's weird
<Blazinghand> have you posted a DYH case? I could be like "yeah I agree" and vote for him
<MrZentor> idk
<MrZentor> meh DP might be scum
<Blazinghand> well like i'm not actually as sure on DP as I claim to be in the thread
<Blazinghand> the meta case isn't great
<Blazinghand> I always put a strong face forwards though because how people react tells us about them
<Blazinghand> I personally think he's a solid lynch
<Blazinghand> but DYH could also be a good lynch
<Blazinghand> I'll read his filter now
<Blazinghand> no matter what, you and I will never be lynched btw
<Blazinghand> because we are masons
<MrZentor> Yeah
<Blazinghand> so don't worry about that
<MrZentor> Unless we go afk
<MrZentor> or something
<Blazinghand> lol
<Blazinghand> yeah
<MrZentor> DP just seems a little too loose and care free to be mafia
<MrZentor> meh
<MrZentor> But how he jumps on you for bizarre behavior
<MrZentor> attacking me
<MrZentor> then saying im not scum
<MrZentor> When that's just bizarre behavior and not scum behavior
<Blazinghand> DP and I do have a bit of a history of butting heads
<Blazinghand> so I didn't notice that in particular
<Blazinghand> but that's a good point
<MrZentor> I'm going to get Marv to post his pm
<Blazinghand> oh he uh
<Blazinghand> can't do that
<MrZentor> look what I posted
<MrZentor> But it says he can
<Blazinghand> ah
<MrZentor> yeah idk
<Blazinghand> so
<Blazinghand> a DYH switch is possible
<MrZentor> yeah I'm gonna go for it
<MrZentor> Also you're whole
<Blazinghand> hm
<MrZentor> Zentor I like where you're goint but I need some more explanation
<MrZentor> thing
<MrZentor> was so faked I nearly burst out laughing
<MrZentor> XD
<Blazinghand> LOL
<Blazinghand> i'm really bad at faking interactions
<Blazinghand> I'm actually like probably one of the worst scum players
<MrZentor> I'm having doubts about DYH after his last post
<MrZentor> :/
<Blazinghand> LOL
<Blazinghand> don't
<Blazinghand> those posts are meaningles
<Blazinghand> scum always makes that post
<Blazinghand> so does town
<MrZentor> I know, but it always scares me.
<Blazinghand> everyone makes that post
<Blazinghand> that post is a null tell
<Blazinghand> if he was scum or town he makes that post
<MrZentor> I always feel sorry for them though
<MrZentor> :/
<Blazinghand> your case against him still stands
<Blazinghand> if he's town he played in a way to get lynched
<Blazinghand> and if he's scum, we shall celebrate in 3 minutes
<Blazinghand> SWAP
<Blazinghand> SWAP NOW TO DP
<MrZentor> NOOOOOOOOO
<MrZentor> too late
<MrZentor> ARGH
<Blazinghand> lol I didn't even have time to boldface
<MrZentor> yeah
<MrZentor> I just copy pasted yours as soon as I could
<MrZentor> It would be hilarious if the mods mod-killed all the people who posted after hopeless's post
<Blazinghand> LOL
<Blazinghand> oh man i'm excited
<MrZentor> lol
<MrZentor> I'm pretty sure we killed DYH
<Blazinghand> no I don't think we did
<Blazinghand> I think by 1 vote
<Blazinghand> we killed DP
<MrZentor> Really?
<MrZentor> lol look at DP
<MrZentor> his post
<Blazinghand> LOL
<MrZentor> XD
<Blazinghand> oh man
<Blazinghand> that anger
<MrZentor> full of rage
<Blazinghand> also like
<MrZentor> I bet he's vanilla town
<MrZentor> lol
<Blazinghand> yeah honestly
<Blazinghand> he's gonna get modkilled for that
<Blazinghand> since he's the one getting lynched
<Blazinghand> and he's posting after the lynch deadline
<MrZentor> yeah he died
<MrZentor> vanilla
<MrZentor> townie
<MrZentor> Assuming the two claims are genuine
<MrZentor> The mafia knows our cop
<MrZentor> and our vigil
<MrZentor> Greatttt
<Blazinghand> so yeah mafia is gonna RB DYH
<Blazinghand> and shoot Marv
<Blazinghand> like 100%
<Blazinghand> there's probably one other blue out there
<Blazinghand> maybe a JK or a town RB
<Blazinghand> hey uh
<Blazinghand> what's your role name
<Blazinghand> btw
<Blazinghand> i'm Yoda
<MrZentor> What
<Blazinghand> debears is talking about like
<Blazinghand> role name / fluff stuff
<MrZentor> Mace windu
<Blazinghand> ok what's the wording of your PM
<Blazinghand> one sec
<MrZentor> idk who that is
<Blazinghand> he's a jedy master
<Blazinghand> like yoda
<MrZentor> You are Mace Windu. A member of the Jedi Council. You know your fellow councilmember, BlazingHand, is town. You may communicate with them outside the thread. (mason)
<Blazinghand> You are Yoda. A member of the Jedi Council. You know your fellow councilmember, MrZentor, is town. You may communicate with them outside the thread. (mason)
<Blazinghand> yeah
<Blazinghand> I dunno what debears is thinking
<Blazinghand> I think the "jedi council" fluff is just for us though
<Blazinghand> so we shouldn't claim our names or fluff because scum might figure out we're blue from it
<Blazinghand> oh wait
<Blazinghand> ok no DP's role
<Blazinghand> was star wars related
<Blazinghand> so he has the same fluff as us
<Blazinghand> ok yeah marv has different fluff
<Blazinghand> but the wording of his pm is the same
<Blazinghand> I don't think we can on fluff grounds say marv is scum
<MrZentor> So we have starwars fluff
<MrZentor> and he has mythbusters fluff
<Blazinghand> yeah there could easily be two types of fluff in this game
<Blazinghand> I asked DYH to post his fluff
<Blazinghand> that could give us more info
<MrZentor> Wait
<MrZentor> DP had battlestart galactica fluff
<Blazinghand> oh
<Blazinghand> lol
<Blazinghand> I am not like
<MrZentor> just googled it lol
<Blazinghand> gotcha
<Blazinghand> so it's all from different shows
<Blazinghand> so the fluff theme is "shows and movies"
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<Blazinghand> in case i'm shot tonight, i'm leaving a crumb for you
<Blazinghand> it'll be based on the word "trust"
<Blazinghand> it'll let you confirm a mason claim if I flip
<MrZentor> k
<MrZentor> if they're planning on shooting you
<MrZentor> we should claim before they do
<Blazinghand> huh
<Blazinghand> no no
<Blazinghand> then SCUM will shoot us
<Blazinghand> if DYH shoot sme so be it
<MrZentor> no
<Blazinghand> we'll still have 2 confirmed townies tomorrow
<MrZentor> I'd rather scum waste a shot
<MrZentor> than our vigi
<Blazinghand> hm
<Blazinghand> so you want to claim?
<Blazinghand> there's an hour left
<Blazinghand> want to do so now?
<Blazinghand> you there?
<MrZentor> OkaWait
<MrZentor> Say something like
<Blazinghand> I'm just gonna post my role PM and say "I'm mason with MRZ"
<Blazinghand> you do the same thign at the same time
<Blazinghand> and we'll be good
<MrZentor> No wait
<MrZentor> You saved DYH
<Blazinghand> yeah
<Blazinghand> I mentioned that
<MrZentor> When you could have easily let him die
<Blazinghand> in thread
<Blazinghand> are you reading the thread?
<MrZentor> Yes
<MrZentor> Say directly to doyouhas
<MrZentor> That there is no reason for scum to do that
<Blazinghand> ok
<MrZentor> except if they were saving their scum buddy
<MrZentor> so basically you're townie in DYH's eyes
<MrZentor> if he is vigil
<Blazinghand> so uh you want me to not claim or to claim?
<MrZentor> yet
<MrZentor> at least
<MrZentor> Dont claim
<Blazinghand> ok
<MrZentor> If that doesn't work we'll claim
<Blazinghand> he might not even be around
<Blazinghand> i'll ask if he's around
<Blazinghand> because if he's not around honestly it doesn't matter
<MrZentor> wait if somebody dies during the night
<MrZentor> their action still goes through right
<Blazinghand> yes
<MrZentor> I can't tell if Keir is being stupid
<MrZentor> or if he's mafia trying to get you killed
<Blazinghand> yeah...
<Blazinghand> hard to tell
<Blazinghand> i'm leaning scummy on him atm but honestly this isn't enough to make a read.
<MrZentor> I always assume that if people are replaced
<MrZentor> they're town
<Blazinghand> well, most hosts replace all people, town OR scum
<Blazinghand> in Mario Mini, Djoref replaced in for thrawn and he was scum
<MrZentor> yeah but I think somebody who is scum
<MrZentor> would want to stay in the game
<MrZentor> than a normal townie
<MrZentor> It might be because I enjoy being scum way more than I should
<Blazinghand> that's not good logic imo
<Blazinghand> people often replace because like shit happens in their lives
<MrZentor> I like how everybody posts after the mod says to not post
<MrZentor> XD
<Blazinghand> everyone was waiting until exactly 0800 forum time to drop their huge posts
<MrZentor> Yeah
<MrZentor> This is the second time though
<MrZentor>
<Blazinghand> lol
<Blazinghand> man these have been some aciton packed deadlines
<MrZentor> yeah
<Blazinghand> okay, so the question I guess is do we want to claim tomorrow
<MrZentor> It reminds me of Death factory mafia
<MrZentor> man
<MrZentor> that was intense
<Blazinghand> I specced that game
<Blazinghand> it was sweet
<MrZentor> Probably
<Blazinghand> I guess the real thing is to see if there's a wagon on me or not
<Blazinghand> like, if not, there's no real reason to claim
<MrZentor> "MrZentor seems Lol"
<MrZentor> What is that supposed to me
<MrZentor> an
<Blazinghand> I have no idea
<Blazinghand> I think you actually look very town for the hard defense of me
<Blazinghand> scum doesn't do hard defenses of anyone, really
<MrZentor> I look more town than I usually do..
<Blazinghand> not in the middle of the night
<MrZentor> I want to see who died
<MrZentor>
<MrZentor> WOOT
<MrZentor> VE THE GOON
<Blazinghand> NICE
<MrZentor> "Mafia Goon. You may carry an NK. You win with scum. Your team consists of yeah right, that would be embarrassing."
<MrZentor> lol
<Blazinghand> lol
<Blazinghand> nice
<Blazinghand> so I don't like keirathi's attack of me a huge amount, but I'm not sure whether that makes him scum or not
<MrZentor> yeahh
<MrZentor> I also don't know how to take his
<MrZentor> nice shot response
<Blazinghand> meh, it's fluff
<Blazinghand> as town you'd say that to congratulate DYH
<Blazinghand> as scum you'd do the same
<MrZentor> So we have 3 confirmed townies
<MrZentor> out of 4 people
<MrZentor> 12
<MrZentor> people
<Blazinghand> right
<Blazinghand> which means in the remaining 9 the 3 scum lurk
<Blazinghand> what's your read on debears?
<MrZentor> Hmm
<MrZentor> that was Ve's first vote
<MrZentor> so idk
<Blazinghand> VE busses all the time
<Blazinghand> I guess we should see how HE interacts with VE
<Blazinghand> rather than vice versa
<MrZentor> But still
<MrZentor> the first vote?
<MrZentor> idk
<Blazinghand> the first vote makes even more sense than a later vote
<Blazinghand> because you usually move away from the first vote
<Blazinghand> at some point
<MrZentor> Let me see
<MrZentor> ##Vote: dabears
<MrZentor> ##Vote: Xatalos
<MrZentor> ##Unvote ##Vote: Zealos
<MrZentor> ##Unvote ##Vote: DarthPunk
<MrZentor> ##Unvote: DarthPunk ##Vote: DoYouHas
<Blazinghand> yeah see given how much he moved his vote around
<MrZentor> Yeah
<MrZentor> Wow
<Blazinghand> the fact that his first vote was for debears
<Blazinghand> doesn't really mean anything imo
<MrZentor> I'm getting really sick of Keirathi
<Blazinghand> he might just be scum pushing scum agenda
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<Blazinghand> yo i'm back
<Blazinghand> catching up with thread now
<MrZentor> idk...
<Blazinghand> yo
<Blazinghand> so what are your reads right now
<Blazinghand> I'm iffy on Shiao and I still think Keirathi is a solid lynch
<Blazinghand> though he looks a bit better now
<MrZentor> Dandelion/Sandroba----- WBG ShiaoPi Austinmcc LazerMonkey
<Blazinghand> as your scumreads?
<MrZentor> The people I don't think are town
<MrZentor> basically
<MrZentor> I'm not as sure about Keirathi as I was
<Blazinghand> I see
<Blazinghand> let's talk about WBG
<MrZentor> What do you think of gim?
<MrZentor> c:
<MrZentor> him
<Blazinghand> I don't like him, but all I have is a general feel that he's scummy
<Blazinghand> I feel like a town WBG is more useful than this WBG
<MrZentor> Yeah I've never been able to read WBG
<MrZentor> I'm hoping he gets shot during the next night phase
<Blazinghand> looking at his filter he seems confrontational and aggressive but not as helpful, not as willing to draw out other players into conversations
<Blazinghand> I'm not sure WBG is actually contributing to the town atmosphere.
<Blazinghand> yo man
<Blazinghand> you there?
<Blazinghand> I'm voting WBG
<Blazinghand> dude
<MrZentor> Hmm
<Blazinghand> check my case
<Blazinghand> let me know what you think
<Blazinghand> i just posted a vote as well
<MrZentor> Hmm
<MrZentor> It was good in that you showed he wasn't promoting a good town environment
<Blazinghand> I see no reason for WBG to do this
<Blazinghand> other than that he's scum
<MrZentor> You should have said something like
<Blazinghand> I can add it in now
<MrZentor> WBG should know better than to do this
<MrZentor> or somehting
<Blazinghand> " I expect more out of WBG. "
<Blazinghand> I have that
<Blazinghand> I also have "Oh yeah and he clearly didn't read my post about ShiaoPi and Keirathi, he just wanted to slap it down and lay on the insults. This isn't how you play mafia, this isn't how you hunt scum."
<Blazinghand> in any case it's not super WBG meta specific
<Blazinghand> it's just pretty clear he's pushing a scum agenda
<MrZentor> Yeah
<MrZentor> I kind of want to vote for him
<Blazinghand> if you want to vote him wait
<Blazinghand> don't do it just yet
<MrZentor> But that might really suspicious..
<Blazinghand> well
<Blazinghand> it's fine if you're the next vote
<Blazinghand> actually, you should write up some addons to my case
<Blazinghand> and post them and vote
<Blazinghand> it's fine if we vote together
<Blazinghand> it'll make our mason claim stronger
<MrZentor> I might write "IM SPONTANEOUS ##Vote:WBG"
<Blazinghand> if we're working together in the thread
<Blazinghand> no don't make your vote seem weak
<Blazinghand> that's what scum does when they work together
<MrZentor> lol
<MrZentor> that's what's fun though
<MrZentor> XD
<MrZentor> It's going to appear pretty weak anyways..
<Blazinghand> you should post the stuff you said above about like "WBG should know better"
<MrZentor> I'll vote in half an hour
<Blazinghand> and say "I agree with blazinghand"
<Blazinghand> and then be like "in fact, WBG has seemed 'off' to me all game! and now I understand why."
<Blazinghand> don't be afraid to vote too close to me time-wise
<Blazinghand> and the reason I say this is that this WBG wagon will be hard
<Blazinghand> people don't like lynching vets
<MrZentor> Everybody's going to hate me for being fickle
<MrZentor> There
<Blazinghand> :D
<Blazinghand> someone else posted
<Blazinghand> I think we've expressed what everyone else was already thinking
<Blazinghand> but was afraid to say
<MrZentor> Being a mason is awesome
<Blazinghand> yeah it's been really great to have you to bounce reads off of
<Blazinghand> and knowing that like we're both unlynchable
<Blazinghand> since if it comes down to it we can claim
<MrZentor> I love how you made a case against me
<MrZentor> That's absolutely hilarious XD
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<MrZentor> Why aren't you voting for WBG
<MrZentor> Nvm..
<MrZentor> WHAT
<MrZentor> THEY CANT BE MASONS
<MrZentor> THEY ARE SO SCUM
<MrZentor> RIGHT
<Blazinghand> yes
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<Blazinghand> well I think we just won.
<MrZentor> Yeah
<MrZentor> Well
<MrZentor> I hope so
<Blazinghand> yup
<MrZentor> I hope the game doesn't live up to its name
<MrZentor> Because I'd hate for you to be scum
<MrZentor> or something stupid like that
<MrZentor> But after Keir's last post
<MrZentor> I'm more certain they're scum
<Blazinghand> i highly doubt this game is bastard modded
<Blazinghand> and I doubt even more than there are 6 blues
<MrZentor> argh
<MrZentor> GIMME THE FLIP
<Blazinghand> lol
<MrZentor> There are always at least 3 posts after the
<MrZentor> please refrain from posting
<MrZentor> post
<Blazinghand> lol
<MrZentor> Ugh
<MrZentor> 6 posts
<MrZentor> and no night posts
<Blazinghand> i keep on refreshing
<Blazinghand> lol
<MrZentor> ARGH\
<MrZentor> MROE POPCORN
<MrZentor> okay
<MrZentor> 4 masons
<MrZentor> wtf
<Blazinghand> welp
<Blazinghand> at least we won't waste a mislynch on Kei
<MrZentor> we suck
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