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Iceland22590 Posts
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Up until this past days events I had a feeling he could be mafia. It was a case primarily around him doing. however by pushing the lynch today as well as looking at the posts you pointed out earlier I find it unlikely he is one of the remaining scum. He could be but I find it unlikely.
I would like your opinion on Kush. The guy has been inactive most of the game and has spent a ton of time hopping on popular sentiment as it happens. He always seems to be around to jump onto the popular wagon at the time and doesn't ever push what he thinks should be done.
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i completely agree with you on kush ive been wanting to lynch him for DAYS
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also why the fuck is palmar alive if he is appealing to authority with a triple dt claim
ace might have been scum but he was right about palmar being on the 3 dt claim and scum regarding
i was wrong about him earlier in the game
palmar literally has to be scum and if i cant kill him tonight then im going to have to vote him tomorrow
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can't get him killed sorry
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Iceland22590 Posts
Few things about kush. I haven't played with him enough to know if he's an asshole as any alignment, but generally the aggressive moves (like demanding those essays) are more townielike.
He also made a few posts that just don't add perfectly up if he's scum. The first one being the misconception about the scum night kill, because it's hard to feign the idea so casually:
On April 25 2013 05:53 kushm4sta wrote: inb4 scumpalmar was roleblocked and thats why theres only 1 nk
Also, this read of his on VE:
On April 25 2013 14:52 kushm4sta wrote:hi ace. you aren't town this game so i'm not listening to your suggestions and nor should anyone else. VE is town. He is town from his first post in the game. Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 23:02 VisceraEyes wrote: THANKS FOR MAKING ME HAVE TO READ THE DAMNED OP BH THAT WAS COOL OF YOU NOT
Sup guys I'm here and I'm very town. So whazzup? only town would complain about having to read the op (because the role names weren't colored) I am gonna vote for shiaopi. I don't want to go for clarity because now Ace is pushing it. A very similar thing happened yesterday. Yamato was the popular lynch, then Ace pushed Oats, claiming the case on Oats was really good (even though in retrospect it sucked).
Means he's thinking about the game from a townie perspective. No one else (I can remember) pointed out this idea that VE was town based on this.
The last point has an obvious bias, knowing I am town:
On May 01 2013 09:04 kushm4sta wrote:this is scum? i dont think so Show nested quote +On April 27 2013 18:58 Palmar wrote: Still think VE is the best lynch.
But I do agree with a clarity lynch. I still don't understand how he entered the thread "catching up" and then had a fully fledged case within an hour. There was additionally no interest in pushing that lynch any harder. There is literally not a single "sharrant" in his filter after the case.
It just doesn't feel natural. He didn't ask Sharrant anything to try to determine his alignment, no "hey sharrant, explain this" or "what do you think about this". Just a straight up case with no build-up and no follow-up. Which basically tells me his heart wasn't really in it.
So with that I'm switching my vote to Clarity.
Lessgo.
Kush basically understands that this post cannot be made by a scum palmar as it's too legit and too in line with what I had been saying all day. Maybe he's a scummer giving me a warm fuzzy feeling about the posts, but it's just too many little things that kush has done throughout the game for me to call him scum.
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Iceland22590 Posts
throwing this post in on top of what I already wrote:
On April 22 2013 10:21 kushm4sta wrote: Giygas as your self appointed lawyer I must remind you that you do not have to answer any of these questions, as you have not yet been charged with a crime.
Kush is just too involved, genuine and carefree for me to think he's scum.
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oh
palmar is harry potter
wheres lupin
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I had a very angry post I was about to submit but I've decided against it. I think I know what to expect in future games so as not to reach this point.
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Iceland22590 Posts
Just to keep track
Confirmed town for the sake of the discussion:
BC/Palmar
Town based on what we have so far
Kush Artanis Bill Murray
Town based on other things (cop checks, modconfirms)
geript OO
Null-ish:
Stutters
Remaining:
yamato hopeless1der sharrant giggles waveofshadow TRN
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Iceland22590 Posts
On May 04 2013 07:11 WaveofShadow wrote: I had a very angry post I was about to submit but I've decided against it. I think I know what to expect in future games so as not to reach this point.
what are you angry about buddy?
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Iceland22590 Posts
I'm not as up to date on the remaing six BC. I think WoS might be town based on effort alone, and TRN is pretty damn ballsy to go after me on n1 mason (if you assume I'm town). He couldn't have known (as scum) that I wouldn't put any effort into the following days, so it's more likely he wanted to buddy up with me as town.
I'm reading Sharrant atm, but feel free to throw out thoughts as you go.
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On May 04 2013 00:28 Stutters695 wrote: Tell me sharrant, what makes it so probable ace is town to you and not 3p to you? When do you propose we deal with ace?
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This is a pretty good list by Sharrant imo.
On April 25 2013 03:42 Sharrant wrote: I've got to pretty much echo Rayne's list at this point with a few changes:
Super town: BM Vivax Kush Palmar
Town: Yamato ObviousOne Geript Rayne TRN
Slightly town: Ace BC Sylencia
Hopeless
Null: Drazak Tube Mr. Cheesecake VisceraEyes WoS Grush
Lynch one of these tomorrow: Clarity ShiaoPi
Less good lynches, but still good lynches: Giygas Stutters695 (A better vig shot, but is very likely to be scum in my eyes)
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On May 04 2013 07:09 Bill Murray wrote: wheres lupin This made me kinda think of something. Are we taking OO as town just because of that cop check? if hes GF that would be very unwise. Given that we have 2 millers, a framer, and 3ish cops 9you haven't flipped yet palmar) isn't that something we should consider?
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Word if I was mafia godfather I would totes know that VT is a safe claim and that I would check same as VT. Except think about why I would be confused about Syl - OO being the same when I was convinced Syl was mafia, leading me to believe I was miller. Super intricate sidestep to push you to believe I'm town as godfather, or genuine confusion given the state of the checks and that I'm town?
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clearly I am paranoid, and with 2 millers and a framer, and hell, one of our cop was insane, so that means there's been plenty of misdirection, a godfather isn't guaranteed at all.
also what OO said. he gets massive leeway.
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that leaves us with yamato, hopeless and giggles.
Of them all 3 have major points against them that they could be mafia.
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Iceland22590 Posts
yeah I'd put sharrant tentatively in the group with stutters for now, but may be he should be higher than that. TRN gets nowhere as much leeway with his thing as OO as it's much weaker.
But mostly yeah
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