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On August 08 2013 15:05 yamato77 wrote: Me knowing your reads on players in your own house who you have PM contact with doesn't help me? Think for a second, Oats, this isn't difficult. you knowing my town reads on people doesnt help you. fuck you too yamato. | ||
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On August 08 2013 14:37 yamato77 wrote: this might mean more if you tell us who is in your house also you havent told us whos in your house. | ||
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On August 08 2013 15:10 yamato77 wrote: How am I supposed to evaluate your alignment if I don't know your reads? lol, umad. um what? you are so full of shit its spilling out. | ||
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On August 08 2013 15:16 yamato77 wrote: Fine, I'll just let you do whatever is you're going to do this game and someone else from your house will come and be useful. yeah stop taking that retarded attitude. Face it. You have no reason to know my house full of townreads. You have not even told us the members in your house. And I am loath to call someone a hypocrite, but sadly, thats what you are. | ||
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On August 08 2013 15:39 yamato77 wrote: I'm not a hypocrite, because no one has specifically asked me to tell them the members of my house, nor have I commented on my opinion of them. Why are you so resistant? What are you REALLY hiding? Wait. So you ask me to tell you the members of my house. And when I dont, im scummy. But when you dont, its cause 'no one asked' BULLSHIT YAMATO. | ||
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On August 08 2013 15:45 yamato77 wrote: Why would you want me to tell you when you've been so stubborn about NOT telling me? For the record, my house is Oberyn, jrkirby and Onegu. I haven't really talked for very much with any of them, really. how can you take that condecending attitude?? How. What a dick. Why havent you talked to them? | ||
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On August 08 2013 15:45 yamato77 wrote: Why would you want me to tell you when you've been so stubborn about NOT telling me? I thought you said it was good for town? | ||
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On August 08 2013 15:47 yamato77 wrote: I have talked to them, but it wasn't about much aside from who to elect lord and what to do with house powers. Not exactly the most alignment-indicative information. you have house powers???? cool. Why did your house choose to elect oberyn? | ||
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On August 08 2013 15:49 yamato77 wrote: And you obviously don't so why were you so insistent that I should tell town who was in my house? Nothing that you've said makes sense, Oats. I'm not a hypocrite. I want information, and you keep dodging giving it for.. what reason exactly? You want information but you arent willing to do what you ask others to do. Hypocrite. not now but before. I dont want to tell you whose in my house because there may not be scum inside and if there isnt scum inside, they cant kill my house. Also, there is literally 0 reason why my house composition should affect today's lynch, which is what we should be doing. | ||
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Info is an extremely vague answer. | ||
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Whos scum yamato? | ||
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Also, he never expanded how it helps us figure out what is going on in this setup, or how knowing who voted for who for lord helps town. Actually, it doesnt help town, knowing votes for lord. Why? Cause scum can just say they voted the current lord. Duh. So therefore, yamato has no good reasons for disclosing your housemates. Dont do it day 1. | ||
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On August 08 2013 16:05 yamato77 wrote: This sentiment is so anti-town it has to be scum motivated. postgame. | ||
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On August 08 2013 16:10 yamato77 wrote: Since we're playing a hypothetical game of mafia, let's consider the very real possibility that scum have already figured out who is in what house. What use is hiding now? so you change your tune from 'helping town' to it doesnt help scum right guys!! its distraction yamato. | ||
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Why do you insist on being an insufferable prick? | ||
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On August 08 2013 16:37 yamato77 wrote: Because all you've done is insist on stifling my attempts at getting any sort of read on you whatsoever. All Ive done is refuse to tell you the name of dudes in my house. Stop making it out to be bigger than it is. If you cant read me through my 20 or so posts, well ,I dont think you can read me this game. | ||
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Yamato, wanna talk about something else? | ||
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On August 08 2013 16:51 yamato77 wrote: I still don't know a single read of yours. so? I dont know a single strong read of your either. How does knowing my townreads help you in reading me ???? | ||
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On August 08 2013 16:55 yamato77 wrote: Your "townreads" as a scum could be useful if I decide that lynching you is the best option day 1. If you're town, it could also be useful in getting a read on those players early, since you have had time to talk with them and they probably haven't even posted yet. let me worry about the 'looking townie' Also just find scum mkay? | ||
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On August 08 2013 14:35 Oatsmaster wrote: So who is scum so far from the 6 houses? my house seems pretty townie | ||
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Oats, we just played in Titanic and you come in this thread and say that you know that everybody in your house is town and that you will protect their identity? You must be really REALLY confident in this game. You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you. Um what? My reads were mostly right in Titanic. 1 wrong read. whatever. I only prevent you from knowing who I can contact through pms. All this other stuff is really weird. I didnt get elected. | ||
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On August 08 2013 19:47 Koshi wrote: @ Oats. Tell me why you have townreads on your house. Don't use names but you can at least tell us WHY they are town. It's impossible to actually know if somebody is town in your house. At this point I think Oats his house is filled with scum only. Why I have townreads on the dudes? Cause they are nice and helpful and shit. No obvious scummy pms, natural. Nothing like your house, controversy everywhere. | ||
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On August 08 2013 19:54 Koshi wrote: I meant how the person in your house got elected. Your first scumread in Titanic was on a town that you pushed till the end. Then you found a "townslip" on an actual scum that we suspected and managed to get that scum enough towncred so he didn't get lynched day 1. Now in this game you say that your entire house is town and that we should just trust you on it. That's hilarious. Lets see, I backed off my first scumread. Then I called 1 scum obv town. And you? You decided that the best course of action was to make a joke out of it and make everyone think you are scum. Good play right?. Yeah. Now in this different game, I dont have a clue why you should trust me on why the 3 other dudes in my house are town. Not a damn clue. I never said you should trust me. I never said anything about 'sheeping' me. Now get your cocky head out of your arse and explain further why dandel's play is scummy. | ||
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On August 08 2013 20:02 Koshi wrote: Who is the best lord in our house in your opinion? I didnt see the pm's, i dont know. | ||
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On August 08 2013 20:05 Koshi wrote: Ok I agree. But at this point we are not doing normal scumhunting. Everybody is discussing the houses while we are not allowed to mention the members in the houses. At this point we can't do any scumhunting at all. 20 pages. You cant find 1 scumread in 20 pages? | ||
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On August 08 2013 20:54 Koshi wrote: This game started on page 22? In the remaining 5 pages I see Yamato&Oats shitting up the thread. johnnywup&Oats being superdefenisve about their house without sharing any reads. Onegu seems to try to avert thread direction to House Baratheon , just like johnnywup tried to do so by using Robert Baratheon as 3P example. The Lannisters shared their reads and I did the same for my House. That's everything that happened in 6 hours unless I missed something. oh is it? So do you have any reads you want to expand on? | ||
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On August 08 2013 21:06 Xatalos wrote: Oats, why do you have a scumread on Koshi again? Because this post before claiming him as scum doesn't really explain it: koshi didnt explain why dandel's actions was scum, when all the things he said seem to be townie to me, like agressive and shit. Killing kush was probably a joke, dunno. Also, he didnt explain why im scum. This whole statement is bullshit. You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you. Its not what Im doing at all. And its really weird that this is the conclusion that he drew from my statements so far. | ||
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On August 08 2013 21:20 Koshi wrote: 1) Oats townreads are either "nice and shit" or "agressive and shit". 2) Oats does not realise that this game is 6 pages long instead of 20. 3) Oats calls me scum if I point out he is shitting up the thread. 4) Oats does not answer me when I ask him who should be lord in our house in theory, but then wants me to explain to him why I find DI scummy over S0lstice. Here is my first real scumread. 1) And so my heuristics are wrong? 2) Ok? 3) No, I called you scum because your scumreads are bullshit. 4) Whats the point of answering your question? | ||
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On August 08 2013 21:12 Acrofales wrote: Do you think Yamato is a Blackfyre sympathist? not really no. Although, he could definetely play like this as scum, but I dont want to lynch him today | ||
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[QUOTE]On August 08 2013 21:06 Acrofales wrote: [QUOTE]On August 08 2013 18:43 Xatalos wrote: I also want to hear more from Ser Oatsmaster, because his reasons for not having a healthy dose of suspicion towards his kinfolks are weak. The fact that there was no strife in your house, is no reason to assume they are all true to the realm.[/QUOTE] Oats, I'm actually interested in this hidden bit of text within Acro's opening post. Why do you assume that your House members being "nice" makes them town? grackaroni was "nice" in our House, more so than gumshoe or me, yet he was the most scummy of us four. Precisely because he went with the flow and was so passive/reactive... or "nice". I'd even go so far as to say that some controversy is better than no controversy at all. Too much is too much though, like might be the case with House Baratheon.[/QUOTE] By nice, I mean like not passive and shit. I dunno. Ok strongest thing is that discussion has been natural and so far no scumreads on anyone. | ||
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On August 08 2013 21:55 Koshi wrote: And of course Oats is more town than me for shitting up this thread 24/7 and even lying about not knowing how many pages there are in this game to try to get me mad. personal attacks and jumping to conclusions not cool | ||
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[QUOTE]On August 08 2013 21:40 Xatalos wrote: [QUOTE]On August 08 2013 21:06 Acrofales wrote: [QUOTE]On August 08 2013 18:43 Xatalos wrote: I also want to hear more from Ser Oatsmaster, because his reasons for not having a healthy dose of suspicion towards his kinfolks are weak. The fact that there was no strife in your house, is no reason to assume they are all true to the realm.[/QUOTE] Oats, I'm actually interested in this hidden bit of text within Acro's opening post. Why do you assume that your House members being "nice" makes them town? grackaroni was "nice" in our House, more so than gumshoe or me, yet he was the most scummy of us four. Precisely because he went with the flow and was so passive/reactive... or "nice". I'd even go so far as to say that some controversy is better than no controversy at all. Too much is too much though, like might be the case with House Baratheon.[/QUOTE] By nice, I mean like not passive and shit. I dunno. Ok strongest thing is that discussion has been natural and so far no scumreads on anyone. [/QUOTE] | ||
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One thing that caught my eye was the Oats / yamato show. Oatsmaster, i think your argument about not revealing your house members is bad and i don´t see a reason for you to call yamato out on it. It can easily be explained why revealing your house members and talking about them is beneficial for town. I´ll use your house as an example; You say you have townreads on all the dudes in your house. You are not willing to reveal them. What gives? Do you expect us all to take that as face value? The game has been going on for another 24 hours, and the only way to justify your reads from N0 is to talk about the reasons behind them. You can´t just come in and say "my house is cool, all town", because it stinks. Maybe you are right, but you can´t convince us of you being right with that. A good way for 1 or more mafians to perfectly hide is JUST the behaviour you are showing us. I dont understand this part. Im not trying to convince you that specific people are town. How can mafian's be found out if I claim the people in my house and the fact that I think they are all town? I dont understand this Ryan. | ||
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On August 08 2013 23:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because we canthen talk about your interaction with them, which will lead to: 1) Other opinions of if you all are town or not. 2) If we come to conclusion you are most likely all town, we have by process of elimination eliminated 4 suspects -> much higher chance of scum being elsewhere. Now you saying "they´re all town" leads us nowhere. Not in finding mafia and not in proving anyone´s innocence. So you wanna discuss townreads because? Also, let me deal with my townreads being called scum. They arent at the moment so I dont see why we need to waste our time. | ||
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On August 08 2013 23:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don´t think this is the right way to think about it. The game does not work in the way that i say "X is town" and when people ask me "why" i say "i don´t wanna discuss my townreads" and everyone should take me at face value. But you are right, the discussion is going nowhere as we cleraly have different opinion here. Oats who´s scum? What do you think about what i wrote on Onegu? Dude, you arent thinking the right way about it. Im saying that 3 our of our list in the game is town. Thats it. That shouldnt do anything to help you or hurt you from finding scum. I think koshi and Johnnywup top candidates for reasons already expressed by both dandel and myself. Yeah Onegu really needs to explain that bit. First giving out info is bad, then townread. | ||
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So events happened like this. I was talking to clarity, and he told me SnB's rolename out of NOWHERE. Ok. So I asked him for his rolename. And he declined giving reasons like, 'scum can bluesnipe rolenames'. Which sounds like crap to me. But whatever. Eventually, I decided to fakeclaim 1 shot rolename alignment check because he wouldnt tell me his rolename. After I said that, he gave it up willingly. I then came back and pm'ed him that the result was that its a fake role name. Fakeclaim. Which means he is scum. He then said something along the lines of 'ok dude' And nothing else. So that makes me think he is town cause he doesnt have an overt reaction. I dunno. Thoughts guys? | ||
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On August 09 2013 02:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: I read all of this and i´m like wtf? I am clueless.. so therefore, this is why we dont discuss pm's in detail cause explaining shit is hard. Stick to the thread. | ||
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On August 09 2013 14:44 FirmTofu wrote: So you think the fact that it was more constructed makes it non-alignment indicative? Wouldn't scum be more worried about the content of their posts than town? Why would constructed flavor not be alignment indicative? Because both scum and town have to construct a roleplaying post. Its not natural either way so therefore the fact that its constructed is not alignment indicative. The content on the other hand, may be. I dunno. Ok so I was looking through johnnywup's filter and I saw this On August 09 2013 05:57 johnnywup wrote: i don't have any extra information and its the first thing that came to mind for a 3p wincon in a themed setup like this. robert barath trying to kill targs is like pretty big in lore so it came to mind pretty quickly. I posted the exact same thought in a PM to my housemates and none seemed to think it was scummy. And its really weird that his defence is 'none of my housemates think it was scummy'. Shows an attitude of caring about his appearance. Not that he was wrong about the 3p or whatever but that his suggestion did not look scummy to other people. Weird mindset. Thoughts? | ||
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On August 09 2013 14:58 johnnywup wrote: he said it was scummy that I had that thought and I said that others saw it and some thought the exact opposite. Maybe that doesn't even really matter but I thought it was worth pointing out. Why is it worth pointing out? Why didnt you explain why its not scummy to think that there is a 3p | ||
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On August 09 2013 15:19 johnnywup wrote: I dunno, I just thought it was. Does that bother you? It's scummy to think there's a 3p? It bothers me that your defence is 'these guys think its not scummy' | ||
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On August 09 2013 15:44 johnnywup wrote: it's hardly a defense i'm sure you'll agree. i didn't really intend for it to be a defense. I was just pointing out a contrast. Do you think I'm scum? yes | ||
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So you are basically suggesting a policy nk on lurkers right? Cause you dont have specific targets. I dont know if I agree. | ||
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So bad On August 09 2013 22:42 Koshi wrote: Oats DID NOT PUT HIS THOUGHTS clearly in this thread. What kind of bullshit is that? He currently has 5 townreads. 3 members of his house because they are "nice and shit", DI because "he is agressive and shit" and Acro because his constructed posts are constructed. I don't see why everybody thinks Oats is town. So i have townreads. Big whoop. I am not angry at Oats, he is however trying really hard to do so. Why are the first 2 not relevant? Oats is actually capable to make cases, so him just commenting on his townreads like that is bad play or scumplay. Why would he call me scum if I am right about him shitting up the thread? Doesn't he see that he is doing it? Instead he keeps doing these things like asking me questions that are so wrong that I just have to respond to them. Making cases means im town? Wow fuck thats easy. Why do you think Im not making cases? Town atmosphere is overrated man, you have this idealistic view of an optimum town atmosphere. Oh well. | ||
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Seems like useless fluff to me. | ||
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I dunno Vivax. I dunno. If he flips town do I get to say 'I TOLD YOU SO'? | ||
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doesnt night 1 end in like 2 days? | ||
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I thought we were leaving this to kp? | ||
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On August 10 2013 05:30 Acrofales wrote: Okay, people I want to lynch: jrkirby: in addition to being largely absent, he is completely useless. All his utterances are regarding the structure of this meeting, and he seems completely unconcerned with finding Blackfyres. FirmTofu: same story, except for his retarded case on me. His presentation of that case was suspect: why did he try to trump his "contribution" so badly? It was a non-contribution from someone who has not contributed at all during this meeting. Yamato: open his filter. There is nothing there. Would lynch. I have spent most of the last hour puzzling over s0lstice's filter. I am no longer comfortable lynching him. He is putting real effort into analysing the meeting, and not just into defending himself. I will have to satisfy myself that the internal politics of House Baratheon are retarded, but I don't think continued analysing of why s0lstice didn't vote for DI makes much sense: he is correct that the reasons for a Blackfyre acting that way are equally farfetched to the reasons for a loyalist. I must simply discard that evidence. Is he loyal to the realm? I do not know, but I feel he is a valuable enough asset to let live for now. So Acro wants to lynch 2 lurkers and someone he doesnt even give proper explanation for. acro isnt this bad as town. Horrible post. Horrible. | ||
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I read his filter. Its like 7 pages. | ||
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Thats a lurker. He has only commented on Acro in somewhat expanded fashion. Lurker. | ||
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i dunno. Nothing much. Promised activity i guess.. | ||
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Whatever, I dont have a vote and if you guys refuse to listen to me, I cant do anything. Thoughts on Acro Iamp? | ||
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also this lynch too easy. | ||
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On August 10 2013 13:16 iamperfection wrote: too easy when the lynch is the hand of 6 people instead of 24 jib jubs no it is the wagon of justice wagon of fail man. | ||
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No reason. Gut. | ||
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You guys should sheep me too. | ||
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On August 10 2013 13:41 iamperfection wrote: no because you give no reasons your just herp derp your wrong for no reason what so ever. I dunno, there isnt much at all alignment indicative in his filter at all. Its a lurker lynch. Accept it and STOP IT. | ||
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14 minutes to lynch, FT explain clarity. Thats probably one of the most contentious lynches. | ||
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On August 10 2013 13:51 Onegu wrote: Becareful electing the same lord over and over as there is no way to know if they used the hp check. So if you elected scum as lord and he used the check you wont know he used it. we will know if we tried to use it. If scum uses the hp check without claiming, he is basically suiciding. | ||
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Also how the fuck did acro get voted for again? | ||
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possibly lol. So do you wanna lynch Acro? | ||
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How come acro isnt scum for you. How come yamato is???. | ||
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On August 11 2013 14:46 iamperfection wrote: because yamato bugged me more than acro you're outta touch man. Lol johnny | ||
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On August 11 2013 15:00 Sharrant wrote: You'll know why as soon as Acro gets on. If you want to share with the non-lords after that, be my guest, any of you is welcome to. Why? | ||
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In this game he's basically just disrupted conversation, but done so without helping the town. He's been shutting people down, and causing arguments to stifle discussion. This doesnt happen. | ||
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On August 11 2013 17:32 Ace wrote: I voted for Risen. Explain to me why it is a big deal. Because his scumreads are really weird and he hasnt done anything outside that. Why did you vote for Risen? | ||
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On August 11 2013 18:46 Ace wrote: I've already stated I dont have any strong reads yet. @Oats: Explain how my reasoning is bad. your reasoning is 'there may not be scum in every house' Thats bad. Really bad. | ||
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On August 11 2013 18:57 Ace wrote: Oats you're going to have to go into detail and show why. So far I have seen nothing that suggests every house has to have Scum. If there is something that I don't know about point it out. DI where were you confirmed Town? And um yea, understanding your thought process is a pretty big deal. Why using setup speculation to defend yourself is bad? Come on Ace. | ||
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On August 11 2013 19:08 Grackaroni wrote: You're using setup speculation to accuse him lol. Quit trolling. Im using meta. Dandel was using setup speculation. Relax Grackaroni. | ||
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On August 11 2013 19:13 Ace wrote: What meta are you using Oats? Explain thoroughly. I haven't seen you do so at all. The OP says nothing about how many Scum are in the game or how they are allocated between houses. I point this out to "defend" myself. How is this setup speculation and not just reading the OP? You are the one assuming there must be at least 1 scum in each house. I dont want to explain why I think you are scum, cause I dont really want to lynch you today. I would like you to explain why you think someone is scum though. | ||
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On August 11 2013 19:21 Ace wrote: I just have to ask before I go to bed: If you think I am Scum, you should want to lynch me. Today. I haven't seen you push anyone else to be lynched so what's the hold up? Why should I want to lynch you today as opposed to tmr or whatever? I havent pushed anyone else to be lynched cause acro isnt posting. | ||
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On August 11 2013 21:40 Acrofales wrote: First things first. I haven't read the minutes for the start of today's meeting yet, but I received some important information that I was asked to pass on to the other lords. It seems it is actually pertinent to everybody here. One of my vassals has a network of little birds, who have uncovered that Yamato is a Blackfyre pretender. I trust him and I trust his abilities. ##vote Yamato So why do you have to claim the red check. Why cant Sharrant claim it? | ||
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Why must he wait for Acro to tell us about it? | ||
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Everyone saw Sharrant saying that Acro had VERY good reason to think Yamato is scum. | ||
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A: Its a fakecheck. B: Yamato is a miller C: Yamato was framed. Hm Xata? | ||
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So he was contacted by sharrant right? And he believes him implicitly. Then when he sees Sharrant talking about it, he doesnt wait and try and pm sharrant and ask whats going on, no he just tells the thread everything. And acts all confused. No no, bad play or Acro is scum. | ||
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On August 11 2013 22:22 Oberyn wrote: But wasn't yamato one of your scum reads prior? no? I thought this earlier. His argument with me at the start seems a lot like town yamato man. Actually yamato has been really aggressive man. After he came back to the thread, he bitched about acro attacking dudes and shit. Quintessential town yamato. I would be so surprised if he flips scum. | ||
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On August 11 2013 22:28 Acrofales wrote: No you idiot. Sharrant conferred with me during the night on whom to target. He told me this morning about the results and asked me to send a raven to the other lords with his findings. Instead of communicating just with the lords, I thought this information was important enough to make public. I was never confused about anything. You're the confused one. Too much cold up there in the north has addled your brains. Not quite sure why you'd say this when you communicated with me in private. So why do you out sharrant? | ||
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On August 11 2013 22:28 Xatalos wrote: What's your point? In any case we shoot/lynch Sharrant+X if Yamato flips town. That has the highest chance of hitting scum even if it's not 100% (anything rarely is 100%). And it's not like Yamato isn't scummy even without this redcheck. Except B and C mean that Sharrant probably isnt scum. Fuck another game with fucking cop checks and shit. FUCK. | ||
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On August 11 2013 22:31 Onegu wrote: I have been talking with yamato and some of his stances and thoughts on oberyn made me have a townie feeling on him. He said he was going to post a case on Acro but hasnt done it yet though. How do you talk with yamato? | ||
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On August 11 2013 22:40 Acrofales wrote: I don't believe it's A. B would be silly in a closed setup. C is possiblle, but I think it is far more likely that: D: Yamato is a Blackfyre. So yes. Lets kill him. Miller in a closed setup? Im shocked at your naivete Acro. | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423047&user=Ace | ||
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Ok if we lynch yamato and hes town, can I choose who we lynch d3? | ||
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Read his filter, and his last scum game, Sicilian http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=414884&user=Yamato77 | ||
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On August 12 2013 00:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: So who do you propose we lynch instead? And why? Acro, cause his scumreads are bullshit, he has been stupidly useless, and he dumbly dealt with the cop claim. | ||
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If you think yamato is town, then you would want to kill someone else. | ||
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On August 12 2013 00:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don´t think yamato is town, and all my scumreads basically claimed blue.. aw rayn, guess you better find somemore. | ||
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On August 12 2013 01:39 iamperfection wrote: And oats if you think yamato is town your going to have to Do a lot better than that Is this like when I thought FT was town? Cause thats probably gonna happen again. Can you stand being wrong twice Iamp? | ||
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*you're So what are the similarities between Sicilian and this game Iamp? | ||
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On August 12 2013 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why not just tell one of your townreads, like Xatalos? Because that would have been the right course of action imo, when you used the check, which i do not agree was wise in the first place. The point Iamp was getting at, was that scum probably already know the result of the HP check. | ||
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On August 12 2013 01:47 iamperfection wrote: Your using meta wrong. Just because they aren't the same doesn't mean yamato is town this game So how do you use meta right? | ||
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I dunno, working pretty well for me so far. | ||
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On August 12 2013 01:55 iamperfection wrote: No your making terrible meta arguments and aren't backing them up or proving your point your being lazy and bad So using the same 2 games, Sicilian and this one, I could make a meta argument that convinces you? so basically here, Just because they aren't the same doesn't mean yamato is town this game you werent exactly 100% accurate. | ||
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Clarity, what do you think? | ||
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On August 12 2013 16:25 Clarity_nl wrote: I think he's been insanely useless. I think we shouldn't shoot him n2 though. why not? | ||
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On August 12 2013 16:32 Clarity_nl wrote: Because at least he's showing up 1000 times saying he hasn't caught up yet. Eventually he'll have to say he's caught up, right? Let's see what he does then. Plus rayn said in his opening post that nmm8 seems towny. I totally dont agree with this. Also I assume NMM8 didnt actually pm that much so rayn's analysis may not be that accurate. | ||
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On August 12 2013 16:48 Clarity_nl wrote: You don't agree with giving someone a chance when getting replaced into 80 pages? Yeah he could definitely be scum, but if he is we'll find out. Why in such a rush to house kp him when we can just see what he does today/d3 and go from there. not after like almost 2 pages. I wanna kill him as fast as possible cause I know he is scum now. Why bother waiting? | ||
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On August 12 2013 16:56 Clarity_nl wrote: You know he's scum the same way you knew yamato was town? Yeah, I'll wait. Are you afraid he might actually contribute or something? If you know he's scum surely you'll see through his lies. I can, but why wait? Lets say Ace was like Mocsta or something, would you want to lynch him tmr? | ||
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On August 12 2013 17:08 Clarity_nl wrote: As if I know anything about who's a vet and who's not. I've given you decent reasons to not kill him with lord kp and your answer is "NO, FUCKING KILL HIM HES SCUM" Cool story bro Decent reasons like, 'im sure he will be useful later'. No those are not decent reasons. You havent said anything about his current play other than 'useless' so I dont see why we are letting people live based on future play rather than current play. And you know that Ace is a 'vet' come on. | ||
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On August 12 2013 17:11 Xatalos wrote: Seriously though, Ace has had less time to be useful than the other useless lurkers / apathetic scummy players. That's why I think he shouldn't be the priority kill. It's not just his veteran status. Ace is posting. And its been useless. Why as town does Ace post useless things Xata? Is it cause Ace is bad? | ||
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On August 12 2013 17:40 Xatalos wrote: Dunno. But don't you think he'd show at least some effort to look useful if he was scum? Whatever, I'm not against lynching/killing him, it's just that there are more pressing matters (Vivax/Snb/Kush). Well some effort he has shown. Its just not very good. | ||
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There is plenty of motivation for Oberyn to do the claiming watcher thing, assuming Xata got targeted by scum and didnt die, so they can hopefully get the town jailkeeper to claim or whatever. Also if none of the scum visited Xata, there is almost no downside to doing what Oberyn did. | ||
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Do you feel that Oberyn got looked at really hard today? | ||
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On August 12 2013 22:22 Onegu wrote: Yes I am going though motivation and what could have happened. If he is scum he doesnt gain much no matter how it played out. eh what? he gains a town jailkeeper. Lotta motivation. Ok so a town jk claims and gets lynched. Why would oberyn get lynched next? IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE ONEGU. | ||
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On August 12 2013 22:55 Acrofales wrote: @Oberyn: I probably should have waited with revealing the detective's information, but I saw the PM urging me to talk to the other lords and saw no point in just telling the lords, so I told the general populace. Waiting may have revealed some associative tells from Yamato and may have been the better course of action. Your kinsman has not been taking our meeting seriously since its very start, though, so I don't think we missed out on much. Why didnt you talk with Sharrant instead of outing him? | ||
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On August 12 2013 23:05 Acrofales wrote: He was already outed? You should come south, my dear Lord Stark. All that cold is freezing your brain to the point of utter uselessness. He is in your house right? I and I dont think anyone else thought he was the cop before you posted that yamato got checked. | ||
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On August 12 2013 23:09 Acrofales wrote: Yeah yeah. You're a Blackfyre. Nobody is really this stupid. So lets ask other dudes. Before Acro claimed the red check on Yamato, who thought that Sharrant was cop? | ||
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I was asking why Acro didnt consult Sharrant and do it differently and he said something like 'everyone knew sharrant was cop anyway', which totally wasnt true. Anyway Acro is scum for being useless, roleplaying and generally being obtuse with shit, not caring about the Yamato claim and stuff and not actually scumhunting. | ||
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Its difficult to explain :/ | ||
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Scum oriented play: pretend to have been gone after reading the pm, reveal it to the scum qt. Have yamato drop real wifom bombs before he was "caught" and have members of the scum team express suspicion of him in preparation for the reveal of the red check. Then tell the other lords. You give way too much credit to the scumteam I feel. Also everyone or almost everyone thought yamato was scum anyway and yamato wasnt even in the thread till like 10 or so hours after his redchecked was claimed. So I dont think the scumteam wouldve done this. | ||
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On August 12 2013 23:35 Acrofales wrote: If you, the epitome of dumb can figure it out, then everybody else already had as well. No point in trying to hide it. I didnt think sharrant was cop. | ||
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If yamato flips town Oats is my nr 1 lynch for tomorrow. But chances are pretty low. | ||
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Its not cause Yamato flips town. | ||
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On August 13 2013 00:28 Koshi wrote: Even after the baby seals and the gifs? lol... Impossible. The guy makes a podcast. He will not trow a game like this. I dont understand what you are saying. | ||
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On August 13 2013 00:30 Koshi wrote: Just going to ignore you after this. A guy who takes the game serious will never trow a game as town by posting baby seals and gifs. Not going to happen. ever. So you dont want to explain? Fine by me. | ||
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He did say 1 interesting thing though, he said he didnt want to be lord because he needed to get his obv town status back. And that he wants to be lord day 3. | ||
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Sharrant can be scum and Acro can be town. I dont see Sharrant being town and Acro being scum because he wouldve got roleblocked. Confirming a check on someone is really bad especially if its like lynchbait like kush. | ||
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On August 20 2013 14:49 Ace wrote: One of the days I came back to tread the thread and saw some morons saying I was being anti-town or something because I wouldn't respond to every little thing going on. Of course the thread was LITTERED with so much useless junk and "Player X's fantastic Town Read #4!" that shit didn't get done. I think its far more anti-town when people dont know how to shut the fuck up and keep posting Town reads every time they get a chance. So fucking dumb. nah Ace I thought you were scum because you were so useless man. Be less useless next time? | ||
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It was calculated, he purposely got himself modkilled. Definetly more than a 1 game ban I feel. | ||
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So apparently he didnt learn from that one. Whatever the hosts decided on, im ok with. | ||
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