That was my reads finished 30min before night ended. It's the same final reads I posted to both my house members.
Kept it the same because what was the point in changing. On a phone ffs.
Seriously. How does this question get u to know me...
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Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
August 14 2013 06:07 GMT
#2643
That was my reads finished 30min before night ended. It's the same final reads I posted to both my house members. Kept it the same because what was the point in changing. On a phone ffs. Seriously. How does this question get u to know me... | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
August 14 2013 06:08 GMT
#2644
On August 14 2013 15:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also we are lynching Vivax today. Last I checjed. U r not lord. Chromatically >>> vivax | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
August 14 2013 06:15 GMT
#2646
That's my basis and can be easily supported by quotes. The guy is a classic blender. As for vivax. He needs more time. This town keeps wanting to lynch ppl with genuine in real life business. Did u not learn your lesson with gumshoe. Firm tofu etc Vivax has been busy. Now he's no saint to me. But deserves a chance to post uninhibited Unlike chromatically who has been flying under the radar by choice and then pushing lurkers. | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
August 14 2013 06:26 GMT
#2649
I'm facing under your pressure. U got me. I'm scum Why u have a good reputation I have no idea.. it just nitpicking and it's all non alignment indicative I talk to vivax outside the game. I know he has been camping past couple days... Heck.. he even put it out in the thread. As for chromatically. Is he a strong enough read that u r going to fight me over this? Or r u going to let him speak for himself... | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
August 14 2013 06:29 GMT
#2650
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Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
August 14 2013 06:38 GMT
#2655
We vote for the Lord's. I agreed for onegu to be lord. So did oberyn. I had over 50pm with both of them yesterday. I'm confident both r town Clearly oberyn is/was | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
August 14 2013 06:45 GMT
#2661
On August 14 2013 15:30 raynpElikoneet wrote: Yes i am going to let him speak for himself. He is not a strong enough read for me. I specifically do not like when you say this: Show nested quote + This town keeps wanting to lynch ppl with genuine in real life business. Did u not learn your lesson with gumshoe. Firm tofu etc How the fuck am i supposed to know if FirmTofu or gumshoe has RL-business? FirmTofu posted, he posted pure shit. so did gumshoe. And what is this "etc". Are you saying we should just ignore the lurkers and let them continue do nothing? why? Why do you want to lynch Chrom over johnnywup? This is a pretty scummy post by the way rayn But we can continue picking this bone. Its helping me discern your alignment. Can't say it's helping u discern mine. More nitpicking. Regarding the irl busy ppl. Try reading their posts. They have expressed it succinctly. Ft should never have been lynched. It was a policy lynch based on nothing but a hunch. Others were far better lynches given that point in time. As for chrome over johnny. Have a read of ny list post. Should explain it well. The town attmosphere u r perpetuating is horrid rayn. Let me know when u have an alignment indicative question for me. | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
August 14 2013 06:47 GMT
#2662
On August 14 2013 15:42 Clarity_nl wrote: Turns out they split the kp to kill a bunch of people today, or at least that's the likeliest explanation in my eyes. This makes one of xata/grack more likely to be scum since they were both aware of gumshoe's 1 hp before n1 nightpost. Still very unlikely it's a townshot. I thought it might have been iamp as a vigi.... but obviously that's not the case. I didn't include grack in my post cause I ran outta time to make it and had a hard time getting read on him. Completely agree and was thinking this already.. I.e. kill split implicating grack/xat | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
August 14 2013 06:52 GMT
#2663
On August 14 2013 15:38 johnnywup wrote: there's the fact that i'm not scum, rayn. pretty good reason not to lynch me Show nested quote + On August 14 2013 14:42 Mocsta wrote: Johnny. Whilst I disagree on kush I won't fight u about it. He's just one of those guys everyone gets burned by eventually. What I will query instead is this. There's more than 2 scum in the game. Please provide an alternative to kush that we can discuss. acro has a good case on kush which may change your mind if he posts it. i was convinced kush was scum before i saw the case so i may be a little biased though koshi or risen imoimo Walk me through in a couple points Why risen or koshi demonstrate a scum mindset pls | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
August 14 2013 07:15 GMT
#2670
On August 14 2013 15:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On August 14 2013 15:45 Mocsta wrote: On August 14 2013 15:30 raynpElikoneet wrote: Yes i am going to let him speak for himself. He is not a strong enough read for me. I specifically do not like when you say this: This town keeps wanting to lynch ppl with genuine in real life business. Did u not learn your lesson with gumshoe. Firm tofu etc How the fuck am i supposed to know if FirmTofu or gumshoe has RL-business? FirmTofu posted, he posted pure shit. so did gumshoe. And what is this "etc". Are you saying we should just ignore the lurkers and let them continue do nothing? why? Why do you want to lynch Chrom over johnnywup? This is a pretty scummy post by the way rayn But we can continue picking this bone. Its helping me discern your alignment. Can't say it's helping u discern mine. More nitpicking. Regarding the irl busy ppl. Try reading their posts. They have expressed it succinctly. Ft should never have been lynched. It was a policy lynch based on nothing but a hunch. Others were far better lynches given that point in time. As for chrome over johnny. Have a read of ny list post. Should explain it well. The town attmosphere u r perpetuating is horrid rayn. Let me know when u have an alignment indicative question for me. Explain to me why FT should have not been lynced and who should have been lynced instead? Easy for you to say as you were not in the game. Btw all your reads are pretty much "i dunno" and then some people are town and some are scum.-- Rayn. I can go into detail of why ft was a bad lynch. But what does this accomplish for town today? Ultimately he flipped town. So your philosophy is flawed already. I find it interesting again how u r choosing to "pressure" me. Lets play along. U think my reads are "I dunno".. ok.. so how come u r not prodding me to understand my mindset My issue with our discourse this cycle is your need to blindly nitpick irrelevant things and defend chromatically.. nowhere are u trying to understand me Personally. I expect more from u if town than the effort u put in with me so farl | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
August 14 2013 07:21 GMT
#2672
Regarding onegu Here's a stupid thing.. take it as u want That house list before the night post. He was meant to pm that to me.. instead he posted in the thread. Anyways. He pms going sorry. I'm going to be modkilled what do I do. I suggested apologise to Dr.p and edit out. Anyways. If this guy was a scummer. I imagine first course of action is to go to qt... Not pm me. Weak heuristic I know. So take it as u want. | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
August 14 2013 07:29 GMT
#2674
On August 14 2013 16:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On August 14 2013 16:15 Mocsta wrote: On August 14 2013 15:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: On August 14 2013 15:45 Mocsta wrote: On August 14 2013 15:30 raynpElikoneet wrote: Yes i am going to let him speak for himself. He is not a strong enough read for me. I specifically do not like when you say this: This town keeps wanting to lynch ppl with genuine in real life business. Did u not learn your lesson with gumshoe. Firm tofu etc How the fuck am i supposed to know if FirmTofu or gumshoe has RL-business? FirmTofu posted, he posted pure shit. so did gumshoe. And what is this "etc". Are you saying we should just ignore the lurkers and let them continue do nothing? why? Why do you want to lynch Chrom over johnnywup? This is a pretty scummy post by the way rayn But we can continue picking this bone. Its helping me discern your alignment. Can't say it's helping u discern mine. More nitpicking. Regarding the irl busy ppl. Try reading their posts. They have expressed it succinctly. Ft should never have been lynched. It was a policy lynch based on nothing but a hunch. Others were far better lynches given that point in time. As for chrome over johnny. Have a read of ny list post. Should explain it well. The town attmosphere u r perpetuating is horrid rayn. Let me know when u have an alignment indicative question for me. Explain to me why FT should have not been lynced and who should have been lynced instead? Easy for you to say as you were not in the game. Btw all your reads are pretty much "i dunno" and then some people are town and some are scum.-- Rayn. I can go into detail of why ft was a bad lynch. But what does this accomplish for town today? Ultimately he flipped town. So your philosophy is flawed already. I find it interesting again how u r choosing to "pressure" me. Lets play along. U think my reads are "I dunno".. ok.. so how come u r not prodding me to understand my mindset My issue with our discourse this cycle is your need to blindly nitpick irrelevant things and defend chromatically.. nowhere are u trying to understand me Personally. I expect more from u if town than the effort u put in with me so farl Yes this helps me figuring out your alignment. One more question, have you followed the game before replacing in? I'll give my conclusion in ~2 hours, now i need a bit more sleep. Lol.. yeah ok.... The answer to your query is in my first post But I hate it when ppl say that.. so no I didn't read the gamei came in yesterday Had many pm with onegu... I was very concerned because he was too open with me abd started off by giving me the recap I asked for. It piqued my interest to read the start. We then discussed early reads... Our Convo was very natural and he showed me a mindset he hasn't shared in the thread. Anyways this made me read the rest of the game and I powered through it. Finishing one he before deadline | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
August 14 2013 07:33 GMT
#2675
On August 14 2013 16:28 Clarity_nl wrote: Show nested quote + On August 14 2013 16:21 Mocsta wrote: Clarity Regarding onegu Here's a stupid thing.. take it as u want That house list before the night post. He was meant to pm that to me.. instead he posted in the thread. Anyways. He pms going sorry. I'm going to be modkilled what do I do. I suggested apologise to Dr.p and edit out. Anyways. If this guy was a scummer. I imagine first course of action is to go to qt... Not pm me. Weak heuristic I know. So take it as u want. Bleh. I guess? I wanna lynch s0lstice today anyway so he has a chance to show he's town other than tripping on his own feet and crying green tears rather than red ones. What do you think of my point on s0lstice? Sol is a major question mark for me. The criticism is valid abd I'm keen to hear a response. That is why I prefer chromatically. Instead of being a question mark needing lots of effort to decipher. He's got a filter ready to go. Chromatically might be relatively unknown.but I know him and expect way more than proposing a low activity lynch... It stinks majorly | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
August 14 2013 08:33 GMT
#2679
I agree with the rb logic So... That leaves us with the gracken Q about sol Do u think higher chance of mafia or 3p Don't jump on me for the 3p...it's a question to check how emotionally attached u r to the read. | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
August 14 2013 08:37 GMT
#2680
On August 14 2013 17:26 Clarity_nl wrote: btw what was this about mocsta? Oats asks if you're claiming jailkeeper which is not a dumb question (which is what you told him), rather an obvious one actually. Am I missing something? Oberyn queried this too. He thought I was trying to escape being shot 1.I didn't even know I was up for being shot 2.I think the post lost context cos it went to a new page It was a quip based on someone saying who should I kill Q. The Lord's didn't kill anyone during night.. do we have confirmation on who the agreed targets were? All I know is agreed shooting times.. | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
August 14 2013 09:01 GMT
#2684
You have a propensity to plus 1 others cases. Which are also yet to materialize. How are these cases developing? Are you working with your house on reads, or are they trusting you to be a proof reader. As for the case on risen. In short. It sucks. ANd I want risen lynched and am saying this. Your case is a summary. You don't explain at all what is scummy about risen targetting sharrant. My town read on you was purely a heuristic subject to change. It's these types of convo that allow me and others to formulate a refined read. What I need from you is to explain me why the mentality if risen is scummy. Not that you think his actions are scummy. | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
August 14 2013 09:42 GMT
#2693
why? 1. why does a list post with yam at the bottom prove me scum? lol, so town can't have town reads on scum? is this what you are saying? if so, we should have lynched oats if he was alive. 2.why is asking a question about HP, alignment indicative? 3. clarity already nailed my summary post and why your interpretation appears far fetched. this is why ver caught you koshi. nothing to do with actions or questions, but rather motive and intent. instead of trying to understand why someone is doing something, you are looking for non-kosher actions and trying to spin them as scummily as you can. its why I read you as scum early game and quickly coming back to the same realisation. | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
August 14 2013 11:34 GMT
#2737
we are in a tough predicament as there is an abundance of choice for the lynch me thinks. Contenders (1) Koshi: His points on me feel as forced as with Oats, however, for some reason he has really dialed up the tryhard factor. & (2) Risen: 'Nuff said. Awaiting More Info (1) Solstice: Need this guy to respond & (2) Chromatically: Everyone keeps saying he is town based on PMs... I want to hear him respond before giving that any credence. & (3) Rayn: Like Koshi, is going out of his way to throw tarnish my reputation this game (sullied by my former, kirby) =============== Xatalos, I might post the pms I had with Oberyn (paraphrased blah blah), where we discuss Iamp a bit later on. Hopefully that will settle any lingering doubt. | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
August 14 2013 13:43 GMT
#2752
(1) Regarding Iamperfection. So what if I had a scum read on him. Whether you agreed or disagreed with that read, doesn't make me scum. You have shown signs of a clear head throughout the game, so I expect more from you. Anyways What I wrote to Oberyn was: can I have a read on iamp pls. he's playing very different to what I associate of him. nothing is scummy, but, hes trying to be a leader by involving people. normally he is like dandel and just says I'm right, your wrong. To which he replied (paraphrased) I agree about iamp. He blocked my yamato suspicion because of lurkers with little posts. He also wanted Ace out of the game. His read of Iamperfection wasn't as strong as mine, but he said he was willing to follow up heavy pressure with him this cycle. Obviously he can't do this. My point is: iamp wasn't as clearly town as you think; hence, me thinking he was scum, is not alignment indicative. ======================= My issue with Chromatically is as I said in my read.
Before chastising him further I wanted to give him a chance to talk. ======================= Anyways, thers been a lot of complaints about jrkirby filter, so i decided to read it. I dont get what all the hoo-hah is about. Yes, he is not a prime example of how to be a town leader Yes, I don't agree with the logic behind his reads HOWEVER. Yes, his posts have a bluntness about them that most importantly, feel sincere. Since when does being wrong, make you scum.. TIP.. it never has, and never will. What makes you scum, is how you going about being wrong. In this regard, jrkirby has not been involved in foul play. jrkirby is lynchbait, and the type of filter scum love to pick on. Cos usually the guys can't defend themselves either. | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
August 14 2013 13:48 GMT
#2753
To be honest, Im too tired to read the sharrant stuff. I promise will give it a full pass over when i wake up. In the mean time what I would like you to address is: You have expressed much grievance about Koshis play since Day1. (1) Has he satisfied your inqueries? If so, why; or why not. (2) How have his posting since my entry into the game affected your read of him. (3) If you havn't commented, I would be keen to hear what you have to say about Clarity points on Sol. Thanks Vivax. | ||
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