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+ Show Spoiler +bduddy pointed you out soft defending Daishi. You keep saying we'd learn nothing if he flipped? Well we might learn something about you. We'd certainly also learn something about his voting patterns and we might be able to figure out if the people he was bandwagoning were scum or not.
Who was this directed at?
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On March 09 2013 07:48 MLuneth wrote: My vote in NW stays the same because there has still been no coherent defence to tell me why NW is not scum.
I agree that other players are looking very suspicious too but I'm more confident that NW is scum than they are
I think the issue isn't so much NW's defence in that other cases are just better at this point in time, given NW's case was the first major one made and it was made very early. Its given a lot of light onto other people.
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Luneth, there has been so much evidence as to why you're wrong I'm not even going to link it. Just look at his filter. This refusal to change your vote even after it's been established that only lurkers are going to be staying on NW is looking tres scummy.
As for you Taco, I really wish you hadn't said that. Almost every mafia game I've been in where someone tried some sort of funny business or gambit to 'generate content' they turned out to be mafia. What's the point in generating content you yourself have no intention of following up on? All it does is create confusion and further useless content ---> scum MO.
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@MLunech, alright cool, good, so you pressure voted on Krafla
On March 09 2013 07:48 MLuneth wrote: My vote in NW stays the same because there has still been no coherent defence to tell me why NW is not scum.
I agree that other players are looking very suspicious too but I'm more confident that NW is scum than they are
as for your vote still on me, based on your wording, I assume you're not pressure voting, but actually confidently voting in me. well use you should use your confidence to town then, why do you even then want/need to confront a coherent defense?
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On March 09 2013 07:53 WaveofShadow wrote: Luneth, there has been so much evidence as to why you're wrong I'm not even going to link it. Just look at his filter. This refusal to change your vote even after it's been established that only lurkers are going to be staying on NW is looking tres scummy.
As for you Taco, I really wish you hadn't said that. Almost every mafia game I've been in where someone tried some sort of funny business or gambit to 'generate content' they turned out to be mafia. What's the point in generating content you yourself have no intention of following up on? All it does is create confusion and further useless content ---> scum MO.
The Wagon of Justice is still available.
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Vote Count
Krafla (0): WaveofShadow, TheRavensName, Arctic Daishi MLuneth (0): Rainbows, nobodywonder nobodywonder (4): MeatlessTaco, ChewOnStu, Rainbows, TheRavensName, Matriarch, MLuneth, Krafla, Arctic Daishi bduddy (0): nobodywonder, Frorgon Arctic Daishi (3): MLuneth. WaveofShadow, TheRavensName, bduddy ChewOnStu (1): Rainbows, MeatlessTaco, TheRavensName, nobodywonder TheRavensName (0): bduddy Frorgon (2): OmniEulogy, Rainbows, WaveofShadow, Arctic Daishi MeatlessTaco (2): OmniEulogy, Frorgon
No vote: nobodywonder
nobodywonder is currently set to be lynched. 2 hours until the deadline. Voting is mandatory. Please remember to bold your votes, and to unvote if you've previously voted for someone else.
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Nah I'll stick with my Rolls Royce of Justice.
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Hey you know who's flown under the radar since the thread picked up and wasn't one of my original lurkers? Rainbows. I liked his play early game and if he shows up he may be able to help us decide one way or another.
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On March 09 2013 07:51 MLuneth wrote:+ Show Spoiler +bduddy pointed you out soft defending Daishi. You keep saying we'd learn nothing if he flipped? Well we might learn something about you. We'd certainly also learn something about his voting patterns and we might be able to figure out if the people he was bandwagoning were scum or not. Who was this directed at? OmniEulogy, I assume. That's who I was referring to, at least.
I don't get why NW has to prove he's not scum to be unvoted - that would be great, obviously, but as has been said, there are other people that look a lot worse right now.
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On March 09 2013 07:51 MLuneth wrote:+ Show Spoiler +bduddy pointed you out soft defending Daishi. You keep saying we'd learn nothing if he flipped? Well we might learn something about you. We'd certainly also learn something about his voting patterns and we might be able to figure out if the people he was bandwagoning were scum or not. Who was this directed at? I believe it was said this was Omni.
Now the issue with this line of thinking is, Omni has not accused anyone Arctic has jumped on until the one against Frorgon, and quite a few people had similar reactions until it was read over about a dozen times.
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On March 09 2013 07:58 WaveofShadow wrote: Hey you know who's flown under the radar since the thread picked up and wasn't one of my original lurkers? Rainbows. I liked his play early game and if he shows up he may be able to help us decide one way or another. I was hoping he'd show up actually. I was getting nervous about that but theres so many other lurkers, I guess I forgot about forgetting about him. Actually makes me really uncomfortable that someone would be supremly aggressive and then not show up for a while.
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On March 09 2013 07:59 TheRavensName wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2013 07:51 MLuneth wrote:+ Show Spoiler +bduddy pointed you out soft defending Daishi. You keep saying we'd learn nothing if he flipped? Well we might learn something about you. We'd certainly also learn something about his voting patterns and we might be able to figure out if the people he was bandwagoning were scum or not. Who was this directed at? I believe it was said this was Omni. Now the issue with this line of thinking is, Omni has not accused anyone Arctic has jumped on until the one against Frorgon, and quite a few people had similar reactions until it was read over about a dozen times. At this point I wouldn't say that scum would necessarily work together to try to lynch a specific person. What they would definitely try to do is try to deflect voting of other scum, because at this point that's a lot more necessarily for them and, if done properly, less suspicious. I stand by what I said earlier that OE especially has been trying to do that with Arctic, and I don't see anything nobodywonder has done that makes him more suspicious.
What happens if the vote is a tie?
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Well it's too late now to worry about Rainbows' scumminess right now we can't afford to spread ourselves out any thinner. I personally hope he shows up to give further insight but if not we're really going to have a good look at him soon too.
We REALLY need vote consolidation from the following people: MeatlessTaco, Arctic Daishi, Rainbows, ChewonStu, Luneth, Matriarch, Krafla.
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On March 09 2013 08:04 bduddy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2013 07:59 TheRavensName wrote:On March 09 2013 07:51 MLuneth wrote:+ Show Spoiler +bduddy pointed you out soft defending Daishi. You keep saying we'd learn nothing if he flipped? Well we might learn something about you. We'd certainly also learn something about his voting patterns and we might be able to figure out if the people he was bandwagoning were scum or not. Who was this directed at? I believe it was said this was Omni. Now the issue with this line of thinking is, Omni has not accused anyone Arctic has jumped on until the one against Frorgon, and quite a few people had similar reactions until it was read over about a dozen times. At this point I wouldn't say that scum would necessarily work together to try to lynch a specific person. What they would definitely try to do is try to deflect voting of other scum, because at this point that's a lot more necessarily for them and, if done properly, less suspicious. I stand by what I said earlier that OE especially has been trying to do that with Arctic, and I don't see anything nobodywonder has done that makes him more suspicious. What happens if the vote is a tie?
If the vote is a tie the player who reached the highest amount first is lynched, in other words NW gets lynched if there is a tie.
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I am rereading cases now.
Going to be wishy washy either way, but I'd rather be correct
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On March 09 2013 08:04 bduddy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2013 07:59 TheRavensName wrote:On March 09 2013 07:51 MLuneth wrote:+ Show Spoiler +bduddy pointed you out soft defending Daishi. You keep saying we'd learn nothing if he flipped? Well we might learn something about you. We'd certainly also learn something about his voting patterns and we might be able to figure out if the people he was bandwagoning were scum or not. Who was this directed at? I believe it was said this was Omni. Now the issue with this line of thinking is, Omni has not accused anyone Arctic has jumped on until the one against Frorgon, and quite a few people had similar reactions until it was read over about a dozen times. At this point I wouldn't say that scum would necessarily work together to try to lynch a specific person. What they would definitely try to do is try to deflect voting of other scum, because at this point that's a lot more necessarily for them and, if done properly, less suspicious. I stand by what I said earlier that OE especially has been trying to do that with Arctic, and I don't see anything nobodywonder has done that makes him more suspicious. What happens if the vote is a tie? Says in the op the first person to get those votes wins.
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On March 09 2013 08:04 WaveofShadow wrote: Well it's too late now to worry about Rainbows' scumminess right now we can't afford to spread ourselves out any thinner. I personally hope he shows up to give further insight but if not we're really going to have a good look at him soon too.
We REALLY need vote consolidation from the following people: MeatlessTaco, Arctic Daishi, Rainbows, ChewonStu, Luneth, Matriarch, Krafla.
NW can vote to save his ass well.. tie on Arctic and I've already said I'll switch if I can't convince people to lynch Taco, but I've still got 2 hours to see if I can do it. As you yourself said, even his defense dabbles in scum MO. I don't understand how we aren't lynching this guy today.
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On March 09 2013 08:08 OmniEulogy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2013 08:04 WaveofShadow wrote: Well it's too late now to worry about Rainbows' scumminess right now we can't afford to spread ourselves out any thinner. I personally hope he shows up to give further insight but if not we're really going to have a good look at him soon too.
We REALLY need vote consolidation from the following people: MeatlessTaco, Arctic Daishi, Rainbows, ChewonStu, Luneth, Matriarch, Krafla. NW can vote to save his ass well.. tie on Arctic and I've already said I'll switch if I can't convince people to lynch Taco, but I've still got 2 hours to see if I can do it. As you yourself said, even his defense dabbles in scum MO. I don't understand how we aren't lynching this guy today. Because hes just dabbled in it as opposed to reeking of it.
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On March 09 2013 08:08 OmniEulogy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2013 08:04 WaveofShadow wrote: Well it's too late now to worry about Rainbows' scumminess right now we can't afford to spread ourselves out any thinner. I personally hope he shows up to give further insight but if not we're really going to have a good look at him soon too.
We REALLY need vote consolidation from the following people: MeatlessTaco, Arctic Daishi, Rainbows, ChewonStu, Luneth, Matriarch, Krafla. NW can vote to save his ass well.. tie on Arctic and I've already said I'll switch if I can't convince people to lynch Taco, but I've still got 2 hours to see if I can do it. As you yourself said, even his defense dabbles in scum MO. I don't understand how we aren't lynching this guy today. But one or two vote differences isn't going to cut it. If we don't have a +3 differences in vote between the first and second place then it's possible (though unlikely) for scum/3rd party to move last second and force a mislynch.
I'm not saying Taco looks super innocent, btw, but I think Daishi is a better vote. Plus after the flip we may be able to start making associations related to Taco.
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On March 09 2013 08:04 bduddy wrote: What happens if the vote is a tie? From OP:
In the event of a tie the person with the most votes first wins (or loses).
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