How much fun will this game be, Kita? Help me understand. An analogy would probably help a lot.
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How much fun will this game be, Kita? Help me understand. An analogy would probably help a lot. | ||
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My little heart can barely take it no more, but I reckon that I'll have to muster the courage to continue. For the sake of all y'all I'ma whup dem mafia varmints. | ||
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On March 10 2013 13:35 VisceraEyes wrote: While we're on the subject, I think personality speculation is going to be distracting. Just the facts ma'am. Howdy. I sho 'nuff approve of both the sentiment and the very genteel manner of addressing the ladies you have demonstrated. | ||
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On March 10 2013 13:36 cDgCorazon wrote: Alright fellas, I am your King. Corazon, King of Hearts. All of your hearts. Since I am king of your hearts, I can control your hearts and make them stop on my command. Of course, you can't actually live if your heart is stopped, so I suggest you listen to me. Here's what I do not want to see from anyone in this town(in no particular order): Lurking BS Confusing Posts Being Scum Lying Decrypted Messages Being Scum Disagreeing with me Being Scum If you manage to avoid doing any of these things, you can run around this town with your heart still beating. However, if you peasants dare to defy me, you shall meet a very swift...end. Stay out of my way and follow my orders and we won't have any problems here. No need to be uppity. | ||
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On March 10 2013 13:47 yamato77 wrote: ##Vote Crossfire99 What in tarnation!? That was a lickety split vote. | ||
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On March 10 2013 15:02 yamato77 wrote: I don't know, while I hate Crossfire, I hate that post from Ver even more. Decisions, decisions. Why are you fit to be tied? I ain't dun notin'. You're darn tootin', though, 'bout Ver. That is a cattywumpus post. I figure he got a 20% chance a playin' gainst his win condition, which sure seems suspect. | ||
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On March 10 2013 15:16 yamato77 wrote: You haven't done anything, precisely. You must be walkin' on a slant if you think you dun somethin' so far. | ||
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On March 10 2013 16:00 yamato77 wrote: In this thread, VE tries to imply that actively trying to impersonate other people doesn't make our play look different. Details RIGHT THE FUCK NOW. We got ourselves an ornery one right here. | ||
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On March 11 2013 03:01 HiroPro wrote: yo, unless one of them admits they were lying right now, we should be lynching between kurumi and bugs today. both of them have claimed chezinu - bugs's anagram is a an anagram for brown brotherhood. at the moment, i'm leaning towards kurumi. in particular notice what kurumi says after he has gotten his role (but before his alignment), "this sucks". kurumi is a player who likes to play around and troll frequently. it's very unlikely that he would be unhappy about receiving chezinu as a role. the logical conclusion is that kurumi is a faker. ##Vote Kurumi also to the people who don't understand why i would ask everyone to just flat out say who they are. this is in part because my personality dislikes shennanies like what's going on right now. it's not something that i care about personally much. Aight, I'mma lay dis down fo yo. Votin for non-alignment reasons be wack. Na mean? Role playin be dope and errbody should be crunk bout it. | ||
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On March 11 2013 05:14 HiroPro wrote: man what are you talking about. it's not about kurumi roleplaying. it's about the fact that he was lying about who he was. he has admitted that he was lying so it looks a little better than if he tried to go with what risk.nuke came up with. but there is a clear mafia motivation in trying to fake a hard-to-read personality like Chezinu. Just cause he be fakin jacks don't mean he scum. Role aint got nutin to do wit alignment. Judge 'im on if he bring dat bling (Chez brings da bling when he be from our hood and go off on dem scum). No bling, call da po-po, lock 'im in da joint, and give 'im dat needle. | ||
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On March 11 2013 01:33 Kurumi wrote: If a fish caught another fish using a hook, does the first fish turn into a man? Obviously, that fish got popped because he got snitched on. An' yo know how i like to get buck wild on snitches wit my shank. | ||
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On March 11 2013 23:41 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm sure it'll be a rootin tootin jiglle-off. Like it's going to be totally tubular. | ||
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On March 11 2013 15:55 Mocsta wrote: However, having gone through WBG filter (as best I could) I noticed he said this ~20min after the town annoucement of Kurumi. I didnt realise he was aware Kurumi was town, and still openly supported his death. I can't make any sense of this from a town perspective. Yam is dodgy too, but at least he has his "pro gf snipe" comment. Bugs does indeed have "nothing". With this context, and what prome/VE said before; I can agree to put Corazon on hold (for this cycle). ##Vote: WBG Like this stud makes a good point about the poser wbg. I'll pencil him in for the lynch. ##Vote: wherebugsgo So it was like totally bogus that Kurumi got shot, but I'm not sure it makes yamato a scumbug. He could just have made a hellacious decision. Stud prplhz makes a choice point here. On March 11 2013 21:07 prplhz wrote: yamato77 isn't scum because he's an anonymous dayvig who chose to shoot Kurumi over Foolishness/Ver/TakeYourPick. | ||
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On March 12 2013 00:01 Dandel Ion wrote: why have you not rectified your collossal mistake of unvoting yet? It's guaranteed scum. lynch it. Like your case is lame. | ||
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On March 12 2013 00:07 VisceraEyes wrote: Why do you feel like you get to tell me what to do? ##Vote: Dandel Ion So like are you trying to keep yourself to a gnarly amount of votes? If so, how many votes is gnarly? | ||
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On March 12 2013 00:11 marvellosity wrote: So you're just giving us a one-liner that you agree with someone else's case then, Crossfire? That'd be ill if that's all I did. I posted a few phat things I found, but I'm still looking and will post the gnarly things as I find them. | ||
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On March 12 2013 00:13 VisceraEyes wrote: Why are you asking me how many votes is sufficient? Worry about your own vote, and what you do with your own time. Take a chill pill. Like I was just curious. | ||
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On March 12 2013 08:41 supersoft wrote: new alternative to Crossfire: Dandel Ion that's true, but i was lazy and i miscalculated the time i'd need to find a proper target. 1 hour wasn't enough i guess... Did anything come of this? I can't find him following up on the dandel thought at all which is really weird especially if he thinks dandel is a better alternative to me. | ||
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On March 12 2013 11:20 iamperfection wrote: saying who you think is scum and why would probably be the best place to start...... No duh. But it could be useful to know whether people want me to spend 10-15 minutes analyzing someone to figure out their alignment rather than skim over the entire thread and just post cursory thoughts while catching up. I'm not the fastest analyzer. | ||
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On March 12 2013 11:20 VisceraEyes wrote: If you're serious about putting in effort, some thoughts on wherebugsgo vs Yamato would be a plus. Ok. I'll spend some time looking at that right now cause they seem like the only viable lynch targets so far. | ||
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On March 12 2013 02:02 yamato77 wrote: The delay for my role was built in. As for my Marv read... Hm. Gonna have to reread his filter closely. Super, I will say, is being especially useless and obviously lurky. Nothing has changed about Bugs. Not sold on Cross/Stutters, but the possibility exists there. Not good lynches. Sloosh needs more attention for being a useless pile of lurking shit, I definitely still want to lynch wbg cause he's done nothing but attack kurumi even when he knew he was modconfirmed town, plus he just trolled the thread when called out and doesn't even care about doing anything. I'm keeping my vote on wbg. | ||
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Vivax and Foolishness should be fixin' to get lynched cause they be no 'count varmints. I reckon too much been said 'bout them already, so I ain't gonna add anything to that. Someone that y'all should be hankerin' to lynch should be Cora. + Show Spoiler [Cora] + On March 11 2013 23:08 marvellosity wrote: Yes, of course. Whether explained away as a 'joke' or not, this feels forced. Then I don't like at all his attitude towards Oats: Sounds like Corazon agrees a lot with the case, so Oats is probably mafia. Kinda fine I guess. But... Kinda everything in here is a misrepresentation. To the first bolded bit - our attitude was not the same in any way. I said the case probably made valid points but I still thought Oats was town. As per the previous Corazon quoted, this isn't what's coming across at all, it reads like he really finds Oats scummy. His equating of what I said with what he said is just totally false. As you can see from the nested quote, I asked him how Oats' play differed from the last game we all just played together. Second bolded bit is him sidestepping the question entirely and saying it's not about meta. But he can't tell me WHY s&b's case has valid points, or HOW Oats' play is different this game. This is particularly interesting as most of Corazon's early thrust on yamato *was* meta based. Dichotomy... The bit in red Vivax picked up on as well. It seems to indicate a concern for how he appears, for how he is viewed by others. Who cares if something is a 'glaring scumtell' if it's what you think and want to do? Do you refuse to vote for someone because you're scared of how you're perceived? Not at all. Why is agreeing or using other people's arguments a scumtell? Stuff like this, there's more of it, is irrationally angry, and he keeps attacking Mocsta rather than any of the arguments. I'd really like to know where Corazon stands on yamato after the revelation of how his role mechanics supposedly work. On March 13 2013 01:57 marvellosity wrote: Acro your best point you hid in the spoiler! This from a player who I distinctly recall saying all meta cases are terrible in Duel mafia I'd completely forgotten this. Witness: This game, witness (spoilered for length) + Show Spoiler + On March 10 2013 14:02 cDgCorazon wrote: The position I'm talking about is when you basically accused me of having no scum reads 3 hours into Duel Mafia and basically told me that I needed to have 100% scum reads 3 hours into the game or I am scum. I know a general feeling of how you play. You're aggressive as town. You don't give a fuck if you die or not, as long as your top scumread dies with you: The fact that you have decided to back way down from posts like this and play more passive is a bit suspicious. However, I'm going to assume the personality of whoever you are is influencing your play right now. I'll take a look later to see what kind of Yamato (or whoever you are) is going to come into town. Meta! On March 10 2013 15:36 cDgCorazon wrote: Yamato's already playing way too far away from his town meta for me to be comfortable. Meta! On March 10 2013 16:41 cDgCorazon wrote: No, it's the fact that you are not playing as abrasive as your usual town meta is. So Yamato, let me get this straight: You called me out in Duel Mafia for not having scum reads AND You're calling me out now for having a scumread. Please bow down to your King and tell me what I am missing. Meta! Marvellosity, Dandel Ion, VisceraEyes, Promethelax, and Yamato77: These people sho 'nuff are fit as a fiddle and snug as a bug, and all y'all should be particular 'bout their health. If I do bite the bullet, hear tell a storm is coming. I'mma off to hit the hay now. | ||
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##NUKE: Foolishness I'll also vote for Vivax cause he's scum. ##Vote: Vivax | ||
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On March 13 2013 23:49 Vivax wrote: What an idiot if he's town. Could have lynched Foolish after knowing yam's flip for the case he shot the wrong dude. Also zero reasoning given for using the nuke on foolish I believe marv has said enough about foolish already. Foolish is also playing like he did in Parallel Mafia and not like some town hero which he apparently is known for (but I've never seen). But I really don't care what you say cause you're scum and it's why I'm voting for you. | ||
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On March 13 2013 23:53 supersoft wrote: I even put it in my signature... Sorry about that, but I don't normally read signatures lol. Also, how isn't he scum in your eyes? | ||
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On March 14 2013 00:19 Vivax wrote: This is fruity mafia risk. 2 Pages of filter, talks about irrelevant stuff. Attacks Acrofales on the assumption that yamato is town. Also yeah the shot on marv was fake. I announced I got a power today, just like Foolish and Crossfire did and marv knows it. Who said anything about me getting a power today? Scumslip. He and foolish both scum. | ||
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On March 14 2013 00:22 marvellosity wrote: um, if Vivax is scum and you're town, how would he know you got a power, if you did? how is that a scumslip? Foolish never claimed being given a nuke. How could vivax have known that either foolish or I got a nuke if we did? Neither of us said anything in thread, yet he instantly assumes that both of us were given the nukes to use. That means he is in secret communication with one of us because I know that I received the nuke last night to use. (He could have also been the one to give the nukes but why would he give the nuke to me who he would lynch today.) Yeah that requires an assumption that foolish got his nuke like I did, but I already think he's scum and I know I'm town (and not in secret communication with vivax). Whatever it's not a 100% scum claim that everyone can know. But knowing what I know, I know that foolish and vivax are scum together. It's the only thing that makes sense. That's not as 100% objective as I'd like as I now realize typing it out, but meh. I still think it's the most likely scenario. | ||
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On March 14 2013 01:19 marvellosity wrote: Crossfire why wouldn't you nuke Vivax? *sigh* If we lynch him, he dies. If I nuke him and it's real, he dies. What's the difference? | ||
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On March 14 2013 03:34 slOosh wrote: Sup dudes, caller here. Oh wat? The Plan Give various people NUKEs. Two reasons a) See how people use it. Do they treat it carefully? Do they trust it? Do they just shoot whatever? b) If multiple scum members received it, there will be information leak. They know that multiple NUKEs were given. Information pump yea? c) My last night post was designed in a way where it seemed like they had to fire the NUKEs or it blows up on themselves. Dunno how well this worked or not, but there is more information if people use it rather than if people don't. d) I have ANTI NUKE countermeasures so it doesn't matter if I hand them to scum - in fact it is better because we see true motives come out. e) (for him who knows) You town. I'm glad. I'm saying this all now because enough information has passed and we need time to properly look over it (I'm still doing it myself). p.s. Vivax please cut back on the spam. I understand where you are coming from, I really do, but it is disrupting what we are doing here. The way that marv is handling this NUKE business is one of the most sensible of the lot. Leave him alone for this day cycle please. Are the nukes real? If you have anti nuke countermeasures you probably want to use them on foolish's and vivax's nukes. Also, point c worked cause that's why I didn't wait to fire until another day. | ||
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On March 14 2013 03:40 slOosh wrote: If you honestly think I ruined it I apologize, but I think I brought about a wealth of useful information. I have ANTI NUKE countermeasures. Proper discussion of player behavior and actions and justification does not require me to explain further. Deciding who to lynch of course does, so I'll explain clearly at like, midday or something. Just tell us if they're real so we can let foolish die from my nuke or lynch him instead if they're fake like marv wants to do. | ||
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On March 14 2013 03:42 slOosh wrote: Ah mah gash so much information. Crossfire, explain clearly what you thought when you received your NUKE and the thought process leading up to deciding how to use it. I figured you were planning on killing me today with your post earlier, so I knew I had to use the nuke before you did something to me. Foolish was my top scum read, plus I saw that he nuked yamato who I believe is town. I also saw that people seemed to be just voting foolish because everyone knew he had to die, so I figured I would help everyone out by nuking scum. This will allow us to lynch another scum and have better discussion. | ||
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On March 14 2013 03:48 slOosh wrote: lol. Talk about the people who used the NUKEs and how they responded. I already said multiple times I'll explain, so you don't have to worry about voting stuff, and I don't see how knowing more helps anyone but scum in forming their plan. Also, How does this make sense? Sloosh if the nukes are real, why give them to scummy people like me, vivax, and foolish. Most likely it will be a waste, e.g. vivax and foolish nukes. Why not give them to top town reads and use them to kill scum? You obviously aren't afraid of bad decisions because you have countermeasures, so why not try to kill 3 scum by giving them to good townreads? | ||
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On March 14 2013 03:52 Acrofales wrote: If yamato is scum, then why would foolish have nuked him? It would be a monumentously stupid thing to do as scum. So if yamato is scum, foolishness isn't. It really is that simple. Pretty much, especially if they could have forced a mislynch today because they'd still have 3 kp tonight. | ||
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On March 14 2013 03:57 austinmcc wrote: Right, I'm trying to rule out the possibility that it was town, or compulsive, or whatever stupid non-scum explanations there are. If nobody comes out of the woodwork, it's most likely a scum politician, and it means vivax is more likely to be town. I hate that conclusion (and the thought of Vivax being alive and in thread for longer), and the whole bit where SOMEONE'S VOTE WAS STOLEN got lost in all the other stuff. Not necessarily true. WIFOM is always a possibility. | ||
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On March 14 2013 03:59 slOosh wrote: I'm glad I can read the thread. People - is this a scumslip or people who can't read? Dude it's like a minute after my post. He probably didn't refresh. | ||
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On March 14 2013 04:01 slOosh wrote: That makes absolutely no sense and you need to spend more time reading. There is an hour gap between the two posts, and you can't gain information by not refreshing. He assumed that Foolishness will be NUKED before it was posted that he would be NUKED. Sorry, I misread the number 2. Uh...yeah you're not reading either. He never assumed that at all. he's saying it makes no sense for foolish and yamato to be the same alignment because foolish nuked yamato. | ||
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On March 14 2013 04:08 marvellosity wrote: how about you don't tell me how to play ever again. deal? Until slOosh explains exactly what's going in with nukes, I don't see much point in engaging with him. He's made what is quite clearly an anti-town move in giving nukes to volatile, lurky, or suspicious players. If slOosh genuinely had KP to give out, why wasn't he giving it out to his strongest townreads? I know slOosh respects my judgement, why wouldn't he give me a KP to kill mafia with? This whole plan stinks, and his inability just to say "yes" to my clarification is very concerning indeed. Agreed. Sloosh you gotta answer this now. You obviously claimed everything and aren't afraid of the nukes, so just explain now. Seriously. On March 14 2013 03:52 Crossfire99 wrote: Sloosh if the nukes are real, why give them to scummy people like me, vivax, and foolish. Most likely it will be a waste, e.g. vivax and foolish nukes. Why not give them to top town reads and use them to kill scum? You obviously aren't afraid of bad decisions because you have countermeasures, so why not try to kill 3 scum by giving them to good townreads? | ||
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On March 14 2013 04:18 Crossfire99 wrote: Man, I really wish they were real, so foolish would die. I'm now also willing to lynch foolish. Assuming that sloosh actually had countermeasures lol, otherwise it would be terrible. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + Don't listen to supersoft. Ugh. Lynch foolish. I'm actually pissed right now. I know I played bad earlier, but seriously... I'm gonna attack part of foolish's "case" cause I don't have time to do the whole thing, but it doesn't really matter. I'll get my point across. Responses in the quote are blue. On March 14 2013 08:07 Foolishness wrote: Okay this really needs to be my last post for a while cause I have a research paper due tomorrow. I will try to explain everything here. To make it easier for the people who have trouble reading I have decided to keep the analysis in a simple Q&A format. Okay, it's definitely clear that yamato77 is mafia, but what of your other reads? I will talk about marvellosity in a bit. After the nuke incident I believe that Crossfire is mafia. His nuke against me was an incredibly rash thing to do, especially after people in the thread were saying to hold off on killing me one more day (the same people who include a mod-confirmed townie). It makes sense from a mafia perspective. I just nuked one of their teammates so they are screwed, since dodging a nuke is near-impossible. They see this and realize that I'm on the right track in figuring them out (say for example I'm correct about marvellosity) so they nuke me immediately to prevent me from causing further damage. I myself, as mafia in past games, have done this many times. Some person comes out in the thread and kills a teammate or posts a big analysis that's very bad for our team, I shoot them immediately to stop them from doing further damage. Also consider the fact that crossfire was in no danger of getting killed at the moment. If he was about to get lynched I can see sending out a nuke as a last ditch effort to survive or make something happen (hey I just kinda did it, though my motivation is way different). It was completely out of the blue, just as yamato's day vigi was completely out of the blue. Yeah you obviously aren't reading the thread where I explained I thought sloosh was going to kill me...+ Show Spoiler + On March 14 2013 03:47 Crossfire99 wrote: I figured you were planning on killing me today with your post earlier, so I knew I had to use the nuke before you did something to me. Foolish was my top scum read, plus I saw that he nuked yamato who I believe is town. I also saw that people seemed to be just voting foolish because everyone knew he had to die, so I figured I would help everyone out by nuking scum. This will allow us to lynch another scum and have better discussion. I analyzed this guy day 1 but didn't come up with anything conclusive. On one hand he hadn't done anything to exhibit being mafia, but nothing striking to say he was for sure town either. With his nuke shot we now know where his agenda is and what side of the town he's on. I brought up some of his posts before; I would like to reemphasize a few of them now to build the case stronger: He made this post after wbg flipped. I find this post incredibly unnatural and forced. He knew he needed to post something but wasn't sure what, so he says something incredibly generic that adds nothing of value that everyone already knew. It was just a fluff post. Townies don't make fluff posts. Watch out there, pot, it looks like you're calling the kettle black. + Show Spoiler + On March 11 2013 13:14 Foolishness wrote: And it is so on this brightest of white days that I stroll into Personality Town. I clutch the assignment paper in my pocket as I walk into the main parts of the town. The paper that was handed to me not moments ago from the gate guard Greymist. Though I had arrived late to the town, I had already knew exactly where I was proceeding to; a destination known, but not known for I had only just arrived and getting my bearings down would take some effort. But on the right side of the street I came across a wonderful grove; full of vibrant trees that radiated through the yard. I stopped for a moment to take in the scene. I was not the only one so moved by the scenery, as many people buzzed through their way through the many trees. Not a minute had passed before a fine gentleman approached the grove as well. Though I gave him no inclination to, he stood beside me and struck up conversation. "They are cherry pickers you see," he said, pointing at the people wandering in and out of the grove. "Cherry pickers?" I asked. "Yes," BloodyC0bbler replied. "But they only pick cherries. Ask them to pick from the apple trees, and you will be met with resistance." "That must make it difficult to accomplish anything." "Aye. You best be moving on. If you stare too long you too will succumb to the ripe taste of the cherry. And then we will have lost another soul." "But what about you?" I questioned him. "I am the shepherd of these people. It is my job to lead them down the path of the scumhunt; to steer them away from the cherry trees. They are my responsibility." Without another word I departed the poor man and made my way down the street. And I wondered about the shepherd as I walked. Surely his cause is noble, but is that all there is too it? For a few minutes I pondered this question as I walked, until I came across a man sitting on a bench. "Excuse me," I asked the man, "could you tell me where I can find the house of Vivax?" "Ahhh, the house of Vivax you say? Well I could not know where anything is in this town. You see I am blind, and I have not interest where anything is in this town during my stay," Ver replied. "Blind?!?!" I was shocked at this finding. "But how can you possibly hope to accomplish anything?" "Oh ho ho sir! You only think to see with your eyes. But you have other senses with which you can see. You must learn to use all your senses in this town, not just what you see with your eyes. And then you will see! You will see that there is much to learn from your other sense. Why I have learned so much in this short time without my eyes. Sometimes, your eyes bias your mind, and you see things that are not really there. You only see them because your mind wants to. I do not have such issues. And thus, what I see is truly......pure." Truly pure. I was at a loss for words from his short speech. What could I say to that? I gave a quick goodbye and went on my way, pondering his vision about seeing; seeing what is right in front of you, seeing without your eyes. Was I seeing things that weren't really there? Was I just seeing them because my mind wanted to see them? I ducked into a coffee shop and parked myself at a table. I looked back through notes of the case. Except this time, I did not read with my eyes, but I read with my mind. And I saw something different this time. I saw what couldn't be seen with my eyes. I saw exactly what I needed to see. It was beyond what I saw the first time, the first time with my eyes. I saw a depth that was previously not there. I saw all the motivation (or lack of it), all of the ineptitude, all through a hidden agenda. It was...pure. With the knowledge of my mind lingering in my head, I packed up my things and continued on my way; destination in hand, more determined than ever. ##Vote: Vivax On March 11 2013 13:26 Foolishness wrote: Do you read with your eyes, or do you read with your mind? On March 14 2013 05:36 Foolishness wrote: I sneakily crept through the second story window. It was a difficult maneuver, having previously gotten to the roof and needing to hang off the ledge to get access inside. But it was always a favorable choice; people always expect break-ins to be on the first floor. I was above and beyond that. I took a moment to take in my surroundings. I was in a guest bedroom, the neatness of the scene made that apparent. From looking into the first floor before my entry it was quite apparent that the boss was not a tidy person. Though I did not expect him to be, one who is so conceited and selfish need not care about public perception and generally perceived "good" qualities. I approached the door to the bedroom, and stopped for a few minutes to listen. I could faintly hear music off in the background but it seemed eons away. There did not seem to be any movement so I slowly turned the knob to open the door. "SCREEEEK!" the door screamed back at me. I halted in my tracks, hand still on the knob as I listened. Faint music could still be heard but my mind was not processing it, I was only listening to the noises that mattered. After it was clear that was no disturbance I took a deep breath and pulled on the door once more. Luckily the door stayed silent this time, and I made a wide enough gap for me to slip through. The hallway was dark, not that that was unexpected. There was a faint light radiating across the carpet a distance ahead. As I moved towards it, the music grew in volume but my mind was not listening to it. I stopped at an intersection and waited before proceeding. Again there were no disturbances. I turned to the right and proceeded down my path. I stopped at the door to the room of my goal. Appropriately shaded a dark red, perhaps in forbearance to the events about to take place. But I could not help but notice the detail and construct of it all, the beautiful square design, the way the golden handle brought life to the red door, almost as if saying that it is within this room that life happens. With the philosophical moment passed, I stood up and readied the knife in my hand. There was no need to be sneaky anymore; there was a job to finish, dead or alive. I hesitated before giving the golden handle a nice twist in the clockwise direction. I gave the door a little push and it almost seemed to open itself; as if inviting me to experience the true essence of life. "I've been expecting you," he said from his chair. He was already facing me; it seemed he knew his fate had already been decided. "How cliche," I replied. "Unfortunately your time is at an end. Like the red of your door your hands have been stained." He stood up and made his way over to me. I was alert, ready for any trick that might be up his sleeve. But he was not in a trickster mood. I felt that he was just playing his part, trying to play it cool and not show his true colors. "But are you sure you are making the right choice good sir?" Apparently his trickery was only with words, the same trickery he used on the rest of the town. There was no need to delay this further with meaningless words. I put the knife straight into his chest. "You don't understand, I am the legend, you can never hope to outwit me." "I...I...I don't understand. Just who are you?!?!" marvellosity said his last words. "I AM THE GOD DAMN BATMAN!" And I plunged the knife further into his chest. The other thing I find very disturbing is that before getting lynched he asks the town what he should do last minute. I don't find this consistent with a townie player. In my experience when inactive townies are about to die (like in his situation) they post something like, "oh shit sorry guys, I know I sucked, but I'm pretty sure X and Y are mafia" and then they give a sentence or two on their reasoning. I've never seen a townie ASK the town what they should do. Townies don't need to ask each other what to do, they already know what to do! Find mafia and post cases! Yeah way to cherry pick from my filter. Here let me help you out there. + Show Spoiler + On March 12 2013 11:00 Crossfire99 wrote: Sorry I played so terribly. I deserve to be lynched. Watch vivax because he pegged me as town even though i played like crap. Watch out for dandel. he might be scum but i'm not sure cause i've only been scum when i've played with him. On March 12 2013 11:00 Crossfire99 wrote: That's all i got with the 1 minute i had. Sorry town. On March 12 2013 11:02 Crossfire99 wrote: Am I dead? I only checked the vote thread and saw a lot of votes for me, so I assumed I'm dead. On March 12 2013 11:04 Crossfire99 wrote: Oh, but isn't it 10pm est now? On March 12 2013 11:05 Crossfire99 wrote: Whatever I'll try and catch up real fast to update my reads in case i die. On March 12 2013 11:19 Crossfire99 wrote: Uh is there anything specific you guys want me to focus on to make sure I spend some time on before the lynch? I'm trying to catch up, but need to know what would be the most helpful. On March 12 2013 11:25 Crossfire99 wrote: Did anything come of this? I can't find him following up on the dandel thought at all which is really weird especially if he thinks dandel is a better alternative to me. On March 12 2013 11:26 Crossfire99 wrote: No duh. But it could be useful to know whether people want me to spend 10-15 minutes analyzing someone to figure out their alignment rather than skim over the entire thread and just post cursory thoughts while catching up. I'm not the fastest analyzer. On March 12 2013 11:28 Crossfire99 wrote: I would vote for viv if only cause he pegged me as town when no one should have. On March 12 2013 11:31 Crossfire99 wrote: Ok. I'll spend some time looking at that right now cause they seem like the only viable lynch targets so far. On March 12 2013 11:48 Crossfire99 wrote: Yeah I am unsure on Yamato, so I don't want to lynch him. There's some good and bad. It's good that he calls out super. It's good that he wants to lynch bugs. It's good that he claimed his kill of kurumi. It was bad that he actually killed kurumi. It's weird that he want from instantly voting me at the very beginning of the game, to me only be a possibility of a lynch later on + Show Spoiler + On March 12 2013 02:02 yamato77 wrote: The delay for my role was built in. As for my Marv read... Hm. Gonna have to reread his filter closely. Super, I will say, is being especially useless and obviously lurky. Nothing has changed about Bugs. Not sold on Cross/Stutters, but the possibility exists there. Not good lynches. Sloosh needs more attention for being a useless pile of lurking shit, I definitely still want to lynch wbg cause he's done nothing but attack kurumi even when he knew he was modconfirmed town, plus he just trolled the thread when called out and doesn't even care about doing anything. I'm keeping my vote on wbg. So in conclusion we can be certain that crossfire is mafia as well. His actions with the nuke are clearly anti-town, and he's done nothing to warrant town behavior, especially on day 1 and night 1. marvellosity has yet to provide a case against me (and he refuses to do so). One sentence is not a case. Read through his filter and ask yourself if he's really helping the town, or if he's pushing an agenda. I'm going to let someone a lot better than me answer this one, who was in a remarkably similar situation with foolish being scum in Parallel World Mafia (some of the quote doesn't apply but I'll leave it in for completeness's sake). On December 19 2012 05:20 syllogism wrote: @Foolishness Short cases are often best. I know a lot of players love to write stories describing how everything about someone's play is indicative of the person being mafia or town, but in reality a lot of it is just fluff. You have been useless and wrong about everything so far. Town foolishness it not useless and rarely this wrong. You made a completely nonsensical attack on Marvel early on and your explanation for it is not satisfactory. You have ignored role based reasons for believing someone is town; it doesn't matter if the evidence isn't conclusive, it's still evidence. In addition you have mostly ignored players who you should have been suspicious, BH/Mementoss in particular. Overall your interest in the game can be, at best, characterized as superficial. You left your vote on Yamato despite being asked to move it by confirmed town Sandroba and it made no sense at all to leave it there based on your explanation of your role. You didn't have a read on Yamato and you claimed your role could potentially kill him. There is no way a town aligned person with your role would use it on a person they've no read on, and if you were town aligned you certainly would have a mafia read on someone. 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On March 14 2013 12:37 cDgCorazon wrote: Well, since Yamato is going to be nuked today by a North Korean nuke... ##Vote: Yamato ##Sloosh's Vote: Yamato Once again, my plan is to lynch Yamato. He is scum and lynching him will get scum down to 2 KP. It can't get more simpler than that. Why steal sloosh's vote? Is he scum? If you're certain of Yamato being scum, you should have stolen his vote and made him vote for himself. I wish today was a double lynch... | ||
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I have been rereading a lot, and honestly I don't know what exactly is happening, but I do know that there are very weird abilities. Honestly, right now I actually think we have already killed 2 scum in cora and foolishness. It is what makes the most sense play wise. What doesn't make sense is the flips. I can easily get by there being 5 night kills because we know 1 came from stutters. At most this means that 4 came from scum. This is not entirely unreasonable even if there are only 2 mafia faction kp because cora died. I know specifically from themed game mafia where I was scum, we had only 2 kp but due to roles had 4 people die night 1. We also still had a dayvig, another extra kp, and a conditional suicide bomber type role yet to use. Anyway this is all to say that I think we are still in a decent spot in this and shouldn't panic. The only reason I have some confidence in saying this is because of this post by strong before he died. + Show Spoiler + On March 16 2013 09:35 strongandbig wrote: Kill vivax and sloosh until they explain themselves It sounds to me like there's something that they've been coordinating on outside the thread. Until they explain these comments they should be treated as having claimed scum. ##Vote: Vivax I also do not see how marv is scum right now. Supersoft thought he was scum, but then read his 35 page filter (at the time) and then came to the conclusion that he is town. Austin, I see your trap and walk in willingly because I just don't see marv being scum. You are going to have to have a freakin' good case for me to even consider the fact. | ||
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On March 16 2013 09:35 strongandbig wrote: Kill vivax and sloosh until they explain themselves It sounds to me like there's something that they've been coordinating on outside the thread. Until they explain these comments they should be treated as having claimed scum. | ||
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On March 18 2013 04:06 Oatsmaster wrote: I want to lynch sloosh. Why does there need to be a case? Short summery sloosh caused mass confusion day 2 with the nukes, and never actually used the 'results' to determine anything. Furthermore he got a free town read, for causing havoc, and he has done NOTHING. After foolishness dies, sloosh 180s his read on sheeping marv to marv scum, and refuses to talk to marv. I defend marv, ask sloosh questions, and after a short period of time, he somehow pulls this scum read on me out of nowhere and also refuses to talk to me. sloosh scum? slOosh scum!. ##Vote: slOosh Thanks for providing me with a short case lol. What do you think of the quotes that strong pointed out? | ||
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On March 16 2013 09:35 strongandbig wrote: Kill vivax and sloosh until they explain themselves It sounds to me like there's something that they've been coordinating on outside the thread. Until they explain these comments they should be treated as having claimed scum. | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=400204¤tpage=185 Strong also calls them out on this page as well. If you want to know what I think about the vivax quote, look at my post about 5 or so before this one. | ||
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On March 18 2013 05:03 risk.nuke wrote: Townies, you need to get out here or we're going to loose. What do you think of vivax and sloosh? | ||
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I should already be voting for vivax. Can you fix the votecount? | ||
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On March 18 2013 05:53 Vivax wrote: This is Foolishness' ability - watcher. If we had a watcher and a DT that rolechecks too, the game would be seriously imbalanced. Why don't you ask Hiro how my role works? He should know, right? You realize that it is a nerfed dt, right? You actually have to guess their personality correctly for it to work. It's not a regular dt that gets a check back every night. | ||
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On March 18 2013 06:57 Vivax wrote: Marv scum since N1. Acrofales was really scummy since D2 when he started to ask his nitpicky questions. Prplhz suspicious since D1 but got caught too much into the D2 stuff until I found the slip. Hiro flew under the radar. I found him suspicious initially but quickly decided to not pay attention to him and had him as town on autopilot until now. The others I'm not sure on. Is it risk, Crossfire, Oats, Mocsta, DP, yamato? I don't know about these guys cause they all played really badly and it's hard to tell if bad or scum, but out of the gut I would say Oats for how he defended marv so hard at the start of the day. I also mentioned this early in the day (or at the end of the night) So well, among these it will be hard to find the remaining scum, the other ones are rather obvious. You had yamato confirmed town a few hours ago, now he's in your possible scum list? Hmmm... | ||
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On March 18 2013 07:01 Crossfire99 wrote: You had yamato confirmed town a few hours ago, now he's in your possible scum list? Hmmm... Same for DP as well. What in the last 2 hours of them not posting made you go from confirmed town to possibly scum!? | ||
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On March 18 2013 07:39 prplhz wrote: he was really sure about marv being d3/lylo lynch but come d3 he doesn't seem to hot about it. he listens to foolishness on a lot of other things but he seems very determined that marv shouldn't be d3 lynch. it's really weird. Yeah, I know it's really weird that he listened to foolish who said we should lynch yamato, me, and marv in order... By that marv should be lynched day 4 or 5... | ||
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On March 18 2013 07:42 Vivax wrote: Cool story bro unvote me then. Marv fakeclaiming cop. Marv not protecting Dandel after claiming he would. Marv not roleclaiming at lylo. Trolololololol. Marv not roleclaiming. He's told us every single night what he does in advance. He also told us he is VE and has 5 1 shot abilities. Lol, what more do you want, the quotes in his role pm? Lynch this guy already. | ||
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On March 18 2013 07:48 austinmcc wrote: So, we lynch marv. He's still the majority candidate; he's still scum. If hiro's ACTUALLY a cop, he gets another check off, or dies, or absorbs a RB if there actually is one. For anyone not following the voting thread, we also have this: Check the timestamps: Votes vivax THEN posts that he's "torn between marv and vivax," but thinks we should be voting crossfire Then responds to vivax with an indication that he thinks vivax is mafia Then ninja votes marv Why is marv scum? Explain in detail cause I don't see it. | ||
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On March 18 2013 10:32 DarthPunk wrote: It's not worth lynching a red check with a confirmed framer in the game when that check is the most likely to have been framed. I don't want to risk the entire game on it. also I am pretty sure you are scum and Vivax is town and the fact you are pushing it so hard makes me even more sure that lynching you is the best option. But you are not going to agree with me because you are scum so I am going to disengage with you once again so you can't crap all over the thread like you did with foolishness. What confirmed framer? | ||
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On March 18 2013 10:36 Acrofales wrote: I'm here and will be here til the lynch. Is there an updated vote count? If I see it right, Marv is still the vote leader. That's retarded. If you're town, get your vote off Marv! Stop being fucking stupid. Now. Can we lynch Xfire today? If not, I'll look at Vivax and DP again and see which one I want dead most. It's probably either at this point. Go vivax cause he's scum and I'm not. I completely understand why you think I'm mafia, but we don't want a mislynch now and I don't fault you for thinking I'm scum. | ||
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On March 18 2013 10:37 DarthPunk wrote: and only ACTUALLY confirmed to me. Uh, what are you talking about? | ||
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On March 18 2013 10:58 marvellosity wrote: don't give a shit. you're nto voting for vivax. seriously marv... | ||
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On March 18 2013 11:00 marvellosity wrote: seriously what he can talk to me about his medical conditions when i'm not about to be lynched. where is slOosh inn all this? conveniently disappeared once again? he sure must be real "busy" Well, if he really had a sudden medical condition, I would want him to get checked. Maybe I'm just nicer than you | ||
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On March 18 2013 11:12 Mocsta wrote: I just played with a scum vivax, and nailed him he wasnt crazy in that game either.. (if you use Mafia LIX as a measuring stick) This isn't crazy vivax? I'm scared to see crazy vivax because he's sure off the rocker now. | ||
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On March 18 2013 11:14 marvellosity wrote: if he has a medical condition i hope to god he's not looking for advice in a mafia thread close to lynch and he does whats needed to be done. relevant advive already given. Yeah I was just busting you because you were in the heat of the moment. I figured you're not meanie even if everyone thinks you are I also hope it isn't serious Acro. Get it checked and hope you get well quickly! | ||
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On March 18 2013 11:20 marvellosity wrote: i hope to god vivax flips mafia. if he doesnt i'm really really sorry. i hate causing losses. Don't worry he will. Even if he doesn't (and you're not mafia of course) I wouldn't blame the loss on you. You definitely put the most work in out of all of us. You should definitely put the blame on people like me who are town but still suck hardcore and mess up everyone's reads. | ||
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On March 18 2013 12:04 DarthPunk wrote: So hiro lied about Vivax then? He knew he was toad, so definitely has some ability that worked. | ||
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On March 18 2013 12:16 prplhz wrote: did hiro know about the redirection role that vivax had or just the vote stealing role he called him a mafia politician or that's what kita told him | ||
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On March 20 2013 01:05 austinmcc wrote: Just got through obs QT, BC too baws. BC, can I ask why you were scummy on me before D3? I would agree that we all went wonky going for the flawless and did a bad job of outing ourselves, but you were on my case before that? I feel like I absolutely didn't comment on my teammates, which may have outed me, and also that I posted things like thread police posts, but didn't fully back them up by trying to organize town. D3 and beyond I don't think I scummed well, but I thought I'd been alright before that point. <3 reading gonzaw's obs posts. Really wish gonzaw or BH would have been real roles, they'd have been quite fun to get. sorry kita for not following through and going full troll at the end of D3. But at least I stayed true to your personality and SOMEHOW DID NOT GET ELECTED WHILE RUNNING FOR MAYOR UNOPPOSED. It was almost too perfect Also, I gotta know whether crossfire actually got his rb message or not. I was so proud to FINALLY get to post that video, because the stupid commercial song plays in my head every time I read a post of his. Overall, I guess enough has been said of how this game played out. From D2 onwards, we really just sat back and did some very minor pushing of buttons and let the thread go where it was going. I'm not certain whether that was a great call from us, would be interested in hearing thoughts from folks who weren't mafia this game. Apart from us all getting lazy D3 and pushing for the flawless, anything MAJOR that we slipped up in doing as a team? No i didn't get me any message about being roleblocked. Show me this video lol. | ||
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On March 20 2013 02:16 austinmcc wrote: HiroPro had to send erotic messages to RB. We thought you might be the inventor, so blocked you with: "It's just you and me tonight, I whisper, as I put some sexy music on repeat and settle down onto the bed. The muscles inside the deepest, darkest part of you clench in the most delicious fashion. Your insides practically contort with potent, needy, liquid, desire. We pick up the rhythm...up, down, up, down...over and over...and it feels so...good. Between my panting breaths, the deep down brimming fullness...the vehement sensation pulsing through me that's building quickly, I watch you, our eyes lock, and I realize, finally...I got caught up in the Crossfire." lololol. Is that the music you really think of when you read my posts? That's hilarious. | ||
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