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On April 13 2013 20:54 FondleMyButtocks wrote:My explanation to hapa when we were talking about it: "here is why: if a scum says shit in thread host assumes its a plan/trap/whatever if host confirms it as fake they know it is a joke because it comes from a townie" I really don't get this line of thinking whatsoever. You'd need to do a 'host meta' argument if you really want to start making this case and explain why artanis would or wouldn't do that. I also don't see why in thisi game where nukes are relevent that a host wouldn't try to inform as to actual and fake nukes alignment regardless.
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<-- not yamato I would think that our rhetoric was rather different but apparently not.
I'm not getting your reasoing for why that makes him mod confirmed town. Because he made a joke of saying "Not an actual nuke" that makes him town.
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On April 14 2013 07:06 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 01:42 WaveOfCheesecake wrote: Idk MockArmor, looks like you wanted to push a misslynch on Hapa, then he retaliated and you decided to give him a town read for appeasement. I really hate this post for obvious reasons. WoS has been acting oddly in the least IMO; CC I don't know anything about. The "towniest of towny" quote preceding it seems odd considering much of the previous relevant discussion was regarding perceived Hapa scumminess, but includes 0 reasoning for said read. Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 03:48 WaveOfCheesecake wrote: None of that is indicative of anything whatsoever, Mocsta; CC and I have been talking throughout this conversation you've been having with him.
He's just writing stuff, possibly while high, and we have slightly differing views on what your conversation has meant thus far. Let me go through it with you though, since you don't seem to understand his point of view:
First CC thought you were scummy, now he thinks you're town. The quote where he says he never thought you were town? He meant before, you know, when he thought you were scummy.
What's the deal with you attempting to turn everything we say around on us though? I can't be sure of what CC thinks of you right now, but you've been null-leaning scum for me for ages, including now.
My issue with this post and the whole MA-WoC interaction is that it doesn't feel at all like WoC is trying to divine MA's alignment whatsoever. I don't feel like despite WoS thinking MA is scummy like he's doing anything to either glean information or wagon form. It just looks to me like he's trying to do things that appear to be townie but has no heart in it. <-not Yamato Qff
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This thread looks like shit.
What the fuck is that giant summary post doing in my town? Goddamn I could lynch him JUST for that post.
Why the fuck are Kush, GK/CC, and Mocsta shitting the thread up like it's their fucking job?
So many questions, only one lynch to sort them out.
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Kush does look the townier of the two in this exchange, however.
WoC, why should we NOT lynch you?
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On April 14 2013 11:05 John Matrix wrote: It's extremely informative about my thought process in the early pages of the game, with detailed explanations on what is going on from my perspective.
Sure, if you're a lazy fuck and don't want to read it then it's not useful, but I think I've made some good progress with that post. It's a fucking summary post, I am not impressed whatsoever. I could write that as scum a million times over.
Vivax is also not a good scum read in my opinion.
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On April 14 2013 11:20 John Matrix wrote: @Smurf: Would you agree with my three townreads? I'm much less invested in the scumreads as the point at which I am in close reading half the other candidates have hardly posted (cheesewave, sammy, mock, reynmaster etc) so they can just as well end below Vivax and/or balrog based on how I feel when I read on.
But for now the important part of my game is to eliminate the players I don't want to lynch from the pool of people I'm considering lynching into.
If you're sure Vivax is town, and DP seems pretty certain too, so maybe we should eliminate him too? That would leave me only 6 people to look at (cheesewave, sammy, mock, reynmaster, balrog, Buttocks)
Do you think, having read more of the thread than me, anyone from that list deserves to be removed from the "potential lynch for today" list? I agree with the list in totality.
Fair enough, since that's been what I'm doing I can't complain.
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For just being a summary of what other people have said, why haven't you responded to it at all? You're not defending yourself, you don't seem to be scum hunting, your actions haven't been portraying a town mindset. Yet you seek to neither address any of that nor correct any of that.
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##unvote ##vote waveofcheescake
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I don't care about your read on Rayn, what I care about is that nothing you have done seems to be with the agenda of either trying to apply pressure to get a read, trying to push a read or trying to do anything towny/productive. Everything in the whole MA/WoC spat reads to me as MA trying to apply pressure/get a read (townish but not wholly alignment indicative of Mocsta) and you just mindlessly doing nothing. There's been no pressure towards anyone; nothing you said towards MA was leading anywhere or to anything. There was no pressure from you whatsoever. Most of what I see is... "Ummm let me check with CC"... Do you need CC to give you a hand to piss too? Why is it that you feel like you can't be a big boy and act on your own? What are you afraid of?
<-- not Yamato before was me too
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Ok WoC, why do you find MA scummy?
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On April 14 2013 17:21 geript wrote: Yes, that was yamato <-- not yamato qfff
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I'm in the same boat as Marv.
People I am not willing to lynch: FT/Shotgun/JM/SLJ/Vivax
That leaves:
Raynmaster/MockArmor/Balrog/FMB/WoC
Mock is involved in the most idiotic arguing in the game and seems to want to perpetuate the fighting with both WoC and Rayn. I actually feel that out of the three actives in this group, they are the most likely to be mafia.
WoC actually seems more townish throughout this whole ordeal, since I think they've made more of an effort to clarify their stance and actually make a case on Mock, even if the meta argument is weak.
Rayn is a fucking tossup, and I'm not at all sure of their alignment. I would rather not lynch into them yet.
Balrog is a lurker lynch that I'd rather avoid, but simply by process of elimination has to be mafia if I'm right about all my town reads. That said, it's probably better to lynch a more active person, as a rule of thumb.
Prom's hydra looks pretty awful. They've done almost nothing today, and I know Prom as someone that likes to get into the thick of things. What they have done is also not what I call good scum hunting, so it's a decent tell that they are lazy scum.
Out of this comes two choices for lynch. Next post I decide which of Mock and Fondle is the better lynch.
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I'm less confident of my Sam town read than anything else on the list, so you might be able to convince me there. I did not like him wanting to discount a town read on me for my single post.
The Vivax town read is a meta read of Vivax coupled with Kush actually getting emotionally involved in one post at some point and showing his colors.
I think we can kill the Buttocks. I'll talk with geript if he's here and see what he thinks, but I'm fine with that idea.
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"ummm btw guys, I still find 5touch scummy. Here's a minor reason why. I don't really want to discuss actual reasons or pressure them further. So I'm going to tell you that Hapa is scum for being lazy and someone being dumb as town is not a valid explanation for backing off them especially when they've been dumb "
Looking really good rayn/oats. Do you have an actual valid reason for thinking Shotgun is scum?
<-- not yamato
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On April 15 2013 01:51 NeutralSrvivngBalrog wrote:I just got home early and now have the job of reading through the thread. Not spoken to my other head yet but I'm sure he won't object to this (And even if he does its not like me and snb will ever agree on anything anyway ) ##Nuke: FiveTouch ERMAHGAWD!!!!LYNCHHIMIFITSREEL!!!
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On April 15 2013 01:56 FiveTouch wrote: Are you mocking me? Why? What purpose does that serve? Moreso mocking Rayn for the weaksauce call out regarding the Palmar fake nuke.
@Marv. Yamato seems to be more convinced that Hapa is town. I'm not there yet although I'm not sure I wholly get all of Yamato's reasons for suspecting him in the first place. Do you mind walking me through your whole suspicion of Biceps?
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Marv, I could say similar things about you; who DO you want to lynch?
This is Yamato, by the way. I'll let you know when it's me since geript is also here.
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On April 15 2013 02:26 FiveTouch wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2013 02:24 InsertSmurfHere wrote: Marv, I could say similar things about you; who DO you want to lynch?
This is Yamato, by the way. I'll let you know when it's me since geript is also here. You couldn't, because I'm in the thread discussing things ^_^ From what I've seen so far, FMB, with trepidation. Not finished reading though. ~marv Okay, I'll be waiting.
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