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On February 12 2013 08:24 kitaman27 wrote: Show nested quote + On February 12 2013 04:30 jcarlsoniv wrote: Sigh... /in No idea how pick your power shit works, but I guess I need to find out eventually <3 If I get assigned you, you're getting Madame Pomfrey LOL | ||
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Time to put on my creative hat. Spoiler alert: + Show Spoiler + I don't have a creative hat. | ||
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On February 13 2013 03:16 Keirathi wrote: Man I thought of an amazing role that I can't use because it only makes sense for one alignment It's k, greymist also stifled some of my creativity | ||
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If someone could refresh my memory, does mayor have anything special other than choosing the lynch? | ||
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On February 13 2013 09:17 Crossfire99 wrote: Wait why am I being voted for? RNG's a bitch | ||
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On February 13 2013 09:18 marvellosity wrote: 1 kinda sounds hilarious. Are we against hilarious? Hilarious tends to be not so helpful for town, unfortunately =/ Otherwise, #YOLOHILARIOSWAG | ||
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On February 13 2013 09:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Show nested quote + On February 13 2013 09:21 Blazinghand wrote: On February 13 2013 09:20 Dandel Ion wrote: On February 13 2013 09:18 marvellosity wrote: 1 kinda sounds hilarious. Are we against hilarious? I FIND IT KIND OF UNFAIR THAT THE VOTING FOR THE SECRET VOTING IS NOT SECRET TOO WHAT'S THE POINT OF THAT maybe voting for the instant majority lynch should be instant majority Maybe voting for the mayor should be decided on by the mayor. I nominate myself for mayor to decide if there should be a mayor. | ||
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Also, if peeps didn't notice, there is a voting thread for this game. | ||
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And yeah, instant voting obv best choice right now. | ||
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On February 13 2013 11:27 Keirathi wrote: Show nested quote + On February 13 2013 11:18 jcarlsoniv wrote: I don't really see any benefit in our role receiver knowing that we made their role. And yeah, instant voting obv best choice right now. There's probably not any benefit, but I doubt there's much downside either. The only thing it really does is say "Hey I'm watching you. You better use my role how I intended it to be used." That's true I suppose. The role I created was kinda just for fun. I thought it was fairly clever. | ||
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We will need to make sure we have a good target and then execute together, I assume? | ||
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On February 13 2013 12:08 Oatsmaster wrote: It means that whenever a player gets the majority of the votes in a game, that player is Instantly lynched I was more concerned about the logistics/execution. I understood what it meant lol. | ||
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On February 13 2013 12:29 Blazinghand wrote: Nice try moving goalposts mr oats unless you have something more to say I think my case stands for itself I don't really...see a case? His reasoning isn't necessarily bad, it just differs from yours. | ||
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On February 13 2013 12:47 Keirathi wrote: Show nested quote + On February 13 2013 12:40 Blazinghand wrote: On February 13 2013 12:33 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 13 2013 12:29 Blazinghand wrote: Nice try moving goalposts mr oats unless you have something more to say I think my case stands for itself I don't really...see a case? His reasoning isn't necessarily bad, it just differs from yours. Look, think about your thought process as a townie when you evaluated the three options. You probably rejected the Secret Ballot out of hand barring some weird circumstances because it takes information away from town, then you thought about Mayoral and Instant Majority. Thinking about the strengths and drawbacks of both, you'd note that Mayoral elections produce a different kind of discussion than lynch votes (not necessarily better or worse) and the actual vote itself tends to be about who says they'll use the lynch on whom and who you have a town-read on. Instant Majority sounds dangerous but actually buts the scum under a lot of pressure assuming nobody gets dumb and jumps the gun on the hammer. But what you don't think about, and I'm certain nobody town aligned thinks about as a main reason not to use mayoral, is the possibility of making a scum player mayor. It's a risk of mayoral, but it's not the reason you wouldn't run it-- after all, if what the mayor does is pick who gets lynched, picking a scum player to be mayor isn't a huge risk. We're not giving powers to the scumteam, and in fact, having a scum under that spotlight could be very helpful to town. From a townie perspective, which any townie will have, you probably want instant majority because it's simple and lets you lynch someone. You want your vote to do something and you want to put pressure on the scum. You don't reject mayoral because a scum might get elected-- this might actually be the best outcome short of a townie get elected and lynching scum. You reject mayoral because instant majority is better and gives you more power to hunt scum. Oats came into this giving reasoning that comes from a mindset not of townie scumhunting, but of scum shirking responsibility and blending in, and thinking fearfully. I thought this was pretty obvious, guys While I see where you are coming from, I did actually think about electing scum as a mayor being a big downside to Mayoral vs Instant. For one, it is immensely difficult to tell the difference between a town mayor lynching another townie, and a scum mayor lynching a townie. And for two, its much harder to hold people accountable for their votes in an 'everything-goes-wrong' mayoral election. Mayoral elections tend to turn into "Follow the vet" more than "elect the towniest person in the game". This. Just because YOU (BH) may not have been thinking about electing a scum mayor, it certainly crossed my mind. I've never played a game where having a mayor was a choice, only ones where we were forced to pick a mayor. In a couple of them, scum was elected, and it has turned out badly for town. So yes, that is something I thought about. I don't get how "adding another angle of thought to something" = "HOLY SHIT THIS GUY IS SCUM" | ||
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On February 13 2013 13:43 Blazinghand wrote: Oatsmaster, most people who have played with me extensively are aware I'm very active and aggressive as both scum and town, and am highly prone to shenanigans as any alignment. I won't comment as to my own guilt. Experience tells me I will do too good a job of prosecuting myself, and convince you that I am guilty - or else you will decide that my prosecution was too half-hearted, and that I am scum. I will remark only this in my defense - that I have never been mislynched as town, and get lynched all the time as scum. Is that a challenge? ##vote BlazingHand | ||
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On February 13 2013 13:51 Keirathi wrote: Show nested quote + On February 13 2013 13:48 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 13 2013 13:43 Blazinghand wrote: Oatsmaster, most people who have played with me extensively are aware I'm very active and aggressive as both scum and town, and am highly prone to shenanigans as any alignment. I won't comment as to my own guilt. Experience tells me I will do too good a job of prosecuting myself, and convince you that I am guilty - or else you will decide that my prosecution was too half-hearted, and that I am scum. I will remark only this in my defense - that I have never been mislynched as town, and get lynched all the time as scum. Is that a challenge? ##vote BlazingHand Teehee, I like you already :D (Just don't remind me about Dwarf Fortress.) No clue what you're talking about... *cough* | ||
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On February 14 2013 01:07 Keirathi wrote: Show nested quote + On February 14 2013 01:00 Hassybaby wrote: Good afternoon gentlemen, I hope you're all well I've been reading everything while at my internship, and this comment caught my eye: On February 14 2013 00:06 Dandel Ion wrote: And no, the first job of a townie is to establish his own innocence. As you should know. Justify this, because that's the last thing that a townie should be worried about imo I agree with Dandel. Having amazing reads is good and all, but the reality is that most of us mere mortals are wrong as often (and sometimes even MORE often) than we are right. Proving that you are town is way more beneficial to town as a whole than any individual day's reads. And see, to me, that's a bit odd. Dandelion expresses how important it is that townies establish town cred (which I personally somewhat disagree that that's not necessarily #1, but that's a whole different discussion) and yet he has done nothing at all in my mind to try to establish his own townieness. If anything, his behavior thus far has led me the other way. | ||
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On February 14 2013 03:43 Dandel Ion wrote: Show nested quote + On February 14 2013 03:16 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 14 2013 01:07 Keirathi wrote: On February 14 2013 01:00 Hassybaby wrote: Good afternoon gentlemen, I hope you're all well I've been reading everything while at my internship, and this comment caught my eye: On February 14 2013 00:06 Dandel Ion wrote: And no, the first job of a townie is to establish his own innocence. As you should know. Justify this, because that's the last thing that a townie should be worried about imo I agree with Dandel. Having amazing reads is good and all, but the reality is that most of us mere mortals are wrong as often (and sometimes even MORE often) than we are right. Proving that you are town is way more beneficial to town as a whole than any individual day's reads. And see, to me, that's a bit odd. Dandelion expresses how important it is that townies establish town cred (which I personally somewhat disagree that that's not necessarily #1, but that's a whole different discussion) and yet he has done nothing at all in my mind to try to establish his own townieness. If anything, his behavior thus far has led me the other way. I did not say I did. Has anybody filled your personal little criteria of "establishing townieness" yet? Cuz I don't think so. Not at all. Some people are appearing townier in my mind, but as far as I'm concerned, you're all scum until the day I die. I just find it interesting that for someone who is parading around the fact that town members should try to establish townieness first and foremost, you sure ain't doing any of that. Do as I say, not as I do, I suppose... Also, I would like to point out that since Blazinhand challenged me and I voted him, and Dandelion picked up the assault on Oats, BH has all but fallen off the face of the planet. | ||
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On February 14 2013 05:37 Dandel Ion wrote: Show nested quote + On February 14 2013 05:30 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 14 2013 03:43 Dandel Ion wrote: On February 14 2013 03:16 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 14 2013 01:07 Keirathi wrote: On February 14 2013 01:00 Hassybaby wrote: Good afternoon gentlemen, I hope you're all well I've been reading everything while at my internship, and this comment caught my eye: On February 14 2013 00:06 Dandel Ion wrote: And no, the first job of a townie is to establish his own innocence. As you should know. Justify this, because that's the last thing that a townie should be worried about imo I agree with Dandel. Having amazing reads is good and all, but the reality is that most of us mere mortals are wrong as often (and sometimes even MORE often) than we are right. Proving that you are town is way more beneficial to town as a whole than any individual day's reads. And see, to me, that's a bit odd. Dandelion expresses how important it is that townies establish town cred (which I personally somewhat disagree that that's not necessarily #1, but that's a whole different discussion) and yet he has done nothing at all in my mind to try to establish his own townieness. If anything, his behavior thus far has led me the other way. I did not say I did. Has anybody filled your personal little criteria of "establishing townieness" yet? Cuz I don't think so. Not at all. Some people are appearing townier in my mind, but as far as I'm concerned, you're all scum until the day I die. I just find it interesting that for someone who is parading around the fact that town members should try to establish townieness first and foremost, you sure ain't doing any of that. Do as I say, not as I do, I suppose... Also, I would like to point out that since Blazinhand challenged me and I voted him, and Dandelion picked up the assault on Oats, BH has all but fallen off the face of the planet. What is the point of that then? I shall impart a secret to you: It's nigh impossible to do so at such an early date either way. I must say, this does seem to me to be a seizing of an opportunity for you, more than anything else. Had you actually wanted to make a point, this would not have been the way to go about it. You said yourself that nobody did so yet. So to me, you using this as an opportunity to pile distasteful things onto me, it does not please me. You're a big boy, I'm sure you'll get over it. | ||
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I've had a very stressful ~20 hours. I've been following along, but haven't had the mental capacity to post. I'll be back in a few hours, and when I return, I will be ready to help you guys kill some scum. | ||
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Can anyone give me a few questions to ponder to kickstart my brain? | ||
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The first time I read through while keeping up with you guys, I was getting a weird vibe from iamp. This was only confirmed further looking back through. Iamp, you seem rather concerned with how people perceive you in this game. + Show Spoiler + On February 15 2013 06:29 iamperfection wrote: Show nested quote + On February 15 2013 06:25 austinmcc wrote: On February 15 2013 06:22 Keirathi wrote: Off the top of my head, I can only give the you the best answer I've got - I don't know, actually. @austin: How does that compare to what a town iamp, specifically, would do? The only specific thing I remember about scum iamp is that he's more than willing to vote early. I have not refreshed my mind by reading any past games, although I remember him as scum in GSL Open III. Maybe you should try harder then. I'm very easy to read However u think your case makes it more likely that your town since scum no better than to come after me. On February 15 2013 06:31 iamperfection wrote: What are your thoughts on me Marv? On February 15 2013 06:45 iamperfection wrote: Keir am I town or scum go. On February 15 2013 06:50 iamperfection wrote: Show nested quote + On February 15 2013 06:47 Keirathi wrote: On February 15 2013 06:45 iamperfection wrote: Keir am I town or scum go. On February 15 2013 06:32 Keirathi wrote: Personally, I think ATM that he is kind of fitting into his scum persona atm. He just doesn't have that "I don't give a fuck" attitude in most of his posts. Im not sure I want to lynch him yet though, because there are hints of it, and I just want to see more before I come to a definite conclusion. On February 15 2013 06:37 Keirathi wrote: On February 15 2013 06:33 marvellosity wrote: On February 15 2013 06:32 Keirathi wrote: On February 15 2013 06:25 austinmcc wrote: On February 15 2013 06:22 Keirathi wrote: Off the top of my head, I can only give the you the best answer I've got - I don't know, actually. @austin: How does that compare to what a town iamp, specifically, would do? The only specific thing I remember about scum iamp is that he's more than willing to vote early. I have not refreshed my mind by reading any past games, although I remember him as scum in GSL Open III. Well I'll share, because I think he has a very interesting playstyle. Town iamp is quite capable of doing all those things you outlined. He says whatever pops in his head, randomly calls people our, and hardly ever is a major voice in getting someone lynched. He's a follower not a leader, but he does have unique viewpoints and opinions. The major way to tell the difference between scum iamp and town iamp, though, is in his attitude. Town iamp just doesn't give a fuck. He will literally say anything that pops into his head, doesn't care how it makes him look. He doesn't apologize for it, or take things back, or hold his tongue. Scum iamp on the other hand is CAREFUL. Maybe that's not the best word for it, but I think it describes it perfectly. He tries not to make sure he pisses anyone off, he isn't as free and easy with his thoughts, and he's even less aggressive than normal. Personally, I think ATM that he is kind of fitting into his scum persona atm. He just doesn't have that "I don't give a fuck" attitude in most of his posts. Im not sure I want to lynch him yet though, because there are hints of it, and I just want to see more before I come to a definite conclusion. My inclinations are opposite. Interesting. Like I said, some of his early posts (particularly the ones to me and you, two the people who know him best), and his posts in the last hour or so fit with what I expect to see from town iamp. A lot of his stuff in the middle just doesn't have that "zing" though. It was a yes or no question not maybe or possibly On February 15 2013 06:53 iamperfection wrote: And maybe you should be asking me questions to figure out my alignment cross. Just a thought Why is it so important for people to reveal specifically what they think of you? As for hassy, I can really only go off of other people's previous analysis and his contribution thus far. I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to lynching him as he has done nothing for town, but he probably isn't my first choice. That said: ##unvote ##vote iamperfection | ||
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Marvel, you make it a pain in the ass to recap on shit. I have to read your posts 3 or 4 times to make sure I know what you're saying. | ||
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On February 15 2013 07:12 Blazinghand wrote: yeah the sylencia lynch is also bad. you're all bad What's your thoughts right now BH (other than everyone is bad). Still want gonzaw dead? | ||
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On February 15 2013 08:56 austinmcc wrote: I DON'T REALLY LIKE THIS VOTE BUT THERE YOU GUYS GO. I didn't see that keirathi was one of the extra votes despite being on oats already, so I double counted in thinking 9. Nor do I, but is rather lynch than not | ||
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On February 15 2013 09:11 kitaman27 wrote: Show nested quote + On February 15 2013 09:09 Crossfire99 wrote: On February 15 2013 09:08 austinmcc wrote: Wait, I'm sorry. Did we have someone create a power that kills the first voter, and then not see fit to note what was going to happen here? Brilliant point. His role creator has a lot to explain why he didn't stop this. Well I really gtg so bye. I was thinking the same thing. Wouldn't the role creator bring that up as town if he knew BH was going to get killed too? I think his role creator should claim and if he doesn't claim we assume he is scum. Maybe his role creator thought it was possible that BH was scum. Notice that my first vote was on BH. Also, there was 5 minutes of panic voting, and I'm currently away from my computer. Sorry it fucked us, but don't you fucking blame me for sheeting the fuck out of BH. I was all for iamperfection, but preferred a lynch over a no lynch. | ||
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I'll read all your bitching and whining about the role I created later. | ||
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Will be back at some point tomorrow. | ||
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On February 15 2013 10:51 Dandel Ion wrote: Show nested quote + On February 15 2013 10:48 jcarlsoniv wrote: Yes, I created oats' role. No it was not meant to be encrypted. Will be back at some point tomorrow. Explain the post you made right after the nightpost, then. There isn't a whole lot to explain. + Show Spoiler + On February 15 2013 09:14 jcarlsoniv wrote: Show nested quote + On February 15 2013 09:11 kitaman27 wrote: On February 15 2013 09:09 Crossfire99 wrote: On February 15 2013 09:08 austinmcc wrote: Wait, I'm sorry. Did we have someone create a power that kills the first voter, and then not see fit to note what was going to happen here? Brilliant point. His role creator has a lot to explain why he didn't stop this. Well I really gtg so bye. I was thinking the same thing. Wouldn't the role creator bring that up as town if he knew BH was going to get killed too? I think his role creator should claim and if he doesn't claim we assume he is scum. Maybe his role creator thought it was possible that BH was scum. Notice that my first vote was on BH. Also, there was 5 minutes of panic voting, and I'm currently away from my computer. Sorry it fucked us, but don't you fucking blame me for sheeting the fuck out of BH. I was all for iamperfection, but preferred a lynch over a no lynch. I switch from 3rd person to 1st person between the 1st and 2nd lines. I didn't intend nor realize it could be taken as cryptic. It was just the way I worded it. | ||
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On February 15 2013 22:38 Dandel Ion wrote: Show nested quote + On February 15 2013 22:36 jcarlsoniv wrote: Morning. On February 15 2013 10:51 Dandel Ion wrote: On February 15 2013 10:48 jcarlsoniv wrote: Yes, I created oats' role. No it was not meant to be encrypted. Will be back at some point tomorrow. Explain the post you made right after the nightpost, then. There isn't a whole lot to explain. + Show Spoiler + On February 15 2013 09:14 jcarlsoniv wrote: Show nested quote + On February 15 2013 09:11 kitaman27 wrote: On February 15 2013 09:09 Crossfire99 wrote: On February 15 2013 09:08 austinmcc wrote: Wait, I'm sorry. Did we have someone create a power that kills the first voter, and then not see fit to note what was going to happen here? Brilliant point. His role creator has a lot to explain why he didn't stop this. Well I really gtg so bye. I was thinking the same thing. Wouldn't the role creator bring that up as town if he knew BH was going to get killed too? I think his role creator should claim and if he doesn't claim we assume he is scum. Maybe his role creator thought it was possible that BH was scum. Notice that my first vote was on BH. Also, there was 5 minutes of panic voting, and I'm currently away from my computer. Sorry it fucked us, but don't you fucking blame me for sheeting the fuck out of BH. I was all for iamperfection, but preferred a lynch over a no lynch. I switch from 3rd person to 1st person between the 1st and 2nd lines. I didn't intend nor realize it could be taken as cryptic. It was just the way I worded it. That's not the one I meant. Well, I've only made a few posts since the night post, and this was the only one of any significance. So please, be direct with me, I don't have the patience to run around a bush right now. | ||
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On February 15 2013 23:02 iamperfection wrote: jcarl what do you think of marv? I think his posting is a pain in the ass to read, (although I enjoy reading a nice Game of Thrones novel in the middle of a mafia game), but nothing so far has really raised any flags for me. Why, what do YOU think of him? And dandelion, for that matter. | ||
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On February 16 2013 00:33 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On February 16 2013 00:24 iamperfection wrote: i want jcarl to explain this from before On February 15 2013 09:14 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 15 2013 09:11 kitaman27 wrote: On February 15 2013 09:09 Crossfire99 wrote: On February 15 2013 09:08 austinmcc wrote: Wait, I'm sorry. Did we have someone create a power that kills the first voter, and then not see fit to note what was going to happen here? Brilliant point. His role creator has a lot to explain why he didn't stop this. Well I really gtg so bye. I was thinking the same thing. Wouldn't the role creator bring that up as town if he knew BH was going to get killed too? I think his role creator should claim and if he doesn't claim we assume he is scum. Maybe his role creator thought it was possible that BH was scum. Notice that my first vote was on BH. Also, there was 5 minutes of panic voting, and I'm currently away from my computer. Sorry it fucked us, but don't you fucking blame me for sheeting the fuck out of BH. I was all for iamperfection, but preferred a lynch over a no lynch. this post as i already pointed out if he thought bh was scum why was he trying to kill me. This gentleman is also interested in this particular discourse. Early in the day, I was leaning scum on BH. Note that I placed my vote on him. As the day went on, these feelings dissipated slightly, enough so that I wasn't going to push the case (nor did I have the time to do so). I switched my vote to iamperfection. It was coming time to consolidate votes (votes were scattered everywhere). At the time, iamperfection was the best candidate in my eyes. Everything looked fine, I left to go across campus to be with my friends. I check the thread on my phone and notice that BH has started a panic switch onto oatsmaster. I have seen panic switches in the past, and often (in my experience) they are led by scum day 1 because town has no clue about anyone. Ok, cool. I made oats' role, so I know that if he's lynched, BH will also go down. Since my previous feeling of BH were not gone, this wasn't the end of the world in my eyes. Had I been actually at my computer when BH snowballed the panic switch, I may have reacted differently. However, I cannot change the RL circumstances. Clearly I was wrong about BH, and for that I apologize. | ||
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On February 16 2013 02:05 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On February 16 2013 02:00 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 16 2013 00:33 marvellosity wrote: On February 16 2013 00:24 iamperfection wrote: i want jcarl to explain this from before On February 15 2013 09:14 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 15 2013 09:11 kitaman27 wrote: On February 15 2013 09:09 Crossfire99 wrote: On February 15 2013 09:08 austinmcc wrote: Wait, I'm sorry. Did we have someone create a power that kills the first voter, and then not see fit to note what was going to happen here? Brilliant point. His role creator has a lot to explain why he didn't stop this. Well I really gtg so bye. I was thinking the same thing. Wouldn't the role creator bring that up as town if he knew BH was going to get killed too? I think his role creator should claim and if he doesn't claim we assume he is scum. Maybe his role creator thought it was possible that BH was scum. Notice that my first vote was on BH. Also, there was 5 minutes of panic voting, and I'm currently away from my computer. Sorry it fucked us, but don't you fucking blame me for sheeting the fuck out of BH. I was all for iamperfection, but preferred a lynch over a no lynch. this post as i already pointed out if he thought bh was scum why was he trying to kill me. This gentleman is also interested in this particular discourse. Early in the day, I was leaning scum on BH. Note that I placed my vote on him. As the day went on, these feelings dissipated slightly, enough so that I wasn't going to push the case (nor did I have the time to do so). I switched my vote to iamperfection. It was coming time to consolidate votes (votes were scattered everywhere). At the time, iamperfection was the best candidate in my eyes. Everything looked fine, I left to go across campus to be with my friends. I check the thread on my phone and notice that BH has started a panic switch onto oatsmaster. I have seen panic switches in the past, and often (in my experience) they are led by scum day 1 because town has no clue about anyone. Ok, cool. I made oats' role, so I know that if he's lynched, BH will also go down. Since my previous feeling of BH were not gone, this wasn't the end of the world in my eyes. Had I been actually at my computer when BH snowballed the panic switch, I may have reacted differently. However, I cannot change the RL circumstances. Clearly I was wrong about BH, and for that I apologize. This is some understandable discourse. Stut-utt-utt-ers also provides insight with his comment about the lack of necessity of claiming you created the role. Would you care to play along with my request from earlier, gentleman? Filtering sylencia? Surely, when I get the chance. Currently at my internship. | ||
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Still catching up a bit, but after first initial read through: I liked austin's case on kitaman. It's a shame poor austin died and can't follow up with it. Out of all the players in this game, kita is probably the one I know the most. And this game certainly does NOT feel like town kita play (I'm lookin at you, Madame Pomfrey). [For the record, I hate reads based off of meta, but this just feels so far outside of kita's town play that I felt it's worth mentioning.] Syl's filter is really bad, and I would not be opposed to a lynch on him today. As much as I hate to admit it, I'm feeling like Dandelion is more than likely town this game. Thus I wouldn't completely mind electing him as CiC. If you're looking for a military adviser, I would not be opposed to nominating myself for that position. I realize I fucked up with letting BH fall with Oats, but if you guys were in my position of power, with the feeling that BH could be scum, then how would you have handled it? However, after it was apparent that things had gone south, I made no hesitation to claim that it was, indeed, my fault. If you guys can find it in your hearts to trust me as the adviser, I will, once again, make no hesitation to disclose the information that I have to you, the town. | ||
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On February 17 2013 12:32 Dandel Ion wrote: Now stop apologizing for killing the towniest player in the game and tell me how much you want to sheep my sick case on gonzaw. He was clearly NOT the towniest player in the game. And your case...bleh, idk, gotta reread some things. Reserving my vote(s) for now. We in a shitty spot, not sure what direction we need to take. | ||
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On February 17 2013 12:44 Dandel Ion wrote: He totally was. I don't just sheep anybody. Also before your hair goes gray my sick case is here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397553¤tpage=57#1137 How you feel about marv/iamp right now? | ||
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I am going to be unavailable for the majority of today (yayyyyyy gymnastics meet ~_~), but I'll be doing my best to keep up with the thread. At this point, my vote is going on either gonzaw or Sylencia (leaning syl at the moment). | ||
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On February 18 2013 02:18 Dandel Ion wrote: So your kill would happen with the flip. That is... ... Convenient. I am not saying iamp is a bad target, he is currently my guess for scum#4. But you basically ask us to lynch somebody else than you, and close our eyes to pray and hope you hit red. I do not feel willing to do that. Well, regardless of whether we lynch gonzaw or not, iamperfection is poisoned. Gonzaw would have to give the antidote. Iamperfection is set to die from poison at the lynch (something I don't really oppose), so his life is in gonzaw's hands before the lynch, whether or not gonzaw dies at the same time. | ||
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On February 18 2013 02:26 kitaman27 wrote: Show nested quote + On February 18 2013 02:25 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 18 2013 02:18 Dandel Ion wrote: So your kill would happen with the flip. That is... ... Convenient. I am not saying iamp is a bad target, he is currently my guess for scum#4. But you basically ask us to lynch somebody else than you, and close our eyes to pray and hope you hit red. I do not feel willing to do that. Well, regardless of whether we lynch gonzaw or not, iamperfection is poisoned. Gonzaw would have to give the antidote. Iamperfection is set to die from poison at the lynch (something I don't really oppose), so his life is in gonzaw's hands before the lynch, whether or not gonzaw dies at the same time. Since you're around could you respond to my earlier question? Also, Do you think gonzaw should give iamp the andidate? Btw, now would be a great time to vote for syl Can you repeat the question? Don't have to time to go back and look (shouldn't be on my phone right now :3) | ||
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On February 18 2013 02:30 kitaman27 wrote: Show nested quote + On February 18 2013 01:55 kitaman27 wrote: Quick question for you soniv if you're around: if iamp was the best candidate in your eyes on day one and you weren't able to convince town about him being scum, why didn't you try to manipulate the lynch by asking town to unvote and revote so that both iamp and oats would be killed? Sutters, have you come to any conclusions about the difference between syl in this game and hist past games as town? You said you would be commenting on it. Does anyone else find it strange that the person that gonzaw claims to have poisoned hasn't claimed yet? Either the person that was poisoned doesn't want town to know about it or gonzaw hasn't actually used his ability and is lying to us. Cheese, you said a couple times that you were 40 pages behind in the thread. Why is that? Could you do me a favor and comment on every player left in the game? k thx. I don't quite understand the question... But when I left my computer that night, oats wasn't being lynched. It wasn't until I looked on my phone (10-15 minutes later and only a few minutes before the deadline) that the BH panic switch happened. Notice "panic switch". I had thought iamperfection was going to be lynched when I left the computer. | ||
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Looks like Dandelion being elected to CiC. If someone else wants to drop an elect vote on me to be runner up, that would be boss. ##vote sylencia ##elect jcarlsoniv | ||
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On February 18 2013 08:32 Dandel Ion wrote: Show nested quote + On February 18 2013 08:27 jcarlsoniv wrote: If gonzaw flips town, it's on your head dandelion. This does not sound very townie ya know. "I'm lynching him but not because I think he's scum and if you're wrong it's your fault" I'm sure I'm not wrong, but still. Don't really care how it sounds to you. On February 18 2013 08:44 kitaman27 wrote: soniv/xfire/vivax/iamp, please respond to the argument that I am making. There is only 15 min left... I don't really dispute your logic, but the same argument can be made for gonzaw, and you're fighting awfully hard for him not to be lynched. This is why the "which case do I trust more" actually applies. | ||
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On February 18 2013 09:13 Dandel Ion wrote: nah I thought it would be AWESOME shit, but they're both pretty... bad. maybe yours will be super secret and awesome I think 24 hrs is prolly the better choice | ||
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On February 18 2013 09:34 Dandel Ion wrote: I got my own choice as i thought. And it is FAR better, yo. Care to share, oh captain, my captain? | ||
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On February 19 2013 01:05 Vivax wrote: You seem quite disinterested in what I asked carlson. Too busy gaining elos. The two posts that I talked about syl: + Show Spoiler + On February 16 2013 02:31 jcarlsoniv wrote: LOL wow that filter... Yeah I could see sylencia being scum. Also, what ever happened to cheesecake? On February 17 2013 12:25 jcarlsoniv wrote: Wazzup, finally back from a day of bangin bitches and acquiring elos. Still catching up a bit, but after first initial read through: I liked austin's case on kitaman. It's a shame poor austin died and can't follow up with it. Out of all the players in this game, kita is probably the one I know the most. And this game certainly does NOT feel like town kita play (I'm lookin at you, Madame Pomfrey). [For the record, I hate reads based off of meta, but this just feels so far outside of kita's town play that I felt it's worth mentioning.] Syl's filter is really bad, and I would not be opposed to a lynch on him today. As much as I hate to admit it, I'm feeling like Dandelion is more than likely town this game. Thus I wouldn't completely mind electing him as CiC. If you're looking for a military adviser, I would not be opposed to nominating myself for that position. I realize I fucked up with letting BH fall with Oats, but if you guys were in my position of power, with the feeling that BH could be scum, then how would you have handled it? However, after it was apparent that things had gone south, I made no hesitation to claim that it was, indeed, my fault. If you guys can find it in your hearts to trust me as the adviser, I will, once again, make no hesitation to disclose the information that I have to you, the town. I wasn't ever 100% sure on Syl. I did end up dropping my vote on him, but then I changed my mind. I was by no means ignoring kitaman. I responded to him. The case he was making could be said the same of gonzaw, and of the two case leaders (kitaman and dandelion), kitaman was not the one I had any ounce of trust in. | ||
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On February 19 2013 01:50 Vivax wrote: Why are you neglecting that you thought syl was scum carlson? Cause I don't see any other reason for you saying you weren't sure on him. You said you would lynch him over gonzaw. Show nested quote + On February 18 2013 00:07 jcarlsoniv wrote: I rarely place my vote in the first half of the day (hence why I have not done so yet). I am going to be unavailable for the majority of today (yayyyyyy gymnastics meet ~_~), but I'll be doing my best to keep up with the thread. At this point, my vote is going on either gonzaw or Sylencia (leaning syl at the moment). Why are you trying to convince me that I should have voted Syl? MIGHT I FUCKING REMIND YOU THAT HE FLIPPED TOWN?! Yeah, no thanks to you. Do you want me to apologize for changing my mind off of someone who ended up being town? Doesn't make much sense. @Dandelion: But...but I'm plat 3... | ||
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On February 19 2013 02:16 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On February 19 2013 02:01 marvellosity wrote: jcarlson casually claiming he created BH's role straight away doesn't make sense if he's mafia either. this i'm pretty damn sure of. Could you point out how it's alignment indicative please? Because I never felt the need to pretend I didn't create the role? I fucked up, I recognized it, and I came forward about it. There wasn't anything sayin "BH is dead cuz of jcarlsoniv". Why would I come forward without any reason to? | ||
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When I left my computer that night, it appeared that iamperfection was going to be lynched. It wasn't until I checked my phone 10-15 minutes later that I had noticed BH's panic switch was in full swing. It was only a few minutes before deadline, so there wasn't anything I could do from my phone with the amount of time available. | ||
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On February 19 2013 02:41 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On February 15 2013 07:16 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 15 2013 07:12 Blazinghand wrote: yeah the sylencia lynch is also bad. you're all bad What's your thoughts right now BH (other than everyone is bad). Still want gonzaw dead? As I said before, I preferred a lynch on oats over a no-lynch D1. And I also had feelings that BH could be scum. Having no time to actually react, that's the choice I made. I'm getting really sick of repeating myself, so I think I'm just gonna start ignoring you now. | ||
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On February 19 2013 07:46 gonzaw wrote: Show nested quote + On February 19 2013 07:43 Dandel Ion wrote: buddying with marv. lol. You can't be serious. You can't be. Dude just see how all chitty-chatty you were when both of you got elected. You didn't even flinch when he got elected, yet started talking to him like he was your best buddy (about the plans and shit). You had won the game with the syl lynch plus my poison kill, it makes sense you guys would just troll in-thread with the elected roles and deciding the "plans" just to rub it in our faces. I...what? | ||
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Why the sudden change of heart on Gonzaw? You were pushing endlessly for his lynch day 2, but then switched to sylencia, and all of a sudden, over night, you decided he's town. What changed? | ||
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I remember why I was ignoring vivax. | ||
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On February 20 2013 00:20 Dandel Ion wrote: Show nested quote + On February 20 2013 00:19 jcarlsoniv wrote: Apparently trying to gain information is scummy now. I remember why I was ignoring vivax. Ignore him for all I care but don't ignore me. If you're town you want to give me power unimaginable. Yet you are not giving me power unimaginable. Does not compute. I DON'T KNOW HOW. I'd join the glorious evolution if I had the capacity. | ||
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On February 20 2013 00:27 Dandel Ion wrote: Everyone has the capacity. That is the beauty of my equalitarian regime. Join me, and we will carpet-bomb the subhumans. On February 20 2013 00:29 Dandel Ion wrote: Inconceivably many. Work with "as much as possible." Am I working in the right direction? | ||
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On February 20 2013 00:35 Dandel Ion wrote: Who cares about math. 1 2 4 8 shit like that was what I was thinking of. So...2^x | ||
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On February 20 2013 01:39 Dandel Ion wrote: lol it still doesn't matter. and now it went 1 -> 2 -> 1 and I really can't be arsed thinking of the f(x) for that. good lord... Dandelion, this hurts my brain. I can't math right now. @Vivax: xfire has a >50% of being scum | ||
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On February 20 2013 01:42 Dandel Ion wrote: Show nested quote + On February 20 2013 01:40 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 20 2013 01:39 Dandel Ion wrote: lol it still doesn't matter. and now it went 1 -> 2 -> 1 and I really can't be arsed thinking of the f(x) for that. good lord... Dandelion, this hurts my brain. I can't math right now. @Vivax: xfire has a >50% of being scum You don't need to math. Then why are you graphing shit?! Also, I like that xfire, kitaman, and gonzaw have completely disappeared. | ||
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On February 20 2013 01:46 Vivax wrote: 50 % or not, are you going to lynch him or not? Lol I've still got 30+ hours bro. What's your rush. | ||
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Unfortunately, I didn't have enough time at my disposal the first 2 days because of things that kept coming up, so I couldn't actually be of any use. Sry guys. I blame my role creator. | ||
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On February 20 2013 03:26 Keirathi wrote: Show nested quote + On February 20 2013 03:20 jcarlsoniv wrote: My role was fucking terrible. I had to wait until N3 to be able to do anything at all. Was prepared to shoot kita tonight though. Unfortunately, I didn't have enough time at my disposal the first 2 days because of things that kept coming up, so I couldn't actually be of any use. Sry guys. I blame my role creator. My intention was for you to be able to vig night 2. Then it needed to be worded differently. I asked grey, morning of D1 I only had 25 energy. Believe me, if I had a vig shot N2 it would've gone I kita's skull. | ||
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On February 20 2013 03:32 Keirathi wrote: Show nested quote + On February 20 2013 03:28 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 20 2013 03:26 Keirathi wrote: On February 20 2013 03:20 jcarlsoniv wrote: My role was fucking terrible. I had to wait until N3 to be able to do anything at all. Was prepared to shoot kita tonight though. Unfortunately, I didn't have enough time at my disposal the first 2 days because of things that kept coming up, so I couldn't actually be of any use. Sry guys. I blame my role creator. My intention was for you to be able to vig night 2. Then it needed to be worded differently. I asked grey, morning of D1 I only had 25 energy. Believe me, if I had a vig shot N2 it would've gone I kita's skull. You started D1 with 25 energy. When n1 started, you should have had 50. When D2 started, you should have had 75. When n2 started, you should have had 100. At least that was the way I originally worded it, unless GreYMisT changed it. Welcome to Themed game Mafia! You are the Infestor! You start with 25 energy, and gain 25 energy per phase (with the daypost). Only got energy with the day post. Needless to say, it SUCKS not having a power in a game where everyone has ridiculous powers. | ||
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On February 20 2013 03:36 gonzaw wrote: Show nested quote + On February 20 2013 03:34 Vivax wrote: On February 20 2013 03:31 gonzaw wrote: I still hate you guys for shooting austin It was the plan of marv the mafia traitor ;_; I guess it was for the greater good though... Anyways, I'm such a pro scum player i convinced everybody I was town on 3v3 fuck yeah /sarcasm Not me, your reactions in the chat to my questions made me think you were pretty scummy lol. But couldn't tell you you're scum in your face, it gives you reason to act indignant and stop talking. I was "town" enough for you to mason me in the first place and Dandel to give me a "he's like confirmed town" read at the end of N3... ......you 2 were actually joking right? Please tell me you were This is why I asked Dandelion why he changed his mind on you (before I got sidetracked by class/his point grubbing). I knew either one of you was scum. Just couldn't pursue it =/ | ||
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On February 20 2013 03:39 Keirathi wrote: From Obs QT: Show nested quote + GreY wrote: So an interesting thing is that jcarlson, despite what he is saying in the thread, didn't make your role Oats From spreadsheet: jcarlson - Picking For (Oatsmaster) WHY YOU DECEIVE US GreY!? ...dafuq? I definitely made that role. I remember laughing to myself when Oats posted the Sepia picture of the Canada Justice Wagon | ||
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On February 20 2013 03:39 Keirathi wrote: Show nested quote + On February 20 2013 03:38 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 20 2013 03:32 Keirathi wrote: On February 20 2013 03:28 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 20 2013 03:26 Keirathi wrote: On February 20 2013 03:20 jcarlsoniv wrote: My role was fucking terrible. I had to wait until N3 to be able to do anything at all. Was prepared to shoot kita tonight though. Unfortunately, I didn't have enough time at my disposal the first 2 days because of things that kept coming up, so I couldn't actually be of any use. Sry guys. I blame my role creator. My intention was for you to be able to vig night 2. Then it needed to be worded differently. I asked grey, morning of D1 I only had 25 energy. Believe me, if I had a vig shot N2 it would've gone I kita's skull. You started D1 with 25 energy. When n1 started, you should have had 50. When D2 started, you should have had 75. When n2 started, you should have had 100. At least that was the way I originally worded it, unless GreYMisT changed it. Welcome to Themed game Mafia! You are the Infestor! You start with 25 energy, and gain 25 energy per phase (with the daypost). Only got energy with the day post. Needless to say, it SUCKS not having a power in a game where everyone has ridiculous powers. GreY didn't inform me of that change. My intention was for you to get 25 energy per day and night phase. Then I blame Grey for making me the only VT in a game of blues/power roles | ||
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On February 20 2013 03:50 gonzaw wrote: Show nested quote + On February 20 2013 03:38 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 20 2013 03:32 Keirathi wrote: On February 20 2013 03:28 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 20 2013 03:26 Keirathi wrote: On February 20 2013 03:20 jcarlsoniv wrote: My role was fucking terrible. I had to wait until N3 to be able to do anything at all. Was prepared to shoot kita tonight though. Unfortunately, I didn't have enough time at my disposal the first 2 days because of things that kept coming up, so I couldn't actually be of any use. Sry guys. I blame my role creator. My intention was for you to be able to vig night 2. Then it needed to be worded differently. I asked grey, morning of D1 I only had 25 energy. Believe me, if I had a vig shot N2 it would've gone I kita's skull. You started D1 with 25 energy. When n1 started, you should have had 50. When D2 started, you should have had 75. When n2 started, you should have had 100. At least that was the way I originally worded it, unless GreYMisT changed it. Welcome to Themed game Mafia! You are the Infestor! You start with 25 energy, and gain 25 energy per phase (with the daypost). Only got energy with the day post. Needless to say, it SUCKS not having a power in a game where everyone has ridiculous powers. Hey dude, I was a shitty delayed standard vig if it makes you feel any better ...you were mafia. So no, it does not make me feel better. You still had people to talk to and shit to do. I was a sitting duck with not enough time to do what I wanted. On February 20 2013 03:49 Vivax wrote: Gonzaw, I replaced in -_-. And anyway, that's a night action. GG scum anyway, who created Oats' role after all? I did. GreY just slowly going insane. | ||
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On February 20 2013 04:45 GreYMisT wrote: Show nested quote + On February 20 2013 03:39 Keirathi wrote: On February 20 2013 03:38 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 20 2013 03:32 Keirathi wrote: On February 20 2013 03:28 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 20 2013 03:26 Keirathi wrote: On February 20 2013 03:20 jcarlsoniv wrote: My role was fucking terrible. I had to wait until N3 to be able to do anything at all. Was prepared to shoot kita tonight though. Unfortunately, I didn't have enough time at my disposal the first 2 days because of things that kept coming up, so I couldn't actually be of any use. Sry guys. I blame my role creator. My intention was for you to be able to vig night 2. Then it needed to be worded differently. I asked grey, morning of D1 I only had 25 energy. Believe me, if I had a vig shot N2 it would've gone I kita's skull. You started D1 with 25 energy. When n1 started, you should have had 50. When D2 started, you should have had 75. When n2 started, you should have had 100. At least that was the way I originally worded it, unless GreYMisT changed it. Welcome to Themed game Mafia! You are the Infestor! You start with 25 energy, and gain 25 energy per phase (with the daypost). Only got energy with the day post. Needless to say, it SUCKS not having a power in a game where everyone has ridiculous powers. GreY didn't inform me of that change. My intention was for you to get 25 energy per day and night phase. The (with the daypost) part was my mistake. You gained 25 energy per phase as intended. Well that certainly would have been nice to know... | ||
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On February 20 2013 04:55 GreYMisT wrote: Show nested quote + On February 20 2013 04:53 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 20 2013 04:45 GreYMisT wrote: On February 20 2013 03:39 Keirathi wrote: On February 20 2013 03:38 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 20 2013 03:32 Keirathi wrote: On February 20 2013 03:28 jcarlsoniv wrote: On February 20 2013 03:26 Keirathi wrote: On February 20 2013 03:20 jcarlsoniv wrote: My role was fucking terrible. I had to wait until N3 to be able to do anything at all. Was prepared to shoot kita tonight though. Unfortunately, I didn't have enough time at my disposal the first 2 days because of things that kept coming up, so I couldn't actually be of any use. Sry guys. I blame my role creator. My intention was for you to be able to vig night 2. Then it needed to be worded differently. I asked grey, morning of D1 I only had 25 energy. Believe me, if I had a vig shot N2 it would've gone I kita's skull. You started D1 with 25 energy. When n1 started, you should have had 50. When D2 started, you should have had 75. When n2 started, you should have had 100. At least that was the way I originally worded it, unless GreYMisT changed it. Welcome to Themed game Mafia! You are the Infestor! You start with 25 energy, and gain 25 energy per phase (with the daypost). Only got energy with the day post. Needless to say, it SUCKS not having a power in a game where everyone has ridiculous powers. GreY didn't inform me of that change. My intention was for you to get 25 energy per day and night phase. The (with the daypost) part was my mistake. You gained 25 energy per phase as intended. Well that certainly would have been nice to know... It would have been nice to know that you were confused regarding the wording I wasn't confused. I understood the wording. It told me I get 25 energy at day post. I even PMd you when I got it "lasting to Day 4 is kinda a tall order" referring to the fact that, based on the wording, I would have to get to Day 4 to use my mind control. | ||
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