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On August 12 2013 08:13 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 00:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: I dunno what they have been talking with Risen, but him voting for me was weird. I told him this when i saw his replacing:
"That being said: Vote for me as the house lord. Me + Risen are voting for him, we have no idea about your alignment. If Risen gets killed this phase, i am far better as a lord than you are, based on you replacing and me being active as fuck. Thanks. :D"
I then changed my vote onto myself, in case Risen was killed we would have no lord. Risen wanted to be the lord. I do not think he is mafia so i am okay with it. There is no reason to get into battle with your town reads, that would only hurt our cooperation. I don´t really care if he is the lord or if i am and honestly i expected me dying during night. I don't see what was weird here? I didn't vote for you, I voted Risen because he wanted to be house lord. You told me that you would then vote for yourself just in case, remember? RE: HP checks. I missed this convo but imo Town doesn't need to know the HP of anyone in the game. Scum does. Either Town should have voted to all burn HP checks asap so no one gets an accurate read later or deal with the fact Scum may get a lord that finds out later. Also I'm guessing when the HP check is used only the Lord is notified? So a Scum Lord can use it w/o anyone knowing unless trying to use it later, correct? Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 01:40 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: What was the point of outing the result of the HP check to everyone? What is scummy about it? Because Scum need that info more than Town. That being said I think if any of the prior Lords are thought to be Scum, the next elected lord can just ask if the HP check was already used. If so chances are very high the previous Lord is Scum as they used it w/o sharing that information. Chromatically votes for yamato. waiting on rest of Lord votes and the other person to claim based on Oberyn claiming watcher. Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 02:35 Acrofales wrote:On August 11 2013 16:33 Onegu wrote: I see no reason not to claim since my ability is 1-shot anyways. I'm a medic that chose to protect Xatalos last night. Whoever was the other person must be the roleblocker While we wait for Mr X, I want to know more about this. With variable health, and different amounts of damage done by different swords, this simple claim doesn't make a lot of sense. Do you heal someone to full if he was hurt earlier? Do you protect someone from damage on one night? And yes, I want to know this in order to decide whether this claim is believable or not. The speed and casualness seems good, but now that I am looking into it, this seems like a very strange claim, given the particularities of our world. Well there was also a 1 shot Alignment Cop claim too right? Not farfetched to think we could have a 1 shot medic too. Seems like we have very weak blue roles in this game unless there are multiples of them. I see Onegu claims later how it actually works, pretty much a normal medic. Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2013 02:38 Acrofales wrote:On August 12 2013 02:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2013 02:34 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 12 2013 02:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2013 02:16 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 02:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2013 02:08 iamperfection wrote: Like what's the point to this rayne I don't get it? The point is i would expect some cooperation in houses. Your house doesn't seem to cooperate and i would like to know why? So the fact that I didn't give them a book of how to play mafia for dummies means we don't cooperate? I asked them their thoughts on what to do and quite frankly I was going to do what I thought was best. Okay now we are getting somewhere. Why do you think Grackaroni outed the check result if you specifically asked his thoughts on what to do? Please rayn, I beg you, stop. Here, let me help you and quote the relevant posts. On August 11 2013 14:24 Grackaroni wrote: We used our check on our own house before the end of the night and Me/Iamp/Xatalos all had 7 hp. Gumshoe had 1, so every lord did shoot him but why wouldn't they since he was town... On August 11 2013 14:27 Grackaroni wrote:On August 11 2013 14:26 Onegu wrote:On August 11 2013 14:24 Grackaroni wrote: We used our check on our own house before the end of the night and Me/Iamp/Xatalos all had 7 hp. Gumshoe had 1, so every lord did shoot him but why wouldn't they since he was town... Why are you giving this info out? you thought it was odd so I told you what was up. Shouldn't make a difference anyway On August 11 2013 14:32 Grackaroni wrote:On August 11 2013 14:29 Onegu wrote:On August 11 2013 14:27 Grackaroni wrote:On August 11 2013 14:26 Onegu wrote:On August 11 2013 14:24 Grackaroni wrote: We used our check on our own house before the end of the night and Me/Iamp/Xatalos all had 7 hp. Gumshoe had 1, so every lord did shoot him but why wouldn't they since he was town... Why are you giving this info out? you thought it was odd so I told you what was up. Shouldn't make a difference anyway Yeah letting scum know exactly how many KP to use doesnt make a a difference you're right that was stupid. Thanks for wasting 10 posts on this subject though. DRAW A CONCLUSION OR STFU Here is your conclusion. iamperfection and Grackaroni are doing incredibly stupid stuff if they are town. They are not working together in their house. When they are being called out from their stupid stuff they say "my bad, it was dumb". WHY THE FUCK DO TOWNIES DO STUPID STUFF WITHOUT THINKING FOR 5 MINUTES? Right, for no reason.. Jesus christ. What possible Blackfyre motivated reason is there to blab that shit in public? If Grackaroni is a Blackfyre he already has the information, so it is by definition not indicative of whether he is a pretender or not. This really says NOTHING about whether or not Grackaroni is a Blackfyre. This is scum motivation: Mafia wants to know how much HP people have much more than town. If iamp uses the check he basically has to tell his house members he is gonna use it, other wise he could get caught (if let´s say Xatalos becomes a lord and uses the check). When he tells the results, Grackaroni outs the results in thread "because dumb". If Grackaroni did not do that, and strange things start to happen with night KP, this points to Xatalos/iamp/Grackaroni. Now, when Grackaroni did out the check, if strange things start to happen it points to EVERY SINGLE FUCKING PERSON IN THE GAME! Magic! I think we should ignore this scenario until after the lynch. I kind of follow where you are going with this (except I think Grack just made a mistake). Lets just wait for this claim and other Lords to chime in on yamato. lol wat
way to say nothing
also chime in on yamato????? wat is there to chime in on??????????????
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What's happening in my house hahahahahaha
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Ace you have a perfect opportunity to catch up now with yamato claiming scum. Thread is gonna be slow until after his flip, not really sure why you are even talking until you are caught up.
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On August 12 2013 03:27 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 03:07 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 03:00 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 12 2013 02:55 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 02:53 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 12 2013 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: EBWOP: And after all this ridiculous stuff people are just letting this kinda stuff slip by because the guys said "my bad, it was stupid".
wtf is up with you? How are you going to find mafia if every scummy thing is gonna be brushed away by sinply saying "my bad, i was dumb"? Because dumb does not equal scummy. If I point out something that is scummy scum can't say "yeah that was scummy my bad". If someone does something dumb and it gets pointed out they can say "yeah that was dumb my bad" You're also wrong, because strange things already happened with the kp. Gumshoe was at 1 hp from house kp and died in the nightpost. I stand by the fact that this means one of the lannisters is scum. The question is, do you think he's scum? If your answer is no then my follow-up question is what the fuck are you doing? no the likeliest conclusion is that gum was shot by a town vig at the end of the night when he was still alive. Maybe from your perspective, if you are town (which I think is likely) that makes sense. As I've said I'm not going to pursue this until way later in the game if there's been no claim for the shot or no flip that suggests it could be a town shot. However rayn is being dumb and it's annoying because it's exactly the way rayn started playing in titanic, which held up to its namesake. iamp why is your vote not on yamato yet? because i dont feel like putting it there yet i would like to see him dance for my amusement.
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Lol, that .gif is awesome. Ok went through his filter real quick. I'm guessing we're lynching him.
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that was not the scumclaim though
the baby seal defense was.
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Ace you not voting for me is weird because if i had gone to bed when i sent you the PM (as i originally intended) i would not have seen your response and we would have all voted for Risen. Had Risen died during the night we would now have no lord in our house.
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that's okay tho, risen is not very high on the scum nighthit priority list. guaranteed.
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On August 12 2013 08:29 Dandel Ion wrote: that's okay tho, risen is not very high on the scum nighthit priority list. guaranteed. It´s the fact that he just replaced into the game, how does he know that? I explained him why he should vote for me and what´s going on.
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On August 12 2013 07:31 iamperfection wrote: ace have you read the thread?
Not the entire thing. When I replaced in Game was at 82 pages and I skimmed. rayne sent me a PM with some reads and interactions between players. So I used that to start the game off. I'm pretty sure I'm missing some critical info so fill me in.
On August 12 2013 07:50 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 07:29 Ace wrote:On August 11 2013 23:47 Oberyn wrote: It's worth noting that I told iamp I thought FT should be shot and asked if they'd consider a yamato lynched. He was not open to consideration.
I then PM'd iamp stating that I want yamato moved up to the priority night kill. He disagreed and insisted that gumshoe and kush be shot first.
I asked Acro about his thoughts on night hits, including yamato's name and he said that he was too busy in PMs to reply. He completely dodged the question.
Chromatically put yamato last on his list of night shots behind gumshoe, kush, and johnnywup stating that yamato will likely be lynched today. Things to check: Was iamp's gumshoe/kush needs to be shot first stance consistent with his stance during the day? If not he was [i]possibly[i/] possibly just trying to avoid wasting KP on yamato. Sentiment seems to be that everyone wanted to hit gumshoe who was lurking. Other explanation is scum protecting a buddy but I don't see any reasons yet for this to hold. Did chromatically know about yamato being checked when he told you he would likely be lynched the next day? Acro not responding to your PMs isn't really strange since he might not trust you. from pm's "For the kp i will use it as i use any vig shot nonsense to lurkers to scum reads to people i don't like in that order" -Iamp
Ok so he was consistent with it then. gumshoe was lurking.
On August 12 2013 07:55 iamperfection wrote: now why would mr ace think that it would be weird that i would push for gumshoe to die considering he probably hates nonsense more than anybody? (hint there are 3 possibilities)
Nothing weird about it. I was thinking of explanations for why you would avoid shooting yamato. If you never had a stance on gumshoe before but switched to one at Night then it would be suspicious.
On August 12 2013 08:00 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 07:55 iamperfection wrote: now why would mr ace think that it would be weird that i would push for gumshoe to die considering he probably hates nonsense more than anybody? (hint there are 3 possibilities) I don't think he was it was saying it was weird. Only that since you deflected the shot away from Yamato if you had a contrary view to shooting lurkers then you would be more suspicious.
Yes
On August 12 2013 08:04 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 08:00 Grackaroni wrote:On August 12 2013 07:55 iamperfection wrote: now why would mr ace think that it would be weird that i would push for gumshoe to die considering he probably hates nonsense more than anybody? (hint there are 3 possibilities) I don't think he was it was saying it was weird. Only that since you deflected the shot away from Yamato if you had a contrary view to shooting lurkers then you would be more suspicious. The correct choices would be 1. ace hasn't read the thread yet because he would clearly seen after what gum did why i would want him killed. 2. Ace is bad 3. Ace is just scum and pouring nonsense in the thread while also not reading. I guess this option also includes all the above just with the added caveat of him being scum. So which one is it ace?
All 3 imo. What did humshoe do?
also chime in on yamato????? wat is there to chime in on??????????????
When I was writing only 1 person? voted at the time.
Oats isn't voting for yamato because he thought Miller/Framer was in play earlier. Hasn't come back to the thread since yamato showed up.
Risen posted but will be back before it's over. I think he should have voted for yamato asap once he posted, and if not should have a reason for doubting the claim. I'm guessing he is just catching up reading everything though.
Oberyn afk since last night.
On August 12 2013 08:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: Ace you not voting for me is weird because if i had gone to bed when i sent you the PM (as i originally intended) i would not have seen your response and we would have all voted for Risen. Had Risen died during the night we would now have no lord in our house.
Ok I understand what happened because I just re-read the PM. At the bottom after outlining all that info you told me to vote for you, and you + Risen would vote for Risen. That way it's a definite we have a Lord if someone is killed. I misread that part and voted Risen based on you having a Town read and being fine with him getting Lordship. My mistake.
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gumshoe after being afk for almost the entire cycle decided to come back to the thread and vote for the mislynch when he didn't even have a vote. He then proceeded to go afk again and not respond to any pms.
oh and apparently he did this as town.
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yeah im cool with lynching yamato.
can i just do it in this thread? ##vote yamato
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On August 10 2013 11:44 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 11:21 iamperfection wrote:On August 10 2013 11:20 gumshoe wrote: ## vote tofu you dont have a vote you jib jub rofl even i knew that Lies!
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On August 10 2013 11:44 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 11:21 iamperfection wrote:On August 10 2013 11:20 gumshoe wrote: ## vote tofu you dont have a vote you jib jub rofl even i knew that
wat
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##Vote yamato77
I haven't been around a computer all day, but I should be available most of tomorrow. The thread should be made aware that I am not a watcher and Onegu is not a 1-shot medic. It was probably a long shot, but I have received no information regarding the identity of the roleblocker. Carry on.
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Acro, for what reason did you not attempt to sit on the red check and either pass it to me to talk with yamato in pms or wait to see who yamato would push today?
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On August 10 2013 06:40 Oberyn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 22:37 Dandel Ion wrote: A bit more likely he's just scum with koshi though. The way koshi went about saying he's voting sol over me without explaining it or listening to my reasons also suggests as much. I'd like to take another look at this post. Dandel suggests that the most likely situation is that koshi and sol are scum buddies. However, at an earlier point he explained how sol was lying and misrepresenting his town abilities in a pm with koshi and that koshi reported back to dandel with this information. Is is just me or does it make absolutely no sense that a scum player would decide to campaign to convince his own scum buddy, then that scum buddy would report the misrepresentation back to a town player. I really don't understand how dandel could come to a conclusion that they are both mafia.
Dandel, could you please comment on this post.
Additionally, why did you choose to disappear at the end of d1?
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