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On July 23 2013 04:14 FiveTouch wrote: Welcome to the game REDVILLAIN SCUM!!!! Don't call me scum until I've read my role PM. And before I do that I will be reading the whole thread. So I shall post soon. | ||
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I'm town...for the bajillionth time in a row... Going to read everyone's filters instead of reading the thread like a story. Should be easier. | ||
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On July 23 2013 04:26 FiveTouch wrote: You'll miss important parts of the story doing it that way, but I trust you'll fill in the blanks before forming conclusions. RIGHT CORA?!?!? I will come back and ask questions to players after reading filters. Also, to the two hydras: Sign your name on every single damn post. I don't care if you are the same person posting more than one time in succession. If you are town, you will make things easier on everyone by signing your posts as a hydra. Thank you. | ||
Corazon
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-TG should've been lynched D1. Like seriously. His game has been ridiculously scummy and he should've been lynched for it. -Getmoript needs to stop arguing with everyone. While I applaud them for posting a lot and trying to move things forward, they are borderline creating chaos in the game. I'm leaning a bit towards scum with them, but I need to see more because Geript is playing very rash and emotional while WoS is being more moderate and even-keel. -DrH did cause a no-lynch so I think that should against him, but he should not be instantly beheaded for it. That being said, I really do want to hear more from him. -Everyone has been too spammy in their posts, and there has not been enough analysis. Only 2 or 3 players have been providing good analysis on a constant basis. In an environment like this, scum are going to thrive. Everyone needs to step up so scum have nowhere to hide. If anyone wants opinions on specific things, just ask. | ||
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And btw, since a hydra that Marv is a part of thinks I'm scum, it's obvious that we are both town. just saying... | ||
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On July 23 2013 07:01 FiveTouch wrote: So what are you saying Cora, that you actually lied about reading 30 pages of filters? That you didn't actually read filters at all, and made up some shit just to put in the thread? Or that you only read a FEW filters (the people you actually mentioned) and that's all you could come up with? Or are you saying that I shouldn't even expect you to have read ANY of the filters by now anyway? What are you saying exactly Cora? Besides, marv has opted out of reading you (for reasons I'm sure you're familiar with considering your last post) so if you think you can, convince me you're town. As it stands, I think I'm pushing your lynch tomorrow otherwise. -VE Oh I'm glad marv has decided to opt out of reading me. Respect to him for that. What I am saying is that I tried to digest 35 pages of filters in one hour and that was the major things I could pull up. If you were expecting a novel out of me, then I'm sorry to disappoint you. I will do my best tomorrow to get you guys to not lynch me. Right now I am distracted with SC practice and real life things. That's just how it goes. Don't write me off as scum just yet, bro. | ||
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I did mention you in my opening post. You haven't done jack shit all game, along with most of the players in this game. | ||
Corazon
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Onegu's claim is really dumb as well. I'm not entirely sure what we can do about it though. If he is vigi, we really shouldn't lynch him because he is important to the town. On the other hand, if he isn't scum he should die N2. It's really a good thing for town that he claimed because if he dies tonight we see his flip, but if he doesn't he is probably scum. Oats hasn't done much this game, and if people want to lynch him, I'd be on board with that. | ||
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On July 23 2013 22:22 Oatsmaster wrote: Lol cora. Lol. Tell me who is taking TG as town for the RB. Tell me how I havent done much and is scum, you have done less than me but you arent scum are you. arguably JJD/TAA has done less than me. Why am I scum but not the other 2/3 dudes? Why would Onegu get killed when there is more than a 50/50 chance he shoots town? Ok lets talk about TG nolynch. Assuming there are no 3p, town still gets 3 mislynches. So basically we get 120 hours to decide on a lynch. If TG was town, this time is way to long to just gift to town IMO. Therefore TG is scum. EZPZ. Well since we aren't voting him, I'm assuming you guys are saying he is town. Oats, I've been in this game for about 18 hours, 11 of which I was sleeping. You have been in this game for 80 hours and you have not done anything. And what if Onegu is lying about his claim? Did that ever come into your mind? | ||
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On July 23 2013 22:42 Oatsmaster wrote: Lol Cora. Lol. Have you finished reading the thread yet even Cora? are you fucking stupid? Oats if you're going to act like an asshole, you might as well just not say anything at all. | ||
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Lets get this asshole out of the game and actually get somewhere. | ||
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On July 23 2013 22:49 FiveTouch wrote: Does asshole = mafia? The fact that Oats hasn't done much this game and the fact that he is blaming me for the same thing is both hypocritical and fake scum-hunting. So yes. | ||
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On July 23 2013 22:52 FiveTouch wrote: Oats by now has done more than Tangeng, TAA so far, wouldn't you say? Do you believe Onegu? For now, I'm more likely to believe Onegu being vigilante than Tangeng being roleblocked. I never said anything about lyncing Onegu now. Everyone is just trying to believe claims too easily, and it's a silly thing for the town to be doing. | ||
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On July 23 2013 22:58 Oatsmaster wrote: Hey Cora, tell me How this is = to this Who says I have done less than you? | ||
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On July 23 2013 22:58 FiveTouch wrote: I don't think everyone was believing Onegu's claim easily at all, rather expressing disbelief at the fact it occurred in the first place. If you think Tangeng is scummy as hell and you're not sure about his roleblock, shouldn't you be voting for him? Actually speaking of that, I don't actually remember any reasons why he is scummy as shit. What are your reasons? ~marv I'd like to ask you the same question. Do you think Tangeng is scummy? I think he is scummy because all of his arguments have been really weak, and he hasn't done much analysis or anything to establish his townies during the entire game. He should've been lynched D1, and the fact that he wasn't is really a fail for town in my eyes. | ||
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On July 23 2013 23:13 TanGeng wrote: @cDgCorazon I still got 40 hours. I know. Start doing things to change our minds about you. | ||
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On July 24 2013 01:37 getmoript wrote: K I have too many scumreads right now. Might have to downgrade some. Sadly, it seems as though Oats might not be scum at all---he for whatever reason just likes to play like shit as town every other game. Scum = TAA/TG/ mebbe Cora. Oats picked this out as well bu Cora's reaction to the TG rb is unnatural. WIFOM WIFOM WIFOM WIFOM WIFOM WIFOM WIFOM. May not be the simplest plan, but I've been a part of a lot of games lately where scum RB is not directly used on town for whatever reason. Thoughts, gentlemen? Oh also Onegu claim too dumb to be scum, sorry buddy. -Wave Yeah.... | ||
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On July 24 2013 02:05 getmoript wrote: Marv isn't the only one who suspects you, honey. Lets get some comments on stuff that's not you, k? Thought on mine + 5T's recent conversation? Well I'm guessing it was the conversation you had on page 48 about DrH. I definitely think DrH just kind of gave up and ragequit. I think all of the shit that he said had happened to him was just made worse by 5T (idk which part of the hydra said it) calling him scum for missing the vote. It makes sense that DrH didn't wait around for the night deadline to make a shot was because he just wanted to quit playing and waiting 24 hours to shoot 5T (or whoever) was not something he wanted. All in all, it's null and I think we should judge Onegu based on what he has done so far, which is back a really silly claim with decent posting and have a sense of direction. | ||
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On July 24 2013 02:31 JarJarDrinks wrote: Am I supposed to respond to this? You'd support a JJD lynch but u haven't looked @ my filter yet??? Do you think I'm scum? Way to overreact. You're just sitting there and playing the victim instead of asking 5T why he thinks you are scum. 5T didn't say he wanted to lynch you 100%, he was just suspicious of you and he wanted to look at your filter more before making a decision on you. | ||
Corazon
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On July 24 2013 02:42 JarJarDrinks wrote: Pretty sure it's implied in my post that I want to know why he thinks I'm scum. He says he'd support a lynch of me and writes my name in red even though he didn't read my filter. Why even post that? We were all over oats for basically the same thing. He has to have a reason for thinking I'm scum. Why not post whatever it is? Cause he wants to make sure he is right about his suspicions before he goes off and says something against you. | ||
Corazon
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On July 24 2013 02:55 JarJarDrinks wrote: Note what I posted that 5T bolded. Very nice. I must have missed that when I read the thread the first time. Any response 5T? | ||
Corazon
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On July 23 2013 22:15 cDgCorazon wrote: In all honesty, the TanGeng RB claim doesn't really add up for me. ? | ||
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On July 24 2013 04:58 TanGeng wrote: I'm not sure why I sucked out a RB on night 1. If scum RB, would scum put me on a blue role? If town RB, what does it mean? In small games, is a town RB feasible? I love how your thought about the scum RB'ing you is completely in line with town sentiment, yet your thought about the town RB'ing you is complete setup speculation and WIFOM. There's literally no explanation why anyone would RB you. I really don't buy your RB claim. | ||
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On July 24 2013 05:31 FiveTouch wrote: I buy it. I think TG is town and scum are setting him up with the RB. Think about it. If he's scum, why would he claim RB after claiming VT on D1? That doesn't make any sense from a scum perspective, because he'd have to answer weird questions like "Why would scum roleblock you if you claimed VT?" With that kind of thinking, you could say that a scum player who was almost lynched could think of that and claim RB to have someone else come to that conclusion, giving that person a town read on the scum player. If you want to play the WIFOM game, I'd love to play along too... | ||
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On July 24 2013 06:14 FiveTouch wrote: It's not like you even replaced in Cora, Zeph had literally done nothing. LOL No it's a problem I have where if I don't experience a game of mafia from the beginning, I can't play well. I cannot read 30 pages of posts in one sitting and catch up to the game. I'm sorry. | ||
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On July 24 2013 06:15 FiveTouch wrote: No, that's not how it works, Cora. Just play the game ~marv Marv, you've thought me scum in every single game we have played together. I've been town every single time. It's the exact same thing this game. I promise you. | ||
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On July 24 2013 06:18 getmoript wrote: Fuck it. I'm tired of your shit. I'm detective. TAA is red. Go vote. Oh really? That's interesting... | ||
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On July 24 2013 06:20 FiveTouch wrote: How do you like this claim, Cora? He's lying. I'm a detective. | ||
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On July 24 2013 06:21 FiveTouch wrote: Are you serious? Are you sane? (as in, cop sane) I'm pretty sure I'm sane. I checked myself to check for sanity and it said I came back a "detective" so I'm guessing I must be sane. | ||
Corazon
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On July 24 2013 06:23 FiveTouch wrote: So you're a rolecop cop Corazon? Yep. I don't think the chances of a rolecop and an alignment cop being in the same 12-player setup are very good. Do you? | ||
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On July 24 2013 06:25 FiveTouch wrote: Why did you check yourself? (sorry about all the questions, just need to be super clear on this) So I could see if I was sane or not. I didn't have too many clear scum reads, so I just decided to check myself for sanity because it hinted in my role that there was a chance I wasn't sane. | ||
Corazon
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On July 24 2013 06:27 FiveTouch wrote: I think the chances of a rolecop checking himself for insanity is....far fetched. Everyone vote Corazon because he's a liar. -VE My pm didn't say I was a rolecop specifically. It just says I was an investigator, it wasn't specific on whether I was alignment based or role based. | ||
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On July 24 2013 06:33 getmoript wrote: Why does my sanity even matter? He's objectively scummy on top of a red check. Who cares. Because having two sane cops in an 12 player setup is ridiculously town favored. | ||
Corazon
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On July 24 2013 06:36 TanGeng wrote: Why did you check yourself cDgCorazon? On July 24 2013 06:27 cDgCorazon wrote: So I could see if I was sane or not. I didn't have too many clear scum reads, so I just decided to check myself for sanity because it hinted in my role that there was a chance I wasn't sane. | ||
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On July 24 2013 06:46 FiveTouch wrote: VE and I are just trying to bash out Cora's counterclaim in the QT. Not sure we're entirely agreeing :p ~marv I hope you believe me Marv <3 | ||
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On July 24 2013 06:52 FiveTouch wrote: Corazon, VE is bang on. Do you think getmoript is mafia? ~marv Well I don't think the chances of having 2 cops and a vigilante for town and only a roleblocker for mafia is very fair. Someone has to be lying. I can believe Onegu, which leaves Getmoript and TG's claims. There's a chance they could both be lying. Idk why Getmoript would claim to get TAA killed. What would he say if he was wrong about TAA? | ||
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On July 24 2013 07:00 marvellosity wrote: It's like getmoript said. Go look at TAA's reaction, and tell me that's not a direct mafiaclaim? ~marv The fact that he said that and left is even worse. So then is TG lying about RB? What else could scum possibly have to counter 2 sane cops and a vigilante? | ||
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On July 24 2013 07:27 getmoript wrote: Seems non-towny, but I don't think it makes him scum. Like the amount of time to process reasoning to fake claim there as scum is inordinate to me. Looks instinctive. I'd guess town but I think Cora's fakeclaimed before in NMM37 I was town in NMM37...what the hell are you talking about? | ||
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On July 24 2013 07:46 getmoript wrote: Weren't you scum in one of the newbies? Or was I thinking of someone else? Like one of the ones before the one where we played, I think scum won after you got lynched for no good reason. NMM 33...me and 2 inactive scum and I survived until I had to fakeclaim rb cause I'm dumb. | ||
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##Unvote I'm going either Getmoript or TAA. | ||
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On July 24 2013 21:48 Oatsmaster wrote: I wanna lynch cora cause he makes me mad. Tmr maybe? That's really silly. Try again. | ||
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On July 24 2013 21:49 Oatsmaster wrote: delurk city. So why do you wanna lynch me cora? A lynch for you would get rid of one of the players who are holding this town back from scumhunting. Since we obviously have 3 lynches to find scum, we might as well use at least one of them on someone who is promoting a bad town atmosphere. | ||
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On July 24 2013 22:10 FiveTouch wrote: ... Then why replace in? still marv. Cause I figured I could catch up to the game. But I can't. And now none of my opinions matter because I've already claimed and you are all going to vote for me if TAA flips scum so... | ||
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On July 24 2013 21:48 Oatsmaster wrote: I wanna lynch cora cause he makes me mad. Tmr maybe? | ||
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On July 24 2013 22:17 FiveTouch wrote: Because you don't lynch people for saying stupid shit. Saying stupid shit is not a scumtell (necessarily). In fact, often quite the opposite, as i'm sure you're aware. It's a lot more than just plain stupid. It shows that Oats is trying to create chaos within the town and get town divided on a lynch target, which would make for another no-lynch which would basically make us lose. It also shows that he is not caring about the vote or who is actually going to be lynched, which is also ridiculously scummy. | ||
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On July 24 2013 22:21 FiveTouch wrote: It literally causes no chaos, other than the chaos you're making it create. It's a random, stupid throwaway comment that can be ignored, and then it's just one more silly post to ignore. And it doesn't show those things at all. It only shows those things if he's genuinely serious and pursues it, of which there is no evidence. Come on Cora, you're pulling a TAA from Day 1. Well you guys have been talking about lynching Oats all game, how come you haven't done it yet? Seriously, the reason that we are in this situation is because everyone talks so much about who they are going to vote for, yet they don't do it. I'm not going to hipster vote because it's majority lynch. I'm down with lynching TAA now, and then Oats later. Unless someone wants to reverse that order. | ||
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On July 24 2013 22:25 FiveTouch wrote: Because we don't think he's mafia anymore. The reason we're in this situation is that almost the whole town lurked for Day 1, not because people talked too much about who they were going to vote for. Why anyone would even consider lynching Oats today is completely beyond me. So we are voting TAA, thats what it looks like. And even if so, what are we going to do for the next 18 or so hours? Twiddle our thumbs? | ||
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On July 24 2013 22:29 FiveTouch wrote: Whatever you'd normally like to do? Ask people questions, make cases if you like, etc. I'm sure you don't need my permission to get things moving along if you so wish ^_^ I'm not entirely sure what I want to say. I'm really just waiting for TAA's flip because then it will put our voting patterns down one way or another. The road ahead of us is kind of defined really well at this moment. | ||
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On July 24 2013 22:30 Onegu wrote: Cora what are your thoughts on jkirby? The first thing I noticed yet again is that his filter is only two pages. At this point in the game, everyone should have a decent sized filter. His vote on Oats was such a ridiculous sheep vote. There was literally no new reasoning behind his vote. His N1 consists of speculating about Zeph, and then he just goes back and votes for Oats and disappears. It really looks scummy because he missed the Oats wagon falling apart and now he feels like he has to nonsensically tunnel Oats to maintain credibility. I'd love to hear what he has to say on the 20 pages of thread that has elapsed since he has posted. | ||
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On July 24 2013 22:39 FiveTouch wrote: Eh, does this give you pause for thought about anything? I just may have my first read of the game =P | ||
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On July 24 2013 22:31 Onegu wrote: And firmtofu for that matter. I like how FirmTofu has been playing this game. In the sea of players who aren't contributing well enough (myself included), he has stood out as someone who has a sense of direction and is actively trying to figure out the game. There's nothing that rings alarm bells to me. He's shown that he cared about the lynch D1, and he's caring about the lynch D2. He's someone that I want to see stick around. | ||
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On July 24 2013 23:02 Oatsmaster wrote: FT is the town RB. Jkirby/possibly JJD and cora are the rest of my scumteam. Very nice Oats. Now start playing. | ||
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On July 24 2013 23:13 Oatsmaster wrote: Do you ever wonder why I dont seem to like you? Well Oats, I had this same problem with Marv. We would always see each other as scum and the arguments would get really bad and we would start acting like assholes to each other. But then we decided to be adults and respectfully disagree with each other. You just start calling me stupid and not being nice to me and you start this spiral of hate and bad language. It's just a game. Just because you have a scum read on me doesn't mean you have to say I'm stupid and saying mean comments like what you have been doing. I don't know why you don't like me, but this problem is something that started with you, and needs to end with you. | ||
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On July 25 2013 05:22 FiveTouch wrote: As much shit as is in this thread, it's amazing that I've watched two hours tick by on that countdown in the last post with no new posts. Like, we only BARELY have a lynch right now too. Like....come on people. Where are jrkirby and Corazon? -VE What do you want? | ||
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On July 25 2013 05:33 getmoript wrote: I want you to catch up in the thread and post your top 2 (non-TAA) scum targets. Jrkirby and Oats | ||
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My preoccupation with the roleblock is that he would be a terrible choice for both town and scum RB. Plus the amount of blues that we have don't add up. Someone has to be lying, and I think it's TAA and TG. | ||
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On July 25 2013 05:53 FiveTouch wrote: So you think TG is lying, but kirby and Oats are mafia? Riddle me that one. ~marv Well TG's claim is tied into TAA's flip. If he actually is RB and he blocked TG then obviously the claim is true. 4 blues in a 12 player game and no other active powers have been used by scum other than a possible role block. Does that add up to you? Because it doesn't looked balanced to me. | ||
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On July 25 2013 05:58 FiveTouch wrote: Surely that means then that in fact you don't believe TG is lying, because if you believed he was lying you wouldn't be voting TAA, right? ~marv Do you want me to hipster vote? | ||
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On July 25 2013 05:58 FiveTouch wrote: Surely that means then that in fact you don't believe TG is lying, because if you believed he was lying you wouldn't be voting TAA, right? ~marv I don't believe TG's claim and therefore do not believe TAA's claim. So I have no clue what you mean by that. | ||
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On July 25 2013 06:02 FiveTouch wrote: I don't give a fuck where you vote, because we have a comfortable majority. You're genuinely telling me you think TAA is telling the truth and Tangeng is lying? ~marv Look at the voting thread. | ||
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On July 25 2013 06:04 FiveTouch wrote: But Cora, you said you think they're both lying. It doesn't make sense or add up. You need to explain this to me like I'm a small child. googoo gaga WIFOM ALERT It's possible that TAA claimed RB in order to make TG's claim of being roleblocked to look true. I see the validity of TG's claim as being reliant on the validity of TAA's claim. If one is lying, I think they are both lying. If one was telling the truth, I think they are both telling the truth. The claims are tied into each other and I don't believe either of them. | ||
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On July 25 2013 06:07 FiveTouch wrote: Proposition 1: you think TAA is lying and will flip mafia. Therefore your vote is on TAA Result 1: TAA flips mafia. According to what you wrote here, this makes TG a liar too. TAA is lying about roleblocking TG, TG is lying about being roleblocked. Lovely. Proposition 2: jrkirby and Oats are the remaining mafia, not TG. ???? My scum team is TAA, TG, and jrkirby. If TAA and TG turn out to be town, I'd look at my scum team being jrkirby, Oats, and another player. | ||
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On July 25 2013 06:10 FiveTouch wrote: But NOT Getmoript. Just for clarity sake. In spite of you attesting multiple times that either TAA or Getmoript are lying, Getmoript isn't even on your radar, is that what you're saying? -VE Oh shit I forgot about Getmoript lol. I'm not sure. If TAA flips town, then I would look at him as well. The problem is that we weren't sure about our sanity and that Getmoript could have made a mistake in claiming and shouting out TAA is scum (which would be something Geript would do <3). It's not very scum-like to randomly claim blue just to get one person killed. That is what would confuse me about his claim if TAA flipped town. | ||
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On July 25 2013 06:14 getmoript wrote: Illogical or just scum.... Thinking you might be scum based on possible outcomes of this lynch does not make me scum... | ||
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On July 25 2013 06:14 FiveTouch wrote: What about randomly claiming blue just to counterclaim someone claiming a redcheck? Does that make much sense to you sir? -VE Yeah well I've fucked up a lot this game. Needless to say. | ||
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On July 25 2013 06:19 FiveTouch wrote: I mean don't get me wrong - I'm not one to criticize the manner with which one claims their role. But frankly if TAA flips scum I'm IMMEDIATELY voting for you Cora. Because you instantly claimed, which looks to me like you're trying to save your scumbuddy TAA by shedding doubt on the cop with a redcheck. Instantly Cora - like, if TAA flips scum YOU are the vig shot tonight do you realize this? You guys have said so much stuff and have not followed through on it, I don't believe anything anymore. | ||
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You're telling me now that I'm the vig shot, but no one is going to shoot me. Because we have the same kind of town atmosphere still that let TG survive D1. | ||
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On July 25 2013 06:23 FiveTouch wrote: The town atmosphere now and on day 1 is poles apart. ~marv Bring on the vig shot. I'll be sitting in my house all of N2. I dare Onegu to bring his gun and shoot me. I'm confident because it won't happen. | ||
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On July 25 2013 06:29 FiveTouch wrote: I don't think he's playing to it heavily at all. jrkirby is actually the only sensible shot to take. He's not going to post enough to give us a good read probably, and there's a reasonably high chance he's mafia. ~marv See VE. You say I'm going to get shot by a vigi but no one will agree to that. Not even your other half will agree to shooting me. | ||
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On July 25 2013 06:31 FiveTouch wrote: I know, I'm working on that as we speak. Thanks for your concern bro. Our domestic issues are none of your concern. XD You guys should've played speed date mafia. I think you need to see other people. | ||
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On July 25 2013 06:33 FiveTouch wrote: I KNOW HE STILL LOVES ME CORA SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH HE SAID HE'S SORRY OKAY? I know a good judge who could split your possessions 50-50. Like Marv can post on 5T Monday through Wednesday, and VE can post Thursday through Saturday. Sunday can be alternated between the two of you. We could start with Marv this Sunday and then VE the next Sunday. | ||
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On July 25 2013 06:38 cDgCorazon wrote: I know a good judge who could split your possessions 50-50. Like Marv can post on 5T Monday through Wednesday, and VE can post Thursday through Saturday. Sunday can be alternated between the two of you. We could start with Marv this Sunday and then VE the next Sunday. Unless you want to go through couples counseling. | ||
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On July 25 2013 07:12 FiveTouch wrote: It's not bad for any reason. The fact that jrkirby isn't posting is totally irrefutable, and there's no reason he's town, and I can and have come up with reasons TG is town, as has VE. Not my fault you don't get it as usual. If you think TG is town, why are you voting for TAA? | ||
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On July 25 2013 06:07 cDgCorazon wrote: WIFOM ALERT It's possible that TAA claimed RB in order to make TG's claim of being roleblocked to look true. I see the validity of TG's claim as being reliant on the validity of TAA's claim. If one is lying, I think they are both lying. If one was telling the truth, I think they are both telling the truth. The claims are tied into each other and I don't believe either of them. Along that line, I believe that they are either town together or scum together. Apparently you disagree. | ||
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On July 25 2013 07:25 FiveTouch wrote: I can't believe you're referencing something you announced with "WIFOM Alert" and asking us why we're voting someone based on this wifom. Mind = blown ~marv I never said I was using my brain. =P | ||
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On July 25 2013 12:55 Onegu wrote: I wont be around for deadline today, but I doubt we are getting off of TAA so it doesnt matter much. Me too. I'm going to bed. | ||
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On July 25 2013 22:44 TanGeng wrote: Ok, got enough time to follow up with my reasons on Corazon. I feel the highlight of Corazon as scum is waffling on the TheAwesomeAll vote and considering getmoript and then forgetting his suspicion of getmoript a day later. + Show Spoiler + On July 24 2013 12:15 cDgCorazon wrote: Ok this is really stupid...a town RB, 2 invest, and a vigilante. Someone is lying. ##Unvote I'm going either Getmoript or TAA. On July 25 2013 05:57 cDgCorazon wrote: Well TG's claim is tied into TAA's flip. If he actually is RB and he blocked TG then obviously the claim is true. 4 blues in a 12 player game and no other active powers have been used by scum other than a possible role block. Does that add up to you? Because it doesn't looked balanced to me. On July 25 2013 06:08 cDgCorazon wrote: My scum team is TAA, TG, and jrkirby. If TAA and TG turn out to be town, I'd look at my scum team being jrkirby, Oats, and another player. From this, my interpretation is that the doubt about TAA/getmoript wasn't genuine as Cora sort of didn't actually run through the TAA as town scenario. In the middlepost, Cora sort of talks about how 4 blues in town would be unbalance and in such a situation the most suspicious blue claim would have to be getmoript. Forgetting about getmoript when asked to name his town TAA scenario doesn't add up for me. Lastly, there's a bit that I feel could be like a "surrender post" after the TAA outing: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19269044 Circumstantially: Without a town RBer claiming, I'm more or less left with the conclusion that scum RB'd me N1 after my D1 VT claim and near mislynch, but I'm still wrapping my head around this play. A disorganized scum team with one inactive player barely joining the team before the Night Action deadline could have lead to such a decision playing out. This case is really so terrible. There's no way I "waffled" on the TAA vote. I didn't unvote him several times, and I started playing the second half of D2 like TAA was going to be the lynch. I don't understand where you are going with that. Secondly, I did not call into question Getmoript's claim after TAA had claimed scum RB. While it doesn't really make sense to have 2 investigators, I'm more likely to believe Getmoript now that he was right about TAA. The roles look a bit more balanced with scum having a RB. And then the last point you made is you trying to fish for reasons to make me look like scum. Try harder. | ||
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I still like my theory that TAA would roleblock TG in order to give him some more town cred. TG's play has reflected a bit more in this because he is trying to post more and actually be useful, but a lot of it seems forced to me. | ||
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On July 25 2013 22:58 Oatsmaster wrote: >I'm more likely to believe Getmoript now that he was right about TAA. lol wtf cora I meant his claim. There could be crazy shenanigans going on and he could not be invest, but he nailed TAA so that's good enough for me. | ||
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On July 25 2013 23:04 Oatsmaster wrote: Your wording is really careful though Cora How so? | ||
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On July 25 2013 23:06 Oatsmaster wrote: Your wording is really careful though cora. Yeah if you're not going to tell me how it is "careful", then I'm just going to ignore you. kthxbye | ||
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On July 25 2013 23:10 Oatsmaster wrote: double posted whoops So like wtf is 'more likely to believe' instead of "germoript is totes town" Its so uncommital, there are no strong words like confirmed or whatever. It would be appropriate if getmoript pushed a lynch and it was scum but he claimed cop and a red check. How more confirmed can you get? Because to write someone off as 100% town is silly. Getmoript could still be scum by claiming invest and just saying TAA was scum in order to give him major town cred. While I don't really believe that it was a bus by Getmoript, the possibility is there. I'm not going to call him "totes town", but I do believe that he is invest or at the least town. | ||
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On July 25 2013 23:16 TanGeng wrote: Oh come on, Cora. The case is all about not whether you believe Getmoript now. It was whether or not you were actually considering TAA as town/scum scenarios. I'm saying you didn't consider the TAA as town because you knew it wasn't going to happen. How am I supposed to consider TAA town when his response to Getmoript claiming and calling him scum was: On July 24 2013 06:21 TheAwesomeAll wrote: claiming detective instead of making a case is cheating | ||
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On July 25 2013 23:17 Oatsmaster wrote: MAJOR TOWN CRED. again wtf? So geript might not be invest but like confirmed town. Explain. Holy shit Oats you're twisting my words. I'm pretty sure Getmoript is invest and town but I'm not going to rule out the possibility that he fake claimed. ARE YOU FUCKING HAPPY NOW | ||
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On July 25 2013 23:23 FiveTouch wrote: I could make the case against Corazon in my sleep, it's just whether I believe it or not. Or whether the other player in your hydra believes it. | ||
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On July 25 2013 23:24 FiveTouch wrote: The other player in the hydra is the one pushing it on me, dear. May we go back to the townies seeing each other as scum thing Marv? <3 | ||
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On July 25 2013 23:27 TanGeng wrote: What the fuck. What took you so long to vote TAA!? This crap is 6 hours later: [spoiler] AND You're the 2nd to last vote on the guy. Cause it was only a formality. TAA was going to get lynched. | ||
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On July 25 2013 23:28 FiveTouch wrote: The problem is, Cora, that for me to read you town I have to read you as exceptionally weird and slightly brainless for this game. Something I prefer not to do if I can help it. Aww that's so sweet of you Marv <3 But really, look deep down inside you and you will realize that I can be town and use my brain at the same time. | ||
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On July 25 2013 23:33 FiveTouch wrote: No no, that's the thing. I know you can be town and use your brain, which is why this game is puzzling. That hurts me, deep down inside </3 | ||
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On July 25 2013 23:38 FiveTouch wrote: Why does it hurt? Do you want me to pull up your own posts where you admit to being silly this game? Well the problem is that you think I'm being brainless (which I cannot deny) and yet you think I am scum. That contradicts your first post. | ||
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On July 25 2013 23:42 FiveTouch wrote: I think you're more likely to make mistakes as mafia, and you've made mistakes this game. It's whether the mistakes are because you're having an off-game, or because you're mafia. Have you read NMM 33? I played soooooooooo differently in that game from every other game. You should also realize that this is the first time I replaced into a game, and you should know that I have problems reading every single post as town. | ||
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On July 26 2013 01:34 FirmTofu wrote: Why don't you check whichever of the two (jrkirby/TanGeng) that Onegu does not shoot? Well if I don't know who Onega is going to shoot, how can I figure out which one to check? | ||
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I want to see each of you explain why the other would be a better vig target tonight. Please and thank you. | ||
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On July 26 2013 03:38 getmoript wrote: Don't shoot kirby tonight. Guy's town. Marv and/or VE (I forget which of you were pushing this) I disagree with you about TG/Tofu. I don't necessarily think either are town and think either would be a good shot tonight. Take Oats off the list, fine. Shot should be one of Cora/TG/Tofu. No one else. I like austin's idea where we shoot into where we're likely to get the most information. -Wave Why is jrkirby town? That does not make any sense to me. You said earlier that he's simply lynchbait, but I disagree with that. | ||
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And then the other one finish it off and then write /dunked You're welcome. | ||
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On July 26 2013 06:13 FiveTouch wrote: I find it exceedingly scummy that you have no comment on the actual discussion that's occurring right now, choosing only to chime in on the bit of fluff that happened at the end Cora. Like, you're my #1 target tomorrow if you're not dead tonight. And it's not because I have unreasonable expectations of your ability to replace into games or whatever tripe you were on about earlier, it's because you're doing scummy shit and I think you're scum. How many times are you going to threaten me and not follow through on it? | ||
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On July 26 2013 06:32 getmoript wrote: Look man. You've claimed a roll; you're a lynch not a shot. I'd prefer if you spent time making big posts on who you think is scum and why. Look at my filter. I've already made posts on why I think jrkirby and TG are scum. Read them. | ||
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On July 26 2013 06:33 FiveTouch wrote: I haven't had the chance it's still night time. IT'S STILL NIGHNIGHT TIME BRA! You voted for me D2, threatened to lynch me after unvoting me, told Onegu to shoot me, told Onegu not to shoot me, and now this. You haven't followed through on shit bro. | ||
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On July 26 2013 06:37 FiveTouch wrote: OH I FOLLOW THROUGH ON SHIT! RIGHT INTO YOUR FACE BRO! Hi VE. You seem a bit mad. But really, I'm not getting shot and you guys aren't going to lynch me. You guys won't follow through on it. | ||
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On July 25 2013 22:59 cDgCorazon wrote: First of all, people are calling for my lynch or vigi shot. Don't waste your breath. It's not going to happen. There are people who have played way scummier than me and you all know that. Are you really going to lynch me and turn a blind eye to TG, jrkirby, and Oats? You guys know that it's bad town play to do that. Don't waste anything on me. I still like my theory that TAA would roleblock TG in order to give him some more town cred. TG's play has reflected a bit more in this because he is trying to post more and actually be useful, but a lot of it seems forced to me. | ||
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On July 26 2013 06:39 FiveTouch wrote: Corazon's score on the cockometer is rising rapidly You better put this in the case on me you're never going to make. | ||
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On July 26 2013 06:45 FiveTouch wrote: Oh you have to vote for me now after making that =P | ||
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On July 26 2013 07:06 FiveTouch wrote: He's only about here for me. It's actually more amusing to me if he really thinks I'm not going to follow through on this. I really do want him dead, but I'm not mad about it. I guess we will deal with if you guys make the case. | ||
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On July 26 2013 07:10 cDgCorazon wrote: @Onegu. Please dear good shoot TG or jrkirby tonight. | ||
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On July 26 2013 11:20 Oatsmaster wrote: stop tunneling WoS. Stop tunneling Oats. With TG's latest posting and your continued lack of effort, my order of scum reads just might be a-changin'. Brb looking for Oats-TAA interaction. | ||
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On July 24 2013 08:19 Oatsmaster wrote: I want people to go all in and save me. But day 1 isnt me being scummy, its me not even fucking playing. Austin, why cant you tell the difference? Do you think activity is a scumtell? also TAA's post i assume. Yeah lol wtf. After that, he just prods TAA and does not really give TAA any room to defend himself with comments like. On July 24 2013 10:03 Oatsmaster wrote: Doc claims are not as believable as RB claims where RB's are notified. Come on TAA. In all honesty, I don't see Oats actually trying to pressure TAA, it looks like he is just trying to pressure TAA for show and for free town cred. And then he goes back under his rock, only reappearing to tunnel me. On July 24 2013 21:48 Oatsmaster wrote: I wanna lynch cora cause he makes me mad. Tmr maybe? The interaction between Oats and TAA, at least from Oats' side, look really sketch. I'm going to read TAA's filter to see if I can find anything else. | ||
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On July 23 2013 20:09 TheAwesomeAll wrote: rayns post mortem. Main thing rayne was concerned with day 1 was fighting with firmtofu, calling each other scum. Austincc thought rayn was town whereas oats was convinced rayn was scum. Tangeng joined the the rayn is scum train of thought later, but wasnt half as convinced as rayn was. Speculation: id guess oats is town because it would be really stupid to tunnel some townie and then shoot him super speculation: oats might be vigi and shot rayne but i dont know where the mafia killpower went then. Alternatively firmtofu might have been scum who didnt like the pressure. Happy wifom everyone Basically a random town read thrown in there. Coupled with TAA's flip Oats' lack of willingness to interact with TAA or give a read on him, I would say that Oats looks pretty scummy. | ||
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On July 22 2013 15:45 Oatsmaster wrote: Rayn is actually scum. SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM and this: On July 23 2013 15:07 phagga wrote: raynpelikoneet the Ordinary Citizen (Vanilla Townie) don't go together well either. | ||
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On July 26 2013 12:58 cDgCorazon wrote: Artanis[Xp], as a Mafia Goon, has been kicked to the curb by Sylencia! Ohhh shit wrong game. | ||
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On July 26 2013 13:01 austinmcc wrote: Nuh uh. That's a free scum kill. Go us. You're welcome. | ||
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On July 26 2013 13:07 jrkirby wrote: I think you're kinda on the money. But i feel like there's a bunch of people oats never interacted with. If I had one chance to guess remaining scum, I'd say oats and tofu. We ought to kill our food, guys, it's rotting and becoming scummy. I never liked eating oats...they always smelled really bad, like scum. | ||
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On July 26 2013 13:24 Onegu wrote: And I am going to shoot not hold it No. You need to shoot. Don't risk dying with your shot. And if you shot Oats I'd love you forever. | ||
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On July 26 2013 13:31 Onegu wrote: Read what I said again cora Sorry. I panicked and thought you weren't going to shoot. | ||
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On July 26 2013 13:55 Oatsmaster wrote: Sure, shoot the most active poster. Off really sketchy evidence that shows jack shit. Like so what I didnt interact with TAA? How does that make me scum? How does me thinking TAA is flipped scum make me scum? How does me being wrong about Rayn make me scum? I go back under my rock? So IRL reasons dont count i see. Cora, you made a really fucking bad case and if you are town, I am distinctly disappointed. Lol what. You're the most active poster? That's such BS. You're behind 5T, Getmoript, and me (because you have a 36 hour head start on me and I'm only 2 pages behind). I just found it funny how you and TAA stayed out of each other's way until he basically claimed scum and then you shouted a bunch of stuff at him that did not really further discussion, just basically bashing him for what he had done. It looked really forced and really scummy Oats, that's all I'm saying. I'll leave it up to others to form their own opinions, but that is mine. | ||
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On July 26 2013 13:58 Oatsmaster wrote: Well actually if Cora does what he should do, I will not advocate a shot on him. And what should I do? | ||
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On July 26 2013 14:08 Oatsmaster wrote: thats 1 post, and in case you didnt notice, I was parodying geript's post earlier. dumbass. There's a lot of your posts that are silly one-liners that do not help town at all. | ||
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On July 26 2013 14:11 Oatsmaster wrote: There's a lot of your posts that are silly one-liners that do not help town at all. Hey looks like I can post very generalized statements about you too without any evidence to say how that makes you scum. Cool. Whatever you say Oats. Getting in a bitch fight with you is not going to help town. | ||
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On July 26 2013 01:28 cDgCorazon wrote: I'm checking JJD tonight. He's someone I'm not so sure on, so I'd like to get some more info. | ||
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Because I have a better read on you. | ||
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On July 26 2013 14:23 getmoript wrote: @Cora. You need to claim who you're checking last minute too. On July 26 2013 01:28 cDgCorazon wrote: I'm checking JJD tonight. He's someone I'm not so sure on, so I'd like to get some more info. On July 26 2013 01:28 cDgCorazon wrote: I'm checking JJD tonight. He's someone I'm not so sure on, so I'd like to get some more info. On July 26 2013 01:28 cDgCorazon wrote: I'm checking JJD tonight. He's someone I'm not so sure on, so I'd like to get some more info. On July 26 2013 01:28 cDgCorazon wrote: I'm checking JJD tonight. He's someone I'm not so sure on, so I'd like to get some more info. Really bro? | ||
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On July 26 2013 14:23 Oatsmaster wrote: WoS, apparently you have this ideal that a town player should not shitpost? Define "shitpost" and explain how you haven't done that either. | ||
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On July 26 2013 14:28 cDgCorazon wrote: Define "shitpost" and explain how you haven't done that either. Oh shit I can't read. | ||
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On July 26 2013 14:32 getmoript wrote: Hey Cora. Why would you announce who you are checking now to scum a chance to possibly react (if you're town)? If you really are a town rolecop I wouldn't put it past there being some sort of a framer role that could work for roles as well. Because I felt like it. | ||
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On July 26 2013 14:33 Onegu wrote: Oats make your death post. Yes. So. Much. Win. | ||
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On July 26 2013 14:35 Oatsmaster wrote: actually, I think that everyone is putting way too much stock into n1. Oats, you're toxic to town. It's not just your N1 play that is getting you shot, you're not even putting any effort into the game. You're just acting like an asshole and trying to accuse people every which way. It's detrimental to town and it makes you the safest vig shot. To put how you've played into perspective: it's not a complete loss if you get shot by a vigilante who has one bullet and you flip town. | ||
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On July 26 2013 14:47 Oatsmaster wrote: You're acting like an asshole. Why safest vig shot. Why the fuck are you even thinking that way? If you arent sure that someone is scum, then why arent you asking Onegu to withhold the shot? Why do you think I cannot ever be useful day 3? How am i accusing people every which way? How is it detrimental to town? Oats, you're not going to change D3. If you actually cared about helping us scumhunt you would've done so already. You have so many one-liner posts that say "xxx is scum." and nothing else. That isn't helpful to discussion. Everytime I post and you are online, you just harass me in the thread and act like an asshole. That isn't helpful to discussion. I'll be spitting on your grave after the funeral. Goodbye. | ||
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On July 26 2013 14:51 Oatsmaster wrote: 'Helping you scumhunt' Oh right, i forgot we should be holding hands and singing to find out who is scum. I dont harass you in thread, you just say so many things that are bad and shit, its too easy man. Too easy. Why dont you ask why Im treating you like an asshole then? Because you dont care. Ok then Oats. I will play this game with you. Why are you treating me like an asshole? | ||
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On July 26 2013 15:07 jrkirby wrote: Cora, I thought you were a rolecop, not a alignment cop, wtf is this? Bastard hosts. | ||
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On July 26 2013 15:09 jrkirby wrote: I've only played newb games before this. Can someone more experience bring light onto this? When the hosts do shenanigans that screw people over. | ||
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So apparently when I checked myself, I couldn't "objectionably investigate" myself according to the hosts to determine my sanity. They gave me back the only thing I apparently knew; that I was an "investigator". It looked exactly like that. So I thought I was a role cop because I got my role back. And it would make sense to have a role cop and an alignment cop (to not have things overlap). But apparently, I could not check myself for sanity in the first place, which is both really unfair and a waste of a check. So that's what happened. I really don't care if I get modkilled for talking about Host PMs because I've already had one check wasted by them and now I don't know my sanity. | ||
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On July 26 2013 23:51 JarJarDrinks wrote: IDK about this. Why wouldn't you just get a greencheck back? That's what I asked phagga and that's what he told me. | ||
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TG's latest posting has been really good and he has started to make up for his really crappy D1 with decent analysis and is starting to scum hunt more. With his green check and my unknown sanity, I'd like to keep him around. Jrkirby's play still looks very scummy to me. I've done analysis of his filter before, and I came up with this: On July 24 2013 22:37 cDgCorazon wrote: The first thing I noticed yet again is that his filter is only two pages. At this point in the game, everyone should have a decent sized filter. His vote on Oats was such a ridiculous sheep vote. There was literally no new reasoning behind his vote. His N1 consists of speculating about Zeph, and then he just goes back and votes for Oats and disappears. It really looks scummy because he missed the Oats wagon falling apart and now he feels like he has to nonsensically tunnel Oats to maintain credibility. I'd love to hear what he has to say on the 20 pages of thread that has elapsed since he has posted. I'm going to read his filter more and see if my opinions have changed, but he's looking very scummy to me. And then there is JJD, who I don't have a very solid read on, but hasn't really done much in the way of scumhunting either. I'm going to look at his filter some more before making a more definitive judgement on him. | ||
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On July 27 2013 00:00 TanGeng wrote: @cDgCorazon Question for you, too. I'm not entirely convinced by your case. FirmTofu's interaction with TAA is a little bit sketch, but the second part of your case (in which you say he pressures multiple people near the D1 deadline) only shows to me what he cared about the vote and wanted you dead, which would be really ballsy for scum to do. If he was scum, he would not have cared too much if you had died or not. A no-lynch is still really good for scum, which tells me that TAA's efforts to drive your lynch home do not have much scum motivation. | ||
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On July 27 2013 00:15 TanGeng wrote: It's not the driving home of the lynch it's that FirmTofu didn't call out TAA. It is almost as if he knew that TAA wouldn't show up and didn't want to call out TAA and draw attention. FirmTofu also wasn't the only one pushing. He blended in with the WoS angry reaction. The sort of contrast between DocH, jrkirby treatment and the TAA treatment is there. Ok that does look really suspicious. Sorry for failing at reading. I'm still going to look at JJD's and jrkirby's filters to see if they are better lynches. To be honest with you, I think it would be really silly at this point if we lynched outside of you/JJD/jrkirby today. Sorry. | ||
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Who are you looking at for a lynch today? | ||
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On July 27 2013 02:18 FirmTofu wrote: Onegu is a toss-up. Its hard to tell. You mean that you think he could be a scum vig? | ||
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On July 27 2013 03:04 jrkirby wrote: @Corazon: Here's one thing I never got an answer for: Why did you claim? You had no info that would help town. There was no reason to claim. Because my first reaction was that he was lying. | ||
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On July 27 2013 03:04 jrkirby wrote: @Corazon: Here's one thing I never got an answer for: Why did you claim? You had no info that would help town. There was no reason to claim. Also yelling at me for claiming is like beating a dead horse. It's useless. | ||
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When Germoript called TAA scum and claimed, the scum's plan was: To immediately (within 1-2 minutes) counterclaim cop to try and discredit Getmoript And then if that failed: To have TAA claim town RB and claim the RB on TG. Like that's really bad scum play. Really bad. Another giant hole in your case is the fact that I've been throwing jrkirby's name around as a potential vigil shot/lynch for a day and a half now. Do you think we are scum together? Your case wreaks of desperation, and looks more like a scum claim to me than anything else. | ||
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On July 27 2013 05:38 FirmTofu wrote: I don't know. This is what I think is the most likely explanation of the events. Why would I accuse you if I were scum? That would be really bad scum play, too. cDg, what do you think the most likely scumteam is? Who is your #1 lynch target? My #1 lynch target is swinging between jrkirby and you. I'm still mulling it over. | ||
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On July 27 2013 05:51 TanGeng wrote: Personally, I love the Corazon, TAA, and me scum team scenario. Wouldn't that have been hilarious? | ||
Corazon
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On July 27 2013 05:54 FirmTofu wrote: Okay, but what pairings? Obviously, you probably don't think kirby is on my team, so who DO you think is on my team? Also, if kirby is scum, who do you think his teammate is? I'm still thinking about it. We have a long time for a lynch so I will continue to think about it. | ||
Corazon
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Corazon
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And before you say this is the first time I've mentioned jrkirby, read my filter. ##Vote: jrkirby Also Vivax, I'm either scummy or I'm not. You either vote for me or you don't talk about me. All of the points you have brought up have been brought up a million times and I'm still not dead so that should say something to you. | ||
Corazon
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Corazon
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On July 28 2013 06:01 FiveTouch wrote: 3 seems more reasonable than 4 to me..but I honestly can't separate confirmation bias from my perspective so take that for what it's worth. If Cora is scum, that would make Marv and I paranoid, with a naive FT and a sane Getmo. I can see that as likely, and taken with Cora's claim of being an Investigator rather than Detective.... But if Cora is scum and jrk his partner, why not claim a check on him that could keep him from being the lynch today? :/ I still like jrk for scum. If you guys lynch me due to host failure I'm going to be really sad. | ||
Corazon
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On July 28 2013 06:04 FirmTofu wrote: Have you considered that Cora and TG are scum? This is what I think the scumteam is. At first I thought you weren't using your brain, but now you're just being scummy. | ||
Corazon
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Corazon
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On July 28 2013 06:15 FirmTofu wrote: Are you implying that kirby and I are on a team? Kirby, the guy I have been pushing for the majority of this game. Okay. You roll with that. It sounds better then your stupid tunnel on me... | ||
Corazon
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On July 28 2013 06:30 JarJarDrinks wrote: I wish this all would have happened yesterday so there'd be more time to reread stuff to see if I really believe these claims. I'm leaning towards legit because it'd be so outlandish for scum to do something like this, If u 2 guys are telling truths. then there's a fullproof way to see if cora is legit. Submit your own name tonight. According to cora u wont get town or scum, it'll say investigator or whatever it was he said. But if FirmTofu is fakeclaiming, he could just say he got back investigator. | ||
Corazon
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On July 28 2013 06:34 FirmTofu wrote: Instead of all of us wasting our checks... why don't we lynch Cora and see what our cop sanity is based on his flip? that way we'll know whether the two cops can find scum the following night. It's a win-win. Why don't we lynch the fake-claiming scum member? The fact that you only want to lynch me for info is pretty scummy, man. | ||
Corazon
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On July 28 2013 06:35 Vivax wrote: I posted the part I found iffy about Cora's claim alreadz. I also voted, TG. Kirby does look odd and I found him mainly scummy for his position on the TAA wagon, if he is though, then he has been bussed, which fits into the way the DrH slot played, first push him, find a reason to shoot someone else, then push him again. I don't find DrH's slots' reasons for his read 180s very credible. Your DT checks tell us nothing, DT should have stayed silent until he had a chance to check somebody else he was sure of being town. Now we don't know if he's insane or paranoid. Thing is though, Cora's claim timing was scummy and looked like it was designed to save TAA, again, sub-optimal play for a DT to claim in that situation in any case. He should have kept the role secret and watched how the flip went, and then adjust his scumreads accordingly without using his role as a reason, but meh, doesn't really matter anymore. That leads us to Cora still being alive after his claim, I don't know his checks atm, but I've gotten from the thread that he's supposedly sane?That leads us to the question why scum would leave him alive then. Cause of that, I'd probably not lynch him today and consider him for lynch if he survives another night and depending on the check he returns. Lucky for us, he can't claim RB. As conclusion, I stick to the opinion that we should lynch TG for being alive after D1, I'm suspicious of DrH's behavior during that day, and anyone not wanting to lynch TGis banking on the fact that a flipped scum somehow missed the deadline, and not just that, cause TG's lynch wasn't exactly last minute shit. Question: Who replaced Zephirdd? I didn't like his last post during D1. I replaced Zephirdd. How the hell is my claim timing scummy? I claimed literally because I couldn't believe getmoript would have the same role as me. sure it's stupid, but it's not scummy... | ||
Corazon
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On July 28 2013 06:38 FirmTofu wrote: You still haven't explained why you think I'm fake-claiming. I mean, to you, I should be just as likely a fake-claimer as 5T. The only difference being that people might actually vote me. On July 28 2013 06:13 cDgCorazon wrote: BTW, is it weird that FirmTofu's claim only comes after jrkirby gets 2 votes in quick succession? That's pretty convenient... | ||
Corazon
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On July 28 2013 06:39 FirmTofu wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: TanGeng | ||
Corazon
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On July 28 2013 06:44 FirmTofu wrote: So your whole case against me rests on the timing. Holy hypocrisy. You think the timing of your claim isn't scummy when it brought getmoript's claim and accusation of TAA into question, but when I claim as kirby is gaining votes, I'm suddenly scum? I was counter-claiming Getmoript. I literally did it about 2 minutes after his claim. You're saying that you are trying to counter-claim me 2 DAYS after my claim. It's also pretty scummy that you refuse to lynch the guy you've wanted dead for the entire game and would rather vote for me. My question to you is: do you want to lynch Kirby? Why or why not? | ||
Corazon
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On July 28 2013 06:58 Vivax wrote: A few things about you, Cora. - You claim you have a role PM where you don't know if you're rolecop or alignment cop. Getmoript had one that suggested alignment. - In a rolecop PM, you have the sanity comment, which doesn't fit. - When you get back detective as result, you say getmoript is lying for claiming ALIGNMENT cop, when you knew you were ROLECOP, but say there can't be two sane cops and hence getmo is scum. Can you explain this part to me, cause either it was really awful play or your claim is purposeful bs. My role pm is the same as Getmoript's and the hosts basically said that I couldn't check myself for sanity and they just gave me back a non-alignment check (investiagtor worded exactly like that). So I said I was a role cop. Then I checked TG and then it came back as Town. The hosts basically screwed me over, and if you want to lynch me I will blame them. | ||
Corazon
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On July 28 2013 07:08 Vivax wrote: That's cool and all, but it still doesn't answer the question why you claimed that geript was lying about being an alignment cop when at the time you had to believe you were a rolecop, making getmo's cop claim not as incredible as you claim you thought it was. Like, I understand you can't answer it, cause the point makes you look like scum regardless, but it's a valid point in arguing that you actually just fakeclaimed to save TAA. Other than that, I'm curious to hear from your mouth that you think that TG wasn't lynched only cause scum played badly or was afk. BECAUSE WHY ARE 2 TOWN COPS IN A SETUP COMMON. Use your damn brain and put yourself in my shoes Vivax. | ||
Corazon
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On July 23 2013 05:04 cDgCorazon wrote: Ok so I read everyone's filter and I've come up with a few opinions: -TG should've been lynched D1. Like seriously. His game has been ridiculously scummy and he should've been lynched for it. -DrH did cause a no-lynch so I think that should against him, but he should not be instantly beheaded for it. That being said, I really do want to hear more from him. -Everyone has been too spammy in their posts, and there has not been enough analysis. Only 2 or 3 players have been providing good analysis on a constant basis. In an environment like this, scum are going to thrive. Everyone needs to step up so scum have nowhere to hide. If anyone wants opinions on specific things, just ask. Read my filter Vivax. | ||
Corazon
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On July 28 2013 07:16 Vivax wrote: ...and probably won't do it until you, Cora, DrH's slot give me reason to think you're town... On July 23 2013 04:13 phagga wrote: cDgCorazon is replacing in for Zephirdd! Say hello everyone! | ||
Corazon
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On July 28 2013 07:22 Vivax wrote: Cora. Need you to tell me why you wanted TG lynched, and why you trust your check so much in light of sanities and host mistakes that you abruptly stopped pursuing him. If you're town, calm down and tell me how likely you think that the scumteam is TG/Onegu/Kirby, cause if you're town and assuming there's so many scum, that's my conclusion with my current knowledge and suspects, and there is no reason for you to start capsraging at me for being suspicious of a claim that has multiple issues. Vivax, the reason I'm treating you this way is because you are not reading. I'm only going to answer your questions if you have read my filter. Have you? I'm not your bitch and I'm not going to get the damn posts for you. I've explained my TG read and I've explained my other reads. The fact that you think that my proposed scumteam is TG/Onegu/Kirby basically says to me that you have not read my filter and that you are making an uninformed and therefore bad attack on me. | ||
Corazon
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On July 28 2013 07:49 Vivax wrote: Actually, that's my proposed scumteam, not yours. Anyway, I'm all ears and would like to see where you explained your TG read. My current knowledge is that townies like to talk about their scumreads, and don't have much trouble remembering their reasons for suspecting them. Read my filter Vivax. That's all I'm going to say. | ||
Corazon
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Corazon
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On July 28 2013 08:24 Vivax wrote: Corazon, honey, what exactly did I miss in your filter that you're so worked up about cause I missed it? Can you please please point me to it, for the benefit of town and cause you're such an awesome person and cause you don't want me to be suspicious of you when there's no need to? I'm not your bitch. Read it. | ||
Corazon
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On July 26 2013 12:43 cDgCorazon wrote: Stop tunneling Oats. With TG's latest posting and your continued lack of effort, my order of scum reads just might be a-changin'. Brb looking for Oats-TAA interaction. On July 27 2013 00:02 cDgCorazon wrote: So I'm really not sure as to who I want to lynch today. I'm confused between JJD, TG, and jrkirby. TG's latest posting has been really good and he has started to make up for his really crappy D1 with decent analysis and is starting to scum hunt more. With his green check and my unknown sanity, I'd like to keep him around. Reading a good skill toi have | ||
Corazon
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You're acting like an asshole and I don't fucking appreciate it. At this point, I don't care if you all vote me out. As long as I don't have to deal with this asshole again, I don't really care. Bye. See you all after the deadline, if I'm still alive. | ||
Corazon
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Well great... Yes. | ||
Corazon
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On July 28 2013 08:58 TanGeng wrote: Ok, Same exercise for you as well if you want to: (remember Vivax replaced austinmcc) The read austinmcc filter part. I'm going to read it after the flip. I'm too frustrated to do anything right now. | ||
Corazon
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Vivax is just not using his brain FirmTofu is scum | ||
Corazon
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On July 28 2013 13:54 FirmTofu wrote: Because a lynch on Cora wouldn't be as guarunteed as a lynch on me. There aren't as many people convinced that Cora is scum. I'm literally posting this one thing and then going to sleep. This is a 100% scum answer. If FirmTofu was town, he would be ok with being lynched in order to prove his point. It's already been figured out that we have room for mislynches. He only says this because he wants to survive. Guess who only cares about surviving? Scum. It also says something that TG has poked a billion holes in FirmTofu's argument and FirmTofu refuses to address them in any way whatsoever. That's the last of me. I'm going to bed. Make the right decision. | ||
Corazon
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Fuck you Vivax. GG | ||
Corazon
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I asked Phagga if I could check myself N1. I had replaced in and only had like 6 hours to make reads and decide who to check. I decided a check on myself for sanity would be a good idea. So I did it, and I got back Investigator. So I assume I was a rolecop (because my role PM was not specific on what kind of cop I was). So D2 happened and I went to check TanGeng, and he came back town. I was really pissed. Here's my exchange with Phagga: + Show Spoiler + Original Message From phagga: The PM does not say anything about the brain. Look, these are the rules. If you don't like it, we can gladly discuss it after the game is over. Just know that I checked with Bluelightz N1 before sending you your results, which means that all results so far are according to the rules Bluelightz has set out, and not an error from our side. As you can see, since I was in fact an alignment cop, I should have come back town to myself. Not even because the wording of my role pm says that should happen, it would be very balanced for a detective to sacrifice one check to have some sort of clue what his sanity was. The fact that Bluelightz and Phagga decided N1 that I was a rolecop and N2 that I was an alignment cop really screwed me over and was a vital part in the reasoning I got lynched (besides the fact that Vivax is a complete asshole). I'm definitely not playing another game hosted by Bluelightz again, and I wouldn't have replaced in knowing I was dealing with bastard hosts. You guys say what you want, but that's how I feel about it. | ||
Corazon
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On July 31 2013 15:29 phagga wrote: Oh Bullshit, you got back Detective, not Investigator. Don't tell me you are making all this fuss because you can't read your fucking PM. + Show Spoiler + Your investigation (on yourself) returns Detective. Original Message From cDgCorazon: Ok I would like to check myself, and if I can't do that I will check Oats. Thanks ^^ Hide nested quote - Original Message From phagga: I have forwarded the question to Bluelightz, as I'm unsure on how he planned it. You can send me a second, alternative action in case that he does not allow it like 30 min before deadline. Original Message From cDgCorazon: Am I allowed to check myself? Original Message From phagga: Thanks a lot! here is your role. I'll make a an announcement in thread now, have fun playing! Welcome, cDgCorazon to A Bluelightz mafia, where you hopefully will save Blueville from destruction at the hands of the Redvillians. You, as a Detective, have special equipment to discover the dubious loyalty of other citizens. Beware, your equipment may be defective and give you fake results! Original Message From cDgCorazon: Nope I haven't gotten a message from him. I'll replace in. Original Message From phagga: You are signed up as replacement in Bluelightz Mafia. It is currently N1, would you be interested in replacing in? Deadline is 08:00 CEST (+02:00). It is possible that Bluelightz already sent you a message. However, I'm his cohost and have not heard from him for over 24 hours despite sending him several PMs, so I'm currently preparing for the worst. Fuck you Phagga. That's not even the point. Why are you dodging the real issue? The fact is that since I was a sane cop, I should have gotten a town check back on myself. You and Bluelightz are fucking bastard hosts and fucking tricked me into thinking I was a rolecop, which looked really scummy when I had to say that I was actually an alignment cop. It's fucking bullshit and you know it. | ||
Corazon
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On July 31 2013 15:36 phagga wrote: This is your role PM, emphasis is mine: I don't know how you could interpret this as role cop. Also, you got back "Detective", which is generally an alignement cop, not a role cop. If you were unsure on what role you had, why did you not ask? Phagga. Stop dodging the question. My N1 check came back as a role, and my N2 check came back as an alignment. Now unless Detective was some sort of 3p, I should've either been a role cop or my check on myself should've come back town. Now stop dodging the question and give me an explanation of why one of my checks came back as a role and the other an alignment. | ||
Corazon
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On July 31 2013 15:41 phagga wrote: I already answered that question in the PM you quoted. You can't get your sanity by checking yourself, that does not really make any sense. Then why did you allow it? I asked for it. | ||
Corazon
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Oh well, now I know never to play a Bluelightz game again. GG | ||
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Corazon
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On July 31 2013 16:57 Oatsmaster wrote: Cora, you tried to game the setup. You failed. If I was "gaming the setup", why was I given the chance to do so? | ||
Corazon
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1. Did you get this setup checked? 2. Why did you let me check myself if it was against what was said in my role pm? 3. Why was I a rolecop one night and an alignment cop the next? And talk about the DrH thing too. Idk what to ask specifically cause I missed it. | ||
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