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On July 02 2013 19:57 Aquanim wrote: The thing which bothers me about LoneMeow's case on you (hzflank) as a scum move is that I don't see how scum could reasonably expect to lynch you at this point... and furthermore, they don't have to. Scum only need one mislynch to win and there's plenty of easier lynchbait. It does have the advantage that he hasn't had to say anything much about the more likely lynches, though. How can Lone's case on me possibly be a town move? Even if he actually thinks I am scum then he should of planned to lynch me on day 5. If I am scum, how does a town Lone expect to lynch me day 4? I do not think that a town Lone could possibly of made that move. On July 02 2013 22:46 Spicydinosaur wrote: Just from reading the above i dont see a lone/aqua team Maybe I am tunnelling too much, but I know Hurricane (confirmed town) thinks that the scum team is Aqua/Lone. I am confident that Firm (confirmed town) thinks that Spicy/Lone is the scum team. I think that either Aqua/Lone or Spicy/Lone is the scum team, and I have made this clear enough recently (even before Lone's case). I am genuinely surprised that Spicy does not think that Aqua/Lone is the scum team. | ||
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On July 02 2013 23:24 Spicydinosaur wrote: Its the voting on d2 that doesnt make me think aqua/lone team. Lone completely sheeps aqua on the slam vote and once slam flipped, both would look extremely bad. The more likely scenario is one of them was scum and other is town that just piggybacked. I really liked the aqua/stim team over the weekend, but lone's case makes 0 sense to me as it feels like he is just posted on a townie so he doesnt have to make a case on his scum buddy. Im still liking stim as a lynch because of his late d2 posts but lone is seriously making me wonder what he is doing. Do you realize that to beat a Lone/Stim we have to lynch Stim on day 4? If we lynch Lone then day 5 is Aqua, Spicy and Stim. Do you think Stim will get lynched in that scenario? | ||
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On July 02 2013 23:36 Aquanim wrote: Look, if you think Stim is scum make an argument for it and I'll listen. I'm not so tunneled on Spicy that I won't listen to reason. I don't think that Stim is scum. If we are serious about voting on Stim then I believe the correct play would be to give him an ultimatum now, so policy lynch if he refuses to cooperate. We cannot get the info we need on Stim because he does not let us do so. To me it is either ultimatum > policy lynch or Stim is town. | ||
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On July 02 2013 23:35 Spicydinosaur wrote: Hz, look at stim's posts on d2 when he joins the discussion on onegu/slam. To me they dont feel genuine and just act like he's asking obvious questions to look confused on the issue and thus now active in the discussion. Then with the way the votes go, a mislynch is inevitable, so he votes against it for town cred. Do you feel his conversation there was genuine or am i just being extremely paranoid? I feel that it was genuine. I do not think Stim spends a lot of time reading the game. His MO seems to be to just pop in every 3 days, read for 30 minutes and make a vote. I think he was confused, and if he had access to scum QT he would not of been confused. | ||
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On July 02 2013 23:44 Spicydinosaur wrote: Im saying the confusion was faked, and he knew what was going on, either through actually reading the thread or scum qt. He acted confused to look like hes active in the discussion and then parked his vote against the wagon. I do not agree. I cannot see which part could not be genuine. It could be fake, but I see no evidence of that. Also, he could of jumped on the wagon without looking scummy. There was nothing for a scum Stim to gain from voting for Onegu, but there was still some chance that Onegu would be lynched if he did. The vote did end up 5-4 (we have said all this before). | ||
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If Stim is scum then screw it. This forum mafia game is stupid if scum can so easily win just by lurking. However, if Aqua/Spicy is scum then they are legitimately beating me. | ||
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I feel like all of the Stim talk had just distracted me. Lone posted something meaty to dig into. Alternatively, I have been spamming up the thread if you want to go that route. Focusing on Stim is not going to achieve anything more. | ||
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On July 03 2013 01:37 Spicydinosaur wrote: Id like lone to show what associations between you and i make us scum team. And also what connections u and stim (his second pick after me) have to be scum. Exactly. He deliberately avoided implicating his partner. I am a bit biased here so, Can you see why a town Lone would of done what he did? | ||
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On June 24 2013 12:52 Onegu wrote: You have to remember scum have a tracker | ||
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Saying that Stim is the best lurker to vote for on day 1? On June 24 2013 16:59 Onegu wrote: It is better to vote for lurkers who have posted one time and stopped then to vote for someone who hasnt posted anything because they will most likely get replaced or modkilled. Don't analyse Spicy's meta? On June 25 2013 01:05 Onegu wrote: It is bad to connect meta on noobs because depending on what worked one game and what didnt work they will change how they play Says I am town 3 times when I was pressing Firm/Chrom/Aqua (will only quote one): On June 25 2013 01:57 Onegu wrote: Town at this point he doesnt have many posts but what he does post are scum hunts and his view on the NN idea, not much fluff amd not any sheeping. Trying to move the conversation away from Spicy being scum? On June 25 2013 12:14 Onegu wrote: Just want to put this out there, if you think spicy is scum fine, but please dont blue hunt, and if you do blue hunt dont post who you think is blue all that does is help scum not town. Yeah...Xzavier is not going to flip scum On June 26 2013 02:19 Onegu wrote: To be honest I dont care who is killed if Xzavier flips town my vote will go on aquanim and if he flips scum I will vote Spicydinosaur. My current read on Xzavier is null with scum reads on alakaslam and aqua. With every post Alakaslam makes he looks more and more like noob scum to me. Don't vote for Stim: On June 26 2013 02:21 Onegu wrote: And stim played this exact way last noob game and was VT, I see him as VT this game and his lynch acomplishes nothing. First mention of LoneMeow, although very non-commital: On June 27 2013 00:47 Onegu wrote: I still feel he is scum but I cannot prove it at this point, my thought process was if xzavier flipped scum to lead a bandwaggon on him but that isnt possible it is looking like. My scum team is Aqua Firm And either Alakaslam or lonemeow as the third leaning more toward alakaslam as the third. Is trying to make a case on Aqua for the sake of it? On June 27 2013 02:59 Onegu wrote: I had no qualms about voteing aqua and was planning on voteing him today until the firmtofu case came up. As I said it didnt matter to me who was killed because I had a scum read on Aqua and a null read on xzavier but depending on how he fliped would focus my day 2 targets, I have said all along I want to lynch Aqua and still do. I cannot make a good case on him but I am trying and keep looking things over. But saying I didnt vote him because I am scum buddies is dumb, If not tofu today and it is between anyone and aqua my vote will go on aqua. But at this point firmtofu I can make a much stronger case on him. Still think's Aqua is scum... On June 27 2013 14:40 Onegu wrote: No I am just looking for more reads. Firm aqua are my first 2 reads, my third read is still on alakaslam but isnt as strong as the first 2 And still......has a scum read on Aqua On June 28 2013 01:38 Onegu wrote: Actually yes I dont mind which of you is lynched as I have strong scum reads on both of you. First time that he actually mentions Spicy? On June 29 2013 01:33 Onegu wrote: Hz thought he confirmed it I thought he confimed it and spicy thought he confirmed it, he used some really round about ways talking about it. Town read on me still? On June 29 2013 03:04 Onegu wrote: I had a null to slight town read on him, I only comented on the case on him to say it was illogical but the points on aqua were good points. I had very little interaction with him at all. This one requires a lot more analysing. At a guess, I would say it makes Aqua more likely town. Not sure what else. On June 29 2013 03:30 Onegu wrote: Scum reads: Alakaslam FirmTofu And either Lonemeow or Stim Null reads Aqua, I still want to say he is scum but he is my main defender so I do not know. Townreads Hz Hurricane Spicy If I am lynched today you have to lynch Alakaslam first as he will be confirmed scum, second look at the liar who has lied to people 2 times now to get the vote he wants, then you have to decide between stim, lone and aqua useing your best ability and who is still alive after night kills. | ||
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I am actually starting to think that I have got this all very wrong and that both the lurkers are scum. How on earth am I going to prove them town? | ||
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There are 2 scum. Your options are: hzflank, Aquanim, SpicyDinosaur and LoneMeow. Who are your picks? | ||
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On July 03 2013 05:43 StiMaDDict wrote: Then why the fuck did he ask me whether he should claim or not... *making me look stupid and shit *grumble *grumble He wanted to know if you think he should claim. In reality he did not need to as it was possible for us all to work it out by ourselves (all the pieces of the puzzle were there). | ||
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