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On March 21 2013 00:57 VisceraEyes wrote: The "Mirror" is a third party cult leader of some kind and he tried to recruit me last night. Everyone beware "The Mirror" - he is in our midst and he will try and convert you too. well shit
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On March 19 2013 14:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I've changed my mind: Mason logs = ok You can paraphrase but not quote role pms.
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isn't our goal still to kill mafia?
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On March 21 2013 01:44 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2013 01:42 Ace wrote: I dont have one, and I don't think it's important right now.Lynch VE. haha you funny gai Lets be real here.. why the fuck would a guy claim in the thread he is 3rd party.. doesnt make sense Im putting it out there. i dont think VE is a stupid guy. u might, but i dont. Man have i thought like you are thinking before
marvellosity as VisceraEyes has been endgamed.Show nested quote +You are VisceraEyes! I'm sorry, someone had be to him. You are compelled to claim at times that players never thought possible. During the day, you may claim publicly that you are any basic role. (Pairity cop, Medic, Tracker, Watcher, Jailer) and reveal your target. You will become this role for the following night targeting that player. You may not use this power to become the same role more than once. If you are roleblocked, your "shot" will be refunded. You win with town. + Show Spoiler +On March 17 2012 06:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
People need to get over this fear of large posts.
First of all, if everyone condensed their posts into larger, better thought out posts then spam wouldn't be as much of an issue. Second of all, larger posts means more information, regardless of whether you think it's "useful" information or not, and as such should be read completely every time.
I request a gun so I can shoot people I think are skipping over large posts.
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"keep things simple"
##vote VisceraEyes
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Mocsta did you know that you can have thoughts that you don't post in the thread?
my point is that VE has claimed roles like this a bunch of times and trying to rationalise or wifom it doesn't help.
He claimed 3rd party so we lynch him.
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On March 21 2013 02:00 Mocsta wrote: anyways... layabouts mention of the mirror
is that the first instance in the thread? Read the thread!!!! QUOTE]On March 20 2013 10:20 VisceraEyes wrote: I've got another visitor to my PM box. "The Mirror" has masoned me now. No indication as to what player it is, and the QT is empty aside from me trying to get acknowledgement from whomever it is.
I'm so sick and tired of being a pivotal piece in these games while simultaneously being ignored by half the players. X([/QUOTE]
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On March 21 2013 02:03 zarepath wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2013 01:58 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 21 2013 01:56 Mocsta wrote: With the information standing.. this is fuckn suspicious, and whose pushing the VE vote. its ACE
Why cant he be the mirror?
Seriously.. why the fuck would VE out himself like this...
I dont see what layabout posted has anythign to do with it.. OK hes a compulsive claimer..perhaps.. surely thats only as blue roles.. not a claimer as scum/3rd party.. The whole situation doesnt make sense. You're right, it doesn't, but until given more information what else can we go on? We can't risk an outed 3rd party with possible empowered role escaping unpunished. We totally, absolutely can. There's no evidence of any 3rd party kill power yet, so it's not like we lose much yet, and we have scum to still find. If we lynch 3rd party today and scum uses 2 KP tonight, we're kind of in a precarious situation with only one serious lynch of information to go off of, and that was the crazy Day 1 mislynch. I think we're far better off looking for scum for the rest of the day than we are instantly agreeing that we shoudl lynch VE. It is super easy for scum to agree to this and look pro-town. The need to look for scum doesn't change the fact that we should lynch VE.
What do you make of these 3? TestSubject893 glurio TranceStorm
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Actually I'm still waiting on the contributions promised here: + Show Spoiler +On March 20 2013 07:24 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Ok, I'm back.
About the Peashooter case. Can someone point out the scum motivations in his posting to me? I see there's a case, but some of it seems like it's on an emotional basis, and some it's based on activity, neither of which I see as being valid for calling him scum. Reading through his posts, I don't see scum motivation though. He's not trying to misdirect us, and he's not trying that much to fit in and hide. The feeling I get from him is that he's just pretty angry, but it seem honest. For example, he got all mad at Coag, but then later he gets all mad at Kenpachi for similar reasons. So, he's consistent with it.
Deleted a bit about layabout, I like his recent posting.
I'm waiting on a couple of other people to continue posting. I'd like to see how they react to recent developments.
As for VE/BH, I don't want to lynch into them right now. I'd rather let scum or vigs sort them out for us. I find them hard to read, because they play very emotionally, and they do/say a lot of things I find scummy/disagree with from a play perspective on a regular basis. If VE was actually shot, and BH is a mason, then scum will have to go after them sooner or later. If they don't, they're either going to start to doing good work as town, or else they're going to out themselves as scum, because if I remember right, their scum play isn't the greatest compared to their town play. I think we can find better targets for today.
I'm going to do some stuff, and then read through some of the other posters who haven't really caught my attention or who have been avoiding the spotlight. I feel there's a good chance of finding scum among them. Afterwards he pressured WoS but that was only after Kitaman27 made him. He has a short interaction with Kenpachi and look at his vote:
On March 20 2013 12:55 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Hey everyone, look how mad I am! I must be town, because I'm sooooooooooooooo frustrated!
I'm tired of people making cases on me based on me not sitting on my ass playing mafia all day to the exclusion of other things. You don't see me blowing up. Because stupid emotional appeals are shit play or scum trying to worm out of a lynch.
##Vote: WaveofShadow He qualifies he vote by saying that he WoS is bad or scum. I am not used to wiggles voting in this way and it suggests to me that wiggles just think he is bad, but is willing to vote anyway.
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i will not go to maifascum but scum refers to non-town elements, people often say scum when they mean mafia but that doesn't change the meaning of the word.
i will be back in a few hours.
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The correct play is to lynch VE, we cannot trust that we can vig him and he posted logs of him joining a 3rd party.
We should kill wiggles tonight, since i expect a lot more from him when he rolls town.
Vivax there is not way i could write like "The mirror" does in that qt you seem to be mad at me because i called what you were doing and saying dumb. But it was and you need to come to terms with this. This game the effort you have put in has been orders of magnitude better than you did in the last two games and there is next to no chance that you are scum.
maybe read this (post 228): http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/rXAf5L6B4Z4e6
Whilst i no longer think zarepath is scum your analysis of him was good. Do more of that.
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In LX i was more sure of my reads since people were posting too much, this game is a messy headache in a bag being beaten with a stick.
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I want to hear more from sciberbia since his reads aligned with mine yesterday.
If you leave VE alive because of _________insert bullcrap here________add some nonsense__________ lynch wiggles.
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What is wrong with you people?
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Mocsta you have 12 pages of filter from before you read the thread FFS stop playing like this!!!
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On March 21 2013 23:39 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2013 23:37 layabout wrote: Mocsta you have 12 pages of filter from before you read the thread FFS stop playing like this!!! Excuse me. Where were u when the thread was at a critical point? U can attack me for a spammy filter whatever..but at least I was here when it mattered In bed asleep because i live in England and it was 2am-7am and you all thought it was a great time to dick on everything that happened when ppl were here.
There is a reason days are 48 hours long.
Also you were spamming when you hadn't even read the fucking thread. How in god's name are you playing when you have not read the fucking thread? And how can what you are saying be of value?
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On March 22 2013 00:02 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2013 23:54 layabout wrote:On March 21 2013 23:39 Mocsta wrote:On March 21 2013 23:37 layabout wrote: Mocsta you have 12 pages of filter from before you read the thread FFS stop playing like this!!! Excuse me. Where were u when the thread was at a critical point? U can attack me for a spammy filter whatever..but at least I was here when it mattered In bed asleep because i live in England and it was 2am-7am and you all thought it was a great time to dick on everything that happened when ppl were here. There is a reason days are 48 hours long. Also you were spamming when you hadn't even read the fucking thread. How in god's name are you playing when you have not read the fucking thread? And how can what you are saying be of value? It was rhetorical I knew where u were. Regardless u have been a non entity almost the entire game. I don't see how u can even want to contest that. And dude. Stop throwing stones from glass houses, cos.. Whats ya point here. We just had a mislynch, and when shit went down u weren't here. Where is your effort to figure out how we got to an ace lynch. Instead. What we get is u throwing shit at me. And for what purpose? How is this solving the game? If u think I'm scum.. Call me scum.. Say I'm spamming and prove I have added zero value. Otherwise, go and do some thing useful...hint.. Trying to discredit me does not count. YOUR SHITTING ON THE THREAD AND I AM SICK OF THE TASTE
I don't care about discrediting you i care about you ruining the games i play in, you are not helping us find scum by playing so irresponsibly.
+ Show Spoiler +40 posts a day cycle should NOT be a non-entity but this is a discussion that doesn't belong in this game
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Does anybody know more about conversion roles? http://wiki.epicmafia.com/index.php?title=Cultist http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Category:Alignment-Changing_roles I know these sites work a bit differently to us especially epicmafia.
I was pretty sure VE was town and if there are conversion mechanics in this game (which there should be) would it benefit him to come out like this at all? The mason logs suggest he could choose to be converted so whatever we are dealing with must be a bit different to the traditional cultist.
If VE is 3rd party the only reliable way to kill him is the lynch so we need to come to a decision on him.
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On March 22 2013 00:42 Vivax wrote: If the cultist mechanic works like it's written there we should try to find and kill the leader anyway, not lynch VE. The first concern is to get rid of scum though. But if the cultist mechanic works like that then since we have had 2 days we have already lost and that just doesn't seem likely. Even though people complain sometimes, TL games tend to be well balanced and the team that get's the most lynches/mislynches wins nearly every time. I think we need a better idea of what we are dealing with because at the moment VE is a risk that we don't want at lylo.
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